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    Lightbulb Amazing Crop Circle appears 1991/Germany and 3 discs found underneath.....

    Hey ,

    did you ever hear of the crop circles in Grasdorf 1991/Germany and what they found underneath it? Very amazing. This defenitly was not human made and the greatest discovery ever in the crop circle history.

    They found 3 Metalldiscs underneath with the crop circle above picture on it. One was out of pure gold..more pure than ever seen on earth. The second one was pure silver more pure than common also. The third one was out of real bronze. All was worth a lot.

    They found out the discs been in the ground for a very long time. When the crop circle appeared in 1991 the found them underneath.

    How come this never was on the news big? The try to hide this too.

    Nobody so far can explain this. This is defenitly a very meaningful message from far away.

    Look here :






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    Lightbulb Re: Amazing Crop Circle appears 1991/Germany and 3 discs found underneath.....

    maybe the crop circle was made like this? :



    could be.....

    I know this is old stuff, but very interesting. That`s why I posted it here

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    Default Re: Amazing Crop Circle appears 1991/Germany and 3 discs found underneath.....

    And another amazing disc was also found in Germany in 1999. 3600 years old showing the pleiades star system....

    It is called the oldes star map ever discovered....



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    This is so important - please spread the message :




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    Default Re: Amazing Crop Circle appears 1991/Germany and 3 discs found underneath.....

    Its a question of timing.
    Did the circles appear for sure before the discs were found?
    If so whatever did the circles knew of the disc image and existence.
    Therefore no terrestrial human hand involved in constructing the circles.
    Interesting subject.
    Haven't had time yet to watch the videos
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    Ps why I ask for sure in spite of the statement that they were found after the circle was made, is that facts can be distorted by media or agenda.
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    Very interesting.


    http://grahamhancock.com/phorum/read...,858573,858776

    Quote " The three plates were silver, gold, and bronze. The plates were tested and found to be 99.9% pure silver and gold. The bronze plate was a sophisticated alloy. This whole incident was not that long ago (1991). Well after the 70's period that Doug and Doug were evidently creating cirlces. Here's the AMAZING part. The plates were cast with the exact same pattern that was created in the crop cirlce. If this was a hoax it was a very expensive and extensively planned one"
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    Having now watched the videos--Im convinced that the narrative in the videos and the findings are genuine.
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    Quote Posted by Whisper (here)
    This is so important - please spread the message :



    Whisper, while I found all the videos thought provoking, the last was a real mind blower. Thanks.
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    Default Re: Amazing Crop Circle appears 1991/Germany and 3 discs found underneath.....

    1st video originally published on Youtube in 2012
    3rd video originally published on Youtube in 2009.

    I would suggest consulting Colin Andrews at colinandrews.net

    He was one of the original Crop Circle investigators since the 1970s,
    and it was he who coined the phrase "Crop Circles".

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    Quote Posted by Valerie Villars (here)
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    Whisper, while I found all the videos thought provoking, the last was a real mind blower. Thanks.
    Yes truly amazing isn't it Valerie and all
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    The squaring of the circle is the mystery of life. The squaring is the capture of eternity by the finite. The eternal can seem to fall but the finite cannot in any sense rise above. The circle must first be unsquared to do that.

    It has been another year since I last worked on these patterns. I was told there would be some down-time between courses. I wonder when I will continue. It is fascinating work with many marvelous revelations. It seems that these patterns induce certain mindsets or gestalts that allow further comprehension. I sort of get how the brain can be entrained and this entrainment can be used to augment learning. You learn to set up and hold certain standing wave fronts that may resemble these fundamental patterns. From those patterns new and wonderful knowledge can be gleaned. I use that odd word because the knowledge is not linear and employs a different type of logic that in some ways is contradictory to our standard default setting. It cannot be explained. It can only be experienced.

    It is the experience that is the knowledge, the knowledge of which leads to more experience, and so on.
    If not now, then when?

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    Default Re: Amazing Crop Circle appears 1991/Germany and 3 discs found underneath.....

    sorry, I could not find any more detailed videos about the crop Circle where they found underneath those important discs. There are some, but only in german. I have german roots and speak german - so no problem for me.


    I did watch a interview about the discs and the man who owns it now. He had it check severall times at labatories. They found out the plates been a long time in the ground buried. Way before the crop circle appeared there.

    And they are made out of such a pure gold or silver which does not exist on earth.

    Here you can read about it :

    Dr Roemer-Blum, arranged a scientific evaluation at the German Federal Institute for Material Research (Bundesanstalt fur Materialpufung) in Berlin. Their conclusion, after carefully analyzing both plates was:

    “Plate one (silver color) consisted mainly of quite pure silver (what an understatement!), with an additional ingredient accounting for less than 0.1%. The weight of the plate was 4.98kg (11lbs). Plate two (bronze color) consisted of a copper-tin alloy (of which the tin content amounted to 10%-15%), nickel and traces of iron amounting to less than 0.1%”.

    This meant that the silver plate consisted of 99.9% pure silver, purer than sterling-silver. Furthermore, a spectrographic analysis of both plates proved that they had not been made from a cast but from some kind of conglomerate of silver nuggets and natural copper and tin pieces of the type found in Germany’s Harz forest, not far from Grasdorf. They had been produced, either by heating up to a degree that partially melted the metals – or in a low-gravity environment.

    It is further mentioned of the gold plate, of the finest quality that had been seen by the examiner. The industrialist received about 25,000 Euros for the bronze and silver plate and the gold was worth at least 75,000 Euros.


    I hope this will answer some of your questions.

    this is interesting too.....

    Actually, the location of the pictogram is archaeologically significant: it lies at the foot of the Thieberg, a Thing or ancient Teutonic tribal parliament site, possibly on top of a prehistoric processional path. In the immediate vicinity is the Wuldenberg, an ancient Germanic Wotan sacred site on which a church was erected under Charlemagne, and the Holy Grove (Heilige Holz) of the Teutons, which was fought over right into the Middle Ages. When a feudal lord gave the order to fell this sacred wood in 1273, he was murdered by the people of Grasdorf: a small civil war was the result, and the wood stayed untouched until the 19th century. So this very ancient Saxon heartland, christianed no earlier than the 9th century as a result of the victory of Charlemagne over the Saxons, had been sacred for at least 4,000 years. Dr Nowothnig, an archaeologist from Hannover, described the neighbourhood as “one of the most significant prehistoric cult areas of Europe”…

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    We all know some crop circles have been man-made, but that is a different topic than what I think OP is trying to convey. For some transparency, I had written off crop circles years ago, but the last video was very intriguing and has me asking questions again.

    Questions like: For what purpose and to what end? Why are "they" using this medium to send important messages? Surely an advanced civilization can come up with a better instrument to chat with us. Maybe this is just one way of several ways?

    For those wanting a bit of science behind the circles. Check out this video.


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    The best I have been able to come up with is that the symbols resonate with something embedded in us. Something ancient, deep, profound and beyond words. They are there to awaken something in us on a very deep level. Words, as such, would scramble the message.
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    We still don't understand the messages of the most crop circles. Hopefully one day we will.

    And then, we don*t know anything so far about the sender. How far away they are and what kind of possibilities they have to contact us? Maybe this is the only way it is possible for them? Could be. And they might have a totally different way of thinking than we do.

    Very amazing I find the crop circles which appeared, answering the Arecibo message, send out by us. They could read it and did answer. And we could translate it. This is something totally different and maybe soon some more like this coming up? Lets hope so.

    I believe there are many civilizations out there. It is a big universe..... and many new worlds to discover....









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    Quote Posted by RedX (here)
    We all know some crop circles have been man-made, but that is a different topic than what I think OP is trying to convey. For some transparency, I had written off crop circles years ago, but the last video was very intriguing and has me asking questions again.

    Questions like: For what purpose and to what end? Why are "they" using this medium to send important messages? Surely an advanced civilization can come up with a better instrument to chat with us. Maybe this is just one way of several ways?

    For those wanting a bit of science behind the circles. Check out this video.

    Just about the best Crop Circle vid iv'e seen, thx for that RedX
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    Default Re: Amazing Crop Circle appears 1991/Germany and 3 discs found underneath.....

    Go to Metabunk and wade through the thorough discussion about this incident. I think that based on its exact details, the chances of it being a hoax are greater than 99.99%. Given the part played by an eccentric artist named Moschkote Litfax, it is clear who the leading hoaxer was.

    As with so many of these types of incident they dissolve very quickly once the full narrative is established and then critically examined.

    https://metabunk.org/the-grasdorf-plates.t739
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    It can't be a hoax - what so ever. We have to go by the fact's. The man named by ripple "Moschkote Litfax" is an artist, who lives in the area where the crop circle appeared. He did see it himself and makes his own investigation about the circle and the found discs. He know's the man who bought them.

    The discs been analyst in 2 labatories so far and they never seen anything like this before. The silver disc is about a 1.000 pure silver....sterling silver has 999....... And as more pure silver is, it gets more soft and easy to bend. But the silver disc found underneath the crop circle, which is made out of pure silver is not soft at all...... Nobody in both labatories did ever seen something similar like this. The structur of the material, looking at it through a microscope, was something new for them.

    The back of the disc's are surprising too. You can see here, this was not melted and put in a form, like it is usually done. Nobody can tell how those discs been actually made.

    HOw long been the discs buried in the ground? The scientist don't know exactly, but give a time frame between 300 - 3000 years.
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    This is the interview I was watching. If you speak german you can listen and watch it yourself. Maybe someone can put english subtitels to it? I don't know how to do this.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc6cCPTbvyM (german version only)

    Dr. Joh. Roemer-Blum u. Moschkote Litfas - Kornkreise und ihre Bedeutung 1 (Alpenparlament.TV)


    The crop circle which appeared above the discs, was checked also by many scientist and crop circle specialists and named "not man made"....

    It was an autenthic crop circle which had the typical signs, only "not human made" crop circles show........for example, no broken plants, the radiation of the area aso......

    FYI
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