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    Default Re: Big Discovery: Tomb of Alexander The Great found in Jordan?

    The Jordanian government has officially denied that any treasure was found. However, if the treasure was worth 2 trillion dollars there would be incentive to cover up such a find. Islamic nations also do not value the cultural or historical significance of these sites the way western cultures do. So if the site were destroyed, we may never know who was telling the truth.

    Carmen Boulter does bring a level of credibility to the story, although she herself said that she has not seen the site in person.


    http://www.jordantimes.com/news/loca...ing-—-minister
    Ajloun excavations were for military purposes, not treasure hunting — minister

    July 22, 2014

    AMMAN — The government on Monday refuted allegations that treasures have been unearthed in Ajloun, stressing that the excavations carried out in the northern governorate were solely for “military installations”.

    During a meeting of the Lower House's Transparency and Integrity Committee, Interior Minister Hussein Majali said that the Jordan Armed Forces carried out works in Ajloun last week to install pumps, boosters and warning devices, the Jordan News Agency, Petra, reported.

    Head of the panel, MP Mustafa Rawashdeh, said that the meeting was meant to check the authenticity of allegations claiming that the military had unearthed treasures worth billions of dinars in a historic region of the Ajloun Governorate.

    Majali also said that the excavations were not meant to unearth statues, gold and precious stones as was reported, stressing that the highway adjacent to the land was closed to facilitate the excavations, Petra said.

    He noted that details of the excavation contain "top confidential military information" that he could not disclose to the press, adding that three similar activities will be carried out in Ajloun.

    The minister also said that the lack of "preliminary information" divulged to concerned parties is to blame for the spread of rumours, according to Petra.

    Tourism Minister Nidal Katamine, who was also present at the meeting, said that the location of the excavations is three kilometres away from the 2,200-year-old "Hercula" region in Ajloun.

    He also stressed that the ministry has received no request from any party to unearth treasures in Ajloun, adding that reports of a French archeologist of Algerian origin and the existence of treasures in Jordan belonging to Alexander the Great are "inaccurate".

    Ajloun Governor Abdullah Al Khattab said that the highway linking Ajloun to Irbid was closed from 5:00pm Thursday to 10:00am Friday to facilitate the army’s mission and avoid any traffic jams.

    Over the last couple of days, social networks and news websites have been abuzz with talk about the “secret” unearthing of invaluable treasures dating back to ancient times with some claiming that the cave dug in Ajloun was the grave of Alexander the Great.

    On Facebook, people posted photos of trucks they believed were laden with the supposed found treasures with many others saying that the search for the gold lasted for 17 hours.

    Facebook users also shared a YouTube video of French Algerian treasure hunter named Deifallah, claiming to have found the grave of Alexander the Great and invaluable treasures in a hilly area in Jordan during a lecture at the Arab World Institute in Paris.

    Without specifying the exact location of the treasure, Deifallah presented a slide show to the audience, containing pictures of statues, gold and precious stones surrounding the grave.

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    Default Re: Big Discovery: Tomb of Alexander The Great found in Jordan?

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    Deifallah presented a slide show to the audience, containing pictures of statues, gold and precious stones surrounding the grave.
    Yes. Those interesting photos (on post #15 and the three that follow) are of something!

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    Default Re: Big Discovery: Tomb of Alexander The Great found in Jordan?

    In this video, Djillali appears to be having a dinner meeting about the treasure find. The video is time stamped October 9, 2011. But the conversation is in French, maybe a French speaker can let us know if there is anything of significance being discussed.


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    Default Re: Big Discovery: Tomb of Alexander The Great found in Jordan?

    Not much to say about it, it seems to be a presentation of what Djillali presented to the king of Jordan, in situ.

    He mentions there's 6000 tons of gold altogether from the statues and wall coverings.

    What I get from it is that it's a sort of Ali Baba's cave where treasures from various tombs of famous historical figures have been collected, i.e., Marc Anthony, Cleopatra, Ptolemy, Alexander, etc.
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    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    I would imagine that if the claims were true, Jordan would have been invaded by now and looted by "foreign powers" notorious for such illegal actions. Is that being too cynical?
    Even then they wouldn't know where to look. However, that Q thread says Q said "Gold will bring down the 'FED' " so, is this the gold?
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    Default Re: Big Discovery: Tomb of Alexander The Great found in Jordan?

    This is more of the same dinner conversation from above, with the October 9, 2011 time stamp.


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    That Omar Aissaoui video ^^^ is not available in my country...
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    Default Re: Big Discovery: Tomb of Alexander The Great found in Jordan?

    Quote Posted by Hervé (here)
    That Omar Aissaoui video ^^^ is not available in my country...
    Here you go:
    http://thepythoniccow.us/Omar Aissaoui.MP4

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    Quote Posted by Hervé (here)
    That Omar Aissaoui video ^^^ is not available in my country...
    Now in the Avalon Library:
    ( —> Paul)

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    Default Re: Big Discovery: Tomb of Alexander The Great found in Jordan?

    Thanks Paul and Bill


    It's just more of the same with more descriptions and some legalities to be met with.


    One troubling thing to me is that there isn't one single damn scale available on any of these pictures so that one can get an idea of the size of these artifacts: giants or miniatures... not very professional!
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    Default Re: Big Discovery: Tomb of Alexander The Great found in Jordan?

    Here's the 20 December Coast to Coast show with Carmen Boulter:
    1. http://avalonlibrary.net/Carmen_Boul...018_Hour_1.mp3
    2. http://avalonlibrary.net/Carmen_Boul...018_Hour_2.mp3
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Here's the 20 December Coast to Coast show with Carmen Boulter:
    1. http://avalonlibrary.net/Carmen_Boul...018_Hour_1.mp3
    2. http://avalonlibrary.net/Carmen_Boul...018_Hour_2.mp3
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    I finally listened to this (behind here! ), and it's very compelling. It all comes over as being very real.

    A few notes:
    • Carmen is clearly careful NOT to mention French archeologist Bagdad Djillali Difallah by name (the original discoverer), but it's 100% clear this is who she's referring to. See post #13 for more on him.
    • She states that she's known about this in general for three years, but since then she's been told a lot more. (She speaks fluent French, which must help: Difallah speaks no English.) She's been given the go-ahead to talk about this openly now.
    • She makes the interesting (and surely valid) point that the 'Ark of the Covenant' may have been a technology, not a unique device. That means there could have been several of them, and maybe even many. That would account for all the seemingly contradictory reports and claims of its current existence in a number of very different locations.
    • To add credence to her own story, she describes vividly how she personally held the gold dagger that was found on the supposed sarcophagus of Alexander, laid across his chest, and could palpably feel the energy associated with (or emanating from) it. (The dagger was the one artifact that had been taken from the tomb by Difallah.)

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    Default Re: Big Discovery: Tomb of Alexander The Great found in Jordan?

    I was looking into this as well and found this forum. It seems that there are some leaked documents that, if real, may shed some light on what happened to this tremendous discovery. The video below is was posted about 4 months ago from an obscure youtube user "Team Babylon".

    It seems to link Valter Mainetti, a majority shareholder and Chief Executive Officer of Sorgente Group in Italy. Not sure how this person "Team Babylon" was able to get copies of the docs, but the contents are rather foreboding in regards to the future of this find. The discoverer, Baghdad Dijilai Difallah, may have sold out. The first document in the video is in French, but the second is in English (note that Omar Aissaoui is also involved).

    There are only 4 videos posted on his channel (really only two, as each is duplicated). All were posted on Dec 7, 2018. They hardly have any views and the channel only has 4 subscribers. One video is of the above mentioned documents, and the other looks like additional footage from the tomb that looks like was taken from a small cam, perhaps attached to a helmet.

    Not sure of what to make of all this and would appreciate your thoughts.


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    Default Re: Big Discovery: Tomb of Alexander The Great found in Jordan?

    Herve, would you be able to take a look at the first video in post #33 in this thread and possibly translate what is said in the first document shown? It is very interesting that this tomb may very well be real and already looted.
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    Default Re: Big Discovery: Tomb of Alexander The Great found in Jordan?

    The letter dated 25th July 2018 is basically looking at finalizing a contract between the parties and seeking to organize a new expedition to the site.
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    Default Re: Big Discovery: Tomb of Alexander The Great found in Jordan?

    My how they shine! Unless someone has spent a very long time cleaning the artifacts whilst they lay in the tomb (especially the 'arc') oxidisation etc over the period of time would leave them just a wee bit duller than shown. Rock is porous so even a 'sealed' chamber is not air tight.

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