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    There's a good summary of Yamashita's gold here, but there's MUCH more about it all over the net. It's for real.

    I was given these photos below by someone who contacted Project Camelot years ago: and also personally met another (independent) Camelot contact who told us he was part of a team that transferred at least some of the gold to Switzerland — where it remains.

    Kerry and I met him for dinner, and he showed us documents which stated the value of the gold deposited. The huge dollar number had so many zeros after it that I had to count them twice. (That's not a joke. I really did.)

    Here are the photos. They're high resolution images, so they may take a while to load. Enlarge them to read them in detail. And look VERY carefully at the last two to see the value.













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    Default Re: Yamashlta's gold

    Three Trillion ... or three thousand billion..... in one trunk at around $20.67 in 1930 an ounce, now $1220.00 a ounce

    Thanks Bill.
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    Default Re: Yamashlta's gold

    Quote Posted by ramus (here)
    Three Trillion ... or three thousand billion..... in one trunk at around $20.67 an ounce, now $1220.00 a ounce

    Thanks Bill.

    That is simply staggering!

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    Well it is a thing but it is not 3 trillion within a single trunk....unless that is a rather huge trunk?

    I mean just approx that equals $320.00 ($20 to an ounce) to a pound (16 ounces) in weight.
    Now there would be 3125lbs to a million dollars.......so times that by 1000,000 to make a trillion....then times that by 3

    That is a great deal of heavy! You are not putting that in one box!
    Normal..!

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    Default Re: Yamashlta's gold

    $3,000,000,000,000 (3 trillion)
    divided by $1220/oz = 2,459,016 oz
    divided by 16oz per pound = 153,689 LB
    divided by 2000LB/ton = 76.8 tons

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    Quote Posted by Ron Mauer Sr (here)
    $3,000,000,000,000 (3 trillion)
    divided by $1220/oz = 2,459,016 oz
    divided by 16oz per pound = 153,689 LB
    divided by 2000LB/ton = 76.8 tons
    Ron, you need the HISTORICAL gold price, not today's. In 1934 (the date on the brass plaque — or maybe it's a gold plaque! ), it peaked at $668.

    The box photographed says 'SERIES 193'. I don't know what that means, but it might (possibly) mean there were at least 192 other boxes. I was told that the quantity of gold there kind of boggled the mind.
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    Well, damn. Time to buy a shovel

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    You can't link a certain set of letters in that Japanese name.

    This is reminiscent of the things that went on about Special Drawing Rights (SDRs) and the apparent stash of gold belonging particularly to the royal houses of China, Japan, India, and Indonesia that went on a few years ago. Some of that was hoax-ish and some of it may be real. If unleashed as gold-backed currency, it would cause a sudden shift in power.

    The package is from right after the 1933 confiscation (is not WWII Asian), which was for around $20, and then increasing some thirty times in value sounds about right, free money for the bank. Appears to list a dozen sixty-pound bars, with a skimpy one stuck in the middle for some reason. So probably about 750 pounds in the chest, most of which was probably previously in peoples' houses.

    I observed what I would call a "second confiscation". Around 2004, Rothschild sold their seat from the gold-fixing board, now left to HSBC, Barclay's, etc. Then there was a steady price increase. People started selling gold like mad, most of which went to India and China. After about ten years, the well started to run dry. I don't have any numbers for it, but millions passed through these hands. It was almost literally like transferring a crown from one head to another. Nothing "official" to it, just something else that ran under the radar.
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    Quote Posted by Ron Mauer Sr (here)
    $3,000,000,000,000 (3 trillion)
    divided by $1220/oz = 2,459,016 oz
    divided by 16oz per pound = 153,689 LB
    divided by 2000LB/ton = 76.8 tons
    Hey Ron,
    Just an interesting side note.
    Precious metals are still measured in Troy. There are 12 Troy ounces in a Troy pound.
    A regular ounce is 28.35 grams and a Troy ounce is 31.1 grams.
    Your math still works out to a lot of weight and does not change the point you are making.
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    This image is interesting.
    The bars are very obviously not Gold due to the tarnishing (Gold doesn't tarnish).

    Also if you expand the image you can make out that they are actually Brass boxes.
    The edges of the boxes show the thickness of each side as well if one looks closely.

    However, the value amount on the box does not match with its size, even if valued at the dated market price (Perhaps this is the total value of all boxes/chest?).

    But everything else looks remarkably credible.
    I'm very curious.
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    So on the "Certification" plaques it states (in part):

    Quote Denomination: $1000,000,000 (250pcs) Total Value $250,000,000,000
    On this one plaque it reads:

    Quote Box No. G88888888F
    The "F" stands for Atlanta, Georgia as per the single "control" plaque which states 12 different codes for the 12 boxes.

    So 12 boxes each containing 250 "bars" which are said to be worth One billion dollars each!
    Therefore 3000 "bars" totalling Three trillion dollars in the "names" of 12 cities!
    Normal..!

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    Oh well that ended quickly

    The images we have are of a single trunk (the 13th trunk) which does not hold any "gold" but holds the 12 Certification plaques and the Control plaque.

    The other 12 trunks are said to hold the Government Bonds, 250 per box at face values of US$ one billion. So pieces of paper lol
    Normal..!

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    Default Re: Yamashlta's gold

    Here's some more. The documents below are high resolution, so you can enlarge them and zoom into the detail. They show an October 2002 deposit into the Swiss bank UBS of 22,198,000 kg of gold. I was given them by a second person, not the person who gave me the photos of the 1934 bullion box.

    I do NOT know if the UBS deposit was connected to Yamashita's gold. But what's very interesting is that if you look at the URLs of the photos, the box photos are img097, img098, img099, img100, img102, img103, and img104. Meanwhile, the UBS documents are img050 and img051.

    That might be a coincidence, but to me it strongly suggests that these two people (one in the US and the other in Switzerland, who certainly didn't know each other) both got them from the same original source.

    If that's the case, I'd LOVE to know what was in img001—img049 and img052—img096.




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    It's the very first time I reply to a thread. In case my comment would not be posted on the thread please feel free to post it. After the merger of the 2 Swiss banks, Swiss Bank Corporation and Union Bank of Switzerland, back in 1998, the official name of the new merged bank became UBS AG (or UBS Group AG https://www.ubs.com/global/en/legal/info-on-ubs.html). Since then, to my knowledge, Union Bank of Switzerland A.G. did not exist anymore. Nobody with signatory power on behalf of UBS AG, would have signed in the year 2002, a document in the name of Union Bank of Switzerland A.G. Therefore both certificates must be false and therefore do not stand as proof for such holdings at UBS. Personally I have been following the gold market closely since the year 2000 and since then, I came across this story a couple of times. None of the information I previously got about this story was, in my opinion, OK to prove the existence of this Gold. Maybe the Yama****a Gold does exist or maybe not. However counterfeit documents as the above, do certainly not help to support the authenticity of the story

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    Quote Posted by chrifri (here)
    It's the very first time I reply to a thread. In case my comment would not be posted on the thread please feel free to post it. After the merger of the 2 Swiss banks, Swiss Bank Corporation and Union Bank of Switzerland, back in 1998, the official name of the new merged bank became UBS AG (or UBS Group AG https://www.ubs.com/global/en/legal/info-on-ubs.html). Since then, to my knowledge, Union Bank of Switzerland A.G. did not exist anymore. Nobody with signatory power on behalf of UBS AG, would have signed in the year 2002, a document in the name of Union Bank of Switzerland A.G. Therefore both certificates must be false and therefore do not stand as proof for such holdings at UBS. Personally I have been following the gold market closely since the year 2000 and since then, I came across this story a couple of times. None of the information I previously got about this story was, in my opinion, OK to prove the existence of this Gold. Maybe the Yamashita Gold does exist or maybe not. However counterfeit documents as the above, do certainly not help to support the authenticity of the story
    Thank you!! That's very interesting.

    I got curious, and then found this:
    It's not the bank's page, but it's a well-presented, critical blog piece about their stock price. The page title is (B)(N) UBS Union Bank of Switzerland AG, and in the first paragraph, it states:
    The Union Bank of Switzerland, with headquarters in the Bahnhofstrasse of Zurich, Switzerland, continuously since at least 1862, is one the largest and most fabled banks of the world...
    There are other pages online, Google-searchable by requesting the phrase, specified by bracketing the phrase in quotes — like this: "UBS Union Bank of Switzerland AG". There are even Getty and Alamy images available with Union Bank of Switzerland AG in the description.

    The UBS site itself is https://ubs.com, and if anyone wants to ask them about this via their media relations contact form, here it is:
    I can't do this myself, as I don't have a phone number or an address. (True! I live in a house in a field near a small village, and that's all. No mailbox, no nothing. ) Don't mention the specific document, but just ask about what they might have called themselves on formal documents in 2002.
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    All very interesting.

    All I can say for sure is

    'I definitely haven't got any of it'


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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Maybe the Yamashita Gold does exist or maybe not.
    Here's the book that tells the entire story:


    The Amazon summary:

    In 1945, US intelligence officers in Manila discovered that the Japanese had hidden large quantities of gold bullion and other looted treasure in the Philippines. President Truman decided to recover the gold but to keep its riches secret. These, combined with Japanese treasure recovered during the US occupation, and with recovered Nazi loot, would create a worldwide American political action fund to fight communism. This ‘Black Gold’ gave Washington virtually limitless, unaccountable funds, providing an asset base to reinforce the treasuries of America’s allies, to bribe political and military leaders, and to manipulate elections in foreign countries for more than fifty years.

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    Gold price in 1930 was...$ 20.67

    1934 was...$ 35.00

    So the volume of gold the make a trillion is huge. The standard weight of a ingot 12.4 Kg .. 438 oz. at 99.5 purity 430 oz. ... 16 oz. to a pound ..35.2 oz. to a kilogram ......12.4kg x 35.2oz..= 27.2 lbs per ingot....$35 x 35.2oz =$1232.00 per ingot ...$1,000,00.00 = 811 ingots or 22,059.2 lbs ...that's just a million dollars worth.

    hope the math is right


    Note from Bill: not according to this interactive historical gold price graph.
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    After my post I did some more research. According to the information I found, Peter Davis was not CFO of UBS AG. He and Rolf Meyer (the 2 signatories on one of the copies) were members of the group executive board. Signing documents that have nothing to do with their duties as board members is very strange and I would say impossible. Of course, by coincidence, at that time, there could have been 2 other gentlemen with the exact same names, holding similar positions (another Rolf Meyer holding a vice president position could have been possible, however a Peter Davis as CFO most probably not). To me it rather seems that somebody has picked these names to make the document seemingly important. Which in my opinion it definitely is not. Further I have checked the UBS 2002 Financial Report. According to that report there was no business unit with the name Union Bank of Switzerland. By the way, I worked for UBS before and some time after the merger (before at the previous Union Bank of Switzerland). I can confirm that after the merger there were very strict rules NOT to use the name of Union Bank of Switzerland anymore. Having seen copies of other counterfeit documents during my "bankers" time I am convinced that the 2 documents are false.

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    Quote Posted by chrifri (here)
    After my post I did some more research. According to the information I found, Peter Davis was not CFO of UBS AG. He and Rolf Meyer (the 2 signatories on one of the copies) were members of the group executive board. Signing documents that have nothing to do with their duties as board members is very strange and I would say impossible. Of course, by coincidence, at that time, there could have been 2 other gentlemen with the exact same names, holding similar positions (another Rolf Meyer holding a vice president position could have been possible, however a Peter Davis as CFO most probably not). To me it rather seems that somebody has picked these names to make the document seemingly important. Which in my opinion it definitely is not. Further I have checked the UBS 2002 Financial Report. According to that report there was no business unit with the name Union Bank of Switzerland. By the way, I worked for UBS before and some time after the merger (before at the previous Union Bank of Switzerland). I can confirm that after the merger there were very strict rules NOT to use the name of Union Bank of Switzerland anymore. Having seen copies of other counterfeit documents during my "bankers" time I am convinced that the 2 documents are false.
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