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    Since reading this story yesterday, I've been thinking about the possible reasons for its publication now.

    From the Daily Mail online, 30th Dec 2018:

    Quote [U]Has the mystery of 'Britain's Roswell' finally been solved? Rendlesham Forest UFO 'landing' was a prank SAS tricksters played on US Airmen, insiders claim[/U]
    • Rendlesham Forest incident in Suffolk, has intrigued UFO enthusiasts since 1980
    • Military personnel said they saw lights flying in the woods in December that year
    • The group was largely convinced they had witnessed an alien spacecraft
    • Yet it has now been claimed that the extraterrestrial sighting was a hoax

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ly-solved.html

    The above story states that as an act of revenge for one of its troopers being caught and having the sh!t kicked out of him by base security, the SAS staged the whole Rendlesham incident as an act of revenge. Any sane person, even with a modest grip on reality, would know after reading the piece, that it is utter bull-crap. Dr. David Clarke (who's research, after receiving a letter from an alleged former SAS member, forms the story) is often the go-to-guy for the UK media with UFO stories due to his penchant for de-bunking even the most well evidenced of UFO incidents and his natural skepticism of anything paranormal.

    Robin Horsfall, who served with the SAS for 13 years, had this to say about the received letter:

    The letter, he says, ‘is written by a person with a solid grounding in grammar which in my opinion excludes most SAS operatives during this period including the commissioned officers’.

    More conclusively, as the alleged events happened during his time based in Hereford with
    22 SAS he felt sure he would have heard about it via the grapevine.

    We did undertake planned training actions against British military establishments but never against those of the US forces. Working against US units with live ammunition without strict safety protocols could have got people killed with huge political ramifications'.

    The idea of a revenge prank by [SAS] isn’t plausible as the rules controlling pyrotechnical devices within the regiment were very strict and any such action could have resulted in those involved being returned to unit’.

    The above quotes are taken from Dr. David Clarke's own blog, readable here: https://drdavidclarke.co.uk/2018/12/...meets-the-sas/

    So, what we have in this case is blatant misreporting by the Daily Mail........ Hardly shocking, but telling.

    It is the 38th anniversary of the Rendlesham Forest Incident and due for release shortly is Gary Heseltine's feature length documentary, Capel Green. Apparently, those that still have secrets regarding the RFI are worried........ Worried enough to start forming a narrative in the press?


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    What an ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS ARTICLE !

    Reporter Jessica Green & The Daily Mail going for "idiots of the year 2018"

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    The later SAS story is most likely bunkum but I am swayed by this type of conclusion

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    In his 6 January 2009 podcast episode titled "The Rendlesham Forest UFO," author Brian Dunning evaluated the original eye-witness reports and audio recordings, as well as the resulting media reporting of this incident. After a lengthy analysis Dunning concluded:
    Col. Halt's thoroughness was commendable, but even he can be mistaken. Without exception, everything he reported on his audiotape and in his written memo has a perfectly rational and unremarkable explanation... All that remains is the tale that the men were debriefed and ordered never to mention the event, and warned that "bullets are cheap". Well, as we've seen on television, the men all talk quite freely about it, and even Col. Halt says that to this day nobody has ever debriefed him. So this appears to be just another dramatic invention for television, perhaps from one of the men who have expanded their stories over the years.

    When you examine each piece of evidence separately on its own merit, you avoid the trap of pattern matching and finding correlations where none exist. The meteors had nothing to do with the lighthouse or the rabbit diggings, but when you hear all three stories told together, it's easy to conclude (as did the airmen) that the light overhead became an alien spacecraft in the forest. Always remember: Separate pieces of poor evidence don't aggregate together into a single piece of good evidence. You can stack cowpies as high as you want, but they won't turn into a bar of gold. END OF QUOTE
    As for the ball of light , splitting and vaguely self shaping into an entity which confronted but did not communicate etc etc . It could be true , just like the infamous flying pigs .

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    Quote Posted by ripple (here)
    The later SAS story is most likely bunkum but I am swayed by this type of conclusion

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    In his 6 January 2009 podcast episode titled "The Rendlesham Forest UFO," author Brian Dunning evaluated the original eye-witness reports and audio recordings, as well as the resulting media reporting of this incident. After a lengthy analysis Dunning concluded:
    Col. Halt's thoroughness was commendable, but even he can be mistaken. Without exception, everything he reported on his audiotape and in his written memo has a perfectly rational and unremarkable explanation... All that remains is the tale that the men were debriefed and ordered never to mention the event, and warned that "bullets are cheap". Well, as we've seen on television, the men all talk quite freely about it, and even Col. Halt says that to this day nobody has ever debriefed him. So this appears to be just another dramatic invention for television, perhaps from one of the men who have expanded their stories over the years.

    When you examine each piece of evidence separately on its own merit, you avoid the trap of pattern matching and finding correlations where none exist. The meteors had nothing to do with the lighthouse or the rabbit diggings, but when you hear all three stories told together, it's easy to conclude (as did the airmen) that the light overhead became an alien spacecraft in the forest. Always remember: Separate pieces of poor evidence don't aggregate together into a single piece of good evidence. You can stack cowpies as high as you want, but they won't turn into a bar of gold. END OF QUOTE
    As for the ball of light , splitting and vaguely self shaping into an entity which confronted but did not communicate etc etc . It could be true , just like the infamous flying pigs .
    Fair comment.

    Until, that is, you take into account what these civilian witnesses had to say:

    Julia Abbot
    Gerry Harris
    Gordon Levett
    Ann Hopton Scott
    Arthur Smekle
    Tony Sorrel
    Roy and Marina Webb

    The twin bases (that were) of RAF Bentwaters and RAF Woodbridge, and the surrounding area, have a long history of paranormal events occurring if one cares to look a little deeper.

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    ""I wish to make it perfectly clear that the ufos that I saw were structured machines moving under intelligent control and operating beyond the realm of anything I have ever seen before or since.
    I believe the objects that I saw at close quarter were Extra-Terrestrial in origin and that the security forces of both the United States and England were and have been complicit in trying to subvert the significance of what occurred at rendlesham by use of well- practiced methods of disinformation.""

    - Col. Charles Halt (Ret.), June 25, 2009 Press Release.

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    Ref to The Crimson Horse Blanket:

    "It is the 38th anniversary of the Rendlesham Forest Incident and due for release shortly is Gary Heseltine's feature length documentary, Capel Green. Apparently, those that still have secrets regarding the RFI are worried........ Worried enough to start forming a narrative in the press?"

    I spoke to the lead researcher Gary Heseltine last month in Bulgaria about the film contents. He told me privately that there is real concern at the moment as to the contents. He is strategically timing the film to be launched at an appropriate time to embarrass the authorities. He has more evidence from additional sources in recent times to be inserted into the film to reinforce the reality of the event.

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    Grant Cameron with Gary Heseltine Rendlesham Forest Capel Green


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    Capel Green (2019)

    Documentary | 1 May 2019 (UK)


    Capel Green is a feature length documentary film which focuses on the life of Larry Warren, the original military witness and whistle-blower in these famous Rendlesham Forest Incidents. An ... See full summary »
    Director:

    Dion M Johnson
    Writers:

    Gary Heseltine, Dion M Johnson
    Stars:

    Max Easton, Adam Hillier, Emma Von Schreiber | See full cast & crew »

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8151794/
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    Quote Posted by ripple (here)
    The later SAS story is most likely bunkum but I am swayed by this type of conclusion

    QUOTE
    In his 6 January 2009 podcast episode titled "The Rendlesham Forest UFO," author Brian Dunning evaluated the original eye-witness reports and audio recordings, as well as the resulting media reporting of this incident. After a lengthy analysis Dunning concluded:
    Col. Halt's thoroughness was commendable, but even he can be mistaken. Without exception, everything he reported on his audiotape and in his written memo has a perfectly rational and unremarkable explanation... All that remains is the tale that the men were debriefed and ordered never to mention the event, and warned that "bullets are cheap". Well, as we've seen on television, the men all talk quite freely about it, and even Col. Halt says that to this day nobody has ever debriefed him. So this appears to be just another dramatic invention for television, perhaps from one of the men who have expanded their stories over the years.

    When you examine each piece of evidence separately on its own merit, you avoid the trap of pattern matching and finding correlations where none exist. The meteors had nothing to do with the lighthouse or the rabbit diggings, but when you hear all three stories told together, it's easy to conclude (as did the airmen) that the light overhead became an alien spacecraft in the forest. Always remember: Separate pieces of poor evidence don't aggregate together into a single piece of good evidence. You can stack cowpies as high as you want, but they won't turn into a bar of gold. END OF QUOTE
    As for the ball of light , splitting and vaguely self shaping into an entity which confronted but did not communicate etc etc . It could be true , just like the infamous flying pigs .
    Fair comment.

    Until, that is, you take into account what these civilian witnesses had to say:

    Julia Abbot
    Gerry Harris
    Gordon Levett
    Ann Hopton Scott
    Arthur Smekle
    Tony Sorrel
    Roy and Marina Webb

    The twin bases (that were) of RAF Bentwaters and RAF Woodbridge, and the surrounding area, have a long history of paranormal events occurring if one cares to look a little deeper.
    The testimony of Colonel Halt as quoted in Post 5 is remarkable . It is worthless in terms of hard evidence and facts and just gives us one or two of his private beliefs .Let's hope the civilian testimony is more rewarding .
    Colonel Halt's report is subjective -- and he implicitly tells us that he believes that a craft that managed to navigate millions of miles could only semi crash in a heavily wooded area before disappearing without achieving any conceivable goal or aim .
    I would love to believe that we had been visited by non terrestrials . But I cannot see a shred of evidence here to rationally support such an extreme conclusion .
    Based on 'Your' testimony -- not mine .

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