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    Thanks onawah, for contributing. I personally welcome all contributions. I don’t know anything about Alexandria or alleged snoop-bots, so I don’t mean to imply support for any attacks or allegations directed at snoop. It doesn’t matter to me so much what ppl believe, it’s what and how they perpetrate. All I know of snoop is this thread and the video presentations that Virgo triad has prepared from snoop’s reports. I admire the depth of Snoop’s work, which has been helpful to me, and I still use it when the appropriate situation arises. I understand Snoop’s focus on Tavares and think his intensity of concern matches my own. The reason for my intensity is that I know of no other presenter who manages to violate listeners to the degree that Tavares does. Aside from my own experience, which I’ve described, I see terrible things when I peruse her listener comments, which range from desperation (no use, hopeless, suicide is the only answer) to fight/flight calls for mob violence, recently to include blind people, and her fans are so rabid that they carry her message “far and wide” as she commands them too. She single-handedly has hammered home the “Rothschild” mantra to a point where even some (allegedly) “respectable” journalists just mimic her even though there’s no substantiation of Rothschild owning PG&E post the 2002 bankruptcy, or being at the root of every single horrible thing that’s happening worldwide. I’m not Rothschild defender, what I object to is purposeful dumbing down by promoting a one-stop quick-fix answer to everything. Maybe Rothschild still does own/run PG&E invisibly, but that would be something we would have to assume is true and which flies in the face of the information that we do have at hand. To have 10’s of 1000’s of people spreading that message and coupling it with “it’s the jews” simply because Deborah Tavares says so (and in the absence of any historical perspective or current substantiation) is something that I find to be extremely alarming, if for no other reason than those people have admittedly stopped further research and deny current research in favor of cult-like, Pavlovian personality worship. That’s about as well as I can verbalize it concisely, it’s the reason why I too am extra vigilantly triggered by Tavares, and why I understand snoop’s intensity when it comes to Tavares. There are a lot of presenters whom I don’t agree with, but IMO her methods and affect are on par with white nationalist, aryan brotherhood, kkk, john birch society and other black and white thinking dogmatic frontal assault extremism which (from the start) betray the goodwill of people who choose to invest their trust. That stuff grabs my gut, I can feel and see the devastating results, and so while I can simply ignore others, I am compelled to proactively be on the case in exposing Tavares. I do not mean to imply that I am taking issue with Snoop by adding this response to you, I am not. I’m thanking you for contributing. From my POV we’re all guessing, and as such, differing perspectives are valuable to stimulate critical thought. Your contributions to this thread have widened the scope of thought and I’m glad you chimed in again.
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    Thanks Xylo. As I've stated before, I don't take issue at this point with your or Snoop's stance on Tavares. She is a real nightmare, no question, though I didn't understand that at first.
    But I tend to always look at the big picture and there are other issues which concern me a lot more.
    Not to minimize what a nut job she is, but to keep it all in perspective, she's just a tiny bit of the whole problem.
    What always concerns me a lot more is who and what is behind such players, and it's easy for that to be obfuscated if we become obsessed with just one part of the problem, ie, missing the forest for the trees.
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    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    I doubt you will find much disagreement here and now about Tavares being a fraud and a nutcase and possibly a tool of the CIA or whatever, but you can shout from the rooftops as loud and often as you like, Snoop, that Agenda 21 was never passed and is not law... it doesn't change the fact ONE IOTA that the Powers That Be DON'T ABIDE BY THE LAWS!
    You can repeat it over and over again as if everyone who doesn't understand it's not law is an ignoramus, but from my perspective, it's the other way around--anyone who thinks TPTB abide by the laws is the fool.

    And you will not find much agreement on this forum from those of us who have researched the subject about climate warming being caused by CO2.
    The causes for climate change are many, and there are more credible scientists calling out the climate warming fanatics than there are backing them up.
    A few of the various threads on this forum which show evidence to this effect in abundance if you care to check:
    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ighlight=gretahttp://<br /> http://projectavalon....over-the-world
    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ning-the-earth
    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...Green-New-Deal
    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...bal-Cooling-or..

    And there are MANY reasons for objections to such things as the Green New Deal, which echos what is most objectionable about the methods called for for achieving the goals of Agenda 21 (as it is in practice.
    One of them being that the alternative sources of energy such as solar and wind are not efficient or sustainable, not to mention affordable, and in the case of wind power, very unsafe.
    If you really want a good cause to devote your rantings to, I suggest you read Wade Frazier's thread about the kinds of technology that would absolutely change the world for the better in a very short time: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...-Healed-Planet
    It's clear as day that the very same NWO powers that be with Agenda 21 goals are suppressing the release of those technologies.
    Or perhaps those are the powers that you are actually supporting; that seems to be the case, judging from your posts.

    I've heard from Alexandra Bruce of Forbidden Knowledge that you created a chatbot that spams her comment board with anti-Tavares posts.
    Why are you picking on Alexandra, if I might inquire?
    Has Kerry Cassidy become one of your targets as well?

    You might want to start with this post and highly recommended (by Bill Ryan) video re climate cooling: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1322975
    onawah,

    YOUR COMMENT: I doubt you will find much disagreement here and now about Tavares being a fraud and a nutcase... .

    MY RESPONSE: Agreed. With you as a one-time exception, there is no disagreement here that Tavares is a fraud and a nutcase. And, to your credit, even you now recognize that undeniable truth. I applaud you for joining us in this regard. I know that the other soldiers for truth here feel the same way I do. It is for precisely for people like you that we all do what we do. Thanks again.

    YOUR COMMENT: but you can shout from the rooftops as loud and often as you like, Snoop, that Agenda 21 was never passed and is not law...

    MY RESPONSE: Correct. A law has to exist in order for the "powers that be" TO ENFORCE IT upon those PRIVATE INTERESTS which profit by the destruction of the environment (oil and gas corporations, timber corporations, mining corporations, land development corporations, banks, etc.). Otherwise, THERE IS NOTHING TO ENFORCE upon those private interests which profit from destroying the environment. A law that does not exist cannot be THE CAUSE of problems that might have otherwise arisen from the enforcement of that non-existent law.

    YOUR COMMENT: it doesn't change the fact ONE IOTA that the Powers That Be DON'T ABIDE BY THE LAWS!

    MY RESPONSE: Environmental laws do not bind the global elite. So, the global elite does not have to abide environmental laws which do not apply to them. Instead, environmental laws bind the PRIVATE INTERESTS which profit by destroying the environment (oil and gas corporations, timber corporations, mining corporations, land development corporations, banks, etc.). If the global elite sought to protect the environment from these private interests which profit by destroying the environment, the global elite would need laws which could be enforced against these private interests. Without such laws, any global elite seeking to protect the environment would have no means to achieve that result. So, whether the global elite are behind environmental regulations or whether concerned scientists and ordinary concerned citizens are behind environmental regulations, laws are necessary to bind the private interests which profit from destroying the environment.

    I regard the REAL "powers that be" as these private interests which profit by destroying the environment (oil and gas corporations, timber corporations, mining corporations, land development corporations, banks, etc.). And, I agree with you that these REAL "powers that be" do not abide by environmental suggestions WHICH NEVER BECOME LAW, as was the case Agenda 21 and the UN Convention On Biodiversity. So, I actually agree with you on this one, but for entirely different reasons.

    YOUR COMMENT: You can repeat it over and over again as if everyone who doesn't understand it's not law is an ignoramus, but from my perspective, it's the other way around--anyone who thinks TPTB abide by the laws is the fool.

    MY RESPONSE: Environmental laws were never supposed to apply to the global elite in the first place. So, it is true that the global elite does not follow laws that do not apply to them in the first place. Environmental laws were designed to bind the REAL "powers that be" which profit by destroying the environment (oil and gas corporations, timber corporations, mining corporations, land development corporations, banks, etc.). These REAL "powers that be" do not follow laws WHICH DO NOT EXIST, like Agenda 21 and The UN Convention On Biodiversity (BOTH OF WHICH WERE REJECTED AND NEVER BECAME LAW).

    YOUR COMMENT: And you will not find much agreement on this forum from those of us who have researched the subject about climate warming being caused by CO2.

    MY RESPONSE: I have an entirely different understanding of what qualifies as "research" into climate change, none of which involves YouTube videos or in opinion threads. If I had limited my own research into Deborah Tavares to YouTube videos and opinion threads, I would still believe NASA was killing us all with diabolical weapons (instead of protecting us from them), the Bilderbergs were killing us all with Silent Weapons in Quiet Wars, The Report From Iron Mountain proves that the US government is manipulating the weather in furtherance of the planned extinction of mankind, Agenda 21 was a global de-population plan instead of a REJECTED environmental suggestion, PG&E is shooting at us with directed energy weapons mounted on satellites in space, and so on.

    YOUR COMMENT: The causes for climate change are many, and there are more credible scientists calling out the climate warming fanatics than there are backing them up.

    MY RESPONSE: That is not so. FACT: 97% of scientists agree that climate change is caused by green house gasses. I suppose this makes 97% of the world's scientists "climate warming fanatics" (so I am in good company). FACT: 90% of the information disseminated which denies that green house gasses are the cause of climate change COMES FROM THINK TANKS FUNDED BY THE FOSSIL FUEL INDUSTRY, not from REAL scientists. See sourced proof below.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global...ng_controversy
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...global_warming
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change_denial
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming

    YOUR COMMENT: A few of the various threads on this forum which show evidence to this effect in abundance if you care to check:
    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ighlight=gretahttp://<br /> http://projectavalon....over-the-world
    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ning-the-earth
    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...Green-New-Deal
    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...bal-Cooling-or..

    MY RESPONSE: I admire Avalonians. But, for scientific facts, I'll go to the scientists for my information.

    YOUR COMMENT: And there are MANY reasons for objections to such things as the Green New Deal, which echos what is most objectionable about the methods called for for achieving the goals of Agenda 21 (as it is in practice).

    MY RESPONSE: Understood. If you believe that climate change is not real and that the resulting droughts and fires are not real, then any effort to correct and prevent those non-existent problems is completely unnecessary and likely has some nefarious underlying purpose involving the planned extinction of mankind.

    YOUR COMMENT: One of them being that the alternative sources of energy such as solar and wind are not efficient or sustainable, not to mention affordable, and in the case of wind power, very unsafe.

    MY RESPONSE: Understood. Compared to fossil fuels (which only costs $3.00 per gallon and which belches CO2 into the atmosphere causing droughts and forest fires), alternatives like free solar, free wind and free tide are not efficient or sustainable, not to mention affordable, and in the case of wind power, very unsafe. Given these opposing options, enriching the global oil corporations, causing droughts and increasing the rate of forest fires and displacing humanity is the much better option.

    YOUR COMMENT: If you really want a good cause to devote your rantings to, I suggest you read Wade Frazier's thread about the kinds of technology that would absolutely change the world for the better in a very short time: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...-Healed-Planet

    MY RESPONSE: I am not looking for a good cause to devote my rantings to. I already have one, the hoaxes of Deborah Tavares. But, thanks all the same.

    YOUR COMMENT: It's clear as day that the very same NWO powers that be with Agenda 21 goals are suppressing the release of those technologies.

    MY RESPONSE: Not so. The REAL NWO "powers that be" are those which profit by destroying the environment (oil and gas corporations, timber corporations, mining corporations and land development corporations, banks, etc.). I do not support those powers. I oppose them.

    And, I certainly do support the suppression of technologies which would offer mankind alternatives to the continued use of fossil fuels and the continued destruction of the environment to enrich the REAL "powers that be".

    YOUR COMMENT: Or perhaps those are the powers that you are actually supporting; that seems to be the case, judging from your posts.

    MY RESPONSE: Not so. The REAL NWO "powers that be" are those which profit by destroying the environment (oil and gas corporations, timber corporations, mining corporations and land development corporations, banks, etc.). I do not support those powers. I oppose them.

    And, I certainly do support the suppression of technologies which would offer mankind alternatives to the continued use of fossil fuels and the continued destruction of the environment to enrich the REAL "powers that be".

    YOUR COMMENT: I've heard from Alexandra Bruce of Forbidden Knowledge that you created a chatbot that spams her comment board with anti-Tavares posts.

    MY RESPONSE: I do not know what a "chatbot" is. But, it is true that Alexandra Bruce of Forbidden Knowledge posts the HOAXES of Deborah Tavares on her website. So, I have posted comments there in response to these HOAXES, as I have done here.

    YOUR COMMENT: Why are you picking on Alexandra, if I might inquire?

    MY RESPONSE: I had had hoped that you had changed in terms of your character and integrity. But, it is clear that you have not.

    Let me ask you a simple question. Am I "PICKING ON BILL RYAN" when I post a comment here on this thread EXPOSING THE HOAXES (AND OTHER BAD INFORMATION) OF DEBORAH TAVARES? If not, how am I "PICKING ON ALEXANDRA" by posting similar comments on her site under a published Deborah Tavares HOAX?

    AGAIN, everyone can see what you are doing. You are AGAIN pretending that my facts ABOUT DEBORAH TAVARES are something that they are not, AN ATTACK ON THE WEBMASTER OF THE SITE ON WHICH THAT FACT IS POSTED. Then, AGAIN you ask me to defend that non-existent ATTACK OF A WEBMASTER WHICH YOU KNOW I NEVER MADE! SEE THE "SWITCH"?

    AGAIN, you aren't fooling anybody with such a stunt. That is the kind of conduct I would expect of Deborah Tavares, but NOT of a TRUTHER on a TRUTHER website on a thread ENTITLED "HOAXES AND OTHER BAD INFORMATION".

    YOUR COMMENT: Has Kerry Cassidy become one of your targets as well?

    Let me ask you a simple question. Am I "TARGETING BILL RYAN" when I attempt to post a comment on his website EXPOSING THE HOAXES (AND OTHER BAD INFORMATION) OF DEBORAH TAVARES? If not, how am I "TARGETING KERRY CASSIDY" by sending her FACTS about Deborah Tavares in direct response to an article or video she publishes on her own website reflecting a Deborah Tavares HOAX?

    AGAIN, everyone can see what you are doing. You are AGAIN pretending that my facts ABOUT DEBORAH TAVARES are something that they are not, AN ATTACK ON THE WEBMASTER OF A SITE ON WHICH I ATTEMPTED TO POST A COMMENT REFLECTING THE TRUTH ABOUT DEBORAH TAVARES. Then, AGAIN you ask me to defend that non-existent ATTACK OF A WEBMASTER WHICH YOU KNOW I NEVER MADE! SEE THE "SWITCH"?

    AGAIN, you aren't fooling anybody with such a stunt. That is the kind of conduct I would expect of Deborah Tavares, but NOT of a TRUTHER on a TRUTHER website on a thread ENTITLED "HOAXES AND OTHER BAD INFORMATION".

    Don't ever pull such a stunt on me again.

    If I were Alexandra Bruce or Kerry Cassidy and if Deborah Tavares HAD ACTUALLY USED ME, MY GOOD NAME, MY REPUTATION, MY CREDIBILITY AND MY WEBSITE TO PUBLISH HER HOAXES TO MY OWN FOLLOWERS, and if a TRUTHER were to NOTIFY me that I was being so used, I would NOT think the TRUTHER had "PICKED ON ME" or "TARGETED ME"! Instead, I WOULD BE GRATEFUL to the TRUTHER for the NOTICE and I would be FURIOUS WITH DEBORAH TAVARES FOR HAVING "TARGETED ME" AND MAKING ME AN UNWITTING ACCOMPLICE IN HER FRAUDULENT BEHAVIOR.

    Your problem is that your value system is exactly backwards. To you, wrong is right and right is wrong. To you, a lie is good and the truth is bad. To you, the liar is the good guy and the truther is the bad guy. That is so sick, twisted and demented.

    FACT: MY TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT THE HOAXES OF DEBORAH TAVRES IS ONLY "PICKING ON" AND "TARGETING" THE HOAXES OF DEBORAH TAVARES, NOT BILL RYAN, ALEXANDRA BRUCE, KERRY CASSIDY OR SOME OTHER BELOVED FIGURE IN THE TRUTH MOVEMENT. YOU KNOW IT. I KNOW IT. AND, EVERYONE ELSE KNOWS IT.

    FACT: MY TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT THE HOAXES OF DEBORAH TAVARES IS ALWAYS THE RIGHT THING FOR ME TO DO, BOTH HERE AND ELESEWHERE. IT WOULD ALSO, INCIDENTLY, BE THE RIGHT THING FOR YOU TO DO AS WELL.

    FACT: IF THE GLOBAL ELITE REALLY WANTED TO DEPOULATE THE PLANET, THEY WOULD OPPOSE ALL ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATIONS, AS YOU AND DEBORAH TAVARES DOES, SO AS TO ACTUALLY INCREASE THE RATE OF DROUGHT, FIRES, DISPLACEMENT, MIGRATION, FAMINE, PLAGUE, STARVATION, DEATH AND EXINCTION OF MUCH OF THE WORLD'S BIODIVERSITY, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.

    YOUR COMMENT: You might want to start with this post and highly recommended (by Bill Ryan) video re climate cooling: [url]http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?106598-Global-Warming-Global-Cooling-or..&p=1322975&viewfull=1#post1322975

    MY RESPONSE: I have the greatest admiration and respect for Bill Ryan. I'll take a look. But, ultimately I will take my science from scientists.

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    I couldn't care less about your praise or blame, Snoop, and I pity anyone who falls for such an obvious ploy.
    You use the very same tactics as those of known disinfo agents, accusing others of doing the very things you are doing, buttering up those who agree with you and attacking those who don't with false claims, repeating yourself over and over again in hopes you can thereby hypnotize people into agreement, and nitpicking nonexistent and illogical points to death.
    It becomes more obvious all the time, even to the untutored.
    Of course, you being a lawyer could explain that as well, defending a position endlessly even if you know that it's just BS, because that's the job.

    But I don't think Avalon needs more endless diatribes about Tavares.
    She could have been hung many times over already if she wasn't being protected, which is what I and others still suspect.
    Now THAT would be a worthwhile premise to investigate!

    But I am leaving this thread again to the Mods who I hope will curb your misbehavior, and to whoever might still need a very tiresome and relentlessly in- depth course on the many hoaxes of Deborah Tavares.

    Personally, I think you have a rather unhealthy fixation on her, and I would get some treatment if I were you.
    And I would spend a lot more time than what it takes to watch one video about climate cooling.
    You have bought into a huge scam if you really believe the global warming alarmists, and if you try to convince us here on Avalon about that, you are going to be in for a much rockier ride that this thread has given you.
    There are just so many more important things to spend time on.

    And BTW, to quote exactly what Alexandra Bruce wrote to me about you: "He's created a chatbot that spams my comment board with anti-Tavares posts."
    I've alerted her to Tavaras as a very unreliable source, and given her the link to this thread.
    She's a very smart woman, and I think you will not have to spam her board about Tavares much longer.
    I've advised Kerry accordingly, and if you can convince her, you would be doing us all a favor,
    But if you use the same tactics as you've used on Alexandra, I doubt you will have any success.
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    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    I couldn't care less about your praise or blame, Snoop, and I pity anyone who falls for such an obvious ploy.
    You use the very same tactics as those of known disinfo agents, accusing others of doing the very things you are doing, buttering up those who agree with you and attacking those who don't with false claims, repeating yourself over and over again in hopes you can thereby hypnotize people into agreement, and nitpicking nonexistent and illogical points to death.
    It becomes more obvious all the time, even to the untutored.
    Of course, you being a lawyer could explain that as well, defending a position endlessly even if you know that it's just BS, because that's the job.

    [...]

    But I am leaving this thread again to the Mods who I hope will curb your misbehavior, and to whoever might still need a very tiresome and relentlessly in- depth course on the many hoaxes of Deborah Tavares.

    Personally, I think you have a rather unhealthy fixation on her, and I would get some treatment if I were you.
    And I would spend a lot more time than what it takes to watch one video about climate cooling.
    You have bought into a huge scam if you really believe the global warming alarmists, and if you try to convince us here on Avalon about that, you are going to be in for a much rockier ride that this thread has given you.
    There are just so many more important things to spend time on.
    Onawah quite frankly your rants are tiresome when you can’t help having a go at people doing their own due diligence in their corners of the world because it doesn’t fit one of your agendas.

    Heaven Forbid if someone disagrees with the beliefs you have carved out for yourself. You’re not the only authority on the planet. Perhaps if you stopped being so paranoid about members on Avalon who have done nothing wrong and have just as every right as you to be here, you would actually see we’re all on the same bloody page for helping humanity and the environment.

    Then ya gotta play the Mods card to try and “curb some imagined form of misbehaviour” over Snoop replying honestly to your insults. Then ya gotta lay on more intimidation tactics by claiming Avalonians would not welcome discussions about Global Warming from anyone that doesn’t believe in your stance. This isn’t a Flat Earth topic.

    Please Onawah, when you’re bored with topics, find them tiresome, and/or don’t like members, please show some common decency and respect by staying away and keeping your inflammatory comments to yourself.

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    Thanks onawah, for contributing. I personally welcome all contributions. I don’t know anything about Alexandria or alleged snoop-bots, so I don’t mean to imply support for any attacks or allegations directed at snoop. It doesn’t matter to me so much what ppl believe, it’s what and how they perpetrate. All I know of snoop is this thread and the video presentations that Virgo triad has prepared from snoop’s reports. I admire the depth of Snoop’s work, which has been helpful to me, and I still use it when the appropriate situation arises. I understand Snoop’s focus on Tavares and think his intensity of concern matches my own. The reason for my intensity is that I know of no other presenter who manages to violate listeners to the degree that Tavares does. Aside from my own experience, which I’ve described, I see terrible things when I peruse her listener comments, which range from desperation (no use, hopeless, suicide is the only answer) to fight/flight calls for mob violence, recently to include blind people, and her fans are so rabid that they carry her message “far and wide” as she commands them too. She single-handedly has hammered home the “Rothschild” mantra to a point where even some (allegedly) “respectable” journalists just mimic her even though there’s no substantiation of Rothschild owning PG&E post the 2002 bankruptcy, or being at the root of every single horrible thing that’s happening worldwide. I’m not Rothschild defender, what I object to is purposeful dumbing down by promoting a one-stop quick-fix answer to everything. Maybe Rothschild still does own/run PG&E invisibly, but that would be something we would have to assume is true and which flies in the face of the information that we do have at hand. To have 10’s of 1000’s of people spreading that message and coupling it with “it’s the jews” simply because Deborah Tavares says so (and in the absence of any historical perspective or current substantiation) is something that I find to be extremely alarming, if for no other reason than those people have admittedly stopped further research and deny current research in favor of cult-like, Pavlovian personality worship. That’s about as well as I can verbalize it concisely, it’s the reason why I too am extra vigilantly triggered by Tavares, and why I understand snoop’s intensity when it comes to Tavares. There are a lot of presenters whom I don’t agree with, but IMO her methods and affect are on par with white nationalist, aryan brotherhood, kkk, john birch society and other black and white thinking dogmatic frontal assault extremism which (from the start) betray the goodwill of people who choose to invest their trust. That stuff grabs my gut, I can feel and see the devastating results, and so while I can simply ignore others, I am compelled to proactively be on the case in exposing Tavares. I do not mean to imply that I am taking issue with Snoop by adding this response to you, I am not. I’m thanking you for contributing. From my POV we’re all guessing, and as such, differing perspectives are valuable to stimulate critical thought. Your contributions to this thread have widened the scope of thought and I’m glad you chimed in again.
    xylo,

    Excellent.

    YOUR COMMENT: I don’t know anything about Alexandria or alleged snoop-bots, so I don’t mean to imply support for any attacks or allegations directed at snoop.

    MY RESPONSE: Thanks. I do not even know what a "chatbot" is. But, I can assure you that whatever a chatbot is, I have not used one to "PICK ON" Alexandra Bruce any more than I have used a chatbot to "PICK ON" Bill Ryan. I am only revealing the truth about Deborah Tavares IN AN EFFORT TO HELP HER VICTIMS like Alexandra Bruce and Kerry Cassidy. Contrary to the understanding of some, that is a good thing, not a bad thing. That is the right thing for me to do, not the wrong thing for me to do. My revealing the truth about Deborah Tavares to her own victims is not "PICKING ON" or "TARGETING" them. It is helping them.

    YOUR COMMENT: All I know of snoop is this thread and the video presentations that Virgo triad has prepared from snoop’s reports. I admire the depth of Snoop’s work, which has been helpful to me, and I still use it when the appropriate situation arises. I understand Snoop’s focus on Tavares and think his intensity of concern matches my own.

    MY RESPONSE: Thanks, I try to be thorough in reaching the truth. It is true that I have exposed a large number of Deborah Tavares' hoaxes. But, she is NOT the only (or the first) charlatan who I have exposed.

    I have also exposed the hoaxes of FAKE Private Attorney General, Rodney DALE (Judge "DALE") Class, FAKE former deputy sheriff, Eddie Craig, FAKE Constitutional scholar, Carl Miller, FAKE Private Attorney General, Anthony Williams, FAKE former law enforcement officer and FAKE former real estate attorney Debra Jones, Lyle Hartford Van Dyke (the REAL author of Silent Weapons For Quiet Wars) and many, many more. So. my ultimate focus is upon INTENTIONAL FRAUD regardless of the identity of the charlatan behind it, not just the hoaxes of Deborah Tavares alone.

    YOUR COMMENT: The reason for my intensity is that I know of no other presenter who manages to violate listeners to the degree that Tavares does. Aside from my own experience, which I’ve described, I see terrible things when I peruse her listener comments, which range from desperation (no use, hopeless, suicide is the only answer) to fight/flight calls for mob violence, recently to include blind people, and her fans are so rabid that they carry her message “far and wide” as she commands them too.

    MY RESPONSE: Agreed. Nobody inflicts more damage upon her own followers than Deborah Tavares does. Nobody incites more HATRED and VIOLENCE with her INTENTIONAL FRAUD than Deborah Tavares does. For an investigator like me who looks for hoaxes, Deborah Tavares' material is fertile ground. I have yet to find a single claim of hers that was actually true.

    YOUR COMMENT: She single-handedly has hammered home the “Rothschild” mantra to a point where even some (allegedly) “respectable” journalists just mimic her even though there’s no substantiation of Rothschild owning PG&E post the 2002 bankruptcy, or being at the root of every single horrible thing that’s happening worldwide. I’m not Rothschild defender, what I object to is purposeful dumbing down by promoting a one-stop quick-fix answer to everything. Maybe Rothschild still does own/run PG&E invisibly, but that would be something we would have to assume is true and which flies in the face of the information that we do have at hand. To have 10’s of 1000’s of people spreading that message and coupling it with “it’s the jews” simply because Deborah Tavares says so (and in the absence of any historical perspective or current substantiation) is something that I find to be extremely alarming, if for no other reason than those people have admittedly stopped further research and deny current research in favor of cult-like, Pavlovian personality worship.

    MY RESPONSE: Agreed. Whatever sins the Rothschilds are responsible for, they are not responsible for:
    1. Owning and controlling all of the utility companies in the United States or the world.
    2. Using "THEIR" utility company, satellite-mounted, directed energy weapon technology to start forest fires to drive us out of our rural and suburban homes and into tightly-packed, overpopulated "Kill Cities" or "Smart Cities" in furtherance of the planned extinction of mankind.
    3. Using "THEIR" utility company, satellite-mounted, directed energy weapon technology to "TARGET" opponents of smart meters.
    4. Monopolizing the fresh drinking water supply for profit ("Rothschild's Water Wars").

    YOUR COMMENT: That’s about as well as I can verbalize it concisely, it’s the reason why I too am extra vigilantly triggered by Tavares, and why I understand snoop’s intensity when it comes to Tavares. There are a lot of presenters whom I don’t agree with, but IMO her methods and affect are on par with white nationalist, Aryan brotherhood, kkk, john birch society and other black and white thinking dogmatic frontal assault extremism which (from the start) betray the goodwill of people who choose to invest their trust. That stuff grabs my gut, I can feel and see the devastating results, and so while I can simply ignore others, I am compelled to proactively be on the case in exposing Tavares.

    MY RESPONSE: I could not possibly agree more.

    YOUR COMMENT: I do not mean to imply that I am taking issue with Snoop by adding this response to you, I am not.

    MY RESPONSE: Thanks.

    YOUR COMMENT: I’m thanking you for contributing. From my POV we’re all guessing, and as such, differing perspectives are valuable to stimulate critical thought. Your contributions to this thread have widened the scope of thought and I’m glad you chimed in again.

    MY RESPONSE: When onawah first returned to this thread, I thought that she might have actually become a soldier for truth herself and had joined our ranks. To her credit, onawah now admits that Deborah Tavares really is a fraud and that we have actually been telling the truth about her all along. For this reason, I thought that onawah might actually help us in getting the word out about the hoaxes of Deborah Tavares. Obviously, I was mistaken in this regard.

    As best I can tell, onawah realizes that Deborah Tavares really is a fraud, but doesn't want anyone else to know that Deborah Tavares is a fraud. As best I can tell, onawah wants to keep that truth a secret from everybody else and it appears to anger onawah for me to try to get the truth out about Deborah Tavares to her victims (ex: Alexandra Bruce, Kerry Cassidy, etc.).

    But, my sharing the truth about Deborah Tavares with her victims is the right thing for me to do, not the wrong thing for me to do. At the very least, my sharing the truth about Deborah Tavares with her victims is not "PICKING ON" or "TARGETING" them. It is helping them.

    Thanks For All You Do,

    Snoop
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    I refer you to this: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1323076
    ...and wish you luck in your own pursuit of truth.
    Which for me, has nothing to do with boredom, but is all about what is lurking behind the stage.
    And concerning this particular topic, much to do with my concern for all who are affected by the hidden agendas of the elites.
    Exiting this stage....
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    Please Onawah, when you’re bored with topics, find them tiresome, and/or don’t like members, please show some common decency and respect by staying away and keeping your inflammatory comments to yourself.
    Each breath a gift...
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    Hello Gemma13,

    YOUR COMMENT: Onawah quite frankly your rants are tiresome when you can’t help having a go at people doing their own due diligence in their corners of the world because it doesn’t fit one of your agendas.

    MY RESPONSE: Agreed. Hate is an ugly and counter-productive thing.

    YOUR COMMENT: Heaven Forbid if someone disagrees with the beliefs you have carved out for yourself. You’re not the only authority on the planet. Perhaps if you stopped being so paranoid about members on Avalon who have done nothing wrong and have just as every right as you to be here, you would actually see we’re all on the same bloody page for helping humanity and the environment.

    MY RESPONSE: Agreed. I have said the same thing many times using different words. We are all truthers here. We should be on the same side. We should all be on the side of TRUTH and AGAINST all forms of disinformation, that WITHIN the truth movement and that WITHOUT the truth movement. IT IS ABOUT THE TRUTH, NO MATTER WHAT THAT TRUTH HAPPENS TO BE. And, speaking of the environment, the word is that there are now 20 fires raging in Queensland. How is western Australia?

    YOUR COMMENT. Then ya gotta play the Mods card to try and “curb some imagined form of misbehaviour” over Snoop replying honestly to your insults. Then ya gotta lay on more intimidation tactics by claiming Avalonians would not welcome discussions about Global Warming from anyone that doesn’t believe in your stance. This isn’t a Flat Earth topic.

    MY RESPONSE: Yeah. Onawah has to complain about imaginary misconduct. After all, she cannot logically admit that her REAL complaint is that I am telling the truth and that she is trying to keep the truth a secret. It kind'a makes me wonder what kind of "truther" she is.

    YOUR COMMENT: Please Onawah, when you’re bored with topics, find them tiresome, and/or don’t like members, please show some common decency and respect by staying away and keeping your inflammatory comments to yourself.

    MY RESPONSE: I love you, man. You are on fire today! HAHAHAHA!

    All The Best,

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    Hi Snoop, yes dreadful fire conditions in Queensland. We are okay in the West so far, as our first fire has been contained to alert status in case it sparks again. Our emergency services are on red alert though as we have just entered our high temperature seasons. Thanks for asking.

    Re your response to xylo, I think you may have missed this comment from Onawah:
    Quote Onawah:
    And BTW, to quote exactly what Alexandra Bruce wrote to me about you: "He's created a chatbot that spams my comment board with anti-Tavares posts."

    I've alerted her to Tavaras as a very unreliable source, and given her the link to this thread.
    She's a very smart woman, and I think you will not have to spam her board about Tavares much longer.
    I've advised Kerry accordingly, and if you can convince her, you would be doing us all a favor,

    But if you use the same tactics as you've used on Alexandra, I doubt you will have any success.
    So irrespective of Onawah’s somewhat dogmatic approach of instructing members here on how much time, research, and activism they should be investing in Tavares et al I am grateful that Onawah has shared evidence about Tavares with other presenters.

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    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    I refer you to this: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1323076
    ...and wish you luck in your own pursuit of truth.
    Which for me, has nothing to do with boredom, but is all about what is lurking behind the stage.
    And concerning this particular topic, much to do with my concern for all who are affected by the hidden agendas of the elites.
    Exiting this stage....
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    Please Onawah, when you’re bored with topics, find them tiresome, and/or don’t like members, please show some common decency and respect by staying away and keeping your inflammatory comments to yourself.
    Onawah, trusting we can move on from this silly bickering. I looked at your link and thought your astrology message quite apt:

    Quote Thinking that ours is the best, our power the greatest, our opinion the only correct one, can bring us into bitter disputes. When we come into any situation with preconceived notions, it messes with our judgement. Being mindful to stay objective, to leave our prejudices out of the equation will help tremendously.

    Naturally, being extremely realistic, even a little cynical, is necessary at times. It gives us a much deeper understanding of our situation and where we stand in the scheme of things. Problems arise when we choose to share what we are thinking, especially what’s eating us about others. Then things can turn from supposedly calm and serene to a state of anguish and interminable frustration. But feelings must be shared, or we may implode.

    Until the situation is resolved, and it will take some confession, it will eat away at us. So no good bottling up our feelings, letting them stew. Let’s get whatever’s on our mind off our chest, sharing our thoughts honestly and openly so that we can move on. Only our dogged obstinacy and inflexibility can hold back our progress. Dislodging rigid, one-sided convictions and feelings will again give us a renewed, refreshed resolve and purpose."

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    I’m sorry to see the upset, but as I read onawah’s post, I’m inclined to point out that if there are endless diatribes in this thread, I am more likely the author. Snoop’s stuff is, to me, well formatted research findings. My stuff, on the other hand is not and I have a much more visceral response to Tavares. Perhaps from observing more of the day to day influence she has upon listeners. Simply put, I think she’s evil. I’ve come upon a few listeners who comment the same, including one woman, energy worker, who cites Tavares as demonic entity. I’m inclined to agree.

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