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    It is an interesting question?

    Quote Were you choosing a gift from the past to the future, what would it be?
    The above is from the Kolbrin.

    For me it must be knowledge. But I wonder what you would wish to have been given?

    I will post the rest of the salutation or prologue to the Bronze Book as I find it a beautiful read:

    Note: skip the next 2 quotes if you have already read the Kolbrin

    Quote Greetings, Unborn Ones, now asleep in the dark womb of the future.

    Greetings from we who were once as you are now and like whom you will one day be.
    We too hoped and feared, doubted and believed.
    Were you choosing a gift from the past to the future, what would it be?
    The golden treasures hoarded by kings?
    The bright jewels beloved by queens?
    Is worldly wealth still so important to you?
    If that would be your choice above all else, we are disappointed, for our labours have been in vain.
    Would you prefer the secret of life, of eternal youth? Have you altered so little from those who live and laugh today, with no thought turned towards the future?
    This thing which seems so desirable, were it yours would you value it?
    Would it never pall?
    Would you still be grateful for it after a thousand years have passed?

    The answer would be "yes" if this life were all, the beginning and end, complete in itself. But might not this life be no more than a prelude, an introduction to something infinitely greater?

    Is the riddle still unsolved, the secret of the ages still well kept, known only by a few, even when these words are read?
    How many generations have passed without progress?
    Does mankind still lie passive like driftwood upon the sea of spiritual apathy, driven back and forth by changeable winds and conflicting currents, making no headway?
    Could we leave you the knowledge enabling you to live a life without toil, surrounded by every luxury and pleasure; a magic stone granting every desire, an all healing potion, the ability to fly or know all things on Earth, would any of these satisfy the desires of your heart and fulfil your dreams?

    We who lie so far back along the road trust you have progressed beyond such petty aspirations.
    It is beyond our power to give such gifts, and were they ours to bestow we would withhold them, for unless a gift confers a benefit, it were better not given. With the wisdom of your generation, tell us, which of the things mentioned would really benefit you or even prove less bad than good?

    Or do you still remain unaware of your true nature and needs?

    Who you are, how you speak and dress (are you even like us in form?) we cannot know or imagine.
    This alone we know as truth, you are brother beings of ours and travel the road we once trod.
    We share one destiny and have the same true goal, though perhaps no more know in your day what these are than do in ours.
    Like to us life comes to you unbidden, it is fraught with problems and difficulties; it alternates between light and shade, and like us you wonder what awaits at the end.
    You, too, are victims of Earth's delusions; you, too, find Truth and Perfection beyond your grasp and you, too, aspire to beauty and goodness.
    These things we know about you, these things must be or you would not exist.
    Your needs are no different from ours, but do you now know with certainty what they are? Your life serves the same purpose, you are part of the same pattern, you are ruled by the same impulses and urges, but do you know why and to what end?
    We know you are without certainty and assurance about what lies beyond the veil of death, for these cannot be given while man remains no more than man, and doubtless like us you remain suspended between doubt and belief.

    Our Unborn Friends, whatever your circumstances of life you are the children of the past and heirs of those who have lived and died.
    We trust you have no cause to reproach those who once held stewardship over your estate.
    But whatever you think of the heritage, you cannot put it aside, any more than you can refuse the obligations of life.
    Maybe it brings you the happiness and security, the peace and plenty we never knew. If so, this will remain unread, for to you it would be a wilderness of words serving no purpose.
    If you have so much, if you have progressed so far, nothing we could give would be of benefit.
    To the traveler, information about the road behind is worthless.
    If this is your state we hail you, we are proud of you, our worthy children of light, conceived in the long dark years wherein we laboured and ploughed our own short furrow. You have done well and our greatest joy would be to stand beside you as you exaltingly reach out for the crowning glory of godhood.

    But you may be no more enlightened than we, in which case accept our offering as a token of our regret, our desire to make amends on behalf of those who preceded you, for if you remain lost in spiritual darkness the blame is theirs and not yours.

    This we give you, The Hidden Books containing the accumulated harvest of wisdom and Truth garnered over the generations, the bread and oil which sustained us and never diminished.
    May they serve you in your day as well as they served us.
    Above all, may you be sufficiently enlightened to receive them, for today we are persecuted because of our books, and most who treasured and guarded them are now dead. We can only consign these books to the ground and destiny, trusting they will be called forth at the proper time and in a receptive generation.

    These books, which we hand into the keeping of time, were written under the authority of revelation and inspiration.
    Containing Truth, their message cannot be attacked by time, for Truth is an eternal youth.
    We make no claim to exact and accurate statements beyond the possibility of error and misinterpretation, for words are frail messengers. They are fallible things unable to transmit accurately from mind to mind.
    Also, we cannot tell how they who resurrect the books will deal with the contents. They are written in letters known to the learned, but learning changes with the generations.

    These books are the glorious embodiment of Eternal Truth, but the words and expressions are unworthy garments so that misconception and misunderstanding are not possible.

    Words are servants of the fallible mortal sphere and when called upon to serve a realm of greater things prove inadequate. Therefore, be not like some petty-minded ones of our generation who say, "The letters are misplaced and the words ill used." They examine each blade of grass diligently, but fail to discover the purpose of the meadow. Such men lack insight and seeing only the bare letters say, "These tell me all, there is nothing
    more". We have a saying, "do not judge a place of instruction by its bricks". Wisdom, being eternal, doubtless this will apply no less in your generation.

    So, Unborn Unknowable Ones, we humbly tender this, the gift of the past which we could not pass on otherwise.
    If you have advanced far along the road towards greatness, it will have no value; but if you still dally or have wandered away, lost in the illusive mists of worldliness and none answers your cries, then take this hand extending out of the past. It will guide you faithfully and well.
    Down through the generations men have been persecuted, have suffered and died so that Truth and Goodness might prevail, remember them.

    If the world is good, then your peace and pleasures have been brought by their sacrifices.
    If it is not, then you must not quibble over the cost to yourselves in making it good.

    Surely no torments and terrors in your days could exceed those of the past!

    Farewell, Unborn Ones, with these few words we have reached from the day of the present into the night of the future. We have planted the seed, will it grow or rot in the ground? What crop will it produce? We cannot know.

    Let fate deal with it as it will, we have gathered the seed, flailed and winnowed it and kept it with every care.

    We have planted well, we can do no more.

    May life deal better with you than with us. May you never be denied the comforting hand of hope.

    Farewell!
    Now it may be a load of old duff matter but within the book are many interesting little bits!

    From the Kolbrin (page 165)....when a boy becomes a man, he takes a vow....wonder how many today could adhere to these words?

    Quote When a child stands on the threshold of manhood and his manly organs become active, he shall be made a man after the old custom. He shall be handed over the threshold stone and welcomed as in times past, but this shall be the new declaration:

    “I know without doubt what I am. I am the seed of divinity implanted within a body of flesh. I belong with those who walk the Great Path of the True Way and my place is beside them. I am a man knowing manly ways and I will do what is required of me as a man”.

    “My duty is to always protect those who walk with me and never deny my beliefs. I shall be steadfast even under persecution. The tormentors’ instruments will not open my mouth. I undertake to bring at least one convert into the light”.

    “My duty is to take a wife and beget children who will be raised in the light of the Great Path of the True Way. My duty is to provide for them in every way within my power and to instruct them in the paths of wisdom.”

    “My duty is to learn a skilled craft. I will be kind to animals, to vegetation and to the soil. I will not wilfully harm a wild creature or a tree. My duty is to oppose all forms of disorder and lawlessness. It is to learn the purpose of life and to try to understand the design of The Supreme Spirit Who laid all things out in orderliness. I know I must always keep my thoughts clean, my words true and good and my deeds manly.”

    “I know there is a path of evil. It is the way of weakness and cowardice, which leads to self-destruction. I will fight all forms of wickedness and evil wherever I find them and I know I cannot go manfully through life without opposition and struggle”.

    “I know that all men are born mortal and all must die in body, but I believe I am a soul with the potentiality of everlasting life. If, during the trials of life, I am assailed by doubt I will not remain passive before it”.

    “I promise to obey the code of manliness and to follow the paths of wisdom. My tongue will ever speak true and my hand do good. I know that just to do good is not sufficient, but I must attack evil. My duty is to oppose wicked men and their ways, and I will abide in peace with my brothers”.

    “My duty is to learn and to understand the teaching s of the Holy Writ, so that I may direct my children by its light. I will uphold and support the Brotherhood all the days of my life and expound its teachings to others. I acknowledge that only by example can I be a true and worthy exponent”.

    “I will never oppress any man for his belief, unless he first attack mine. Even then I will bear him with tolerance, until his oppression threatens to overwhelm me. I will never agree to the conversion of men by force, even for their own good, for this is an evil thing. My only arguments shall be example and common sense”.

    “The faith I hold shall not be something imprisoned within my thoughts, but something lived and expressed indeeds. I give thanks for the knowledge that I am a living soul, but I know full well the grave responsibility I bear towards my future being. I will not be a disgrace to Earth when I pass to the greater realm beyond.”

    “When I become a father of children I. shall accept responsibility for their wrongdoing, even as credit is claimed for their goodness. I shall not seek to blame others for my own failures. I shall be ever mindful of the good things of life and grateful for them. I shall suffer adversity and affliction with fortitude, rising above them like a man and not cringing before them like a dog under the stick of his master. Doubts, fears, unnatural desires and unmanly urges may lurk along my path, like forest demons which waylay those who travel, but I shall overcome them.”

    “I will not hide my contempt for the workers of wickedness and servants of evil, and though they may be in the seats of the mighty I will accord them no respect. I will never commend that which is wicked.”

    “I recognise that my soul and body compete for the satisfaction of their separate desires. I know that each day the body dies a little, that every day it draws nearer to the dark shore. Therefore, I will follow the precepts of prudence and each and every day will be a step forward in the awakening of my soul. I shall not punish my trueself for the sake of satisfying a decaying body”.

    “I will live in the light as revealed in the Holy Writ, the Written Light as revealed to the Brothers of the Book. I will live as a man, acknowledging my duties and obligations as a man, and I will die as a man.”
    So what would you consider is important to leave for the future generations?
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    Default Re: Were you choosing a gift from the past to the future, what would it be?

    I think a better one would be, 'Were you choosing a gift from the present to the past, what would it be?'.

    Because everything that we know of from the past will be known in the future so there is nothing we could gift that they won't already have.

    But knowledge from the present could greatly help the past and so change everything...

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    Default Re: Were you choosing a gift from the past to the future, what would it be?

    ..the past is part of us.....

    I wish we could bring into the future....a intact Nature & wild life.., clean air & waters...., true knowledge which did not get manipulated....
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    Thank you both....May I ask if you, 5TH and Whisper, did read the opening post or have you both already read the Kolbrin?
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    OK, guilty but you can't expect people to plow through over 2,200 words of dense print!

    I didn't realise it was a mythical question...

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    Default Re: Were you choosing a gift from the past to the future, what would it be?

    ups, what happened? I just did post my answer here and now it disappeared? Did you read it before it vanished lake & 5th?

    No answer? Ok...again...

    Yes, lake I did read your post. But never heard of the .Kolbrin... so far. It sure is interesting. But I don*t read this kind anymore. I gave it up to read the bibel and other religious books long time already, knowing it got to often rewritten, changed, parts taken out and put in..and so on.......to many manipulations going on.....for me....

    All the prophets did mainly say the same.......

    I am not connected to any religous organization anymore. I do believe in God and the good spirits and beliefe I don*t need any groups or organization to do so...... My conversations with the higher spirits is in privacy. I follow my inner beliefments and I do and listen to what my intuition tells me. I think the answers are all inside of us and when it is time for it - they will appear.

    I am talking only about, which is my way now - which does not mean it should be everybody*s way. There are many diffrent way*s which can lead to the same goal..........
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    I would choose a pristine and unaltered by man, Earth.
    "The only true currency in this bankrupt world is what we share with someone when we are uncool." From the movie "Almost Famous""l "Let yourself stand cool and composed before a million universes." Walt Whitman

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    I thought about this the other day and I would say the library of Alexandria...!

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