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    Protesters demand California Democratic megadonor Ed Buck's arrest amid second man found dead in his apartment

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    ----------- I don't think this need too much explanation -------------

    Protests erupted Tuesday outside the West Hollywood home of prominent Democratic donor Ed Buck, with activists calling for Buck's arrest after a man was found dead in the apartment early Monday -- 17 months after a deceased male escort was discovered there.


    In July of last year, prosecutors declined to file charges against Buck in the death of Moore. According to a coroner's report, Buck's apartment was full of drug paraphernalia, including 24 syringes containing brown residue, five glass pipes with white residue and burn marks, a plastic straw with possible white residue, clear plastic bags with white powdery residue and a clear plastic bag containing a piece of crystal-like substance.

    The Sheriff's Office also said they are now taking a second look at the death of Gemmel Moore -- the male escort whose body was found in Buck's apartment in July 2017 -- in the wake of Monday's discovery.


    Here is another take on this:

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/p...-his-apartment
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    Default Re: Protesters demand California Democratic megadonor Ed Buck's arrest amid second man found dead in his apartment

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    Protesters demand California Democratic megadonor Ed Buck's arrest amid second man found dead in his apartment
    This seems somewhat premature and with a whiff of lynch mob mentality .You cannot arrest and hold anybody without some sort of evidence that some sort of crime has been committed by them.
    If the protestors do not believe that the Sheriffs Office is honest they can surely wait until initial findings are presented .
    Anyway , how many protestors were involved ? Were there five but shot CNN style to look like a mob or were there truly many ?

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    Default Re: Protesters demand California Democratic megadonor Ed Buck's arrest amid second man found dead in his apartment

    You can tell exactly what this is:

    First the news source is fox news. That is your first red flag.

    Second, his political affiliations are put like it matters for this case.

    Third, they are making this sound like it a million man march on the police department with the implication that the police are protecting this rich dude?

    For people who hate the Mainstream media, many people around here sure like fox news.

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    Two dead men in a year, drug paraphernalia, What else do you need, a confession. Don't understand your logic, this is about the deaths , not the protest. Your complaining about the media coverage and have lost sight of the crimes. You can't see the forest for the trees.

    Go to the other source, if you don't like the other one . This happened, research it don't have a knee jerk reaction to it.

    Praxis "For people who hate the Mainstream media, many people around here sure like fox news"

    You sound like you have a bias.

    Once again it's about the crimes not the protest. try this link if you don't like the one you read, there are many to look at.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/p...-his-apartment

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    Default Re: Protesters demand California Democratic megadonor Ed Buck's arrest amid second man found dead in his apartment

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    What else do you need, a confession. Don't understand your logic, this is about the deaths , not the protest.]
    You need exactly that -- a confession -- or independent hard evidence that acts as its own confession .
    The actual and required protest is automatically covered by democratic institutions ----- the Police Department and all the related services .
    You don't need people to parade and protest about the deaths per se .
    You only need protests when matters are not followed - up properly or where there is evidence that follow - up was insufficient and/or deficient .
    Sure this guy looks in deep trouble . But The Rule of Law must be preserved first, second and last .

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    Why didn't you mention the drugs , the syringes, and the whole quote that I wrote :"Two dead men in a year, drug paraphernalia" were you trying to skew the conversation, that's what main stream media does, I guess you're more like them than you think.

    P.S. The evidence is all ready there .... read the articles, there are many. And you must be kidding... "Rule of law must be preserved," what it needs to be is carried out, that is the inference of the article. The rule of law was not carried out because he is a big donner to a political party that controls the state that this happened in ....... GET IT NOW ...
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    Default Re: Protesters demand California Democratic megadonor Ed Buck's arrest amid second man found dead in his apartment

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    Why didn't you mention the drugs , the syringes, and the whole quote that I wrote :"Two dead men in a year, drug paraphernalia" were you trying to skew the conversation, that's what main stream media does, I guess you're more like them than you think.

    P.S. The evidence is all ready there .... read the articles, there are many. And you must be kidding... "Rule of law must be preserved," what it needs to be is carried out, that is the inference of the article. The rule of law was not carried out because he is a big donner to a political party that controls the state that this happened in ....... GET IT NOW ...
    Ramus I get it all . And I mean everything .
    The Police Department have opened up first death enquiries .
    Time will show whether they made mistakes earlier or whether corruption played a part . i am quite capable of making both obvious and nuanced inferences but it is not our jobs to act as jurors , prosecutors and judge (s) . That is what the Rule Of Law is about -- not behaving like vigilantes , lynch mob members or sometimes dogmatic blind fools . Neither you or I can definitively rule out Professor Plum or the Butler , Mad Axe Man Cedric .

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    Default Re: Protesters demand California Democratic megadonor Ed Buck's arrest amid second man found dead in his apartment

    Thats it! Two crosses the line!
    When you are one step ahead of the crowd, you are a genius.
    Two steps ahead, and you are deemed a crackpot.

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    Default Re: Protesters demand California Democratic megadonor Ed Buck's arrest amid second man found dead in his apartment

    its amazing what rich people get away with, you can almost buy your way out of any crime you commit. He would have been arrested if he wasn't rich....

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    Default Re: Protesters demand California Democratic megadonor Ed Buck's arrest amid second man found dead in his apartment

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    its amazing what rich people get away with, you can almost buy your way out of any crime you commit. He would have been arrested if he wasn't rich....

    Why on earth do you find that surprising ? We have a hierarchical power and riches structure which is more efficiently handled by authoritarian figures .Albeit primarily for their own benefit .
    The on- going battle is to fight for Rule Of Law while fighting against tyranny and corruption . Often the latter win - the bad guys -- and certainly in the short term .
    But do you then want to make it easier or harder for them in the future ? That is why the Sheeple must become aware of the facts , get involved and force change through the Rule of Law, wherever and whenever possible . The moment you behave as badly as your oppressors ,you simply become a less efficient version of them .And without moral integrity .imho

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    @ ripple you can dance around all you want but, don't have doubt about a obvious bad egg. 2 over doses in 2 years 28 syringes drug ,residue.
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    2nd man found dead at Democratic donor Ed Buck’s West Hollywood apartment is identified

    https://www.dailynews.com/2019/01/10...is-identified/

    "In ruling Moore’s death an accident, the coroner’s office noted that there was drug paraphernalia found in the home, along with sex toys and clear plastic bags containing what was suspected to be methamphetamine, according to a coroner’s report obtained by the Times.

    According to the newspaper, the report also noted that somebody at the scene “is suspected to be known to exchange drugs for sex,” but the name was redacted. The report said Moore was found naked on a living room mattress with a “male pornography movie playing on the television,” according to the Times.

    Amster has said Buck and Moore were good friends, and told The Times that Buck did not witness Moore injecting drugs the night he died.

    Moore’s mother, LaTisha Nixon, continued to push the sheriff’s department to investigate her son’s death. She noted that her son had been living with her in Texas, but Buck bought him a plane ticket to return to Los Angeles, which he did the day he died. According to the Times, Moore had previously been homeless and worked as an escort.


    P.S. the coverage is drying up ... go figure ...

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/p...-his-apartment ... this one has taken down the article

    https://www.dailynews.com/2019/01/10...is-identified/ ..... this one is still up with more detail than the first article

    https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/...109-story.html

    Buck, a 64-year-old white man, previously was investigated for the July 2017 death of Gemmel Moore, 26, who died of a methamphetamine overdose in Buck’s apartment, which was littered with drug paraphernalia, according to a Los Angeles County coroner’s report. Prosecutors this summer declined to file charges.

    She believes Buck has gotten special treatment because of his activism and fundraising for local Democratic candidates, a charge officials have denied. In the past, he has donated money to President Obama, Hillary Clinton, former state Sen. Kevin de León, U.S. Rep. Ted Lieu, West Hollywood city council candidates and other politicians.

    “It’s more than race and class,” Cannick said. “It is also political. This is a man protected by the Democratic Party.”

    On Tuesday, Lieu said he donated campaign contributions from Buck to LGBTQ and African American advocacy organizations, including GLAAD and the NAACP.

    On Tuesday, Jackie Tepper, who has known Buck for 25 years and lives in the complex next door, stood outside Buck’s building and yelled toward his window: “Shame on you! Shame on you!”

    Tepper, a 58-year-old film producer, said she was upset that protesters accused neighbors — who have complained about Buck to authorities and the building manager — of being complicit. She wondered how it would be perceived if neighbors called the cops about black men coming to Buck’s home, citing news stories about mostly white people making racist assumptions about bystanders.

    If it walks like a duck quacks like a duck . It's probably not guilty of being a duck because no one witness it being born from ducks.
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    Default Re: Protesters demand California Democratic megadonor Ed Buck's arrest amid second man found dead in his apartment

    Activist Jasmyne Cannick has been investigating predator Ed Buck since the first death (of Gemmel Moore) and found evidence he was cruising for new victims while still under investigation for Moore's death. In July 2018, via Twitter, Cannick predicted/warned there'd be another death in Buck's home and unfortunately, she was correct. Unbelievable Buck wasn't even charged with possession of controlled substances when they were clearly strewn about his apartment.

    Some links:

    New Video and Receipts Show White Democratic Donor Continued to Lure Young Black Gay Men with Money and Meth While Under Investigation for Homicide


    'Serial predator': L.A. writer has been sounding alarm on Ed Buck for over a year


    Predictive/Warning Tweet
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    @ cursichella 1 .. Thanks for the articles as I was writing this things started to get harder to find. thanks

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    Default Re: Protesters demand California Democratic megadonor Ed Buck's arrest amid second man found dead in his apartment

    Here is more on Ed Buck:

    Who is Ed Buck? The erratic life of the Democratic donor in whose home two dead men have been found

    By Hailey Branson-Potts, Richard Winton and Matt Hamilton
    Jan 18, 2019 | 4:50 PM

    https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/...110-story.html

    In another case for which records still exist, a 2002 request for a temporary restraining order against Buck, James de Jarnette, a Los Angeles

    Buck eventually made his way to Southern California, where, court records show, he has been the subject of several requests for restraining orders. Records from three cases from 2007 that involved Buck were destroyed by the Los Angeles Superior Court.

    psychotherapist, wrote that Buck came to his home for an evaluation, spoke about having narcolepsy and “seemed to want amphetamines.”

    When De Jarnette said he could not prescribe medication, Buck “told me what a sorry human I am,” De Jarnette wrote. Buck called him back hours later and said, “You will feel my pain; I’m on my way over,” according to court records and a police report.

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