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    700,000 years old skull discovered in Greek cave in 1959 shatters Out of Africa theory

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    The "Petralona man", or "Archanthropus of Petralona"

    The "Petralona man", or "Archanthropus of Petralona", is a 700,000-year-old human skull discovered in 1959. Since then, scientists have been trying to trace this skull's origin, a process that has caused considerable controversy.

    The skull, indicating the oldest human "europeoid" (presenting European traits), was embedded in a cave's wall in Petralona, near Chalkidiki in Northern Greece. The cave, rich in stalactites and stalagmites, was accidentally located by a shepherd. Dr. Aris Poulianos, an expert anthropologist, member of the UNESCO's International Union of Anthropological and Ethnological Sciences and founder of the Anthropological Association of Greece, was assigned a research on the cave and skull.



    Before that, Dr. Poulianos was already known for his thesis on "The origin of the Greeks". His thesis was based on craniological and anthropometrical studies of Modern Greek populations, which proved that modern Greeks are related to ancient Greeks and that they are not the descendants of Slavic nations. After the extensive study on the 700,000-year-old skull, he concluded that the "Petralona man" was not connected to the species that came out of Africa. His arguments were mainly based on the skull's almost perfect orthography, the shape of its dental arch, and the occipital bone construction. According to the "Out of Africa" theory, "anatomically modern humans" known as "Homo sapiens" originated in Africa between 200,000 and 100,000 years ago before spreading to the rest of the world. This theory was related to the fact that most prehistoric fossils were found in Africa.

    In 1964, two German researchers, anthropologist E. Breitinger and paleontologist O. Sickenberg, who were invited to Greece, suggested that the skull was actually 50,000 years old, thus rejecting Dr. Poulianos' theory. Moreover, Breitinger claimed that the skull belonged to the "first African out of Africa". A few years later, in 1971, US Archaeology magazine confirmed Poulianos' statement. According to the scientific magazine, the existence of a cave dating back more than 700,000 years and human presence in almost every geological layer were ascertained. Additionally, the magazine affirmed that human presence became evident from the discovery of Paleolithic tools of the same age and the most ancient traces of fire that was ever lit by human hand. The research continued from 1975 to 1983, when the excavation stopped and findings remained inaccessible to study until 1997.


    Today, 50 years after the discovery of the "Petralona man", modern methods of absolute chronology confirm Dr. Poulianos' theory. Most academics believe that the skull belongs to an archaic hominid with strong European traits and characteristics of Homo erectus, Neanderthals and sapiens, but they distinguish it from all these species. This incredible discovery raises new questions on human evolution, and certainly challenges the "Out of Africa" theory.

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    References:
    1. http://www.ancient-origins.net/human-origins-science/human-skull-challenges-out-africa-theory-001283
    2. http://anthro.palomar.edu/homo2/mod_homo_1.htm
    3. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1475-4754.1992.tb00483.x/abstract
    4. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0305440379900025


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    https://www.rt.com/news/480784-extin...-found-africa/

    Quote Researchers at the University of California have discovered that hidden deep in the DNA code of present-day humans is evidence of an extinct human species, detectable only by a few tell-tale genetic markers lingering in their ancestors ... With the help of mathematical models and computer-aided number crunching, the team estimates that this archaic hominin split off from the ancestor of Neanderthals and modern humans between 360,000 and 1 million years ago. Then, from about 124,000 years ago, that break-off hominin reunited with the ancestors of modern West Africans and interbred with them, for an unknown period of time. They believe that the population of this introgressing hominin group was about 25,000 strong.
    For those who study pre-history, perhaps it's no coincidence that this hominin reunited with West Africans about 124,000 years ago around the same time that the Annunaki began their genetic manipulation and created the Adam in their "garden of eden" (e.din). Was it the DNA of this mysterious hominin that they used in their genetic mix?
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    Quote Posted by Andre (here)
    https://www.rt.com/news/480784-extin...-found-africa/

    Quote Researchers at the University of California have discovered that hidden deep in the DNA code of present-day humans is evidence of an extinct human species, detectable only by a few tell-tale genetic markers lingering in their ancestors ... With the help of mathematical models and computer-aided number crunching, the team estimates that this archaic hominin split off from the ancestor of Neanderthals and modern humans between 360,000 and 1 million years ago. Then, from about 124,000 years ago, that break-off hominin reunited with the ancestors of modern West Africans and interbred with them, for an unknown period of time. They believe that the population of this introgressing hominin group was about 25,000 strong.
    For those who study pre-history, perhaps it's no coincidence that this hominin reunited with West Africans about 124,000 years ago around the same time that the Annunaki began their genetic manipulation and created the Adam in their "garden of eden" (e.din). Was it the DNA of this mysterious hominin that they used in their genetic mix?
    Interesting stuff here, excerpted from http://www.conscioushugs.com/wp-cont...I-Daniel-1.pdf

    If we apply the same logic to the 2800 BCE date, we end up at 2209 BCE, corrected calendar, with the
    Biblical Flood sitting at 2105 BC, a very close match. So we can now draw the following correlations
    as a starting point:

    Year, BCE Year, AM Long Count Accepted Year, BCE Events
    3761 0 0.0.0.0.1 50,000 Biblical Creation of Adam & Eve.
    Mayan Creation of Human World.
    First destruction of Atlantis.
    2105 1656 2.19.16.0.0 28,000 Biblical Deluge.
    Mayan Deluge, only about 5.5 modern years from the end of the 3rd Baktun.
    Second destruction of Atlantis.
    1548 2213 4.0.0.0.0 9,600 Hebrew Exodus from Egypt.
    Third destruction of Atlantis.
    The inference is obvious; mankind was created by “God” or “gods” around 3761 BC,
    which we are incorrectly dating as 50,000 BCE. So it may be interesting to see what
    else may have been going on at 50,000 BCE that might be of interest, and we find: “These ‘types’ of Early Modern Humans
    [Neanderthals] supposedly evolved into the next step toward actual humans—the Cro-Magnons, living
    50,000 to 60,000 years ago.”54 With the corrected calendar, 50,000 BCE becomes 3761 BC and the
    Cro-Magnons, us, showed up in the geological record at the same time as Adam and Eve and the
    Mayan creation of man, right after the first destruction of Atlantis, and missing a link to the
    Neanderthals that were previously overrunning the land, much to the annoyance of the Atlanteans.
    This is congruent with the Biblical accounts of the creation of Adam and Eve being the first humans
    that God created on Earth. First humans, yes, but not the first intelligent species to exist on Earth. The
    Atlanteans were intelligent—just not human—so they predate the Biblical accounts.
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    3761 0 0.0.0.0.1 50,000 Biblical Creation of Adam & Eve.
    Mayan Creation of Human World.
    First destruction of Atlantis.
    2105 1656 2.19.16.0.0 28,000 Biblical Deluge.
    Mayan Deluge, only about 5.5 modern years from the end of the 3rd Baktun.
    Second destruction of Atlantis.
    1548 2213 4.0.0.0.0 9,600 Hebrew Exodus from Egypt.
    Third destruction of Atlantis.
    Very interesting. The same conversation is being had over in the Racism thread beginning with post 361.

    The timelines are confusing to me and I'm not sure how to read these numbers. Can you explain them a bit more please.

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    Quote Posted by Mark/Rahkyt (here)
    Quote Posted by DSKlausler (here)
    3761 0 0.0.0.0.1 50,000 Biblical Creation of Adam & Eve.
    Mayan Creation of Human World.
    First destruction of Atlantis.
    2105 1656 2.19.16.0.0 28,000 Biblical Deluge.
    Mayan Deluge, only about 5.5 modern years from the end of the 3rd Baktun.
    Second destruction of Atlantis.
    1548 2213 4.0.0.0.0 9,600 Hebrew Exodus from Egypt.
    Third destruction of Atlantis.
    Very interesting. The same conversation is being had over in the Racism thread beginning with post 361.

    The timelines are confusing to me and I'm not sure how to read these numbers. Can you explain them a bit more please.
    These are the three dates closely associated with the stages of destruction of Atlantis.

    50,000 BCE 1st stage

    28,000 BCE 2nd stage

    10,000 BCE 3rd and Final stage

    They resemble Edgar Cayce's writings almost identically.

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    Cayce is said to have been "influenced by" Ignatius Donnelly who set to prove thirteen hypotheses in 1882.

    It is a detailed agreement with Plato online in its entirety.

    I recall it being considerably older than 50,000, more like a million years for the first cataclysm.

    In any case, theories like "Out of Africa" do not seem to be sustainable, I don't see how limits can be placed in situations where it should be obvious there could be any amount of additional evidence yet to be found. Judging by a zircon crystal from Australia, it seems fairly reasonable to conclude the crust had cooled and solidified about four and a half billion years ago. That leaves a lot of wiggle room for a whole civilization to come and go, and, if a lot of it is under the ocean floor, it would be hard to find.

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    Quote Posted by shaberon (here)
    Cayce is said to have been "influenced by" Ignatius Donnelly who set to prove thirteen hypotheses in 1882.

    I recall it being considerably older than 50,000, more like a million years for the first cataclysm.
    Cayce is quite specific and unambiguous about the dates above being the natural destruction of Atlantis.

    I think there may be another date that's becoming confused with this which is:

    219,000 - 210,000 BCE

    the date Cayce gives for the start of the process of incarnation of a social group of highly advanced souls to create the foundings of Atlantis.

    That also maybe was the influence of Ignatius Donnelly.

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    Does anyone know what that is protruding from the top of the skull in the first photo in post #1?
    It looks like some kind of horn, but perhaps it is a tool or a weapon that was the cause of death.
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