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    I think it’s what we are naturally supposed to eat to stay healthy.
    Tony Wright, a fruitarian himself, and author of Return to the Brain of Eden: Restoring the Connection between Neurochemistry and Consciousness has a fascinating theory around the connection between fruit and the downfall of mankind.

    This is a synopsis of his book.
    An exploration of our fall from the pinnacle of human evolution 200,000 years ago and how we can begin our return

    • Explores recent neurological and psychological research on the brain and the role of plant biochemistry in human brain expansion

    • Explains how humanity’s prehistoric diet change led to a neurodegenerative condition characterized by aggression and a fearful perception of the world

    • Outlines a strategy of raw foods, tantric sexuality, shamanic practices, and entheogens to reverse our mental degeneration and restore our advanced abilities

    Over a period of a million years the human brain expanded at an increasingly rapid rate, and then, 200,000 years ago, the expansion abruptly stopped. Modern science has overlooked this in order to maintain that we are at the pinnacle of our evolution. However, the halt in brain expansion explains not only recently uncovered anomalies within the human brain but also the global traditions of an earthly paradise lost and of humanity’s degeneration from our original state of perpetual wonder and joy.

    Drawing on more than 20 years of research, authors Tony Wright and Graham Gynn explore how our modern brains are performing far below their potential and how we can unlock our higher abilities and return to the euphoria of Eden. They explain how for millions of years early forest-dwelling humans were primarily consuming the hormone-rich sex organs of plants--fruit--each containing a highly complex biochemical cocktail evolved to influence DNA transcription, rapid brain development, and elevated neural and pineal gland activity. Citing recent neurological and psychological studies, the authors explain how the loss of our symbiotic fruit-based diet led to a progressive neurodegenerative condition characterized by aggressive behaviors, a fearful perception of the world, and the suppression of higher artistic, mathematical, and spiritual abilities.

    The authors show how many shamanic and spiritual traditions were developed to counteract our decline. They outline a strategy of raw foods, tantric sexuality, shamanic practices, and entheogen use to reverse our degeneration, restore our connection with the plant world, and regain the bliss and peace of the brain of Eden.



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    Constance, thanks for a most interesting and informative post. I eat a vegetarian diet that is mostly fresh, raw sprouts, veggies and fruits. In the summer when my fruit trees and berries produce I eat a lot more fresh fruit and notice a distinct difference. There is a lightness and vitality for me when primarily eating fruit. I am also fortunate enough to get it when it is very fresh from the vine or tree. I also notice the ease of digestion and a calmness and clarity of mind.
    Hi Peterpam

    I'm so glad that you have such good experiences around fruit
    In the village that I live in, we also have lots of fruit growing, just nothing ripe at the moment that I can sink my teeth into.

    Quote I believe the fear that some have of blood sugar imbalances and tooth decay could be more likely if one is consuming lots of juices. Eating whole unadulterated fruit slows down the digestive process and doesn't give a concentrated blast of glucose.
    My personal experiences have been very different around consuming lots of juices. In my opening post you may have already noticed that I consume a lot of juice nearly every day without any ill effects to my health (why, I don't claim to know) but it is interesting that there is the fear around blood sugar imbalances and tooth decay if one is consuming lots of juices.

    I have read many anecdotal stories, listened to lots of videos and read many books around this subject and all I can say is if someone is drinking a lot of juice and they are experiencing issues with either that they need to stop immediately.
    There may be an underlying issue that needs to be addressed.

    I have a whole bunch of fruity friends who really love their juices, have incredible stamina, experience marvellous health and vitality and who don't suffer from tooth decay but it is not going to be the same experience for everyone and once again, the caveat is, If in doubt, stay out.
    I edited this post because I realised that I might have been a bit insensitive to those with juice issues. mea culpa

    In relation to our teeth, I do often wonder about toothbrushes and the effectiveness of them. I stopped brushing my teeth when I realised that I could use a tooth blotter instead.

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    Drawing on more than 20 years of research, authors Tony Wright and Graham Gynn explore how our modern brains are performing far below their potential and how we can unlock our higher abilities and return to the euphoria of Eden. They explain how for millions of years early forest-dwelling humans were primarily consuming the hormone-rich sex organs of plants--fruit--each containing a highly complex biochemical cocktail evolved to influence DNA transcription, rapid brain development, and elevated neural and pineal gland activity. Citing recent neurological and psychological studies, the authors explain how the loss of our symbiotic fruit-based diet led to a progressive neurodegenerative condition characterized by aggressive behaviors, a fearful perception of the world, and the suppression of higher artistic, mathematical, and spiritual abilities.
    I was contemplating the garden of eden before I checked back on this thread, and now you're giving me the creeps! But in a good way

    Does it say anything or insinuate anything about where the garden was? I'm inclined to think the garden was not on Earth.

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    Drawing on more than 20 years of research, authors Tony Wright and Graham Gynn explore how our modern brains are performing far below their potential and how we can unlock our higher abilities and return to the euphoria of Eden. They explain how for millions of years early forest-dwelling humans were primarily consuming the hormone-rich sex organs of plants--fruit--each containing a highly complex biochemical cocktail evolved to influence DNA transcription, rapid brain development, and elevated neural and pineal gland activity. Citing recent neurological and psychological studies, the authors explain how the loss of our symbiotic fruit-based diet led to a progressive neurodegenerative condition characterized by aggressive behaviors, a fearful perception of the world, and the suppression of higher artistic, mathematical, and spiritual abilities.
    I was contemplating the garden of eden before I checked back on this thread, and now you're giving me the creeps! But in a good way

    Does it say anything or insinuate anything about where the garden was? I'm inclined to think the garden was not on Earth.
    It's been a couple of years since I last read it (it comes off the shelf every 4 or 5 years or so) but I think he is not being specific regarding the location. Eden is a metaphor from his perspective and a synonym for the equatorial rain forests where fruit is abundant all year round, thus allowing for the kind of development he postulates.

    I don't think there is a PDF but that is probably a good thing because then Tony will continue to get revenue from what is without doubt a seminal work. Buy it!!!
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    I believe our mental state plays a huge role in physical health. Many teachers claim that what the body needs is pulled from the air/ether/cosmos/universe. It may not matter what we eat, as long as it is not toxic. If a person sincerely believes that all their nutritional needs are met by eating cotton balls, then that may work for them. Yes, that is a silly and extreme example.

    Evidence for this idea may be found in those who practice as a breatharian or sungazer. Granted, this is a controversial topic. Where is Dawn? Dr. David Hawkins, my spiritual hero, said that for years he lived on hard cheese, apples, and sodas. He claimed that he received what his body needed from God. He lived a long, very productive life.

    The newly popular Anthony Williams, The Medical Medium exclaims the virtues and great benefit of fruits. He is a very interesting medical intuitive. He allayed my fears of fruit sugars.
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    Default Re: A journey into being fruitarian

    I maybe wrong about this - but wasn't Steve Jobs a fruitarian?

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    It’s important to realise that whatever we eat- physically, energetically or mentally- becomes part of us - that’s before we are able to dispose of it anyway.
    Thus we eat the environment- the energy and the chemistry of it- gases, liquids, particles, microbes, pheromones, dust , other creatures live information who are or were inhabiting the same space.
    Where it comes to taking coarse physical pieces of biological matter to our mouth and ingesting it, one should be super cautious -from universal perspective.

    Even though most humans still live in forgetfulness of their primordial state of natural wisdom and given the complexity and downfalls of human history, much can be also attributed to centuries of famines and forced starvation - usually followed by historical periods of super feeding, protein rich diets and general overconsumption.

    One of the last such observable famine to indulgence epochs could be observed in Europe and many other parts of world following the WWII. But also in modern India for example who suffered waves of famine during and post British colonization period and with 1.5 billion people it took very long time to revert a phenomenon of starvation and widespread hunger to abundance- still not there- but overconsumption is looming over( now that was a joke).

    In short and what I wanted to say really: whatever we take to our mouth becomes a part of us. Eating flesh and blood of other living creatures is quite predatory from Universal perspective.
    Even if not native to humans but only adopted habit they’ve still been doing this for considerable amount of time to become predators.

    And it’s the exact reason for confused and warlike state of civilisation as we know it.

    If we all ate just fruits there would be couple of arguments but doubtfully so much aggression.

    It would be more fun and joy to live in such kind of human society- we would be more childlike but certainly not more primitive.
    It takes time to convince people to try to abstain from meat or animal based foods in general but it’s an important call to those who want to see real change in their lives happening, physical not only mental change.

    “May all keep healthy and happy the way it fits them the best
    If guest gets eaten will the host accomplish his quest
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    I don't think there is a PDF but that is probably a good thing because then Tony will continue to get revenue from what is without doubt a seminal work. Buy it!!!
    Tony and Graham Gyn produced a free PDF before they renamed the book, Return to the Brain of Eden: Restoring the Connection between Neurochemistry and Consciousness. It is called Left in the Dark
    It is a truncated version of the full book but it is still a fabulous introduction to his/their work.
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    Hi Constance, I come here following the link you posted on " Joints, inflammation, and all that stuff ", by Bill Ryan . I have not better english , but I promise not invite you to eat marinated green beans, I swear.

    Recently I develop a grid of experiences with plants, focusing in herbs, inspired by extra-physical friends , that I suppose be ETs , who tasked me to work hard day-by-day growing plants , to discover myself one of the results of the task, as follows :

    They inspired me that plants, especially herbs, are wonderful friends and can be easely work energetically with us (humans). This fascinating simbiose , or in other word Sinergy , can be obtainned if you care the plant , while the plant can care of you , supplying substances . Its Simple as That !!

    For example - with age, women need more calcium and iron than men to be health. Men body need more B complex, B12. I'm only saying this basic substances for example, because there are more complex composed substances, like polyphenols , antioxidants , that migh takes this story too far , as long as a imagination and metabolic substances are.

    And so, returned to the basic reasoning, the plant can metabolize more calcium, or more iron, or more phosphate, etc, and beyond, can produce more antioxidants , etc , according you needed , more or less of course.

    If you care the plant, making the plant feel good to live with you, the plants that you Eat will care you too, supplying substances that make you well.

    Then, plants that you Eat like herbs, flowers, seeds, leafs, fruits, roots, any kind, you can choose some of them for cultivation , learn a few how to cultivate and try to be friend of this living beings. It Works !!!

    It works because part of us (our DNA), live like plants in vegetative state, and so, we can (energetically) communicate with them in some way.

    I'm telling you this, because this thread seems to me you need qualified substances. Other oportunity I share more details about this work with plants, and why the (supposed) ETs inspired me to make this experiences. Maybe I can ask them to inspire you too .. (lol)

    For now, feel free to ask anything, if you want.
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    It works because part of us (our DNA), live like plants in vegetative state, and so, we can (energetically) communicate with them in some way.

    I'm telling you this, because this thread seems to me you need qualified substances. Other oportunity I share more details about this work with plants, and why the (supposed) ETs inspired me to make this experiences. Maybe I can ask them to inspire you too .. (lol)

    For now, feel free to ask anything, if you want.
    I believe plants have a will (of sorts), and that we can communicate with them, just not with words of course.
    I heard someone talking about how plants have control of their own DNA once, but I cannot find any reference to this online! Maybe that's not true, but it's interesting to imagine that in some ways, plants might be "smarter than people". Something to ask the ET's about, perhaps - I imagine they'd know more about DNA than we do.

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    I heard someone talking about how plants have control of their own DNA once, but I cannot find any reference to this online! Maybe that's not true, but it's interesting to imagine that in some ways, plants might be "smarter than people". Something to ask the ET's about, perhaps - I imagine they'd know more about DNA than we do.
    Hi petra, thanks for reply. I tell you don't need to ask this ETs, first because, they probably will say " We answer only things that you cannnot discover for yourselves " , and second, benevolent beings dont interferes in Free Will evolution of others, in this case, mine, your, and why not to all of us, humans. I think thats exactly the case, and fortunately can answer you. Rather, I must introduce the subject because it is really vast and fascinating.

    Before, I notice this ET behavior relatively guarantees they are a benevolent kind, remember that, and think they come here not for help us, but they help if they can, being happy with us to doing this as a friends. Don't forget this if you sense possible " aliens feelings or thoughs " inside you. This notice aims to reject anything doubtful or poorly understood, because may be a trap to fool you, not sended from the good cosmic workers. I also recommend you filter everything I say, never " believing " in nothing whithout a minimum wise scrutiny. Thats enough.

    Well, follow my reasoning -- the human consciense are saying more evoluted than plants, but plants are able to metabolize organic substances with very low entropy. About 99% of energy absorved from solar rays are used by plants to transform mineral (inorganic) substances in amino acids, maybe proteins, etc. With this proteins, they build new fibers and textures to grow. Inside this fibers and textures there are " DNA ".

    Then, if living beings can build their own DNA by own metabolism, they can (at least) adapt it under own demand, to grow more better, or to survive more better in adverse circunstances, or also, to evolute new capabilities, maybe only possible in next generations, but by definition, can build and change their own DNA. Thats the Point, we are discussing here to clarify my answer to you.

    All living beings can " relatively control their own DNA " - This its true !!
    But its not immediate, and the changes takes time to consolide, etc, etc

    In favour this argument, I remember that for milenials, humans modify (adapt) DNA of Plants, Dogs, Cows, Lambs, even creating new races. This knowledge is currently hidden, I suppose not with good intentions, but I hope so, not for long.
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    I think it was the books Anastasia The Ringing Cedars where they mention that putting seeds in your mouth before planting gives the seed info on what you in particular need and it grows according to those needs.

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    Well, follow my reasoning -- the human consciense are saying more evoluted than plants, but plants are able to metabolize organic substances with very low entropy. About 99% of energy absorved from solar rays are used by plants to transform mineral (inorganic) substances in amino acids, maybe proteins, etc. With this proteins, they build new fibers and textures to grow. Inside this fibers and textures there are " DNA ".

    Then, if living beings can build their own DNA by own metabolism, they can (at least) adapt it under own demand, to grow more better, or to survive more better in adverse circunstances, or also, to evolute new capabilities, maybe only possible in next generations, but by definition, can build and change their own DNA. Thats the Point, we are discussing here to clarify my answer to you.

    All living beings can " relatively control their own DNA " - This its true !!
    But its not immediate, and the changes takes time to consolide, etc, etc

    In favour this argument, I remember that for milenials, humans modify (adapt) DNA of Plants, Dogs, Cows, Lambs, even creating new races. This knowledge is currently hidden, I suppose not with good intentions, but I hope so, not for long.
    Wow rogparan, this is fascinating to think about and a lot to take in!
    In my mind, this is boiling down to "playing God" and it's kind of scary to think about too. I'm 110% certain we have more control than we realize.

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    Hi petra, I warned the developments were fascinating, to say the least.

    With all respect (i don't know what you believe, or if believe), I understand that playing God it's a cliche, used by whom still believe that God it's unreachable Out of living beings. But who already understand that God is "with'IN", the Life Paradigm changes to discover and awake the Divine inheritance inside each one.

    one wise hint - if you know and are sure, don't need to believe anymore about.

    I'm only pointing here targets of interest and practicall possibilities to achieve, being friend of plants. Can appears surprisingly at first glance but if it wasn't possible do to, I wouldn't have done so well, and learned a lot.
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