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    Just came back from my best friend's house, whom I haven't seen in two years. Knowing ahead of time that he is infected by Trump derangement syndrome, this time not one word was spoken about politics in three days! I accidentally mentioned Trump in passing and he started in immediately. I quickly deflected the convo to more peaceful topics. He is waiting for impeachment with bated breath...

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    Impeachment will not happen, if they actually voted on it (the house as a whole has the power to do this, not Nancy) then the repubs would have subpoena power. Not going to happen. They will just drag this out for as long as possible. This is a coup attempt. I am not a Trumpster but you are watching in real time the United States being turned into a banana republic.

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    This is a short clip of a robot which is a very scary picture of a force being developed. Our guns would not make any difference. We cannot expect they will help us create the future we want.

    twitter post

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    Watch the last half of this video. Cogent analysis of the upcoming Disaster.

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    Quote Posted by Delight (here)
    This is a short clip of a robot which is a very scary picture of a force being developed. Our guns would not make any difference. We cannot expect they will help us create the future we want.

    twitter post
    It's CGI, don't worry! (And so is this fun follow-up )

    https://twitter.com/QTAnon1/status/1188285881209081856
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    President Trump is not getting impeached and all these daily articles on civil war are only on the minds of these of the lunatic media that speak of polls of 7 out of 10 Americans worry about a civil war . Ah ,yes the infamous polls brought to you by the same BS institutions of the media. I'm a pretty dialed in individual with large associations of friends, There's nobody I know talking about a civil anything. This reminds me of the attorneys that want to sue someone , so they throw all this crap on the wall day after day until something of goo eventually sticks to the wall. At least that's what the "if it bleeds it leads media would hope for" with their civil agenda. We all have many more important things to deal with everyday than someones made up soap opera agenda.

    Now as for the individuals who are on barbiturates about this current president , it is truly fascinating to see even some of my family and close friends go absolutely insane whenever you bring up his name . Maybe its because he 's not a polished politician or maybe its a class warfare thing,or maybe some want to have a nanny state where everything is taken care of for them and that feels safe, I really don't get it. This country has certainly been in worse shape and even more divided than now and will get thru this time as we have in the past. Until then we have a President who doesn't drink alcohol or smoke, A President who wants no compensation for taking this job, A President who doesn't take perpetual vacations to lavish countries around the world with a huge entourage at taxpayers expense , A president who doesn't care about the word political correctness and a man who is a husband, father, grandfather and an American who believes in LAW and ORDER. There is no civil war on the horizon or anywhere close.

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    Quote Posted by Delight (here)
    This is a short clip of a robot…





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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by Delight (here)
    This is a short clip of a robot which is a very scary picture of a force being developed. Our guns would not make any difference. We cannot expect they will help us create the future we want.

    twitter post
    It's CGI, don't worry! (And so is this fun follow-up )

    https://twitter.com/QTAnon1/status/1188285881209081856
    That is a relief. This one looks real

    This Russian robot shoots guns

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    Quote Posted by Delight (here)
    That is a relief. This one looks real

    This Russian robot shoots guns
    Three plus one. These videos have been around at least since April 25, 2017. Note: there’s repetition in the first 3 vids.

    This Russian robot shoots guns (1:39 minutes)


    Russian Terminator humanoid robot FEDOR learns to shoot with both hand (1:37 minutes)


    Russian Killer Robot FEDOR - Shooting Guns and drive a car (3:29 minutes)

    Posted December 3, 2015

    Robot shield shot 1000 times - keeps goin' (2:06 minutes)

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    Think "force multiplier", but on steroids. That's what "they" want and feel they need.

    They are, in point of fact, so physically and psychically weak, that they continue to persistently steal from us, and then spend for them, billions (if not trillions) of dollars (and other currencies), to buy themselves a sense of security. Many of them, and most of us, are being manipulated into believing technology is the answer for whatever they and we covet. Super soldiers is a concept they take seriously.

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    The MSM narrative suggesting alleged whistleblower Eric Ciaramella's safety is at risk is correct, but not for the purported reasons. It would be devastating and unacceptable if something were to happen to Ciaramella on the eve of or right after the media is forced to reveal his identity.

    The media is now at the cusp of having no other choice but to reveal, or at the very least report on the identity of the ground-zero actor effectively responsible for launching a partisan coup d'état against the sitting POTUS--a development that would not bode well for the impeachment charade if not unravel it entirely.

    For these reasons it is easy to understand why the MSM has blacked out reporting on the whistleblower's identity--that is, up until now. It would be nearly impossible to spin his character as anything other than an anti-Trump operative (Trump allies could even make a convincing case that Ciaramella has a rich and storied history of being an anti-Trump activist); the whistleblower's motives and credibility are highly suspect to say the least and even the staunchest of impeachment advocates would have trouble waging a credible defense of his motives. In short, the media well understands it must keep the identity of its key operative and the very catalyst of the impeachment inquiry itself a secret at all costs, and all under the guise of protecting his safety.

    This narrative, however, is nothing less than a powder keg and a dangerous display of predictive programming.... I don't think we should take what we are seeing unfold lightly. The world already knows the identity of the WB--and especially those who already understand Ciaramella is but a DS operative--so in theory, he and his family are already in danger if we are to subscribe to the logic that outing his identity might put him in harm's way, i.e., subject to the wrath of theoretical anti-establishment vigilantes. In other words, the cat's already out of the bag...

    If and when the media can no longer officially contain its blackout and/or spin Ciaramella's identity in some kind of credible light, however, we may find the political landscape in a much more unstable predicament. In such case it wouldn't be a stretch to see Ciaramella fall victim to some kind of false-flag sacrifice, e.g. in a grand Jeffery-Epstein-like fashion, coupled with a narrative convenient to the concurrent agenda. This would serve both to distract from the tumbling house-of-cards impeachment setup as well as compel it full-fledge forward. A windup deplorable or MAGA fanatic would be the perfect patsy to spark enough outrage and blowback against the sitting POTUS to prompt impeachment proceedings, perhaps even to the point of trying and convicting.

    The problem with this scenario and the potential execution of this DS playbook is, unlike 9/11, there are enough people onto the psyop. Attempting to pull something like this off will not bode well with those who understand what is unfolding in real time--especially those in the military--and speaks directly to the title of this tread...
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    It's being increasingly talked about, re the sham impeachment that's making a joke of the US political process. Go to 5:20 in this video:


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    It's being increasingly talked about, re the sham impeachment that's making a joke of the US political process. Go to 5:20 in this video:


    Mind elaborating on why you believe it is a sham?

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    It's being increasingly talked about, re the sham impeachment that's making a joke of the US political process. Go to 5:20 in this video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1ElivNx5xE
    Mind elaborating on why you believe it is a sham?
    Thanks for the question! I looked up the definition of 'sham', wondering if I'd misused the word. I think I did (I apologize!), because 'sham' is defined as
    something that is not what it purports to be; a spurious imitation; fraud or hoax.
    And it's not that. The current impeachment is real, not a hoax. It's a legitimate legal process. Laws and proper protocol are being followed.

    But it's being utilized as a kind of kangaroo court, based on 'evidence' that's spurious and motivated by nothing but a desire to get rid of the current president by any means fair or foul. There's no statesmanlike desire for the best thing to happen for the nation — apart from the handful of Democrats who've already stated that they will vote against the motion.

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    They are not following the rules of impeachment no sir they are not! In fact there are no facts in the case against Trump at all but just hearsay. I don't expect it to last long in either the house or the senate.
    The genius consistently stands out from the masses in that he unconsciously anticipates truths of which the population as a whole only later becomes conscious! Speech-circa 1937

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    It's being increasingly talked about, re the sham impeachment that's making a joke of the US political process. Go to 5:20 in this video:
    I followed Lisa Haven for a short time. I was never able to listen to a whole video. She talks a lot of fear porn. Lisa has 428,000 subscribers but now she's lucky to get 20,000-30,000 views per video.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    It's being increasingly talked about, re the sham impeachment that's making a joke of the US political process. Go to 5:20 in this video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1ElivNx5xE
    Mind elaborating on why you believe it is a sham?
    Thanks for the question! I looked up the definition of 'sham', wondering if I'd misused the word. I think I did (I apologize!), because 'sham' is defined as
    something that is not what it purports to be; a spurious imitation; fraud or hoax.
    And it's not that. The current impeachment is real, not a hoax. It's a legitimate legal process. Laws and proper protocol are being followed.

    But it's being utilized as a kind of kangaroo court, based on 'evidence' that's spurious and motivated by nothing but a desire to get rid of the current president by any means fair or foul. There's no statesmanlike desire for the best thing to happen for the nation — apart from the handful of Democrats who've already stated that they will vote against the motion.
    Actually, I think I stand corrected (or at least, I'm in good company! ). In this new Dark Journalist video (talking to Catherine Austin Fitts), Daniel Liszt straightaway refers to the impeachment as a sham. (1:10, at the very start of the livestream.) They then discuss the impeachment in quite some depth before moving on to wider issues.

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    Something I'm now noticing about the term "sham", is that it seems almost everyone on tv who is strongly against impeachment, is calling it a sham. Whether or not the term fits is arguable I reckon but, regardless of accuracy it sure seems to be catching on.

    Sham here, sham there, everywhere a sham sham.

    So far as possible civil war, before it was mostly on tv news and social media, but now I'm seeing not just on tv, not just on social media, but in my real life daily surroundings. This crazy impeachment thing is dividing people like I have never seen before, not even close. Like, I one of the most common descriptions of the civil war that has actually already happened, was "it was brother against brother".

    I'm seeing that, to the point that people can't even discuss it any more if there is even so much as a sliver of disagreement between them. Its getting to be the true definition of a purity test. There IS NO middle ground any more, it reminds me of when Bush Jr. decreed "either you're with us, or you're with the terrorists".

    I s*it you not.

    A brother for impeachment, will nastily accuse his brother who doesn't support impeachment, as being a stupid partisan hack. And vice versa, to the point that they have to agree not to talk about it. Except that's quite difficult to do when the this event is literally sucking all the oxygen out of the room pertaining to any other events.

    Things were already tense here politically, and culturally, and this has the potential of pushing things over the edge. Literally, I'm seeing brother against brother, sister against sister, spouse against spouse.

    I'm starting to get worried...

    It's starting to get ugly...

    I'm starting to feel like we're being set up...

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    Quote Posted by Gracy May (here)
    Something I'm now noticing about the term "sham", is that it seems almost everyone on tv who is strongly against impeachment, is calling it a sham. Whether or not the term fits is arguable I reckon but, regardless of accuracy it sure seems to be catching on.

    Sham here, sham there, everywhere a sham sham.

    ..
    This was actually my point. I was surprised to see Bill Ryan using the same terminology that the I see everywhere else.

    Whether or not it is a sham, the fact they keep repeating it should tell you something. The fact that you repeat those words should tell you something more.
    Dont you think it is interesting that Daniel is also parroting the same word? Bill, you said yourself they are following protocol. And for republicans to cry wolf over this makes me vomit Monica Lewinsky( this is honestly why I cant take the right seriously in their critiques because they are such hypocrites).


    Bill, I wasnt going to push back and I was going to let your answer just pass without examination but since you brought it back up.

    Please refer to the evidence, i Dont happen to know which particular thing you are referring to, and then please relate why you feel this evidence is not legit.


    Meanwhile, we passed another defense bill that literally created a new branch of the military industrial complex called space force( which side note dont you think it is interesting that Disney let the troops see the new stars wars early and even gave out CHALLENGE coins? Disney branded star wars challenge coins! I look forward to the Special Batch of Disney War on Terror Challenge Coins!)

    There is so much happening now and yet we have conversations like this one. To me Trump is the sparkly object that is being used to distract while the plan continues to unfold. Notice how Obama policies inherited from Bush are still continuing to this day. No not obamacare. The real policies. Where are the anti war people? Where are the 9-11 truthers? Why dont they hold their NYC native feet to the fire and get him to take a 9-11 stand for a re-investigation?

    If we are caught up in Sham this and Fake News that, we are spinning. Constantly spinning. Yet more defense bills are passed. New Military org created. New frontiers dominated.




    EDIT

    I am watching that interview now and I AM SHOCKED at the double think. Yeah I bet that people are not tuning into politics because their food stamps were cut. WHO CUT THEM? TRUMP! Yes Obama did too!
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    Quote Posted by Praxis (here)
    If we are caught up in Sham this and Fake News that, we are spinning. Constantly spinning.
    I prefer to sit back and watch this mind control experiment play out. Back in the 60s there was a saying, "what if they held a war and no one came?"

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