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    Default Re: Is CIVIL WAR in America coming?

    The Achilles Heel

    Thought bomb - what if all those "illegal aliens" were to learn that if they expatriated, acquired a domicile, and thus became free inhabitants, they would rise to sovereign status?

    As non-citizens, they don't participate in the democracy, so they don't aid any partisan party.
    As non-resident inhabitants, they cannot enroll in SocSec (Nor would they wish to - because they'd lose sovereign status).
    As non-socialists, they are not eligible for taxpayer funded freebies.

    BUT
    They would have all their Creator endowed rights, and the "right" to be in America. They would have the right to life, natural and personal liberty, inherent powers, absolute ownership of private property, and so on.
    In no other country could they rise to such status.
    They would be the social and legal equals of every other monarch on the planet. All other nobility would be a step down from them.
    I would think that they would no longer be any threat to the government insituted to secure THEIR SOVEREIGNTY, from all enemies, foreign or domestic.

    Of course, the Powers That Be might be miffed.

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    It would have to be squatters because if they bought a domicile they would have to pay the taxes to buy it and annual taxes based on tax value to keep from the man from taking it from them and squatters usually have to answer to a court at some point unless they flee. Squatters arrested
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    This interview is really a promo for a book.

    Matt Bracken, ex navy seal and now author of several doomy fiction works, has the doomiest outlook for America of anybody's.

    He says complete collapse is now inevitable and the subject of the book he's nearly completed is about the brutal recovery method for just Texas and Louisiana, based on fuel creation and a ruthless purge of all non local born people. His first few books accurately predicted real turns of events 15 years ahead of time so maybe his new book is worth a read.

    Bracken has only scathing contempt for real world US military capabilities.


    Matt Bracken joins Mike Adams with ominous prediction about the DEFEAT of the US military and the COLLAPSE of the empire
    Feb 1st 2024

    - US civil war risk with guest Matt Bracken. (0:00)

    - Texas-US border crisis and potential collapse of global economy. (1:14)

    - US military capabilities and geopolitical tensions. (10:32)

    - Post-collapse recovery efforts and geopolitical tensions. (14:47)

    - Geopolitics, military technology, and potential conflicts. (19:36)

    - US military obsolescence and profit-driven defense policies. (24:45)

    - Military technology and incentives for engineers. (30:04)

    - US military spending and foreign policy. (34:50)

    - US Empire collapse triggers and geopolitical tensions. (39:45)

    - Post-collapse economics and patriotism in Texas. (48:03)

    Source: https://www.brighteon.com/embed/788181ea-a851-4700-ba1d-32994771181f
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    What is free about 'acquiring property'? Certainly not the property or the perpetual taxes levied against it. Who owns the property before it is acquired? Do we imagine niceand poor little normal Janes and Johns, or to make it current, Mahameds and Prias, exchanging property amongst themselves?

    How civilized. How Democratic.

    Also, let's examine this action of 'to acquire' to see what it truly means.
    For most it means ask the bank to buy it in your name. So 'to acquire' really means get the bank to buy it. Then we plebs have to work 20 - 30 years to pay the bank back with interest, which amounts to buying TWO homes in reality - one for yourself and one for the bank...

    Good deal...for the banks.


    So this vaunted concept of freedom, whether in a parliamentary form or republican form still results in the fact that freedom is not free at all. In fact, freedom is the most expensive state imaginable. The unholy truth is that most people cannot afford 'freedom' of this sort at all.
    'Freedom', like life on this planet, is nothing but an illusion.
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    Default Re: Is CIVIL WAR in America coming?

    Quote Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
    ...
    Also, let's examine this action of 'to acquire' to see what it truly means.
    For most it means ask the bank to buy it in your name. So 'to acquire' really means get the bank to buy it. Then we plebs have to work 20 - 30 years to pay the bank back with interest, which amounts to buying TWO homes in reality - one for yourself and one for the bank...

    Good deal...for the banks.
    ...

    and if Mohamed or Prias can't afford to pay the installments anymore for whatever reason, they will be toasted losing it all. So banks can go to hell, I would rather become a squatter than a mortgagor, the truth of the matter is many squatters start to pay taxes after several years and become the "owner" of the land, it works mainly for land and some squatters live their entire life without paying a single penny in taxes, so no mortgage in the process either way. But most people see it as politically incorrect HAHA

    De facto freedom is illusion.


    I say that openly for many years now, grab your piece of public land from your beloved government, if they ever catch you, then go through the process of "legalizing" it, in most cases if one is far away from big centers nobody will come to bother.
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    Default Re: Is CIVIL WAR in America coming?

    apologies if covered elsewhere, but this is a trailer for an upcoming movie
    about a potential civil war in the usa...



    Got me thinking (perhaps too much, but curopus what you think...)

    At its core, does this movie (out April 24), raise thought-provoking questions about the relationship between art and reality? In a time when political tensions are running high and social divisions seem deeper than ever, will this film challenge audiences and viewers to consider the ways in which art can both reflect and influence the world around us?

    Is it sewing a seed that many are thinking, or is it just another big budget action flick popcorn fest?

    Does the portrayal of a modern civil war on screen serve as a cautionary tale, a mirror held up to our society's flaws and vulnerabilities? Or does it risk romanticising violence and perpetuating harmful stereotypes, narratives and divisions?

    Perhaps just another action film, but is the role of Hollywood attempting to shape public perception and discourse? In an era dominated by blockbuster spectacles and glossy entertainment, will this movie offer a stark contrast by presenting a gritty, morally complex exploration of a timely and urgent subject matter and to serve as a warning to all?

    Will it prompt audiences to critically examine the ways in which the media can manipulate, distort, or sensationalise reality for the sake of entertainment or profit, and what the potential consequences of such manipulation can have on public opinion and the collective consciousness, or am I just the only one wrongly looking at this?

    Will viewers get drawn into the gripping narrative of a "fictional" modern day civil war and thus, are compelled to confront uncomfortable truths about the fragility of democracy, the power of propaganda, and the inherent human capacity for both empathy and cruelty?

    I'm unsure, but I feel it might just challenge us all to reflect on our own roles as citizens, consumers, and participants in the ongoing "drama" of society, and to consider the responsibilities that come with wielding the power of storytelling in an increasingly fractured world (and more so now with the use of Deep fake ai and cgi)

    Then again, should I just wait for its release on Netflix and switch off, and allow it to enterdrain my brain for a couple of hours?


    Curious to your take.

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    ...and if Mohamed or Prias can't afford to pay the installments anymore for whatever reason, they will be toasted losing it all. So banks can go to hell, I would rather become a squatter than a mortgagor


    Sharia law forbids mortgage and the Quran recommends debt forgiveness.

    Mortgage was certainly a practice the American Revolution and Jeffersonian policy were vehemently against. Nevertheless, in the 1800s, it turned into a program of acquiring farm land, transferring it from the little people to the banks.

    Nothing beneficial can come from non-productive dampers on one's home or labor.

    Something probably is useful about the Soviet system that would guarantee you a small, cheap apartment. If you have the ambition for something more then go for it, but there is no excuse to drive everyone into legions of homelessness just "because".


    The English have learned to talk like American dictators:


    Victory in the war on inflation will require British workers to accept lower pay deals and companies to rein in their profits, a senior Bank of England policymaker announced.



    First of all quit announcing a war on everything. It is fantasy, like a Zionist ground assault with no objectives. You can't attack an abstract. This is plain stupid.

    The rest of the article is unnecessary, it is a set of excuses about why the Bank of England, nominally in control of everything that has ever been seen by the Hubble telescope, has no difficulty with you poor and the government giving your future to the immediate detriment of Ukraine and Israel.


    Here, no, I would still say no Civil War is possible, because that would mean some faction is fighting to gain control of the government. What we would have is the opposite, to get rid of it. In fact, we have already tried this one time, and what did we get, more or less a genocide. Just look at some of the things the U. S. Army did where it claimed the people were its own subjects. That is what dragged us into the chains of subjugation.

    Or, the perpetual debt started with this National Bank grew to become friends with the Big Brother Bank of England.

    To exalt some other abstract like "freedom" while proceeding in this manner is just a ruse. Anything to keep you off of fundamentals like these assumed notions that "have to be this way" most definitely do not.

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