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    At 0:49, we begin with a video excerpt, where trump states "...it's the agenda of the American people."

    I said, out loud to my monitor, "No it isn't."

    That's as far as I have gotten.

    A large, (10 year) study completed in 2014 sought to find out how much influence the US citizens (US politicians refer to us as "Americans") have on domestic and foreign policy in the US. The answer was zero. Zero influence, other than the "voice" granted to billionaires. That study is informally now referred to as the "Princeton Report.*"

    So, no matter what trump followed this with, it was not true, it could not be true. The US government doesn't know and doesn't care what its citizens think or feel. Let me add that this is true not just while trump is sitting in the big chair in the oval office, it was just as true with obama, bush, clinton, bush, ... and all the way back to george washington. The oligarchs used to put themselves in office; now they use proxies.


    *[A 'Startpage' search (they use google's search engine) just now shows me that google has done some serious work in scrubbing results that point to "Princeton study" - last time I searched there were at least a dozen pages with feature stories using the search phrase "princeton study" or "princeton report" and not the gigantic title "Testing Theories of American Politics: Elites, Interest Groups, and Average Citizens." Wow, the articles google does point to all seem to make the glaring mistake of saying something like, "America is no longer a democracy" - when we know that the USA is a constitutional republic, and never was a democracy. So, rather than leave you with the real message, (that US citizens have zero influence over foreign or domestic policy in the US), those that have been conditioned to be triggered by the word "democracy" and/or those who know the actual form of government used in the US will likely leave those sites with a deflected, tangential at best, message. Well played, google-cia, well played.]


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    Socialism is the totalitarian tip toe toward the new world order

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    Quote Posted by Savannah (here)
    Socialism is the totalitarian tip toe toward the new world order
    Thanks Savannah, Target and Norman. I appreciate the input. I figure the question is interesting enough to have its own topic, (tangential in this topic) so I just started a new topic. Maybe you could all also post your answers in that new thread.


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    Quote Posted by aKnightThatSaysNi (here)
    I have not seen that many Democrats in white since they started the Klan
    My Boston-area friends would say, "wicked funny!" It is.


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