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    Default Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Exposes The Dark Side Of Politics In 5 Incredible Minutes

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    Quote Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
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    I'm gonna check out of this discussion. If the thread is about things AOC has said,,,, then it will become quite impossible to not point and laugh. I took the time to read the Green New Deal. (Raspberry)

    She proposes a plan that (admittedly) will have little effect in by 2050,,, to fix a problem that (admittedly)will DESTROY us within a span of TWELVE years...

    Again,, if this thread is about what AOC "ACTUALLY SAYS",,, then there WILL BE finger pointing and carrying on.

    I would be ALL FOR sending her to MARS, to deal with the OBVIOUS climate change there...
    Obviously, an "AO Cortez's idiotic statements" or "The Green New Deal is crap", and other variants would be hot topics at Avalon.

    Quote "Again,, if this thread is about what AOC "ACTUALLY SAYS",,,"
    But the thread title, the opening post, and the video in the opening post are all about exposing the dark side of politics, with specific types of governmental corruption highlighted. It's a good topic, I think, but even if I didn't think so, it's still the topic that was posted.

    The Avalon mods routinely split a topic, like this current thread, when it becomes obvious that there is a fork in the road resulting in 2 different topics and not just different sides to a topic. This topic has split into
    "AOC is a moron"
    and
    "Exposing the Dark Side of Politics"

    They are both valid topics.

    Someone should start a topic on the Green New Deal itself, and examine it, too. Maybe there is one really intelligent idea in the GND surrounded by 500 bad ideas - I don't know, I don't read partisan propaganda until it seems like it might actually be important to do so. So, I'd be a poor choice to start that thread.

    I have personally tried* not to get sucked-in to what is referred to as "identity politics", for several reasons, including that I believe that at least 90% and probably closer to 100% of politicians in the US government - elected and appointed positions - are agents of Empire. So, all I would do is rail at ALL of them, Ds and Rs. Plus, they are all temporary.

    After taking 3 steps back and trying hard to focus simply on the issues and policies and laws rather than the people/personalities/celebrities - which made a lot of sense to me because the people come and go but the policies and laws (such as the 'Patriot Act') are in place until overturned or modified - I realized that for me, even that isn't far enough back in the flow chart. I'm focused on how to wipe the chessboard clean of Empire's agents and Empire's mechanisms of control, and to not just allow the same powerful misanthropes to regain power. I encourage Avalon members to create topics about the personalities that they feel need public dissection. I encourage Avalon members to create topics about the issues that they feel need public dissection.


    *(and I failed miserably when it came to hillary, bernie, mccain, haley, trump, netanyahu, bolton, etc. I get it - when the personalities are making evil policies and laws, it's near impossible to ignore them or not be triggered by them. I have blasted all of these personalities elsewhere, and I see Avalon as a place for more in-depth discussion than drive-by memes - which is how places like faceboog operate.)
    I love your eternal optimism Dennis.

    I love that after all your effort and thougtfulness what you get in return is stuff like this

    "Ahem..

    Again, if this thread is about "remarks made by a person... etc.." AND i can't point and laugh at "the stupidest meatsuit ever" then I have to check out.
    "

    Not worth engaging.

    Too many proud boys on this website now
    It's gonna take much more than optimism to clear a path for the antics that AOC is pulling. I'm being obtuse on purpose. Dennis knows that.

    Huffing and puffing about SUBSTANCE in a discussion about AOC seems a bit ironic...

    If there is a sacred cow that I don't know about, feel free to share. I'm all ears.

    Things have gone terribly wrong here.... See ya in another couple of years, Avalon.

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    Default Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Exposes The Dark Side Of Politics In 5 Incredible Minutes

    Hi, Folks: this is my first visit to this thread. (Do please note: like quite a few non-Americans in the community here, I don't feel I really know enough in depth about American politics to contribute meaningfully or helpfully.)

    But as a librarian, and a librarian only, I wanted to find and offer the YT version of the original video that was embedded in the Huffpost article in post#1. That means it can be easily downloaded for reference, as I often do myself. Here it is:


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    Default Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Exposes The Dark Side Of Politics In 5 Incredible Minutes

    Ahh, umm...

    I guess if one doesn't understand the "fraternity like" structure of the house of representatives, then these actions don't seem so strange.

    they are though.



    She seems to be openly trying to influence the entirety of the elected (D) congressional representatives?

    how many people actually elected her (literally 15,897 people......)
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    Default Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Exposes The Dark Side Of Politics In 5 Incredible Minutes

    Quote Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
    Respectfully, Voice, I'm not going to take the time to reply to your replies. Your replies show me you are paying no attention to the substance of what I have written. You sidestepped every point I made, throw in another jab that you think I'm socialist, and offer strawman points (such as levying 70% tax on small business, an utterly ridiculous notion.) This isn't a conversation. You have to use ears, not just a Voice, to have a conversation.
    You say I'm not taking the time to pay attention and reply to your posts, but at least I replied. Backing out of the conversation after I went point-by-point through yours doesn't seem to be in the spirit of an exchange of ideas. If I don't understand what you posted, then I wonder how difficult it would be to correct a misunderstanding.

    I assume you are socialist because you clearly appear to defend socialism in various threads. You don't have to admit anything. I simply make very basic observations, such as the fact that the wealthiest people don't pay taxes anyway.

    And that is the heart of the problem with your philosophy: You think that a 70% tax rate will hurt people like the Rockefellers and Rothschilds when high tax rates have clearly never hurt them as much as they have hurt the middle classes.


    Check out how many American voters are "comfortable" with socialism in this recent MSM poll:

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    Default Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Exposes The Dark Side Of Politics In 5 Incredible Minutes

    Well, this might have been a huge flash in the pan eh?


    Is this blow back from AOC challenging the established Dem's??




    Tax on wallstreet transactions.... well Im not against it, but who it comes from may be damaging the message.



    Some hypocrisy connected to taxes. some "the environment".... this girl has no finesse, she's not being different than most politicians, just a bit more sloppy.
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    Default Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Exposes The Dark Side Of Politics In 5 Incredible Minutes

    Thanks TargeT, here is some more that falls into your above post.

    BREAKING: @AOC & her chief of staff are looking at possible serious prison sentences over major violations in election law. Coordinating with a PAC that supports you in an election is illegal. AOC ran the PAC, which is worse than coordinating with a PAC. AOC denies violations.
    FEC Complaint: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Aide Hid $1 Million


    Some of us were so taken aback by the sheer lack of knowledge, experience, and common sense—not to mention the unabashed radical platform of Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez—that we thought she must be a plant by the good guys. Comedic sensationalism to make a point in the theatre of the absurd.

    It’s looking like we misjudged the script. She was a plant all right—by the left, if this video can be believed. How predictable.

    She answered a “casting call”. We also saw an ad on Craig’s List for Ruth Bader Ginsburg look-alikes followed by published footage of a marvelous stand-in walking around in her clothes but with head held high—which we know Ruth could physically no longer do.

    (BTW, Google has buried that story so it doesn’t come up in the searches—like every other relevant piece of information we might want to know. Only propaganda and approved content get top billing now.)

    The deep state operatives don’t even try to hide their machinations any longer because they have nothing left to lose. They’re going to use their trusty old formulaic script yet again, no matter how outrageous.

    Despite the motives, education or background of a candidate, we know what can be accomplished with deep state backing. They soundly back every major player and false flag perpetrator all the way with funding, coaching, and a personalized script. Props are plentiful and weapons, drugs, or friendly voting machines supplied where required.

    Did you think QAnon was being flippant when he suggested we are watching a movie? Ha! No truer words were ever written.

    It’s what they’ve always done but now we’re onto them. In the past it’s all been scripted, planned, carefully orchestrated, but the actors aren’t the stars they believe they are. They will be famous, however. INfamous.

    There weren’t any sane writers left when this AOC screenplay came out so they settled for the “B” route. “Green New Deal”? Eliminating air travel? Trains to Hawai’i? Even Hollywood special effects can’t make these pipe dreams real. These people live in a dream world. They’re lunatics.

    The control freaks have truly lost it and the absurdity can’t help but wake people up to the deception.

    Yes, the democrat party is going down. Get your popcorn and keep watching. AOC will be a box office flop—no sequels, please. ~ BP

    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez was appointed – not elected
    AOC’s arrogance implies an invisible hand

    This creature came from nowhere and speaks arrogantly of being the new boss in the Democrat Party, telling even Joe Lieberman that his time is past. Where does her cockiness come from? The following video will start to unmask AOC and her invisible backers.


    Don’t look at her stupidity and take her as being inconsequential. That is the mistake America made with another blank slate named Obama.

    The Marxism this creature is forcing into the American system is as deadly as a rattlesnake. We need to unmask her and her backers at every opportunity. We need to put a spotlight on her. Evil hates light because light reveals the truth.
    Let the unmasking begin!

    Here’s Josh Bernstein’s view:
    FRAUDS EXPOSED: AOC found thru Casting Call! 5 Dems recruited-Political equivalent of Spice Girls!!!

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    Did you know that when she saw that Amazon had a river named after it , is wanted Google to have one too.
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    Default Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Exposes The Dark Side Of Politics In 5 Incredible Minutes

    more on the "casting couch" issue

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    Target, I wanted to thank you for the above video "The Brains Behind AOC". I had no idea there were casting calls for democratic congressmen and women and that AOC was chosen to be a mouthpiece for a certain agenda.

    The presentation on the video was excellent.

    At this point, almost everything I see happening is sending us down a slippery slope. The slope of politics is covered in ice and is going downhill very quickly. What a day and age.
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    Default Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Exposes The Dark Side Of Politics In 5 Incredible Minutes

    And now the other “sister in arms”, Ilhan Omar.
    Who or what is she really?

    Glenn Beck takes a closer look at Representative Omar, accusations made against her and the relationship between CAIR and Hamas.



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    Default Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Exposes The Dark Side Of Politics In 5 Incredible Minutes

    What about the dark side of this insane commie puppet?! Look into who backs her and why she came out of nowhere.
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    Default Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Exposes The Dark Side Of Politics In 5 Incredible Minutes

    Remember as Avalonians, one of the great blessings and curses of this site is that every day is a Red Pill.

    Ocasio-Cortez isn’t her own woman, nor are the Justice Democrats for Whom she is a Front. There are wealthy and interconnected Oligarchs behind this entire effort, and party and ideological labels are the least of their concerns.

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    Default Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Exposes The Dark Side Of Politics In 5 Incredible Minutes

    Part II: The Brains Behind AOC (20 minutes)

    Quote Posted by TargeT (here)
    more on the "casting couch" issue


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    Oh man... This has me crying; I definitely lost the YLYL game.


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    Quote Posted by section9 (here)
    Remember as Avalonians, one of the great blessings and curses of this site is that every day is a Red Pill.

    Ocasio-Cortez isn’t her own woman, nor are the Justice Democrats for Whom she is a Front. There are wealthy and interconnected Oligarchs behind this entire effort, and party and ideological labels are the least of their concerns.
    The same wealthy oligarchs who don't pay any taxes, but want to force outrageous tax rates on everyone else. You know, the champions of the middle class.


    After over 80 years now of heavy indoctrination campaigns, I'm surprised that only about a quarter of the country has taken the bait, especially considering things like this:

    Quote Karl Marx is the most assigned economist in U.S. college classes

    ’Communist Manifesto’ appears in more than 3,000 college course syllabi, researchers find

    More than 25 years after the fall of the Berlin Wall, the collapse of the Soviet Union and the onset of market-economy practices in China, “The Communist Manifesto” still ranks among the three most frequently assigned texts at American universities.

    That’s according to data from Open Syllabus Project, which tracks books and other works assigned to students in more than 1 million syllabi.
    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/co...ege-2016-01-27

    For a bit of biographical info, Karl Marx, the legend, could never even support himself financially (which made him a brilliant economist), lived off of the financial support of a wealthy industrialist, ruthlessly screwed over his own parents, and to top off his caricature-like existence, had some disease that caused painful warts all over his body. Just painting a picture here. A hero to millions.




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    Quote Posted by TargeT (here)
    This woman is insane... how did she get elected?
    That is a very good question. I didn't vote for her. She may of slipped through the cracks. This woman is a real piece if sh.. t IMO.
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