Posted by Dennis Leahy
(here)
Posted by Jake
(here)
I'm gonna check out of this discussion. If the thread is about things AOC has said,,,, then it will become quite impossible to not point and laugh. I took the time to read the Green New Deal. (Raspberry)
She proposes a plan that (admittedly) will have little effect in by 2050,,, to fix a problem that (admittedly)will DESTROY us within a span of TWELVE years...
Again,, if this thread is about what AOC "ACTUALLY SAYS",,, then there WILL BE finger pointing and carrying on.
I would be ALL FOR sending her to MARS, to deal with the OBVIOUS climate change there...
Obviously, an "AO Cortez's idiotic statements" or "The Green New Deal is crap", and other variants would be hot topics at Avalon.
"Again,, if this thread is about what AOC "ACTUALLY SAYS",,,"
But the thread title, the opening post, and the video in the opening post are all about exposing the dark side of politics, with specific types of governmental corruption highlighted. It's a good topic, I think, but even if I didn't think so, it's still the topic that was posted.
The Avalon mods routinely split a topic, like this current thread, when it becomes obvious that there is a fork in the road resulting in 2 different topics and not just different sides to a topic. This topic has split into
"AOC is a moron"
and
"Exposing the Dark Side of Politics"
They are both valid topics.
Someone should start a topic on the Green New Deal itself, and examine it, too. Maybe there is one really intelligent idea in the GND surrounded by 500 bad ideas - I don't know, I don't read partisan propaganda until it seems like it might actually be important to do so. So, I'd be a poor choice to start that thread.
I have personally tried* not to get sucked-in to what is referred to as "identity politics", for several reasons, including that I believe that at least 90% and probably closer to 100% of politicians in the US government - elected and appointed positions - are agents of Empire. So, all I would do is rail at ALL of them, Ds and Rs. Plus, they are all temporary.
After taking 3 steps back and trying hard to focus simply on the issues and policies and laws rather than the people/personalities/celebrities - which made a lot of sense to me because the people come and go but the policies and laws (such as the 'Patriot Act') are in place until overturned or modified - I realized that for me, even that isn't far enough back in the flow chart. I'm focused on how to wipe the chessboard clean of Empire's agents and Empire's mechanisms of control, and to not just allow the same powerful misanthropes to regain power. I encourage Avalon members to create topics about the
personalities that they feel need public dissection. I encourage Avalon members to create topics about the
issues that they feel need public dissection.
*(and I failed miserably when it came to hillary, bernie, mccain, haley, trump, netanyahu, bolton, etc. I get it - when the personalities are making evil policies and laws, it's near impossible to ignore them or not be triggered by them. I have blasted all of these personalities elsewhere, and I see Avalon as a place for more in-depth discussion than drive-by memes - which is how places like faceboog operate.)