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    Default Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Exposes The Dark Side Of Politics In 5 Incredible Minutes

    Quote Posted by Praxis (here)
    Just so yall dont have to ride that link, give MR Gray that Adclick revenue and want to stay within the forum to you know actually read post on the forum . . .
    I didn't see any ads.

    I read your post and thought ",,,,, what an asshole".


    even if he did have adds, people's work is worth nothing to you? one click is too much to give someone else? You seem to be a very selfish/hateful person by this post; do you feel that is an accurate description? Did this post match your morals and self image?
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    Default Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Exposes The Dark Side Of Politics In 5 Incredible Minutes

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    Did this post match your morals and self image?
    Just a little food for thought here:

    I may be wrong, but every post I see by Mgray is a simple one sentence statement followed by a "See my views HERE". Then you have to click on his website link to see what he has to say. (Or not). There's never any discussion, or back and forth banter. He never engages anybody here on the forum itself. He never has anything to say anywhere on this forum other than --- "See my views HERE". (At least that's all I see. Maybe I'm wrong).

    I wouldn't mind if he was actually discussing various topics on various different threads and then occasionally saying something like "I have more to say on this topic on my website HERE". But that doesn't seem to be the case.

    Am I wrong? Has anybody actually engaged in any discussion with Mgray here on the forum? Is he an actual contributing member on different threads? If so, I stand corrected. But from what I see, his only purpose here on P.A. is to get people to click on his website. I'm not against people making money with their website, and I have no idea if he does get money from his website or not. And if you want to click on his website, then fine. Have at it.

    But I for one, would like to read what he has to say without having to click on another source. I would like to see him join our 'roundtable discussion' in the first person and not just a "See my views HERE".

    Again, maybe I'm wrong, and if so, I apologize. But it seems to be a one way street with Mgray. .........

    So maybe it doesn't bother some people that he doesn't join in the conversation. Maybe it doesn't bother some people to have to go to his website just to see what he has to say. And to some it may seem like a ticky-tack thing to complain about it. But, you know what, ...... don't be too quick to condemn those of us that think that maybe, just maybe, Mgray is using this forum to his advantage. Again, maybe I'm wrong. I apologize if I am.

    Food for thought.
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    Default Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Exposes The Dark Side Of Politics In 5 Incredible Minutes

    She just strikes me as a graduate from Tavistock.

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    Quote Posted by TargeT (here)
    Did this post match your morals and self image?
    Just a little food for thought here:

    I may be wrong, but every post I see by Mgray is a simple one sentence statement followed by a "See my views HERE". Then you have to click on his website link to see what he has to say. (Or not). There's never any discussion, or back and forth banter. He never engages anybody here on the forum itself. He never has anything to say anywhere on this forum other than --- "See my views HERE". (At least that's all I see. Maybe I'm wrong).

    I wouldn't mind if he was actually discussing various topics on various different threads and then occasionally saying something like "I have more to say on this topic on my website HERE". But that doesn't seem to be the case.

    Am I wrong? Has anybody actually engaged in any discussion with Mgray here on the forum? Is he an actual contributing member on different threads? If so, I stand corrected. But from what I see, his only purpose here on P.A. is to get people to click on his website. I'm not against people making money with their website, and I have no idea if he does get money from his website or not. And if you want to click on his website, then fine. Have at it.

    But I for one, would like to read what he has to say without having to click on another source. I would like to see him join our 'roundtable discussion' in the first person and not just a "See my views HERE".

    Again, maybe I'm wrong, and if so, I apologize. But it seems to be a one way street with Mgray. .........

    So maybe it doesn't bother some people that he doesn't join in the conversation. Maybe it doesn't bother some people to have to go to his website just to see what he has to say. And to some it may seem like a ticky-tack thing to complain about it. But, you know what, ...... don't be too quick to condemn those of us that think that maybe, just maybe, Mgray is using this forum to his advantage. Again, maybe I'm wrong. I apologize if I am.

    Food for thought.
    This occurred to me also. For example, on another forum where I moderate you cannot just "link and run" like this. You have to engage and discuss what is there and why it is relevant. To link drop and dart is a warning and point deduct by the mods for doing what Mr. Gray does. Just saying. EDIT: from the rules on my other forum:
    Defend your position - If you post an article or make a statement, back it up with some commentary on what brought you to that. This isn't the Drudge Report. Posting a link or complete article without bothering to state your own position and why you think it is right or wrong will be viewed as a "link and run" and you'll get dinged for failing to follow the forum rules.
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    Default Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Exposes The Dark Side Of Politics In 5 Incredible Minutes

    Quote Posted by Orph (here)
    I wouldn't mind if he was actually discussing various topics on various different threads and then occasionally saying something like "I have more to say on this topic on my website HERE". But that doesn't seem to be the case.
    to some extent I agree... however I also was (briefly) a content creator, have you ever done that?

    Do you know the time it takes, the research, the dedication?

    I quit because it took far longer to produce content than it seemed like it was worth.

    I even did it for my own business for a while (to the same results, even with almost a millions views)

    I will support anyone who actually creates content, in any form... because it is a rare thing, not many people step up to the plate and actually contribute... I know I do not anymore.


    Am I wrong?


    what do you support?
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    Default Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Exposes The Dark Side Of Politics In 5 Incredible Minutes

    I apologize for offending anyone here. It was not my intention. I do contribute in other ways to PA with comments and likes and will continue to do so. Thank you TargeT.

    Again my apologies.
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    I apologize for offending anyone here. It was not my intention. I do contribute in other ways to PA with comments and likes and will continue to do so. Thank you TargeT.

    Again my apologies.
    Please don't think that you've offended me. I just say the same thought occurs to me because, well, because on the other forum I'd be expected to you know, say something to you so it's crossed my mind each time I saw how you engaged. I like your input and I read your links but I'm not offended about it just trying to say in defense of the others also saying something it did occur to me as well that you could engage the forum here more that was all. No apology necessary and I hope there are no hard feelings.
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    Quote Posted by TargeT (here)
    Did this post match your morals and self image?
    Just a little food for thought here:

    I may be wrong, but every post I see by Mgray is a simple one sentence statement followed by a "See my views HERE". Then you have to click on his website link to see what he has to say. (Or not). There's never any discussion, or back and forth banter. He never engages anybody here on the forum itself. He never has anything to say anywhere on this forum other than --- "See my views HERE". (At least that's all I see. Maybe I'm wrong).

    I wouldn't mind if he was actually discussing various topics on various different threads and then occasionally saying something like "I have more to say on this topic on my website HERE". But that doesn't seem to be the case.

    Am I wrong? Has anybody actually engaged in any discussion with Mgray here on the forum? Is he an actual contributing member on different threads? If so, I stand corrected. But from what I see, his only purpose here on P.A. is to get people to click on his website. I'm not against people making money with their website, and I have no idea if he does get money from his website or not. And if you want to click on his website, then fine. Have at it.

    But I for one, would like to read what he has to say without having to click on another source. I would like to see him join our 'roundtable discussion' in the first person and not just a "See my views HERE".

    Again, maybe I'm wrong, and if so, I apologize. But it seems to be a one way street with Mgray. .........

    So maybe it doesn't bother some people that he doesn't join in the conversation. Maybe it doesn't bother some people to have to go to his website just to see what he has to say. And to some it may seem like a ticky-tack thing to complain about it. But, you know what, ...... don't be too quick to condemn those of us that think that maybe, just maybe, Mgray is using this forum to his advantage. Again, maybe I'm wrong. I apologize if I am.

    Food for thought.
    Yes he does interact with some of the threads and sometimes not post the style you mentioned: One sentence ending with a link. But you are right, it is mainly this one sentence link to blog posts which defeat the purpose of forum if I have to click through to another site when i want to read his post. But he is MAGA bro and Paul is too so they let it slide. Note how Paul likes most of his posts.

    He has sent me a PM directly the first time I did this and told me directly that he does it so he can get money from his blog. I will screen shot this as I still have it if you do not believe me.

    So regardless of what TargeT says, he is doing this for money.

    But the main reason I feel so strongly about this is because at one point on his blog he posted about how he thinks Gauntanamo Bay is good and should be used against US Citizens.

    https://grayseconomy.com/2018/08/28/...unals-in-2019/

    So he is openly support of Military Tribunals of American Citizens. That is terrifying. Folllowed up by

    https://grayseconomy.com/2018/08/31/...rks-and-gitmo/

    Where people accused of sedition and or treason will be sent there. He clearly does not believe in due process and or the constitution as you can read by his own words.

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    Default Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Exposes The Dark Side Of Politics In 5 Incredible Minutes

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    He has sent me a PM directly...
    ...I will screen shot this as I still have it if you do not believe me.
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    Default Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Exposes The Dark Side Of Politics In 5 Incredible Minutes

    Mgray, thank you for reading my post. Please know I meant no harm. I have gone to your website several times. You are a very good writer and have many thought provoking things to say. Good stuff there.

    May I make a suggestion? Start your own thread and call it "Mgray's World" or some such. That will be your thread. A place where you can post what your subject is for that day and then provide the link. (If that is allowed). Anyway, I hope we can all come to some type of agreement here.
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    Quote Posted by section9 (here)
    She just strikes me as a graduate from Tavistock.
    LMAO, that was funny....thanks for that, touche.

    Edit to Add: Or maybe she's Tavistock's wet dream?
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    Quote Posted by Praxis (here)
    So regardless of what TargeT says, he is doing this for money.
    What did I say again? check your confirmation bias... I said nothing about money... I did, however; infer that making money off content creation is something I support.



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    But the main reason I feel so strongly about this is because at one point on his blog he posted about how he thinks Gauntanamo Bay is good and should be used against US Citizens.

    https://grayseconomy.com/2018/08/28/...unals-in-2019/

    So he is openly support of Military Tribunals of American Citizens. That is terrifying. Folllowed up by

    https://grayseconomy.com/2018/08/31/...rks-and-gitmo/

    Where people accused of sedition and or treason will be sent there. He clearly does not believe in due process and or the constitution as you can read by his own words.
    First off... what is a tribunal to you?

    Quote A tribunal, generally, is any person or institution with authority to judge, adjudicate on, or determine claims or disputes—whether or not it is called a tribunal in its title.[1] For example, an advocate who appears before a court with a single judge could describe that judge as 'their tribunal'. Many governmental bodies that are titled 'tribunals' are so described to emphasize that they are not courts of normal jurisdiction. For example, the International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda is a body specially constituted under international law; in Great Britain, employment tribunals are bodies set up to hear specific employment disputes. In many (but not all) cases, the word tribunal implies a judicial (or quasi-judicial) body with a lesser degree of formality than a court, to which the normal rules of evidence and procedure may not apply, and whose presiding officers are frequently neither judges nor magistrates. Private judicial bodies are also often styled 'tribunals'
    So your distracting and derailing this thread because you have a vendetta against him because he believes something you do not?

    how is this not problematic to you?


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    Default Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Exposes The Dark Side Of Politics In 5 Incredible Minutes

    I would prefer this thread get back to AOC and her most recent comment equating the border wall to the Berlin Wall.
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    Default Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Exposes The Dark Side Of Politics In 5 Incredible Minutes

    AOC thinks that New York was going to "give" 3 billion dollars to Amazon??? does she not know what a tax incentive is??

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    Default Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Exposes The Dark Side Of Politics In 5 Incredible Minutes

    Sarah Palin's clone.
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    I love this youtube channel... hahaha

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    Default Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Exposes The Dark Side Of Politics In 5 Incredible Minutes

    Fun fact AOC was born on Friday, October 13, 1989 (Black Friday)!

    The Friday the 13th mini-crash was a stock market crash that occurred on Friday, October 13, 1989. The crash - referred to by some as "Black Friday"

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    Quote Posted by waree (here)
    Fun fact AOC was born on Friday, October 13, 1989 (Black Friday)!

    The Friday the 13th mini-crash was a stock market crash that occurred on Friday, October 13, 1989. The crash - referred to by some as "Black Friday"
    Perhaps that’s why she dislikes capitalism. Born under the sign of bearish crash. Lol
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    Exactly! What a coincidence!?!

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    I'm excited to know who wins the bashing contest,

    Hey guys keep going the stakes are high

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