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    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    Quote Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
    These mobsters have been coveting, and scheming towards, Venezuela's oil, the largest reserve of oil known in the world.
    Ron Paul, on The Liberty Report, agrees.

    The US Neocons and oil interests (rhymes with Rockefeller) are hell bent on destroying the arrangements that Venezuela has made with China and Russia to trade Venezuela's oil for investment in Venezuela's economy and petro industry, and instead insuring that US Petro companies have that business.

    [utube video was here]

    So ... it seems to me:
    • that Chavez was notoriously non-compliant with the American imperialists,
    • that covert US Neocon operators killed Chavez,
    • that Maduro is a populist, sometimes thuggish, follow on to Chavez,
    • that Maduro (and perhaps Chavez earlier?) had been developing stronger connections with China and Russia,
    • that the US had been actively working behind the scenes to destroy the economy of Venezuela,
    • that many Venezuelans really and legitimately want Maduro out of there, and
    • that the US Neocons are energizing and leveraging this crisis in Venezuela to regain control over it.

    We're seeing the culmination of a many year effort by US Neocons to rape and pillage yet another nation.
    (highlight emphasis on "many" and "Neocons" are mine)

    on "many":
    I'd say, [*]that some financially middle and upper class Venezuelans really and legitimately want Maduro out of there
    (It makes logical sense: the people that do not need social services don't care about social services, or the Venezuelan oil revenue that is the source of those services. For them, their lives have been disrupted, they don't care who is really creating violence and just want the violence to end. The easiest thing for these financial classes to do is to pay the bosses of the local thugs to stop creating the scripted part of the violence: USA, INC. and its CIA. So, they welcome a "soft" takeover of Venezuela by the USA, and restoration of the pre-Chavez status quo.

    It also makes sense that the word "some" is a much more honest representation than "many." for exactly the same reason that the Ruling Class Globalists have bought - taken control of - mass media: those with more money have exponentially amplified voices. I'm sure there really is a group of middle and upper financial class Venezuelans who were content with the pre-Chavez status quo, and they have used their means to greatly amplify their voices. I'll bet Western corporate media also logs EVERY negative comment, like "the violence must stop!" as an integer added to the "wants Maduro ousted" sum.)


    on "Neocons":
    Don't leave out the other half of the snake, the neoliberals. Or, is 'neocon' versus 'neoliberal' more of just a variation of strategy toward the same duopoly-globalist agenda, rather than an actual different political ideology? If we can really divide the factions of the US-based globalists into 2 piles, the other stinking heap would be the neoliberals, which maybe better describes the clintons and obama sect. Duopoly-D leaders pelosi and schumer, for example, act as old-school neocons, so are they now neocons or are they globalist-aligned duopoly members labeled as 'neoliberals', using formerly neocon tactics? My hunch is it is just a semantics word game, and just more of the kabuki theater of the pretense of the phony dichotomy within the duopoly. It is the duopoly (in US politics) that are the pampered handmaidens of Empire - they are all Globalist agents.

    Anyway, I just didn't want the faction of duopoly labeled as "neoliberals' to avoid our microscope and our flyswatter. All of the Globalists, neocon and neoliberal in lockstep, are after Venezuela's oil and to undermine or crush nascent socialism/anti-globalism. Yes, socialism is anti-globalism, so the Globalists have to stamp it out.


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    Default Re: Turmoil in Venezuela

    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    Quote Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
    These mobsters have been coveting, and scheming towards, Venezuela's oil, the largest reserve of oil known in the world.
    Ron Paul, on The Liberty Report, agrees.
    ...
    We're seeing the culmination of a many year effort by US Neocons to rape and pillage yet another nation.
    This Collective Evolution article comes to the same conclusion, with some more history and detail: Globalists Want Venezuela As The Next Jewel In Their Crown.

    Here are some excerpts from this article:

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    Globalists Want Venezuela As The Next Jewel In Their Crown

    Published January 30, 2019, By Richard Enos, Staff Writer

    In Brief
    The Facts: Juan Guaidó, the 35-year-old leader of Venezuela’s opposition-controlled national assembly, recently declared himself president of Venezuela, as part of a globalist-backed coup in attempt to overthrow recently inaugurated president Nicolas Maduro.

    Reflect On: What are the ways in which we are continuing to condone these geopolitical activities? Are we having trouble separating Western propaganda from our basic human values?
    The attempted coup taking place in Venezuela right now is very instructive for those seeking to better understand the current geopolitical power struggle, as it is one of the most transparent illustrations of the well-worn tactics employed by the forces behind Western hegemony.

    Ideologies such as ‘socialism,’ ‘economic growth’ and ‘democracy’ continue to be bandied about in mainstream discourse with the highest degree of distortion. This is often intentional in order to justify political and military action that simply enriches the global elite at the expense of humanity at large. The problem is that much of the general public in the West continue to support these tactics by failing to see the thinly-veiled hypocrisy inherent in them.

    What Is Happening In Venezuela

    Venezuela under Hugo Chavez (1999-2012) was a thorn in the side of Western globalists, as Chavez became one of the greatest and most vocal critics of Western exploitation of his time. He named Nicolas Maduro as his successor in 2012. Maduro has been in power ever since, winning elections in 2013 and 2018.

    While Maduro amassed over two-thirds (67.8%) of the popular vote in 2018, his inauguration a few weeks ago was soon followed by statements from the European Union and others that they did not accept Maduro as the legitimate president based on election ‘irregularities.’

    In a move that seems impossible to justify on constitutional grounds, Juan Guaidó, the 35-year-old leader of Venezuela’s opposition-controlled national assembly, recently declared himself president of Venezuela, despite the fact that he did not even run in the presidential election.
    ...
    Battle Lines Drawn

    The parameters of this battle are easily delineated. Those nations under the control of globalists–and we must include the United States in this until proven otherwise–are offering their support to Guaidó. This is simply because support for Guaidó is support for the Globalist agenda, which in this case is bringing Venezuela’s vast resources, including the largest proven oil reserves in the world, under the control of Globalist oligarchs.
    ...
    Meanwhile, it is those few nations who have resisted globalism that unsurprisingly support the autonomy of Venezuela and hence the constitutional right of Maduro to retain power.
    ...
    Nicolás Maduro Is No Saint

    Supporting Nicolás Maduro’s constitutional right to serve out his term is not necessarily an endorsement of the man himself, his failed policies, or his allegedly unlawful suppression of dissent. But like Hugo Chavez before him, who espoused a form of socialism in an attempt to address the ills of poverty and economic disparity in his country, we could at least hold out hope that he is a leader with some regard for the welfare of his people.
    ...
    The main push behind this Western-backed attempted coup is the exploitation of a nation, which includes the enslavement of its people.

    Yes, Venezuela is currently suffering economic hardship right now, and some blame has to be put on the government. But we should not forget the impact of sanctions from the Western world, who do everything in their power to bring about economic hardship to countries that are not aligned with imperialistic policies. The Globalists don’t want to support oil-rich nations benefiting economically from the oil industry unless they get the lion’s share.
    ...
    How We Continue To Enable Western Imperialism

    By and large, the Western public continues to turn a blind eye to the attempts on the part of Western powers to use strong-arm tactics to ‘persuade’ countries like Venezuela to fall in line with the way the globalists want their country to operate. Why? Because many of us still believe that our political and economic systems are the best, and are more than willing to disregard the notion that other nations are sovereign if we can be convinced that forcing other nations to do things the way we do them will ultimately benefit us.

    Ending this kind of behavior is not founded in defeating the globalists, but rather in gaining enough awareness as a collective to reject the pro-Western propaganda we are being fed. This falls in line with the message of John Perkins, author of the classic Confessions of an Economic Hit Man.:
    Quote “It is driven not by a small band of men but by a concept that has become accepted as gospel: the idea that all economic growth benefits humankind and that the greater the growth, the more widespread the benefits. This belief also has a corollary: that those people who excel at stoking the fires of economic growth should be exalted and rewarded, while those born at the fringes are available for exploitation.”
    The Takeaway

    Our Western Powers, as invincible as they may seem, can only continue to perpetrate economic and political intimidation of sovereign nations as long as the majority of people in the West either approve of it or turn a blind eye to it. If indeed we want to create a world in which there is fairness, respect, freedom, and many of the other things that we value, then we have to look upon world events with a discerning mind, seeing through the propaganda enough to become fully aware of when the basic human values that we espouse are not being maintained.
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    My current understanding agrees with this Collective Evolution article.

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    From Larouche's Executive Intelligence Report, here is further insight into what's happening in Venezuela, that extends on the previous post just above: British Two-Part Operation in Venezuela Includes Interim President Guaidó, and Trump Is a Target:

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    British Two-Part Operation in Venezuela Includes Interim President Guaidó, and Trump Is a Target

    Jan. 30, 2019 (EIRNS)—As investigative journalists Max Blumenthal and Dan Cohen demonstrate in an article published Jan. 29 by the Grayzone, Venezuela’s self-proclaimed “interim president” Juan Guaidó is really a nobody, something like a Manchurian Candidate. Far from being the savior of Venezuelan democracy, the unelected 35-year-old president of Venezuela’s National Assembly is a creation of the global, London-spawned “Project Democracy” apparatus—funded by the National Endowment for Democracy (NED), USAID, and assorted George Soros-linked entities—for the sole purpose of launching a color revolution in Venezuela.

    But what Blumenthal and Cohen fail to mention or understand is that the apparatus they accurately describe is only one part of a two-pronged assault on Venezuela which began with the installation of the London-created and -directed Jacobin operation in the 1990s, first with Hugo Chávez and continued by his successor Nicolas Maduro—an operation which EIR has thoroughly documented. “Chavismo,” which the leftist Blumenthal defends, forged a strategic alliance with the FARC cocaine cartel (also run out of London), and wrecked the country, economically and politically, setting it up for what is occurring today: a Gene Sharp color revolution, also run from London, in which Guaidó, and many others like him, are just useful fools carrying out their assigned tasks.

    Nota bene: This is part and parcel of London’s coup against the U.S. President, as Trump is being urged to buy into the “defend democracy” fraud, perpetrated by the London-backed war-mongers in his cabinet—Pence, Pompeo, Bolton—and elsewhere. Trump today spoke to Guaidó by phone and congratulated him on his efforts.
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    Yes - this sounds spot on to me.

    Gain more control over a nation and its resources (something that the British empire is still quite adept at) by first wrecking that nation by installing a government that ruins it, economically and politically, and then operate some variation of a color revolution to overthrow that government with a puppet that you directly control.

    If, along the way, this puts Trump in a bad spot, having his foreign diplomacy controlled by war-mongers operating contrary to both his preferences and the preferences of most Americans, then so much the better.

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    Quote Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
    on "many": I'd say that some financially middle and upper class Venezuelans really and legitimately want Maduro out of there
    In support of your estimates, here's some polling data showing that 81% do NOT want the US economic and financial sanctions being applied against Venezuela to remove Maduro, 78% of Venezuelan's do NOT want international intervention to remove Maduro from power, and even more, 86%, do NOT want international military intervention to remove Maduro:

    86% of Venezuelans Oppose Military Intervention, 81% Are Against U.S. Sanctions, Local Polling Shows (Information Clearing House)

    Here also is a report that Venezuelan President Maduro, in an interview with Sputnik, complained that US National Security Adviser John Bolton (the war hawk with the unruly mustache) is refusing to pass along to US President Trump Maduro's request to speak with Trump. Maduro is convinced that if he and Trump could speak personally, then a better result could be worked out, and that he's quite willing to hold new parliamentary elections.

    So ... both Maduro and over 80% of Venezuelan's do NOT want Maduro kicked out of office by the US war hawk neocons (operating apparently at the behest of their UK masters, not at the behest of US President Trump.)

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    Given that we know Maduro imprisons many who oppose him and pays those who support him (often supermarkets only allow food to confirmed supporters) why should we believe this poll?

    It would fit the pattern if Hinterlaces who made the poll and run by Oscar Schemel was paid to fix the results. You have to realise that everything is tightly controlled in Venezuela.

    Of course it may be genuine but I object to the fact that 'evidence' is present as gospel if it confirms with your viewpoint and questioned if it does not. All mainstream information coming out of Venezuela is censured by the government and so certainly should be questioned. I agree it is most likely that Venezuelans don't want US intervention but I would be sure that more than 22% want international intervention to remove Maduro.

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    Quote It appears Maduro is responsible for Venezuela's condition. He put everybody on the payroll and then the oil price collapsed.
    What's not said, is that the oil price collapse, orchestration and protracted implementation was designed to undermine Venezuela's oil revenues... along with the financial, import/export sanctions imposed on the country and which is detailed in this thread.
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    The tug-of-war between Juan Guaidó and Nicolas Maduro for recognition as Venezuela’s president has recently intensified, including a new offensive strategy against freedom of speech by chavismo. Just in the last couple of days, Nicolás Maduro’s regime arrested two Chilean journalists (who spent at least 14 hours detained, before being deported), two Venezuelan, two French (working for private TV channel TF1, both later deported) and their local contact, free at the time of publication.

    Due process is not really a concern in the system Hugo Chávez built.
    Three workers of the Spanish news agency EFE were arrested as well: two Colombian nationals, one Spanish and their Venezuelan driver. The EFE Newsroom Board demandedtheir immediate release, followed by the Spanish and Colombian governments. After several hours, they were released. EFE publicly condemned their deportation afterwards.

    Maduro’s Foreign Minister, Jorge Arreaza, justifies all of this with the alleged enforcement of local laws, saying everything that’s going on against free press is really a “mediatic op.” Since we’ve covered similar cases in recent years, we can tell you: Arreaza’s claims are not just inaccurate, they’re pure bad faith.

    State Telecom CANTV has imposed targeted blocks on social networks and even Wikipedia, showing the hegemony’s willingness to create a void on information so the red narrative holds on. NGO IPYS Venezuela confirms that the battlefield has certainly expanded to digital arenas.

    “Chavismo has been building their communicational hegemony for 20 years, first by creating new outlets, then by censorship. Today, mainstream media is either dead, or self-censored due to harassment from CONATEL. The lack of newsprint was a deliberate part of it, and the one thing left are digital outlets and the foreign press. How come they don’t attack Televen or Venevisión? It’s because they’re already subdued.”

    “If they can’t control it, they attack it.”

    Journalist Luis Carlos Díaz has an even more Machiavellian theory:

    “(This is) a system doing all it can for international recognition, including kidnapping and holding foreign citizens, so consulates and ambassadors are forced to recognize them as authorities for negotiation.”

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    Trying to move matters sideways , and I am a solid Maduro supporter for what I regard essentially as first principle reasons :--


    Is it possible that the apparently appalling mistakes being made here by Trump are based on group think that it is easily the best option because Venezuela must not fall into Russian or Chinese hands ?

    If that is a thought - out and joined-up strategy, I believe it cannot be lightly dismissed .

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    To what degree does the boycotts that certain parties did in the last election de-legitimise the result, and Maduro's presidency?
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    Here is a quite readable article describing Venezuela's oil reserves: Valuing Venezuela’s Orinoco Oil Belt.

    In short - the reserves are Huuuge. There may be enough oil there to provide the entire world's oil needs for 30 years, and the reserves are in a geographic location, a warm climate and close to the ocean for shipping, that is quite convenient.

    The British globalists and their "special" ally the Americans have spent the last century making sure they control the largest petroleum exporting regions. Now they are losing their grip on the Middle East, and have little control over Russian oil. They must control the two other largest reserves, the Canadian tar sands in Alberta and Venezuela’s Orinoco Oil Belt. This has no doubt been obvious to these globalists for at least a couple of decades. Thus they must destroy any independent nation-state in that region. Destroying independent nation states is a core competency of these globalists.

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    interesting theory on how it may be about protecting the monopoly that the US has on V.'s oil (Venezuela has larger fields than saudi)

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    Michael Hudson, who may be one of, if not the, smartest economist that I enjoy reading, reminded me of something that I had noticed sometime ago, and then forgotten.

    Trump is destroying the American Imperial Empire, at record pace. With his various sanctions and erratic attacks on any nation that doesn't bow to his "Axis of Evil" John Bolton, Mike Pompeo and Elliott Abrams, Trump is driving other nations to build financial, trade, and infrastructure arrangements with each other, independent of the United States, as fast as they can.

    The Yankees and their King Dollar, global intelligence networks, and sole remaining superpower military, are no longer to be trusted.

    Or if you prefer Michael Hudson's lengthier, more erudite, version of this observation, see his new article at Trump’s Brilliant Strategy to Dismember U.S. Dollar Hegemony (CounterPunch).

    Here are four paragraphs from the middle of Hudson's article to wet your appetite:

    =============
    The Deep State is reacting with shock at how this right-wing real estate grifter has been able to drive other countries to defend themselves by dismantling the U.S.-centered world order. To rub it in, he is using Bush and Reagan-era Neocon arsonists, John Bolton and now Elliott Abrams, to fan the flames in Venezuela. It is almost like a black political comedy. The world of international diplomacy is being turned inside-out. A world where there is no longer even a pretense that we might adhere to international norms, let alone laws or treaties.

    The Neocons who Trump has appointed are accomplishing what seemed unthinkable not long ago: Driving China and Russia together – the great nightmare of Henry Kissinger and Zbigniew Brzezinski. They also are driving Germany and other European countries into the Eurasian orbit, the “Heartland” nightmare of Halford Mackinder a century ago.

    The root cause is clear: After the crescendo of pretenses and deceptions over Iraq, Libya and Syria, along with our absolution of the lawless regime of Saudi Arabia, foreign political leaders are coming to recognize what world-wide public opinion polls reported even before the Iraq/Iran-Contra boys turned their attention to the world’s largest oil reserves in Venezuela: The United States is now the greatest threat to peace on the planet.

    Calling the U.S. coup being sponsored in Venezuela a defense of democracy reveals the Doublethink underlying U.S. foreign policy. It defines “democracy” to mean supporting U.S. foreign policy, pursuing neoliberal privatization of public infrastructure, dismantling government regulation and following the direction of U.S.-dominated global institutions, from the IMF and World Bank to NATO. For decades, the resulting foreign wars, domestic austerity programs and military interventions have brought more violence, not democracy.
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    Dmitry Orlov offers his own analysis of what's going on with the U.S. and Venezuela in this article: Why must Venezuela be destroyed? (InformationClearingHouse).

    Dmitry also figures it's about oil, and that once the U.S. fracking efforts fail, which they will (I agree), then the US will once again be looking to import large quantities of oil. The U.S. used to blow up nations and steal their oil, but that's not been working so well lately. It failed in Syria, and Dmitry figures it will fail in Venezuela as well.

    To these points, Dmitry writes:
    Quote A rather large oil shortage is coming, and it will rather specifically affect the US, which burns 20% of the world’s oil (with just 5% of the world’s population). Once fracking crashes, the US will go from having to import 2.5 million barrels per day to importing at least 10—and that oil won’t exist. Previously, the US was able to solve this problem by blowing up countries and stealing their oil: the destruction of Iraq and Libya made American oil companies whole for a while and kept the financial house of cards from collapsing. But the effort to blow up Syria has failed, and the attempt to blow up Venezuela is likely to fail too because, keep in mind, Venezuela has between 7 and 9 million Chavistas imbued with the Bolivarian revolutionary spirit, a large and well-armed military and is generally a very tough neighborhood.
    Essentially in agreement with Michael Hudson (previous post above), Dmitry figures that the American Empire is collapsing.

    Dmitry concludes his article with:
    Quote If Plan A (steal Venezuela’s oil) fails, then Plan B is to take all of your US dollar-denominated paper waste—cash, stocks, bonds, deeds, insurance policies, promissory notes, etc.—and burn it in trash barrels in an effort to stay warm. There is a definite whiff of desperation to the whole affair. The global hegemon is broken; it fell down and it can’t get up.
    I agree with both Dmitry and Hudson ... and enjoy reading both of them.

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    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    Michael Hudson, who may be one of, if not the, smartest economist that I enjoy reading, reminded me of something that I had noticed sometime ago, and then forgotten.

    Trump is destroying the American Imperial Empire, at record pace. With his various sanctions and erratic attacks on any nation that doesn't bow to his "Axis of Evil" John Bolton, Mike Pompeo and Elliott Abrams, Trump is driving other nations to build financial, trade, and infrastructure arrangements with each other, independent of the United States, as fast as they can.

    The Yankees and their King Dollar, global intelligence networks, and sole remaining superpower military, are no longer to be trusted.

    Or if you prefer Michael Hudson's lengthier, more erudite, version of this observation, see his new article at Trump’s Brilliant Strategy to Dismember U.S. Dollar Hegemony (CounterPunch).

    Here are four paragraphs from the middle of Hudson's article to wet your appetite:

    =============
    The Deep State is reacting with shock at how this right-wing real estate grifter has been able to drive other countries to defend themselves by dismantling the U.S.-centered world order. To rub it in, he is using Bush and Reagan-era Neocon arsonists, John Bolton and now Elliott Abrams, to fan the flames in Venezuela. It is almost like a black political comedy. The world of international diplomacy is being turned inside-out. A world where there is no longer even a pretense that we might adhere to international norms, let alone laws or treaties.

    The Neocons who Trump has appointed are accomplishing what seemed unthinkable not long ago: Driving China and Russia together – the great nightmare of Henry Kissinger and Zbigniew Brzezinski. They also are driving Germany and other European countries into the Eurasian orbit, the “Heartland” nightmare of Halford Mackinder a century ago.

    The root cause is clear: After the crescendo of pretenses and deceptions over Iraq, Libya and Syria, along with our absolution of the lawless regime of Saudi Arabia, foreign political leaders are coming to recognize what world-wide public opinion polls reported even before the Iraq/Iran-Contra boys turned their attention to the world’s largest oil reserves in Venezuela: The United States is now the greatest threat to peace on the planet.

    Calling the U.S. coup being sponsored in Venezuela a defense of democracy reveals the Doublethink underlying U.S. foreign policy. It defines “democracy” to mean supporting U.S. foreign policy, pursuing neoliberal privatization of public infrastructure, dismantling government regulation and following the direction of U.S.-dominated global institutions, from the IMF and World Bank to NATO. For decades, the resulting foreign wars, domestic austerity programs and military interventions have brought more violence, not democracy.
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    Somebody better tell the genius strategist guy in the white house that Venezuela CANNOT POSSIBLY maneuver their way out of the international noose that the American Empire has around them, so even if the author is correct, it's too late for Venezuela to network their way out of this. Collateral damage, I guess. Assuming this really was genius strategy and not just a "spin" on another imperialist takeover, like madeline albright, would trump say "It was worth it"? At the globalist level, this is just a board game (like "Risk") and human lives, environment, and even entire nations are expendable.


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    ~230~ Venezuela Fake Coup, Truth About Kamala Harris, & Yellow Vests


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    Lee Camp speaks with Eva Golinger about the disinformation surrounding Venezuela and how Western corporate media drop the ball when it comes to giving the context of Venezuela’s very real crisis. Then, he breaks down the ridiculousness of Trump promoting the execution of drug dealers.

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    My God Herve, it's embarrassing the propaganda lies you keep posting!

    I can only conclude that you have OCD or are paid by the Russians...

    And you're an Administrator? No wonder the membership is falling.

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    Quote Posted by 5th (here)
    My God Herve, it's embarrassing the propaganda lies you keep posting!

    I can only conclude that you have OCD or are paid by the Russians...

    And you're an Administrator? No wonder the membership is falling.
    hahahahaha I hear that Putin pays good money to post a meme poster with some comparison election (and non-election) stats. Hervé, could you please put a good word in for me at the Kremlin the next time you get your paycheck? Tell Vlad that I too have been following the Russian plan of warning Venezuela of Globalist attack and takeover, spearheaded by the USA, INC. and its CIA. I too deserve a paycheck.


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    Quote Posted by 5th (here)
    My God Herve, it's embarrassing the propaganda lies you keep posting!

    I can only conclude that you have OCD or are paid by the Russians...

    And you're an Administrator? No wonder the membership is falling.
    5th, if you feel that way then why do you stay? If it was up to me, you'd been G-O-N-E weeks ago.

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    5th, if you feel that way then why do you stay? If it was up to me, you'd been G-O-N-E weeks ago.

    At least my comment was amusing - yours is just plain nasty.

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