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    it was incredible and entertaining...I never thought Alex Jones into aliens stuff but into Policits-society that he talked about for years.

    i really want to try DMT thing...

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    Default Re: Joe Rogan: Alex Jones Returns...

    I'm surprised they're doing a new show, after how they were talking about each other recently.



    Really happy that they reunited. That's amazing! Looking forward to this. People on YouTube already comment how this video is getting millions of clicks in less than a day and it's still not appearing in the "Trending" section of YouTube, another case of shadow-banning.

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    be careful with DMT, Apokalypse, do not mix it with anything else and be reasonable with the quantity absorbed.

    I have seen first hand a young one permanently brain changed with DMT and it was not funny. He was permanently hallucinating geometrical figures day in day out, 24 hours a day. Speaking with me he saw those figures floating around.

    He knew they were hallucination and would not give attention to them, but he told me it was the greatest mistake he ever did and just hoped his brain would come back like before some day.

    This had been going on for him for more than one year already. It was so bothersome that he had problem to work, problems to study, problems. It took him more than 6 months, seeing him daily, before he confided in me what happened. And despite this, he was getting ok in studies with me. I know it was true.
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    Quote Posted by Flash (here)
    be careful with DMT, Apokalypse, do not mix it with anything else and be reasonable with the quantity absorbed.

    I have seen first hand a young one permanently brain changed with DMT and it was not funny. He was permanently hallucinating geometrical figures day in day out, 24 hours a day. Speaking with me he saw those figures floating around.

    He knew they were hallucination and would not give attention to them, but he told me it was the greatest mistake he ever did and just hoped his brain would come back like before some day.

    This had been going on for him for more than one year already. It was so bothersome that he had problem to work, problems to study, problems. It took him more than 6 months, seeing him daily, before he confided in me what happened. And despite this, he was getting ok in studies with me. I know it was true.


    100% supporting Flash's post here.

    (Any further discussion about DMT is best on this different thread)


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    Exomatrix, Wow don't I agree with you about the word 'believe' and the usage that most people makes of it.

    I too try not to use that word again. As for you, I would rather use 'I know that..., I have experienced x..., I've read y...., I am aware of...,' yes, believe systems always ask for proof either ways and play right in the dichotomy and polarities ever present on this planet.

    I had an epiphany one day, and it was that we should have no believes whatsoever (which is a belief by the way lol) in order to see the plain truth.

    You want to see, stop believing!

    I have worked with beliefs systems for the last 20 years, in many many circumstances with many many people. My trainings and conferences were built around values and beliefs systems, to train people to make them more flexible. I went subtle, even customer service courses were built on the beliefs systems of the agent and the customers. I had noticed that people are quite stiff in their own created systems and that it leads to so many difficulties and conflicts.

    Making ones beliefs system more flexible is a very slow endeaviour, most people resist non stop. But once achieved, it is a life changer. To end up, years later, with the epiphany that all beliefs are to be abolished.

    Ok, I am back to Joe Rogan and Alex Jones lollll
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    Im an Alex Jones fan through and through, folks who make accusations and doubt him forget how many things he has done to help validate things we now take for granted in the alt media. I was pretty pissed at Rogan for dismissing and dissing Jones and was prepared to never watch another Rogan podcast again. That being said I was really glad they hugged it out and Rogan very genuinely in my opinion apologized for his remarks on Soros going on to say he should never have had made those statements considering how ignorant he truly was on Soros. Jones touches on something truly mind blowing 45 minutes in, explaining who is really in control and who is responsible for a lot of negative tech like 5g. Jones States that he has never mentioned it on his own show because he doesn't think people can handle it. Jones states he has gotten information from 100s of general types and intelligence folks that there are inter-dimensional astronauts taking DMT and talking to grey alien types, this he says is going on in a place in San Francisco. One is reminded of the archons and such while he describes them. He got off the topic way to fast and didn't elaborate enough but this was pretty mind blowing. I'm two hours in and will report back if something pings my interest.
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    Quote Posted by DNA (here)
    Im an Alex Jones fan through and through, folks who make accusations and doubt him forget how many things he has done to help validate things we now take for granted in the alt media. I was pretty pissed at Rogan for dismissing and dissing Jones and was prepared to never watch another Rogan podcast again. That being said I was really glad they hugged it out and Rogan very genuinely in my opinion apologized for his remarks on Soros saying he should never have had made those statements considering how ignorant he truly was on Soros. Jones touches on something truly mind blowing 45 minutes in saying explaining who is really in control and who is responsible for a lot of negative tech like 5g. Jones States that he has never mentioned it on his own show because he doesn't think people can handle it. Jones states he has gotten information from 100s of general tired and intelligence folks that there are interdimensional astronauts taking DMT and taking to grey alien types, this he says is going on in a place in San Francisco. One is reminded of the archons and such while he describes them. He got off the topic way to fast and didn't elaborate enough but this was pretty mind blowing. I'm two hours in and will report back if something pings my interest.
    Yes.

    If I were Alex Jones' manager or PR adviser (an impossible task! ), there's quite a lot I'd be counseling him about. But he does have a good grasp on some things which make him look batsh*t crazy to most people.

    Dr Bill Deagle stated clearly in his epic and important December 2006 Granada Forum Lecture (long before most others were discussing this) that the real masters of the globalists were transdimensional demonic beings.

    Soon after, David Icke was talking about the same material, and following that came the work of Peter Levenda and many others. They're all 100% correct.

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    Flash I am aware I simplified things about people having a "Need to beLIEve" Syndrome ... in my view, there are many levels of it ... SOME beliefs can be very helpful, constructive & positive because it has to do with a certain mind-set or attitudes ... I could go much deeper in to that topic and talk about it for at least 1 hour straight!

    And yes, Flash, I know what you mean, and totally dig that.


    My take on it is this:


    If you ask your husband or wife (girl- or boy-friend): "DO YOU LOVE ME?" and he/she responses: "I believe I do" ... what goes through your mind? ... or what do you feel when you hear an answer like that?

    And I can give you much more examples like: "Do you 'believe' that Japan exist" or do you KNOW that Japan exist? ... What is the difference, when do you reach the point that you KNOW that Japan exist? ... Same for UFOs ... Mainstream Media 99% of the times ask "Do you 'believe' in UFOs"? as if there is "nothing" to know ... or nothing to experience etc.

    I am so FED UP with their mind-games! Assuming that UFOs are like "Goblins" you have to "believe" in it for it to be true. Then they look at you in a condescending way as if you are a "weaker species" of the human race.

    I have been on Dutch National TV 22 times mostly talking about UFOs, UFO Conferences I organized also on many times on Local TV Amsterdam too. Am used to hear the "believe" question over and over an over again!

    Then I realized they falsely assume it is just a "belief" or they want it be just a "belief-system" knowing that is not correct. All to downgrade the whole subject.

    There are different types "non-believers" ... those who refuses to believe anything because they know it literary means to ACCEPT without real proof! ... Then you have "non-believers" who want to believe something else instead.

    When you consider something, you are open to the possibility (of anything) ... to do that some assume you "must" have a level of "belief" .... WRONG! ... Why? Because allowing yourself to be surprised is NOT the same as "belief" ... There we have the levels of "expectations" we have in anything. Those can be determent by OR "beliefs" or willingness to learn new things in life without assuming to know (it all) !

    And I can go and on with this maze of human behavior or should I say "The Mass Human (De)Conditioning"

    Just got a new brainwave about levels of "belief" example:

    Imagine you 100% believe that a "pink elephant flying in the sky" will protect you from anything evil in this world ... Because of doing that you are not afraid anymore and become more yourself in doing things much more effective & successfully, you sleep better etc. etc. You just created your own "evidence" focusing on the results of having that belief-system. You solved your depressions, your insecurity problems, anxiety problems, your shyness etc. Then when some one else claims: "pink elephant flying in the sky" does not exists. You (may) get mad or angry towards that person! ... So who Am I to "question your beliefs"

    Another example of "levels of belief":


    In my Stop5G Facebook Group I have had over 25 people (last 15 months) asking: "How to protect or shield yourself against 4G & 5G Microwaves & EMFs"

    The question has already be posted over 25 times last months and answered by 100+ practical members ... it also invites UNWANTED commercial links that could be scams & hoaxes! People that beLIEve scams & hoaxes are ~whitewashing~ exploitation of fear ... that is why I ask everybody ONLY to share independent reviews & own personal experiences/testing without sharing commercial sites!

    People that beLIEve scams & hoaxes are ~whitewashing~ exploitation of fear! When a person truly believes a lie or a scam ... it will NOT register as a "lie" by any (sophisticated) lie-detector ... hence see the power of believes! ... Others can now see & sense that you truly believe something and feel it that you are genuinely passionate about believing that lie or scam. Thus new people not knowing it is a "whitewashed lie" may buy the new product (scam/hoax) because of the "believer".




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    Some Avalon Admins/Moderators requested me to be more interactive with other Forum members in Forum posts. Because I am known to be a heavy poster of controversial topics without adding my own take on it. So here I go ... Here you see my "interaction"
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    Default Re: Joe Rogan: Alex Jones Returns...

    I am sad that, as last time they were together, they had to include Eddie Bravo. He detracts from the conversation and does not add and actually slows everything way down in a way I dont think helps the flow.

    I really enjoyed when Alex offered to give Eddie a boat to find the ice wall.

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    Exomatric, maybe we should have a whole thread on it. I wonder if this thread is the right one. As long as we discuss beliefs systems and not get hook on the religious parts of it.

    However, I do have much to add as well. I am so happy to finally meet someone who has thought of it as much as I did. The beliefs systems... for example, your link of beliefs and fear, wow, this is telling. I think this is one of the reason why people are so stiff with their beliefs, they in fact fear.

    Belief and being surprised (or flexible in my terms), this is completely true. Often strongly held beliefs stop the surprises life brings into one's path.

    And beliefs being positive, such as your pink elephant in the sky example. Yes, beliefs can help go through the next level of learning or being. But, it is only a step towards the new you, if one hooks on the pink elephant , having a stiff belief in it, its evolution stops there.

    etc.etc.

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    Quote Posted by Flash (here)
    Exomatric, maybe we should have a whole thread on it. I wonder if this thread is the right one. As long as we discuss beliefs systems and not get hook on the religious parts of it.

    However, I do have much to add as well. I am so happy to finally meet someone who has thought of it as much as I did. The beliefs systems... for example, your link of beliefs and fear, wow, this is telling. I think this is one of the reason why people are so stiff with their beliefs, they in fact fear.

    Belief and being surprised (or flexible in my terms), this is completely true. Often strongly held beliefs stop the surprises life brings into one's path.

    And beliefs being positive, such as your pink elephant in the sky example. Yes, beliefs can help go through the next level of learning or being. But, it is only a step towards the new you, if one hooks on the pink elephant , having a stiff belief in it, its evolution stops there.

    etc.etc.

    When people using the "effects of their believe" as "evidence" will most likely get trapped in that framework (construction of the mind) indeed! ... Some mind-constructs can be (temporary) positive, even so ... still can hold you back to really evolve.

    "Practical Truths" may work in the context when & where it is used until it becomes obsolete and you go to the "next best thing" ... thus some "perceptional truths" serving an agenda does not make it an "absolute truth" but just a "functional truth"

    What works for you does not have to work for me and via versa!

    If people really would grasp all of this ... they may grow out of their own created "thought cage" (safe space bubble).
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    Default Re: Joe Rogan: Alex Jones Returns...

    Another word on this interview.

    There is a moment when Alex Jones is criticizing Bill Maher for having said "he would rather watch the US economy fail than succeed under Trump".

    Now something quite intriguing happens here.

    Joe Rogan goes on to defend Bill Maher saying that "he is just a comic doing a bit and trying to get a few laughs".

    Alex then points out something very important and I feel it actually hit home with Rogan.

    Alex points out how although the normal media outlets and their news shows are dying in terms of viewers compared to years past, the comedy news shows such as Steven Colbert, Jimmy Fallon, Jimmy Kimmel and Bill Mahar have all had their viewers sky rocket, and that many folks are walking away from these supposed comedy shows and taking the views as real news and are being influenced considerably by them.

    At this point Rogan expressed disbelief that most of these comedy talk shows are getting their talking points and jokes from spokes people on the left and to this Alex told him that Jimmy Kimmel admited discussing almost every shows content with Chuck Schumer before filming.

    Pretty powerful stuff.

    This I feel should also serve notice on comedians in general.

    Comedy now is involved with creating narratives and enforcing stereo types that are divisive and destructive in terms of the cohesiveness of this country.

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    it was incredible and entertaining...I never thought Alex Jones into aliens stuff but into Policits-society that he talked about for years.

    i really want to try DMT thing...
    this is a very very good interview, I love it.

    At 1:00 to 1:10 Alex speak of late abortion and baby being taken away alive, to be put in planes for their organs to be harvested by Chinese groups, worth 500,000$ a body.

    20 years ago, when I was in Turkey, I was friend with a group of medical doctors over there. They were all pretty good doctors (Turkish doctor must do compulsory army medecine for 3 years when out of university, this makes them incredibly good, war medecine). They were aware of one or two of their colleagues, would not name names, working on boats on the meditarenean harvesting organs and transfering them into other bodies. Those boats were illegal hospital boats in the meditarenean international waters. Rich people from all over would come for the organ transplants. They told me those boats were primarily servicing Israelis at the time, but others would come as well. They did not know where the organs were taken from.

    What Alex says is true. It has been going on for decades but it is getting worst, wanting public and legal approval for it now.

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    this is a very very good interview, I love it.


    Right. It's really quite something. I'm only an hour in, and Alex is talking so machine-gun fast about so many VERY VERY interesting things I already know I'm going to have to listen to it again.

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    it was incredible and entertaining...I never thought Alex Jones into aliens stuff but into Policits-society that he talked about for years.

    i really want to try DMT thing...
    this is a very very good interview, I love it.

    At 1:00 to 1:10 Alex speak of late abortion and baby being taken away alive, to be put in planes for their organs to be harvested by Chinese groups, worth 500,000$ a body.

    20 years ago, when I was in Turkey, I was friend with a group of medical doctors over there. They were all pretty good doctors (Turkish doctor must do compulsory army medecine for 3 years when out of university, this makes them incredibly good, war medecine). They were aware of one or two of their colleagues, would not name names, working on boats on the meditarenean harvesting organs and transfering them into other bodies. Those boats were illegal hospital boats in the meditarenean international waters. Rich people from all over would come for the organ transplants. They told me those boats were primarily servicing Israelis at the time, but others would come as well. They did not know where the organs were taken from.

    What Alex says is true. It has been going on for decades but it is getting worst, wanting public and legal approval for it now.

    I remember back in 1997 or 1998 I had saved a newspaper clipping about a Turkish orphanage where they were using the kids for organ transplants.

    One day a kid would walk off thinking he was being adopted and he was actually being killed and having his organs taken and sold.

    At the time I had no detachment to these things and I was shocked beyond belief.

    We now know how common these kind of things are.

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    Just had to post a respnse hre.

    This is highly diffifcult material to follow and I have been a Project Camelot and Avalonial for over a decade......I am Canadian and my first language is English but......WOW! I have had to pause and review at several points. AJ is just an ADHD rage monkey at times. It is like his mouth is a machine gun.....spewing bullets of information at you.

    To be blunt.
    It is very worthwhile to listen to.
    He does ( am at hour 1:15) drop some interesting truth "bombs" but.......this is quite hard to listen to.
    I am "clinically" ADHD and I am having problems following this..............Joe Rogan does attempt to focus and sett;le him donw a bit.
    I would really prefer to read a transcipt or watch a highly professionally edited version of this. Which could be nigh on impossible!
    Until then...........have a few glasses of wine or yourwhatever is your pleasure and...
    ENJOY!

    My brain hurts.....

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    this is a very very good interview, I love it.


    Right. It's really quite something. I'm only an hour in, and Alex is talking so machine-gun fast about so many VERY VERY interesting things I already know I'm going to have to listen to it again.
    I love it too. We laughed so hard here last night listening to this podcast. Alex has so much to say that Joe needs to do a series on him. Joe and Alex are amazing together, highly informative and entertaining.

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    You mustn't be afraid to dream a little BIGGER, darling.

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    Default Re: Joe Rogan: Alex Jones Returns...

    i love it when Alex calling out on Rogan about he know all of this stuff but quite about it which pissed Alex off...i do think Rogan knows it aswell but he want to play safe stay out of it.

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    Default Re: Joe Rogan: Alex Jones Returns...

    Dr Bill Deagle stated clearly in his epic and important December 2006 Granada Forum Lecture (long before most others were discussing this) that the real masters of the globalists were transdimensional demonic beings.

    Soon after, David Icke was talking about the same material, and following that came the work of Peter Levenda and many others. They're all 100% correct.

    Just to piggyback on this theme: I think it is relevant to add some other historical and contemporary references to the concept of transdimensional entities manipulating the human global elite

    1, Emerald tablets -thoth
    2, Nag hammadi (gnostic text): concept of the Archons introduced
    3. Carlos Castanada books
    4. Barbara Marciniak - Pleadian channeling books
    and I am sure many others ...


    It is AJ's overly bombastic manic gravely voice demeanor that personally turns me off and unfortunately leads many to disregard whatever he says because they consider him to be "Bat **** crazy." It is a shame because the understanding of this concept is of paramount importance to the individual / collective in overcoming the oppression

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