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    Hi I'm not one of these people who share all the stats and the long details. I have so like I wanted to ask a question about handing out your fingers to the USA to keep when passing over into the Airports immigration system. What are people's opinions stay away or chance it? Finger prints being taken....

    I'm someone who does not give out any personal details as much as I can. I have a particular worry about finger printing and scanning the eyes. To me the scanning the eyes are to the soul but I~'m half okay with that side.

    It's just I'm an innocent individual who does not fancy having my finger prints held for a later date somewhere in the usa system. I know your answer will be then don't come and then that's is fine... I won't lol.

    So I just wondered what people's opinions where so to speak. I'm from UK so I'll be going through customs for the first time and I wondered what goes on that is can it be avoided or not?
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    Default Re: American Airport Security: is it safe?

    I can't answer your question, Angel, except to say I believe they know who everyone is anyway and if they want your fingerprints, dna or blood, they have ample opportunities over a lifetime to get them.

    I refuse to let them keep me away from gathering with like minded people.
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    I don't trust their scanning machines.
    I refuse to go through them.
    If everyone did likewise they would be forced to eliminate them.
    They don't have the staff nor time to fondle each and every passenger for 5+ minutes.

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    They have facial recognition in many airports now, Cuba and Montreal airports have it, road US customs have it , etc. I do not see much why people have to be fondle. With the tech, it has become une essary. It is getting scary the control they have.
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    In my opinion the most important thing to keep in mind about US airport security is it is all a sham, meant more to condition people for a police state than to actually make them safe. The TSA was created and justified by 9/11, which most now know was a false flag. The backscatter machines don’t do their job and weapons are easily passed through while you get irradiated. They love to fondle your privates and make you feel like a terrorist carrying explosives in your shampoo bottle.
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    Quote Posted by Valerie Villars (here)
    I can't answer your question, Angel, except to say I believe they know who everyone is anyway and if they want your fingerprints, dna or blood, they have ample opportunities over a lifetime to get them.
    1000% agreed. If the US wants to know anything about you they'll simply ask the nanny state that is the UK.
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    LOL I absolutely love your comment lol. So true!!!!! thank you that made me laugh.
    I think from my spiritual experiences they already know who I am but I'm fighting them in everyway but the ID thing is too much for me but I so want to go to a certain part of the states so it better be worth the visit.
    What do they do now in Canada? are they as bad as the USA or are they fingerless friendly. lol

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    Haha no problem.

    Honestly if I were you I'd just call and ask the protocol. Tell them you don't wanna do fingerprint/eyescanner etc and see what they say.

    When I traveled outside US I didn't have to do eyescanner but I think I had to do thumbprint for my passport.
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    Quote Posted by Angels1981 (here)
    What do they do now in Canada? are they as bad as the USA or are they fingerless friendly. lol
    They aren't as bad as the U.S. I don't think any country in the world is as bad as the U.S. at their airports.
    I've flown to quite a few.
    Canadian airport security personnel aren't any friendlier to those without fingers ("fingerless friendly") as they are to those with fingers.

    I went through security at Toronto's Pearson Intl. airport just before Christmas last year and I didn't have to go through any scanners!
    No fondling either!
    They did make me take off my shoes and belt though.
    Much less stress there than in the U.S.

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    Quote Posted by Angels1981 (here)
    LOL I absolutely love your comment lol. So true!!!!! thank you that made me laugh.
    I think from my spiritual experiences they already know who I am but I'm fighting them in everyway but the ID thing is too much for me but I so want to go to a certain part of the states so it better be worth the visit.
    What do they do now in Canada? are they as bad as the USA or are they fingerless friendly. lol
    No way, Canadian customs are far far far from being as bad as USA ones. Very rare pading, they open your hand luggage in front of you and listen to what you say (ex: protein bars for diabetic - just said it and they let me through with it - would never happen in the USA.)

    If you are a Canadian, they do not finger print you at the US border, but if you are European, they do (they fingerprinted my maybe future son in law this summer). And everybody else.

    They scream at you at the US border (I have never seen this with the Canadians nor elsewhere, got the impression to be in the old Soviet Union at times).

    But if you go to a burial, US custom are nice.
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    Gulps. I'm not sure if I want to do it to be honest. I just really feel I know what they are doing it for anyways and I've skipped them so much until now. dum dum dum!!!
    I'm English not European per say. lol. I am fine with Canadian customs they seem to be okay. However, the USA ones it's the finger printing collection they love to keep that turns me green. They break down the trust and tell people that everyone is a suspect. REALLY wow...

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    I recommend for you to go for it, take the trip.

    That being said, keep in mind the fun you will have at your destination as you grind through the endless security. Expect delays and long queues / lines for security, expect it to take a long time, expect no humor. It's not really such a big deal, if you don't mind being treated like cattle or as a social experiment to train us for police state brutality, as has been mentioned.

    As for personal identity concerns, please realize, from birth you have been tracked, coded, recorded and filed. Unless of course you live an existence on 100% off the books cash, with no driving, no property, no mortgage, no bills, no bank account, no NI number and finally no passport with which to travel, would this be a problem or an issue.

    Your files, along with everyone else's can be accessed by any of the the five eyes at any time, including the US, for any pretext or reason. IF the US was interested to know more about you, via their pals at gchq, they would have their info in short order. In this scenario the US having your fingerprints and any other identifiable information should be the least of your concerns as they would be able to triangulate your whereabouts and activities and associates with ease. The US can do this today if it chose to, it dosen't matter if you visit the US ever or never.

    Just like any other sap level program of this nature, there would first need to be the will on the part of the US to open a dialog about you with gchq. If there is nothing about you for the US government to be interested in, then by all means travel, if however, you feel there could be cause for pause, then stay put. But either way, don't kid yourself, you are merely a few clicks away should they ever want to look at you in more detail.... N
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    I recommend for you to go for it, take the trip....
    Pretty much everything you said was true.

    But there are other reasons one might hesitate to go on a trip to the U.S. besides the fear or apprehension
    of going through all the security hassles at airports.

    One of these reasons might simply be boycotting the U.S. on principle.
    The principle of unwarranted searches, humiliation, stress, supporting the security companies who manufacture the scanning machines etc.

    If the trip isn't urgent or compulsory and another destination might suffice (say for a vacation etc.) avoidance of the U.S. should certainly be an option.
    It would send a message to those interested in tourist $$$.

    If enough people did likewise, someone somewhere may eventually begin to connect the dots and change their draconian practices.

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    They already know me as they have monitored me and I have fought like cat and dog with them. They are pure evil things and they don't like love.
    That is exactly my point not to go because I don't want to give them that satisfaction and I know they do NHS number and NI number and stuff I know too much and I am their radar. They are trying to put me to sleep and make it look as though I'm just me and that nothing I seen when I was attacked was real. I just not liking it they ram down your head that you're fear to try and break you when all I want to do is love.
    I love this place my Canadian friend wishes to take me too. I don't really want to go and do it so I need to tell her to bail on the idea. I'd rather stay off radar physically as much as possible. They think they are powerful but they are not. I am glad I'm free to that opinion on a site such as this.
    If you look at history with the Autwitz not sure if spelt right you can see the evil cattle range pile up even there so it's like. I can look at you tube and see the tourist highlights. lol. Thanks

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    Did he say " I have so like I wanted to ask a question about handing out " ...
    and not having any corectiiuvate as a small punishment even. wow congrats buddy !
    Maybe I dare to post something in this forum again ,not being restricted by word correcting terror.

    To answer your question Angels1981
    -If your heart is clear of guilt, and you truely belive in the bible(or likesome) , and there is no glimpse of a doubt in your eye while the laser scans it, and if your fingers have never touched any drug in your life , as they ARE going to digitaly print them! , you have nothing to fear entering the USA
    Oh Almost forgot, don'nt wear a band aid , watch this

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