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    Arecibo is on the northern coast of Puerto Rico and contains a natural disc-shaped hole in the rock. Inside this bowl was constructed the world's largest radio-telescope, with a diameter of 1000 feet.

    In 1974 a number of modifications had been carried out to the transmitter, enabling it to broadcast signals at a power of up to 20 terawatts (1 terawatt = 1 trillion watts) and as an inaugural test of these improvements it was decided by SETI to transmit an encoded message to the heavens. This signal was aimed towards the globular star cluster M13, some 25,000 light years away and consisting of some 300,000 stars in the constellation of Hercules.

    The message was actually transmitted on November 16th 1974 and consisted of 1679 pulses of binary code (0's and 1's) - which took a little under three minutes to transmit. It was transmitted on a frequency of 2380MHz (which is significant later).





    http://www.cropcircleresearch.com/articles/arecibo.html


    On Tuesday 21st August 2001 two new crop formations were reported near Chilbolton radio telescope in Hampshire, UK. Both were very impressive looking and consisted of a large number of small 'pixels', which when viewed from the air formed a recognisable shape - unlike many other crop formations.

    One represented a 'human face' and the other resembled a radio transmission that SETI (the Search for Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence) sent from the Arecibo radio telescope in 1974.







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    .............................continued from ''up there''........................

    The Binary mystery would return in August 2002, 8.5 miles southeast of the Chilbolton formations in 2001...







    http://www.cropcircleresearch.com/ar...alienface.html

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    Default Re: The Chilbolton Event

    I still tend to believe the event was of special significance. Perhaps it was a real reply..or perhaps not.
    However SETI thought differently at the time and their rebuff was logical. The statement they made is no longer on their website however www.seti.org/general/ao_message_crop.html is still available in the WayBackMachine.


    Quote Posted by SETI Oct 18 2001
    Is the Latest Crop Circle a Message from E.T?

    Crop Circles. Undoubtedly you're aware of these intricate patterns carved in the wheat fields of (mostly) England.

    But could they be signals from visiting aliens?

    Despite the fact that many of the circles are known to be the work of pranksters, interest in crop circles has enjoyed a recent revival thanks to a pair of new patterns that appear in a field next to the Chilbolton Observatory in Hampshire, England. One is of a face, and many say that it looks like the archetypal "gray" alien so often seen in films and television.

    The second is a modified version of the 1974 Arecibo message, broadcast in the direction of the globular cluster M13 in November of that year.

    The Arecibo message, which was designed by Frank Drake (who was then Director of the Arecibo Observatory in Puerto Rico, and is now Chairman of the Board of the SETI Institute) together with his Observatory staff, was a simple graphic consisting of 73 rows of 23 "bits" per row. This number of rows and columns was chosen because each is a prime number. Prime numbers could be easily guessed by any recipients, and that would help them to decode the graphic.


    The message was sent by simple shifting of the signal between two frequencies in the 2,380 MHz band. It took three minutes to send the message.

    The message itself gives the kind of information that any culture would want to learn about us:
    • where we are located (at least within our solar system)
    • what we look like (a crude stick figure)
    • a simple drawing of the telescope used to send the message
    • something about our biological construction (DNA and some of the building blocks of our biochemistry)
    This message was sent as a "demonstration" to commemorate the upgrading of the 1,000 foot diameter Arecibo telescope with a new, more accurate reflector surface.

    The crop circle found in Hampshire looks very much like the one broadcast in 1974. But there are some differences: the Hampshire pattern has replaced the Arecibo Telescope with another graphic that is reminiscent of a space satellite with solar cells.


    The diagram that depicts our solar system has been replaced with another that still has nine worlds, but planets 3 through 5 are offset, and the last is drawn larger than the others (or perhaps this is a depiction of the four Galilean moons of Jupiter). Finally, the graphic of the human has been modified by a stick figure that, while humanoid, has a far larger head.

    Good fun, and a nice example of grain graffiti. But some folks think that this crop circle (and at least some of the more than a thousand other circles that have appeared in the last decade) are truly signals from visiting aliens.


    The aliens, in this view, have borrowed an idea from Carl Sagan's "Contact," and initiated communication by returning one of our own signals to us (albeit, somewhat modified.)

    This is highly improbable. There is no evidence to suggest an other-than-earthly origin for these graphics.


    Some of the reasons why we are skeptical that this is a "signal" from afar are as follows:

    1. The aliens, if they've received this signal, would obviously be aware of our capability to send and receive high-frequency radio. After all, they would only know of the 1974 transmission by receiving it. And, of course, they've made a point about radio by leaving their message next to a radio antenna. So why would they resort to an extraordinarily crude method of "replying" - carving simple messages in our wheat? Why don't they use radio?

      The wheat graffiti only conveys a handful of information - roughly the equivalent of a few sentences of any text. They could convey far more, in a matter of seconds, by radio. If radio isn't their thing, why don't they simply leave a copy of the Encyclopedia Galactica on the doorstep of either the farmer or the radio observatory?

      They could arrange for a radio blast sufficiently powerful to reach every FM or TV set in a hemisphere, which would quickly convey far more information, and to everyone at once. After all, if they're carving wheat, they're clearly visiting. If they're not fond of radio, they could leave information on paper, as a CD, or in whatever form is convenient. Any such scheme would convey orders of magnitude more information than a wheat carving.

      Surely aliens who can come to Hampshire are sophisticated enough to offer us more information bits than one can find on a fortune in a Chinese cookie.

    2. How come they look like us? Hollywood aliens always look pretty humanoid, but this is an anthropocentric conceit. Visit the local zoo, and you'll find critters that share 3.5 billion years of evolution and a lot of your DNA. But they don't look like you - they look like fish, or alligators, or…

    3. A very important point if you think this is a returned message: The 1974 signal was aimed at the cluster M13, which has hundreds of thousands of stars. Of course, M13 is 25,000 light-years distant, which means that the message will not reach its target for another 250 centuries. Clearly, the crop circle can't be a response from any of M13's inhabitants; they haven't gotten the message yet. But what about a random, Milky Way star that might be in the "beam" of the Arecibo message? Couldn't they have overheard the transmission, and offered this clever carving in reply? No.

      The Arecibo beam at 2,380 MHz is about 2 arc-minutes, which is roughly 1/15th the diameter of the full moon. That's an extremely narrow beam. Imagine shooting an arrow through a giant space in which ping pong balls are hung by threads. The ping pong balls are many miles apart. How long would the arrow have to travel before it accidentally hit one of these balls?

      This is analogous to the situation of the Arecibo message, moving in its tightly focused beam through the spaces of the Milky Way. The chances that it has hit another solar system in the 27 years since its broadcast are… one in 50,000, approximately. If you make the reasonable assumption that the aliens cannot travel faster than the speed of light, then they must lie within 13-1/2 light-years to have received this message and responded.

      The chances of a star system within the volume of space filled by the beam out to this distance is closer to one in a half-million! In other words, it's highly, highly unlikely that any star system has yet been exposed to the Arecibo message. This is an important point, as it is quantitative and not dependent on any other assumptions about this crop circle: no other star systems could have yet received this transmission.

      And incidentally, the odds that a nearby probe could have intercepted it are even smaller!

    4. The biochemistry information in the crop circle is the same as the Arecibo message, although the DNA seems to have an extra strand and a somewhat different number of nucleotides. It has also been noted that silicon is now indicated as part of the biological construction kit, although this element, while popular in science fiction, is rather poor at making the complex molecules required for life.

      Still, it's remarkable how similar the aliens' biology is to ours, even to the point of sporting a helical DNA molecule. They also use the same number of sugars and bases that make up human DNA to construct theirs. But it's remarkable (but undoubtedly a sign of a boo-boo on the constructors' part) that the silicon mentioned above doesn't figure into the formulae of any of these alien DNA components (this point was made by Randy Wiggins.) In addition, keep in mind that of the hundreds of possible amino acids, only 20 are used for earthly life. In other words our biochemistry is somewhat specific.

      How curious (and unlikely!) that theirs would match ours so closely!

    5. Finally, the whole matter of crop circles fails the baloney test, as Sagan would put it. They can be easily made by people interested in creating a stir (you can read a nice description of both crop circles and their construction, as well as a claim by experts in the field, as it were, that they could replicate the new grain graphics, at circle-makers.)

      And of importance, there is a lack of convincing physical evidence that anyone else has made them. You might also wonder why, despite its ample supply of wheat fields, the U.S. is almost never the target of this type of alien graphic: nearly two-thirds of all crop circles are in England. We also note that Chilbolton was the location of other crop circles in 1999 and 2000. Why would aliens resort to a signaling system that conveys so little information and can only be used during the two-month growth season, and then only at night?

      We are also informed by Chilbolton that these recent glyphs appeared (as so many do) after a weekend.
    Bottom line? The crop circles are decorative, impressive, and provocative, but not informative.

    We can expect better from true extraterrestrial intelligence.
    Originally posted at: http:/www.seti.org/general/ao_message_crop.html

    I tend to agree that contact, once made will be indisputable and quite obvious to the whole world.

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    Quote Posted by Richard (here)
    I still tend to believe the event was of special significance. Perhaps it was a real reply..or perhaps not.
    However SETI thought differently at the time and their rebuff was logical. The statement they made is no longer on their website however www.seti.org/general/ao_message_crop.html is still available in the WayBackMachine.



    Originally posted at: http:/www.seti.org/general/ao_message_crop.html

    I tend to agree that contact, once made will be indisputable and quite obvious to the whole world.
    hey, thanks for the cool find...

    indeed the statement issued out by SETI does cover themselves somewhat which is understandable and logical in itself...as well as their reasoning for it not being a genuine reply.
    the imaginative child like side of me wants to believe this was a genuine reply and it would be proper cool if it was....
    my idea on how contact or official contact would/could take place slants towards a more personal experience. a knowing perhaps that everybody shall experience....i personally cant see a meet and greet scenario on the presidents lawn for example, or a fleet of ufos being filmed for the world to see on via the bbc, fox, cnn or any of the other disney channels.
    the real ''disclosure'' will take place personal level imo...as it already has for some people...

    crop circles in general i find fantasically interesting tho....

    peace always
    mike
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    Default Re: The Chilbolton Event

    I hope i don't rain on your parade loves,

    but the grey face with the binary code is thought to be a hoax. Colin Andrews states that the movie "Signs" came out at the same time, so its thought to be a publicity stunt.

    Contrary to what circle makers tell you, however, they are not ALL fakes.

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    Quote Posted by kriya (here)
    I hope i don't rain on your parade loves,

    but the grey face with the binary code is thought to be a hoax. Colin Andrews states that the movie "Signs" came out at the same time, so its thought to be a publicity stunt.

    Contrary to what circle makers tell you, however, they are not ALL fakes.

    Love,

    Kriya
    ....captivating story nonetheless tho eh....

    no worries....rain is most welcome on my parade...

    peace always
    mike

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    Default Re: The Chilbolton Event

    For me, crop circles are interesting and maddening. I'm curious and open-minded but I just have a hard time belieing they are extraterrestrial in origin. I'm not saying I think they are all man made, I just think visitors from afar would use some other means to communicate with us. Of course, they could just be toying with us. I just don't know. But they are beautiful!

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    Default Re: The Chilbolton Event

    The grey face holding the circular coded item can be traced back to a logo from years ago that looks almost exactly like it. Hoax.

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    Default Re: The Chilbolton Event

    Maybe, just maybe, ET used an image known to us ,one in which we relate to them.......

    I dont believe every circle is man made, nor do I believe every circle is ET made, but whoever creates them, they are amazingly
    beautiful works of art
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