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    Question Will UFO Disclosure End Capitalism?

    I am posting this interview to in the hope of starting a conversation on the effects of NTI disclosure on all of humanity's isms not just capitalism, marxism & communism.

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    A.M Gitlittz | Will UFO Disclosure End Captialism?

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    MJ Banias welcomes freelance writer & independant researcher A.M Gitlittz for a discussion with this question in mind: If disclosure on a Non Human Intelligence took place tomorrow what would happen to the systems of capitalism, marxism & communism.

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    Default Re: Will UFO Disclosure End Capitalism?

    A simple analogy to consider: any kind of 'disclosure' would be like dropping a HUGE rock into a pond already full of dirty, choppy water, and a bunch of toxic trash as well as many remarkable, beautiful creatures all still surviving there.

    Far bigger waves would slosh around for a long time before settling down into anything resembling calm — or a pond in which the entire system was in healthier balance. It might take many years before the outcome was a better world, though a better world has to be a possibility in the end.

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    Ideas like this have been here forever but human species and society have their own, unique pace of evolution of thought, themselves and everything and no one and nothing has ever changed that overnight.

    Advanced ET civilisations have visited and been present on this planet number of times through out its history and all they’ve encountered so far is state of division, war for opinions, information and resources. Deep state of chaos, divide and conquer.
    It does not mean to say that there aren’t or have not been advanced human groups, nations or whole civilisations who aimed to resonate with universal ethical principles but they are/we are in minority compared to the larger whole.

    There are no non-capitalist nations or governments on this planet, in my opinion, since all of them are part of the “human trade war” and generally aim to capitalise on own and others valuable resources and achievements.

    No matter what kind of information, technology or principle is introduced to the human continuum someone will try to capitalise on it, sell it or simply make use of it to their own advantage.

    Other ideologies quoted never worked because the very existence of self-less and sovereign human being is aspirational idea, peak of many spiritual paths but hardly an average factor in human society.

    It’s sad but true factography of human landscape and lasting fight between “good” and “evil” the duality of which prevents peace, transparency and truth to be disclosed in open.
    It can not be done forcefully or by any trick or trigger. The path/return from human- instinct, fear dependant entity to humane, love and peace based entity may take millions of years for mankind.


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    Default Re: Will UFO Disclosure End Capitalism?

    I think that the next "threat" to capitalism would be Computer Intelligence. At some point, it may be up to computers to determine what you can own, what you can have, where you should live, work and travel etc. Right now, with currency becoming nothing but digits in a computer system, you choices are limited to how much you can spend (quantitative matters). At some point, the system could change to address qualitative matters , telling you that even though you have the credit (money) you can only spend it in certain areas, based on what it determined your needs are, and how to make you a better cog in the wheel of civilization. Of course we will all wonder who is controlling the computer algorithm and how much better are they making out. That is, we could still have the type of cronyism you see in either Soviet Communism or in Western Bilderberg-CFR-CIA influenced capitalism.

    My hunch is that disclosure could bring a certain amount of anarchy. People might rebel against "the system", whether that system is capitalism or socialism (and I see most nations are on the spectrum between these two ideals). Of course, out of anarchy often comes a new system. Will it be a fair and equitable one, or one controlled, as usual in human civilization, by a small band of elites, who manipulate the world for their own agenda and benefit? If disclosure teaches us enough about cronyism, will humanity be smart enough or not to accept a new system that dissolves the world of it's band of oligarchs?

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    Default Re: Will UFO Disclosure End Capitalism?

    I’m not sure which will end which first - will disclosure end capitalism, or will capitalism end disclosure.



    If my assessments are correct, one of these ideas is on the way out, and the other on the way in. Slowly, like glaciers melting while pools fill with warm, Aquarian waters.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    A simple analogy to consider: any kind of 'disclosure' would be like dropping a HUGE rock into a pond already full of dirty, choppy water, and a bunch of toxic trash as well as many remarkable, beautiful creatures all still surviving there.

    Far bigger waves would slosh around for a long time before settling down into anything resembling calm — or a pond in which the entire system was in healthier balance. It might take many years before the outcome was a better world, though a better world has to be a possibility in the end.
    If you have watch the Eric Mitchell video, He said about disclosure being done ala weathering style its like dropping the Huge rock very slowly in the pond. No disturbances at all and the elite will still be in control afterwards. Pretty logical to me. Although I see their control weathering away. So there might be no need for disclosure to end isms. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ltiple-UFO...&

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    I think if true disclosure were to take place it might be the release of the 'log jam' in terms of technologies which have already been developed; if cold fusion and other fusion-based energy production techniques were seriously executed on it might alter the balance of power.
    The present political dynamic is certainly based on hydrocarbon energy.
    I have been following a young scientist in recent years, he runs a channel on YouTube called "AlienScientist" and recently he has embarked on a quest to uncover what is going on among the Black Projects community.
    Power in our society is very closely linked with energy, and the cost of energy. If full disclosure were to take place, gravitic and fusion energy would emerge, suddenly the basis of currency would shift.
    The global economy would need to shift, people would have access to a form of wealth that has never been worked with before.
    This would need to be gradually implemented, disclosure will change many things-energy would be the cause.
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