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    Default Re: Fatal shootings at Christchurch Mosques in New Zealand

    Signs of a planned event, from a lot ‘higher’ than the left, IMO.



    The cover page of the manifesto.


    Last page of manifesto.


    The Black Sun, adopted by Neo-Nazis, but dig a little deeper into that occult symbol.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sun_(symbol)
    https://www.cia.gov/library/center-f...o-america.html

    Tarrant in court.
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    Default Re: Fatal shootings at Christchurch Mosques in New Zealand

    I don’t know how to save this clip and it might go missing, posting it here for you guys to watch in case it does. They arrested four people, released one, one was Tarrant and one of the others has been charged with “intent to excite hostility or ill-will.”. No further details are being given at this time on the one who was charged with intent to excite and there has been no details released on the third one still in custody.

    According to the Twitter thread linked below, police were reporting three active shooters early on. The clip shows two armed men, neither look like Tarrant (he was alone during 7 mins of livestream and not wearing a cap) and neither look like cops. Could be nothing (they might report the other two as armed) but it’s odd, here’s the thread beginning with the clip: https://mobile.twitter.com/williamcr...89907952406528

    BTW, the three sixes hand sign Tarrant did in court is being reported as a white power sign...


    Stills from clip.





    Hard to see with stills but arrows are pointing to their rifles. Note their clothes and bags, not cops.



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    Quote Posted by witchy1 (here)
    Terribly sad days for Kiwis. It is difficult to even begin to understand what drives these actions - let alone way down in the antipodes. I mean why here?

    What s known is that he was a white Supremisist. Initial reports state he was very well prepared (over 2 years in preparation) and really well financed given his cache of weapons.

    Now I know reports at the time of such actions can get confused and mis-reported - however i just wanted to record these 2 things somewhere.....

    Remember the 2 mosques were just 10 mins apart
    It was reported that a perpetrator was shot dead by someone in the smaller mosque. If this is true it means at least someone at the mosque was armed (prepared)and perhaps expecting something and

    A lady on the news said that they knew of the plans as she had read them on facebook. This means they were advised.

    Neither of these comments have been repeated - so it could have been a misreporting (or the gag orders) I did note that at question time with the police commissioner - he was asked about the face book notice and they were investigating it. (so they know) I have to say the lady was very matter-of-fact. It aired on TV1

    What on earth was Podesta doing here Clarity??

    If I hear of anything report worthy I will post it.... and If I can track links will let you know. NZ is a small place - Its so nice to have somewhere safe to post :-)

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    I also thought it as if someone at the mosque had heard there might be an attack, if so how sad. Many people in NZ have guns but its really for hunting or farming, no one would carry a gun for their day to day chores.

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    This very disturbing German article lays out how Neonazis in Germany's and Austria's army, police and special forces are preparing kill lists for day X, and how the NZ assassin is connected to them:

    https://derstandard.at/2000099600939...scher-Soldaten

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    Quote In chats, right-wing extremists are preparing for "Day X". The traces lead to Vienna, the assassins of Christchurch linked to articles on right-wing extremists in the Bundeswehr On February 3, 2017 takes one of the most bizarre criminal cases of recent years its course. Franco A., a soldier of the German Bundeswehr, is arrested at Vienna airport when he wants to get a loaded weapon from a hiding place in the disabled toilet. When the suspect is checked, the officials discover that he was registered as a Syrian refugee in Germany with a second identity. In a house search they find death lists and obviously preparations for a terrorist attack, the German A. supposedly wanted to perform as a Syrian refugee. What nobody suspected back then: Franco A. is just one part of a right-wing extremist network of active and former soldiers and policemen exchanging views on Day X in chat groups - the day the state order collapses. If you follow their footsteps, you end up at an association for former elite soldiers, at the German constitutional protection, a curious order of knights in Austria - and at the local Ministry of Defense, as shown by research by STANDARD, Taz and Schweizer WOZ. At the center of the network is a former German elite soldier named André S., better known as "Hannibal". Together with a constitutional protector, he founded the association Uniter, which offers security services and is globally networked. In addition, he was the administrator of secret chat groups, where soldiers, police and security staff talked about "safe houses", threat scenarios and escape routes. Such a chat group also existed for Austria, as testimonies of German investigators reveal. Some members of the chat groups stole weapons and ammunition from the inventory of the Bundeswehr and put on a folder with enemy lists of politicians and people from the left scene. On Day X, these people were then to be rammed together, smuggled past roadblocks and eliminated, a witness said to the German investigators. The right-wing extremists in the German Bundeswehr knew about the assassins of New Zealand, who murdered 49 people in two mosques on Friday. A suspected terrorist who wrote the notorious manifesto, linked on Wednesday to two articles of the German broadcaster "Deutsche Welle", in which in 2017 about by Franco A. and other right-wing extremists was reported. At that time, although it was known that the German Bundeswehr has a big problem with right-wing extremism in its own ranks - that Franco A. and others exchanged on secret chat groups, but was later revealed. It is still unclear whether the New Zealand suspected assassins have also perceived this information. In any case, in his manifesto, the alleged terrorist writes that there are hundreds of thousands of nationalist soldiers in Europe's army. From Viennese balls and pistols Back to Franco A .: In February 2017, the soldier traveled to Vienna for the second time within a few days. A few days before his arrest, he and his friends had visited the officers' ball. In his interrogation he states that he found a pistol during a tour of Vienna in a bush. He slept with the pistol with his friend Maurice R., who lives in the seventh district. After his overnight stay Franco A. allegedly discovered before the security check at Vienna airport that he had still inserted the weapon. He panicked and hid her on the disabled toilet, then left. On February 3, the day of the Akademikerballs, A. returned to Vienna. The pistol had been found in the meantime by a cleaning lady, the police had installed a video trap. When A. wants to take back the pistol, he is arrested. The affair takes its course, investigators discover a widespread network in the German-speaking area, which also leads to Vienna. At least a dozen people are active in the chat groups, and detailed information is not public. When questioned about the case, German investigators repeatedly ask whether witnesses know Franco A.'s Viennese host Maurice R. The Austrian authorities carry out a search warrant in Vienna at the request of their German counterparts. R. is well connected in Vienna: the former German Bundeswehr soldier studies psychology, and he goes around in fraternity circles. Its environment also includes two employees of the Austrian Ministry of Defense. He is also known with the Gudenus family. A photo, which is the STANDARD shows Maurice R. and Clemens Gudenus, brother of FPÖ club boss Johann Gudenus and currently FPÖ district politician in Vienna-Wieden, sitting together on a couch. Clemens Gudenus tells the STANDARD that Maurice R. is "just one of 2800 Facebook friends". He did not know Franco A. Parallel to the house search in Vienna, the members of the secret chat groups try to clear their tracks. When André S., Hannibal, learns that the media report the allegations against Franco A., a member of the South chat group, he gives the order to delete all chats. That says S. to German investigators. He wanted to prevent so that officials, soldiers and judges in the chat groups carry professional damage. Who is this ominous "Hannibal"? André S. has long been an "informant" of the Military Shielding Service in Germany (MAD). The MAD is the German equivalent of the Army Defense Office, which is exactly the institution that should take care of anti-constitutional tendencies within the military. Before the district court Cologne begins on Wednesday a process against Hannibals contact man with the MAD. He is accused of having warned "Hannibal" of upcoming raids. "Rescue Camps Abroad" This is not the only connection that shows that "Hannibal's Shadow Network" seems to be linked to the very authorities that were supposed to be trying to clear up its activities. The taz has this week uncovered that an official of the Baden-Württemberg State Office for Constitutional Protection founding member of the Association was Uniter. Also "Hannibal" was until last week vice chairman of the association, according to research of the NZZ, he is still in the presidency. The association Uniter should help former elite soldiers to find their way back to "real life". The association, founded in 2012, networks them with police officers and other persons from the "security industry". Externally, he promotes charitable activities, but at the same time he builds up a department "Defense". Officially, Uniter denies having anything to do with the prepper scene; So with those people who are preparing militarily or organizationally for a horror scenario. But in a newsletter to its members four years ago Uniter already spoke of "Auffangcamps abroad" and other means to prepare themselves. As the Taz reports this weekend, Uniter is trying to gain a foothold worldwide as a service provider in the security industry. Club members offer training for security forces as well as for civilians - such as in the Philippines, where forces of authoritarian President Rodrigo Duterte have been instructed by Uniter. Knighted in Austria Who follows the association Uniter, lands soon in Austria. Uniter was as a whole club member of a pseudo knightly order called Lazarus Union, which has its seat on the castle Kreuzenstein near Vienna. Hannibal, André S., was also knighted himself. A video shows how he took part in an investiture in the Theresian Military Academy Wiener Neustadt last year in the presence of Lower Austria's Governor Erwin Pröll (ÖVP) and former Defense Minister Werner Fasslabend (ÖVP). In this ceremony the gentlemen had to swear by their honor on the guiding principles of the Lazarus Union and assure them of their corps spirit. André S. is, according to the club register vice-president of the Lazarus Union. The Lazarus Union acts as a charitable organization and has special advisory status with the United Nations. The Swiss branch of Uniter emphasizes in a press release to be internationally active in the context of UN mandates, and refers to the Swiss WOZ on the Lazarus Union. The President of the Lazarus Union, Wolfgang Steinhardt, emphasizes to the STANDARD that his organization has no UN mandates and denies any activities by or with Unites. "Until the allegations are exhausted," Steinhardt put the group membership of Uniter and Hannibal's function as Vice President two weeks ago dormant. But what moves an association that, according to its statutes, is committed to veterans from special units and builds clandestine paramilitary structures at home and abroad to become a prominent member of an Austrian knightly order? Uniter gives no answer to this request on the STANDARD. Even for joint projects they wanted to "for the mutual protection of members" make no statements. appeared on the arms fair Enforcetek in Nuremberg with a name tag - at the booth of an Austrian company, the High Profile Protection GmbH from Carinthia. The linked under the name "Tacticalbros" on Facebook again and again to Uniter. Company manager Klaus Anton Stöckl denies the request of the STANDARD to get involved with Uniter. André S., "Hannibal", was offered a "platform" at the stand at the fair to promote a coffee called Black Ops Coffee. This coffee, which "should taste very good", you have even in use. There are no connections to Uniter, whose members are merely potential customers. Tacticalbros offers besides different weapons also "trainings". For about a week in Slovakia "absolutely best training for snipers and spotters" with instructors who are according to description veterans of the special forces and NATO. About Uniter even events have been organized in Austria. However, the association does not want to do anything about partners "for reasons of data protection". The club keeps posting photos from Austria, for example about the departure of a Eurofighter. Uniter is currently led by the German Attorney General as an observation process. The protection of the constitution in the German state of Baden-Württemberg, where Uniter is based, precluded an observation for the time being. The German Greens and the Left Party now fear that the authorities again wanted to cover up a right-wing network, such as the terrorist group NSU. Austria's authorities are also covered. The Ministry of Defense says only that "all developments within and outside Austria are observed, which could affect the security of the Armed Forces". The Ministry of the Interior states that one does not take a stand on "ongoing proceedings". The shadow network and its members remain hidden in this country. It is not known, for example, whether the local authorities have received the minutes of the secret chat group for Austria or know who their members were. It is only known that the German members want to flee to the south on day X - in the direction of the Alps.
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    Default Re: Fatal shootings at Christchurch Mosques in New Zealand

    This event has many of the earmarks of a false flag, except that the perpetrator is still alive. The fact that the New Zealand Prime Minister is ready to tighten gun laws clearly demonstrates to me that this was a planned event, probably by the powers that be to rid another country of guns owned by its citizens. In Australia, when the Port Arthur Massacre occurred in Tasmania, a low IQ patsy was chosen - Martin Bryant - and he was locked away without a trial by jury, and forced to confess after six months of solitary confinement. He remains in jail at this time, a real perversion of justice. In Australia at that time the law to change gun rights had already been written, and the photos of Martin Bryant in the press were all photo-shopped to make him look like a monster.

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    Default Re: Fatal shootings at Christchurch Mosques in New Zealand

    Mosque attack hero 'saved many more lives by grabbing terrorist's gun'
    Yahoo News UK Yahoo News UK 1 hour 37 minutes ago

    New Zealand is still reeling from the worst mass shooting in its history

    A story of true heroism is emerging from the horrific terror attacks on innocent Muslims in New Zealand.

    A gunman opened fire on worshippers in two mosques in Christchurch, killing 49 people.

    The atrocities took place in Masjid Al Noor mosque, where at least 41 people were killed and another seven were shot dead inside the suburban Linwood Masjid Mosque. One person died in hospital.

    However, witnesses have described how many more lives could have been lost, if not for the courage of a worker at Linwood Mosque.

    A young mosque worker risked his own life to challenge the gunman and try to snatch his weapon, according to attack survivor Syed Mazharuddin.

    He said up to 70 people were praying inside Linwood when gunshots were heard.

    “Just around the entrance door there were elderly people sitting there praying and he just started shooting at them“, Mazharuddin told Sky.

    He described seeing a woman shout “help”, before being shot in the face at point blank range.

    “At just that moment, there was one young guy who usually takes care of the mosque and helps with parking and other stuff, so (the man) saw an opportunity and he pounced over to him and grabbed his gun.
    People gather at a memorial to pay tribute to victims of the mosque attacks outside Masjid Al Noor in Christchurch, New Zealand, March 16, 2019. REUTERS/Jorge Silva

    “The hero tried to chase and he couldn’t find the trigger in the gun… he ran behind him but there were people waiting for him in the car and he fled.”

    The mosque worker is yet to be named, though a number of onlookers told similar accounts of a young man creeping up behind the shooter and “hold him until his gun dropped”.

    A second survivor, Faisal Sayed, said: “If that hadn’t happened, many more would have died and I wouldn’t be here now.”

    Following the horrendous massacre, a 28-year-old Australian man, Brenton Tarrant, has been charged with murder.

    Tarrant reportedly made a ‘white power’ hand gesture during his court appearance. He has been remanded in custody until April 5 and police have said more charges are likely to follow.

    Officers arrested two others following the attacks and are currently working to establish whether they had any involvement in the terror attacks against the Muslim community in New Zealand.

    New Zealand prime minister Jacinda Ardern has said that gun laws will be reformed after the attacks, as legislation allowed the suspect the legally obtain a semi-automatic weapon."

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    Quote Posted by Builder (here)
    This very disturbing German article lays out how Neonazis in Germany's and Austria's army, police and special forces are preparing kill lists for day X, and how the NZ assassin is connected to them:

    https://derstandard.at/2000099600939...scher-Soldaten

    Yes there’s racial war going on and under the surface on this planet, more terrible and more extensive than we have ever estimated.
    It’s a phenomenon that needs global readdressing and education( more education for every child and adult on this planet, please ), even then it will take number of generations to overcome.

    There’s racial also ethnic also nationalistic awareness and identity so also absence of identity filled often by fear and hatred.
    Anyone trying to deny it and being blind to the phenomenon because your friends on alternative media seem to “love everybody the same” are likewise naive, foolish and ignorant.

    Of all things if you don’t understand that ethnical and racial hatred have been here as long as human kind had been here on this planet because human species was biologically diverse, that is varied that reads multi racial right from the beginning since similar entities evolved in diverse biotopes and environment but due to their low numbers at start lived scattered and apart from each other for long enough - hundreds of thousands of years in some cases - to evolve isolated sense of racial, tribal - social- ethnical and cultural identity defining them often as the “only ones” on the Planet.

    It’s not the CIA or the KGB or Mossad who invented this phenomenon. Don’t be blind and deaf and listen to your friends in the suburbs and how people talk of each other in families.
    I don’t dare to make percentual estimate here but despite the “I love all to sound right” manifestos there’s lots and lots of underlying hatred called racism among u and u and about everyone else.
    If there was not we would not need all these hard core and steel borders between Japan and Koreas and China and India and Pakistan and Iran and Afghanistan and Turkey and the EU and the UK and the US and Mexico ( not that I forgot of the rest).

    It’s not simple phenomenon because it’s not evolved simple way and it’s in your blood and genes where it evolved and circulated for couple millions of years or one hundred thousand and I can assure you that ALL of these people are very ancient and of noble descent and erm..most do not remember they’ve /we have been here earlier than human divergence and diversity occurred.

    The only thing most people remember so acutely is their own blood line and of their tribe/ethnic group/race.

    Arabian culture was once the most advanced culture on the planet, so true also for the Chinese and the Egyptians. Don’t forget that most of the Mayans once the most advanced are gone by now and Tibetans are on the leave ..
    together with hundreds of Native Indian tribes and who you call aboriginal tribes around the world who are poor remnant of advanced civilisations that lived before the very last or two planetary cataclysm.
    After the next planetary cataclysm the most advanced civilisation here too will be gone, together with its achievements and downfalls for they’re frail even if they seem to scream to Stars.

    What will remain of your so cherished “white race” than bunch of savages, the best of who had the intuition and information enabling them to survive.
    In case of nuclear catastrophy we all will be ashy black for ten thousand years.

    If you consider yourself civilised human being of noble descent and integrity please learn and study about the other people who live here and lived here long ago.
    With folded hands I beg you, study about others not your plot of island alone 🙏🌟🙏

    Only understanding can bridge fear and hatred. Do not propagate weapons instead and blindly agree with ignorant friends who claim they have the recipe for fast solution.

    This planet isn’t black and white. It’s multispectral, colourful planet orbiting young B class star that periodically turns everything to dust, anyway.
    Don’t try to make it lifeless here please by producing more weapons and propagating them as your solution to life.

    Learn the beauty of diversity, embrace the differences. If everyone looked the same this world would be sick and boring, in my opinion.
    It would die off long ago for genetic vulnerability.


    Sorry for the rant



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    Default Re: Fatal shootings at Christchurch Mosques in New Zealand

    Just a thought, considering the last mass shooting in New Zealand was in 1990, that is 29 years ago, it proves that Kiwi have been responsible with their guns for all this time and the current laws are effective.

    This terrible event was committed by a foreigner an "Australian" visiting New Zealand" "and not a Kiwi".

    Therefore the solution to this is not a matter of revised gun laws but of better screening of visitors to New Zealand.


    Astonishingly there is already a wikipedia page covering this event.
    Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christ...sque_shootings
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    Default Re: Fatal shootings at Christchurch Mosques in New Zealand

    Quote Posted by Agape (here)
    Quote Posted by Builder (here)
    This very disturbing German article lays out how Neonazis in Germany's and Austria's army, police and special forces are preparing kill lists for day X, and how the NZ assassin is connected to them:

    https://derstandard.at/2000099600939...scher-Soldaten

    Yes there’s racial war going on and under the surface on this planet, more terrible and more extensive than we have ever estimated.
    It’s a phenomenon that needs global readdressing and education( more education for every child and adult on this planet, please ), even then it will take number of generations to overcome.

    There’s racial also ethnic also nationalistic awareness and identity so also absence of identity filled often by fear and hatred.
    Anyone trying to deny it and being blind to the phenomenon because your friends on alternative media seem to “love everybody the same” are likewise naive, foolish and ignorant.

    Of all things if you don’t understand that ethnical and racial hatred have been here as long as human kind had been here on this planet because human species was biologically diverse, that is varied that reads multi racial right from the beginning since similar entities evolved in diverse biotopes and environment but due to their low numbers at start lived scattered and apart from each other for long enough - hundreds of thousands of years in some cases - to evolve isolated sense of racial, tribal - social- ethnical and cultural identity defining them often as the “only ones” on the Planet.

    It’s not the CIA or the KGB or Mossad who invented this phenomenon. Don’t be blind and deaf and listen to your friends in the suburbs and how people talk of each other in families.
    I don’t dare to make percentual estimate here but despite the “I love all to sound right” manifestos there’s lots and lots of underlying hatred called racism among u and u and about everyone else.
    If there was not we would not need all these hard core and steel borders between Japan and Koreas and China and India and Pakistan and Iran and Afghanistan and Turkey and the EU and the UK and the US and Mexico ( not that I forgot of the rest).

    It’s not simple phenomenon because it’s not evolved simple way and it’s in your blood and genes where it evolved and circulated for couple millions of years or one hundred thousand and I can assure you that ALL of these people are very ancient and of noble descent and erm..most do not remember they’ve /we have been here earlier than human divergence and diversity occurred.

    The only thing most people remember so acutely is their own blood line and of their tribe/ethnic group/race.

    Arabian culture was once the most advanced culture on the planet, so true also for the Chinese and the Egyptians. Don’t forget that most of the Mayans once the most advanced are gone by now and Tibetans are on the leave ..
    together with hundreds of Native Indian tribes and who you call aboriginal tribes around the world who are poor remnant of advanced civilisations that lived before the very last or two planetary cataclysm.
    After the next planetary cataclysm the most advanced civilisation here too will be gone, together with its achievements and downfalls for they’re frail even if they seem to scream to Stars.

    What will remain of your so cherished “white race” than bunch of savages, the best of who had the intuition and information enabling them to survive.
    In case of nuclear catastrophy we all will be ashy black for ten thousand years.

    If you consider yourself civilised human being of noble descent and integrity please learn and study about the other people who live here and lived here long ago.
    With folded hands I beg you, study about others not your plot of island alone 🙏🌟🙏

    Only understanding can bridge fear and hatred. Do not propagate weapons instead and blindly agree with ignorant friends who claim they have the recipe for fast solution.

    This planet isn’t black and white. It’s multispectral, colourful planet orbiting young B class star that periodically turns everything to dust, anyway.
    Don’t try to make it lifeless here please by producing more weapons and propagating them as your solution to life.

    Learn the beauty of diversity, embrace the differences. If everyone looked the same this world would be sick and boring, in my opinion.
    It would die off long ago for genetic vulnerability.


    Sorry for the rant



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    Beautifully crafted and yet you seemed to have miss the whole point. If you revisit old threads you'll see that many people including me do not have racial hatred which you seem to imply as natural to all people. Yes the mossad and cia did not invent it they simply add loads of fuel to it trying very hard to make it appear to be the norms. If you consider a family as an example of relationship and is the smallest of "so above is below" then you'll have a picture of loving people around the globe. Racial hatred is invented and promoted by those who have a dubious agenda its a pity you subscribe to it.

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    In response to Bubu and the rest of “who are you talking for”: NO, I most certainly do not subscribe to any sort of racial discrimination and even hatred.
    Thousand times no Bubu.
    I’ve lived happily among many different people and ethnics than where the “crane dropped me” originally, happily means with pride of entity free of any such predicaments and treated as equal BUT I do know well how racial discrimination feels, as first, second, third etc hand experiencer as well.
    It’s hurtful, disgusting and humiliating.

    Please either reread my post with level of empathy and thoughtfulness or do not read but saying that my post is somehow “crafted” tells yourself off: perhaps you’re spending your most valuable days and nights in the virtual world of internet alone where you can pick and choose your content and perhaps - I suggest- you’ve missed the whole context of my post.

    I speak of real people we are meeting on all walks of life, I speak of real physical borders and reality of our human life here.

    Saying it’s somehow crafted hurts me and my conscience but believe me: I’m not my best judge and if my post can be read so badly I’d better remove it than argue.

    There’s no attack present anywhere in my post on anyone or any kind of people or community.

    There’s my passion and call for Unity of all Beings and stopping bloodsheds.

    Debating conspiracy theory you can endlessly and especially, on the web.

    In real time and if you travel to many different countries you get the taste rather, of how nationalistic and other prejudice feel like to an individual .

    As I said, if this thread is meant to remain low vibe and conspiracy chit chat then sorry my post is too deep to be understood and better deleted. But nowhere you have the right to call my reality observation crafted.


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    P.S.: I’m trying to tune myself down, on that matter but I don’t know if that’s right either.
    I will explain if you wish. Most recently I’ve travelled around the globe because I had to, for about two years. This site supports free speech so allow me to be honest about my observations, please.
    The most free I ever felt was in the US and in Americas, generally. It took many generations of people there to overcome racial discrimination there and they still do have problems with it but at least, I mean, they do give each other equal rights and treatment, usually.
    I spent 3 months recently in Finland and I totally love the people and pure environment. But almost every second day I’ve heard from the very educated person having me about how much “migration problem” costs them and how different all these colorful people are and how they should go home.
    The only reason I was told those things privately anyway is my dam pale face.

    I’ve left there with the same awareness and if all those colorful people aren’t welcome unless they can bleach and speak another language without mistake I’d feel forever in odds.

    It’s the same for me even in so called country of my origin, hearing that they only want to live with the same people who they are. No, deeply no, I do not hate anybody and never did.

    It’s dirty prejudice taught wrongly by even many esoteric groups and generally, human adults worldwide and there are few erroneous theories running about it if you ever encounter them. But they’re for real and do undermine mindsets of many human societies.

    I lived in India and in Tibetan monastery for two decades on and off and consider India my home, really because I have experienced the most love and knowing from people there.
    At the same time and if any of the nationalism and racism grows over people’s heads the discrimination towards anyone of other ethnicity is painful debt to the fact of being also human.

    What I’m saying is love your neighbors. As children do for it is pain free and most natural. Do not judge people for being sun tanned or pale, their eye color and shape of their nose.
    It’s all I’m saying and will repeat it to every individual as many times as necessary if necessary. I’m not suspecting anyone here of wrongdoing(?).
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    Brendon O'Connell: Mosque Shooter Was Professionally Trained

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    Brenton Terrant was no amateur gun nut. He displayed complete cold detachment when murdering 39 human beings in the first Mosque. No fear, no heavy breathing, no excitement. Just cool and calm. When driving to the second location he calmly states that if he had got to the Mosque a bit later he would have gotten more women.

    Regardless, on viewing his self-made horror movie, the most glaring "fact" is the "fact" he is no amateur.


    Source: Watch on Vimeo


    -------------------------------------------------------

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    The guy was clearly trained. No if's, no buts. He was cool as a cucumber. He has done this before. The way he would reload - step back in the narrow hallway so there was less chance of being jumped as he reloaded.

    He is totally confident.

    The video is very disturbing, especially the young Muslim woman on the ground in front of the Mosque whimpering "Help me! Help me!" He blew the top of her head off.

    You do not handle an AR15, military-style semi-automatic assault rifle like that unless you have trained to clear jams and misfires in the efficient manner he displays. He darts back into cover, out of the expansive prayer hall into a narrow hallway to change magazines - this is not something you do naturally. This is military training. House clearing - to make it harder to be attacked while changing magazines.

    It is impossible to obtain an AR15 style assault rifle in Australia. Even a well connected organised crime figure would have trouble and you would immediately risk being on the "police radar" if you tried. So where did he train in their operation, tactics and handling? He was not long in New Zealand. He cannot buy firearms in New Zealand as an Australian citizen. Who brought them for him? Who supplied them? It is legal to own the AR15 he used and semi-automatic shotguns with the appropriate hunting licenses. Some claim his AR15 magazines were illegal 30 round.

    In the dock, he looks 5ft 4inches. Muscular. He looks special forces - small and powerful. How they like them. Traveled extensively. Especially in Europe. Claimed he was a simple working class lad - made his money investing in crypto, ie: he's a drug dealer. Absolutely he is. I knew a guy who worked security in Palestine when Arafat had casinos. He had no military training. He learned on the job. That's where I think that guy has come from. They claim he was in Pakistan, who knows. I just know what I saw in that video.

    He espouses a multitude of this-and-that politics claiming communist then anarchist, then libertarian and now he is not sure BUT he mentioned Mao and he draws from Julius Evola and "Sacred Tradition" which was Hitler's favourite book and Steve Bannon's too. Even though drawing from pure National Socialist water wells, the word "Jew" or "Jewish" never leaves his lips.

    He was playing Serbian Chetnik folk music at one stage which the Chechens would play as they fought the Croatian fascists.

    What a grab bag. I smell Bi Bi Henry. Who benefits? BiBi is about to make his own shooting video in Syria.

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    "I am not going to post the link because I do not want to promote this act of violence."

    The actual footage is on https://www.brighteon.com the footage goes for about 7.19 minutes.

    I have watched parts of it and it is horrendous to see Brenton Terrant in action, he is organised, cold and efficient.

    Herve post above reaffirms what I had seen.
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    Always curious to me that with surveillance such as it is (and 5 eyes and international cooperation in data sharing), able to read the serial number off a coin from space, all calls and emails surveilled, that these things that require so much planning continue to happen. Hmmm..methinks it stinks.

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    I'm sorry to report that the death toll has now risen to 50. Many still remain in critical condition.

    My thoughts & prayers.

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    Found this on rmn...
    A witness video shows there are at least 2 shooters in the Christchurch attack.

    Https://mobile.twitter.com/ViralVide...Fread%3D119350

    https://twitter.com/HenryMakow/statu...72359208034304

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    From Sputnik news they have attempted to decipher what was written on the rifle and gear.

    A photo which appears to show the gunman's rifle has been circulated on social media. Who Are the People Whose Names New Zealand Mosque Shooter Scrawled on His Gun?

    Scrawled on the Rifle

    'Here's Your Migration Compact!' refers to the much-criticised non-binding UN agreement that seeks to establish a common global approach to international migration.

    John Hunyadi was a Hungarian military leader who ruled the country between 1446 and 1456 and led the national struggle against the Turks.

    '14 Words' (the number is repainted in several places on the ammo) is a nod to the 14-word white supremacist slogan derived from Adolf Hitler's Mein Kampf: "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children".

    'Tours 732' refers to the Battle of Tours in 732. Frankish military leader Charles Martel pushed back the last Arab invasion of Western Europe.

    'Turkofagos' ('Turk-eater' in Greek) was the nickname of Nikitas Stamatelopoulos, one of the main heroes of the Greek War of Independence waged by revolutionaries against the Ottomans between 1821 and 1829.

    On the other side of the stock, there's also a marking reading 'Anton Lundin Pettersson' — the attacker who fatally stabbed a teaching assistant and a student and wounded two other people in what police described as a racially charged incident. He later succumbed to the gunshot wounds he received during his apprehension.

    'Marco Antonio Bragadin', also written on the other side, refers to a Venetian commander who led the resistance to the Ottoman conquest in 1570 and was eventually killed by the Turks.


    Scrawled on the Gear

    Josur Estrbanez was a then-22-year-old Spanish neo-Nazi who fatally stabbed 16-year-old anti-fascist protester in 2007. He was sentenced to 26 years in prison two years later.

    Milos Obilic was a semi-legendary knight who is said to have killed Ottoman sultan Murad I in the Battle of Kosovo in 1389. He has been venerated as a saint in the Serbian Church.

    Sigismund of Luxembourg was a European noble who ruled the Holy Roman Empire in 1433-1437. He led the Crusade of Nicopolis, the last major crusade of the Middle Ages, which failed to liberate Bulgaria from the Ottoman rule in 1396.

    Feliks Kazimierz Potocki was a Polish commander, known as one of the country's richest noblemen of his time, who fought with the Ottomans and Tatars in the second half of the 17th century.

    Iosif Gurko was a Russian marshal credited with a series of victories in the Russo-Ottoman War of 1877-1878.

    'Vienna 1683' refers to the Battle of Vienna which is considered to be a watershed moment in the Holy Roman Empire's centuries-long struggle with the Ottomans. After losing this battle, the Ottoman Empire no longer posed a threat to Christian Europe until its collapse in WW1.

    'Acre 1189' is a reference to two the sieges of Acre, an ancient city today located in Israel. The first siege lasted from 1189 until 1191, and saw the king of the crusader-controlled Jerusalem repel Ottoman ruler Saladin.

    "For Rotherdam" refers to the child sexual exploitation scandal in the UK, wherein a British-Pakistani gang was convicted of sexually abusing at least 1,400 children between 1997 and 2013.

    Alexandre Bissonnette was the gunman who received a life sentence for killing six people at a Quebec mosque in January 2017.

    Luca Traini is an Italian neo-Nazi sympathizer who injured six African migrants in a shooting rampage in February 2017 and was sentenced to 12 years in prison.

    The Battle of Kagul of 1770 (written in Russian) was the key battle of the Russian-Ottoman War of 1768-1774, which saw Russian troops achieve a decisive victory over overwhelming Turkish forces.

    Bajo Pivljanin is a popular figure in Serbian epic poetry. He was a Serb commander who fought against the Ottomans in the second half of the 17th century.

    Fruzhin was a Bulgarian prince who headed an uprising against Ottoman rule in the early 15th century.

    The Battle of Bulair of 1913 was part of the First Balkan War; it saw Bulgarians defeat an Ottoman infantry division.

    Sebastiano Venier was a 16th-century Venetian ruler who headed the city's fleet in the Fourth Ottoman-Venetian War. He is perhaps best known as the admiral at the Battle of Lepanto of 1571, which saw the fleet of the so-called Holy League (an alliance of Christian states) deliver a stunning defeat to the Ottoman Empire off the Greek coast.

    Shipka Pass was a strategic path through the Balkan Mountains; joint Russian-Bulgarian forces successfully repulsed a series of attacks by the Ottoman army in 1877-1888, during the war which eventually led to the liberation of Bulgaria from the Ottoman Empire.

    Novak Vujošević was the hero of the Battle of Fundina against the Ottoman Empire's forces, who is believed to have killed 28 enemy soldiers.

    Link: https://sputniknews.com/asia/2019031...zen.yandex.com
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    AutumnW / have not studied this, have not studied all the responses yet either, but yours struck me. Nothing happens in a vacuum . Everything links to something prior, cause and effect. But we have little patience when it comes to thinking things thru and not just reacting. A highly questionable 9/11 event happened. BUSH went into Iraq, caused over a million deaths, men women children, and countless more in the margins etc. The result had to build lasting hatred from that part of the world . Paul Bremmer dropped off pallets of cash, millions of US Tax payer dollars. We left arms , made deals with our interests in mind. Then Isis arises, the retribution, beheadings, suicide bombers, a caliphate, then more reaction, an exodus, fear of Sharia law coming to the west and so on. Fanatics on all sides dig in their heels. This is one of the tragic consequences . Now Trump will get dragged in, and he will be the new target as its politicized. And on it goes. And however your world view has been designed is how you will cherrypick the causes, the blame and where the retribution should go . just some thoughts.

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    I just can't believe that only one perpetrator was involved in massacring 50 people; typical MSM lies-

    there just have to have been several involved and the single person accused of acting alone in your proto-type scenario is a patsy- look at true history- it's always been this way-

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    Quote Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
    AutumnW / have not studied this, have not studied all the responses yet either, but yours struck me. Nothing happens in a vacuum . Everything links to something prior, cause and effect. But we have little patience when it comes to thinking things thru and not just reacting. A highly questionable 9/11 event happened. BUSH went into Iraq, caused over a million deaths, men women children, and countless more in the margins etc. The result had to build lasting hatred from that part of the world . Paul Bremmer dropped off pallets of cash, millions of US Tax payer dollars. We left arms , made deals with our interests in mind. Then Isis arises, the retribution, beheadings, suicide bombers, a caliphate, then more reaction, an exodus, fear of Sharia law coming to the west and so on. Fanatics on all sides dig in their heels. This is one of the tragic consequences . Now Trump will get dragged in, and he will be the new target as its politicized. And on it goes. And however your world view has been designed is how you will cherrypick the causes, the blame and where the retribution should go . just some thoughts.
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