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    Default Former Polish President Pontificates About a Possible Alien Invasion

    The former president of Poland surprised his audience at a recent speaking engagement when he began pontificating about UFOs and how an alien invasion might unfold. Lech Walesa, who presided over the country from 1990 to 1995, reportedly made the remarks while addressing a civic group in the town of Krosno. Much to the astonishment of those in attendance, the retired politician indicated that he has become a believer in the idea that intelligent extraterrestrials not only exist, but could pose a threat to the safety of Earth.
    Specifically, Walesa said that "there are three levels of intellectual development in other galaxies" and, sadly, the human species occupies the lowest tier. As such, he cautioned that a visit from these advanced beings could be perilous for our planet. Should we try and challenge the ETs, Walesa observed, "they will interrupt us [and] cut us in half. The Earth will collapse." He postulated that such an invasion scenario could set the human race back 5,000 years and necessitate the need for civilization to rebuild from scratch "until the same moment in which we are today."

    Walesa went on to assert that similar situations may have already taken place on Earth, declaring that "they say that there was a civilization like ours five or four times, and it came to the same mistake as we are now - they could not communicate." He pointed to various archaeological mysteries as examples of a potential advanced human race that was wiped out in the distant past. "Various things are excavated in stone, the pyramids, even," he marveled, "we do not know where they came from!"



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    Default Re: Former Polish President Pontificates About a Possible Alien Invasion

    It sounds like Mr. Walesa has been exposed to some info that shook him up. Firstly, he is aware of off planet ETs and that they may have been here before (and implying are here now). He postulates 3 levels of sentient life in the universe, of which his source tells him we are at the lowest level. Secondly, he appears aware of prior human hi tech civilizations, perhaps 4 or 5. This apparently has truth to it as well.

    I would not think that Mr. Walesa was trying to predict an alien invasion, more like he's saying that our current international milieu is too aggressive and narrow minded to properly interact with other interstellar civilizations, which are out there. Thus his point that we don't communicate well enough.

    Perhaps Walesa also knows that this interspecies contact may be arising soon and is worried that we aren't ready.

    I wonder whether Lech was recruited into MJ12, which apparently became international when the ssp went multinational, back in the 90s when he was prez of Poland?

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    I thought the Solidarity movement in Poland and Perestroika (or rebuilding, has a very Masonic connotation) by Gorbachev were great.
    But now I see they were part of the elite agenda.

    Yeah, yeah, aliens may invade, so abolish national governments and rally around the UN. What a crock.

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    Default Re: Former Polish President Pontificates About a Possible Alien Invasion

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    I thought the Solidarity movement in Poland and Perestroika (or rebuilding, has a very Masonic connotation) by Gorbachev were great.
    But now I see they were part of the elite agenda.

    Yeah, yeah, aliens may invade, so abolish national governments and rally around the UN. What a crock.
    Aliens may invade. Or: They already have.

    Sounds to me like your premise consists of aliens not being anything other than the product of an elitistic agenda (though I may be wrong.) Either way I think Walesa talking about the alien subject is a good thing.

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    Default Re: Former Polish President Pontificates About a Possible Alien Invasion

    Aliens already walk among us.
    They, whether good or bad, have war technologies thousands and thousands of years more advanced than that available to humans. Why would they bother to "invade"?

    Reagan talked about it, just like Wernher von Braun had said.
    It's a psyop and an agenda.

    It's all smoke and mirrors.
    Real war is for human mind.

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    Default Re: Former Polish President Pontificates About a Possible Alien Invasion

    Quote Posted by Didgevillage (here)
    Aliens already walk among us.
    They, whether good or bad, have war technologies thousands and thousands of years more advanced than that available to humans. Why would they bother to "invade"?

    Reagan talked about it, just like Wernher von Braun had said.
    It's a psyop and an agenda.

    It's all smoke and mirrors.
    Real war is for human mind.
    Right. Then I misunderstood. Thank you

    "Real war is for human mind."

    Yes I absolutely agree.

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    Default Re: Former Polish President Pontificates About a Possible Alien Invasion

    I suspect that political commentators followed by C2C got a bit lost in translation, after all it’s probably not Lech Wallesa usual topic

    They seem to run transcript of his answers that kind of -skips many nuances- because he’s quite worn out and not a literary genius, sounds old stylish and Erich Von Danikenish to me but his assessment is quite good in my opinion( that is, how far did he get with the information available).

    He’s not very well educated - working class president but his IQ was estimated to surpass the “top 9” in his country. Note he considers himself “devout Catholic” and his opinions on gender diversity are obsolete as hell.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lech_Wałęsa


    But in essence and what he seems to have deduced is not worse than condensed opinion of Credo Mutwa. He does not seem to mention “alien invasion” at all.

    He seems to be saying “we humans have reached what we think is advanced level of civilisation but it’s already happened many times in history, and we are failing to communicate with each other so falling on our own sword.
    On galactic scale we are not the most or even the second most advanced - good enough for Roman Catholic ( noting”) - and if they come here we will fail again because we fail to communicate.

    And I think he speculates that it may have happened previously, which is sort of post-Danikanish idea- when our ancestors built “temples to the Gods” and when the “aka Gods” came down it cut their civilisation to halves.

    Translates : caused panic, civil war and destruction.


    He’s old fashioned. I don’t think that interpreting his words literarily through modern English helps neither lowering or comparing his message to that of “flat Earth theorists”.


    Controversial ? Yes. Maybe, quite sober ( What ??? Lech Wallesa sober? )


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    Default Re: Former Polish President Pontificates About a Possible Alien Invasion

    Walesa is a legendary figure in Poland, for those who aren't familiar with him, so this is sort of a big deal. He was instrumental in the Polish resistance against communism, and went through a lot of hardship for it in the 1980s, before the communist government finally collapsed.

    It would be kind of like if Ronald Reagan were still alive today and came out talking about aliens in the US. As a matter of fact, Reagan did make some strange statements about ETs when he was president, but I don't think he was willfully pushing any nefarious agenda while making the comments. After reading his autobiography, taking a university course on his administration, and reading and watching a lot of other material besides, my feeling is that he was naive but had good intentions. That explains both why the Bush cartel tried to assassinate him after only a few months into office, and also why he let so much corruption occur within his administration, especially as he became older and more senile (drugged, according to some, after the failed assassination attempt in 1981).

    President Medvedev in Russia also once made interesting remarks about ETs, and left a lot of people wondering whether he was joking or in earnest, he was so direct in his statements.

    I think there are both good and bad people who want to use disclosure for different purposes. The control of the narrative is crucial.

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    Default Re: Former Polish President Pontificates About a Possible Alien Invasion

    Oh good, someone is coming to save the planet from humans.

    These guys make me think of a sinking ship, where we are drilling holes in the ship and someone stands up and says 'look those Beings are coming to sink our ship!' and everyone gets really scared and starts drilling more holes.

    They would use this threat to justify more military, more oil burning, more destruction. We will literally be the ones doing what they claim the ETs will do (destroy society/life).

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    Quote Posted by halcyon026 (here)
    Oh good, someone is coming to save the planet from humans.

    These guys make me think of a sinking ship, where we are drilling holes in the ship and someone stands up and says 'look those Beings are coming to sink our ship!' and everyone gets really scared and starts drilling more holes.

    They would use this threat to justify more military, more oil burning, more destruction. We will literally be the ones doing what they claim the ETs will do (destroy society/life).

    Yes I see it the same way whether someone will intervene or not is probably not even important at this point.

    The damage human civilisation do to themselves, read ourselves and every form of life here in the name of their only survival and paranoia has been done.
    It’s out there( plug your nose).

    It’s under our feet. Tons of waste buried under our cities or shipped to some other people ( aliens) to deal with it.

    Heavy bombers and nukes and important reasons of all the people who so can’t take it back, step back from their pedestals and thrones and stop their indulgence in everything and selfish desires for new cars.

    It’s all about human infighting here and how they have to keep fighting each other till the end. No news under the Sun except for it grows exponentially bigger and more dangerous every day.



    Somehow, no matter whether I do believe in “second coming” of Isaiah the Prophet or not, I don’t think that ETs will come before it’s almost over, this time. They humans turned too dangerous.

    I wish someone to ask “give ourselves chance”. There’s always a hope till the end of the game ..but I think I’m purely pathetic at this point.

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    Default Re: Former Polish President Pontificates About a Possible Alien Invasion

    The US, UK, Russia and China have been reverse engineering crashed alien craft for decades and there are "resident" aliens in or under their soil.

    If alien races with advanced technology try to "invade" this planet, how on earth are the leaders of various countries going to defend it? Nuclear missiles are nothing more than swords and spears to these aliens. The whole thing is a ploy to weaken national states and to promote the UN, future world government.

    It is about time for humans to realize that wars since the 19th century have been engineered by the banking cabal to steer humanity toward the New World Order, aka Hegelian dialectic

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    Quote Posted by Didgevillage (here)
    If alien races with advanced technology try to "invade" this planet, how on earth are the leaders of various countries going to defend it? Nuclear missiles are nothing more than swords and spears to these aliens. The whole thing is a ploy to weaken national states and to promote the UN, future world government.
    I don't think world leaders exist completely independently of these forces. There are enough "miraculous" interventions in history to suggest that the human species is just doing groundwork for greater forces battling for our destiny.

    If the translations of Sumerian tablets are accurate, our progenitors have been infighting about our destiny since the beginning. Enlil and others wanted mankind wiped out. Enki tipped some people off and provided them with a submersible to survive the upcoming cataclysmic flood event. Even the Bible has a similar accounting of events, and variations are common in other ancient traditions as well.

    The most hopeful prospect is perhaps that any factions fighting on behalf of our survival eventually make themselves known in a way that doesn't sabotage our sovereignty or independence, which would be hard to do considering how many people would be likely to flock to them like children to a parent.

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    Religion is the strongest force to promote humans to give up sovereignty and free thinking.
    It basically boils down to worshiping something without critical thinking.
    To me, ideologies that forbid free thinking are religions such as Marxism, communism, socialism, liberalism, political correctness, veganism, flat earth and so on.

    The problem of the Sumerian tablets is that the Sumerians were easily duped and that Sitch worked for the elite.
    The Anunnaki were a bunch of liars and they didn't "create" humans.

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    Default Re: Former Polish President Pontificates About a Possible Alien Invasion

    How do we know they are Anunnaki? how do we know who we channel or listen to without seeing first. I was always taught that Love is the only energy really existing in the universe. There are 13 universes and the 13th is Angelic.
    However, this belongs to trusting to the entity who disclosed it and it's up to you to believe or disregard it.
    If Aliens are already here they have to come from a place of love or they are here to destruct.
    That war is already conquered.
    Humans are searching for others like us but we seem to be the only ones dead sert on killing each other off. If aliens from another planet dared lived within us, would they be bullied, assaulted and killed for being different or would we embrace there indifferences, they peacefulness, there knowledge what ever that may be?

    Humans are sacred because they have a beating heart and some of these aliens don't. Humans require to show emotion and can talk but some aliens use telepathy instead.

    My point is if they were here to destroy, they would have done so already. All the millennia that has passed us by and we have no accounts that aliens are here to destroy us. They normally visit and leave some wisdom or information like advanced technology to help advance us. Or am I wrong?

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