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    Consider this: reports suggest that the pilots in each case fought the MCAS system to take back control of the plane without success, before the planes crashed. I am of the opinion that this is a sad but good example of what AI (Artificial Intelligence) could do to us once its fully unleashed. Imagine us, the people trying to reason or forcibly take control of our lives from AI, if AI decides whatever is best for itself, I don’t see how any human can argue with AI, let alone fight it. Think of it this way, even if there is a kill switch to override AI, since its much smarter and faster in just about every category than us Humans, it could circumvent any and all safety features for its own survival. Where does that leave us Humans? Essentially it leaves us subservant to AI, whether we like it or not. More importantly, it will get to a point where it will try to eliminate us deliberately since we will not be at the same level of “intelligence” as AI and thus we will be a risk to it and its survival. This AI and 5G is something we will need to think long and hard about before we lend our full support because if we proceed carelessly, it would be equivalent to digging our own graves.

    Here is an example of how things could unfold once AI control everything: Lets say it causes a problem where many lives are lost, it could give people AI news (remember China has AI news anchor?)that could blame something else or someone else. AI could even label any inquiry into any suspicious incidents as fake news. Since it will also control the search engines, any searching will bring back results that align with its agenda. Asking any Human official would result in the AI answers since they will also be fed AI information. Any official news or communication channel will be controlled by AI, so that no one will have the truth but AI itself. Sounds far fetched? Think again folks.

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    Default Re: Example of AI, Boeing 737 Crashes in Indonesia and Ethiopia?

    Good thinking and very plausible

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    Boeing 737 max crashed due to computer malfunction and the pilots' inability to override the software.

    That's a narrative and I tend to doubt it now.
    If it's a simple software glitch, why ground all 737 maxes for so long?

    I think there were some structural problems, because the eyewitness reported the plane to be on fire or already disintegrating midair.

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    Quote Posted by Didgevillage (here)
    If it's a simple software glitch, why ground all 737 maxes for so long?
    Because it's not "simple". Obviously.
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    Default Re: Example of AI, Boeing 737 Crashes in Indonesia and Ethiopia?

    See also this thread:
    On post #12, I quoted this (below) from the comments section on a very good LA Times article.

    Boeing's MCAS isn't 'AI' in the accepted definition of the term, but it's still a software-driven robotic system whose serious malfunction was that it seemed to at least sometimes override humans whatever they tried to do.

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    We are entering the era of the robots being allowed to kill us in the name of progress. It is true that aircraft fatalities over the last 20 years have sharply declined and it is also true that automation is the main reason why. The robots are smarter than we are, except when they're not.

    And that's when we die so that they can get better. Same thing is going on with driverless cars. Once that technology is perfected, roadway fatalities will plummet. But to get to that point, we are going to kill people to get the bugs ironed out. Welcome to the modern world.

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    I see where everyone is coming from but my contention is that the ultimate goal is to rid of humans in the design, manufacture and maintenance of all areas of tech and put the responsibility in the hands of AI. I was watching one video by Wes Penre and I think he could be onto something with what he says. Just like the pilots could not simply turn off the MCAS system because the system considered what it was doing as the “correct thing”, full fledged AI would be acting similarly in which it decides what goes on regardless of what we Humans say, be it in the Army on the battle field, the books for people to read, the news to watch, search engines..you name it, AI would be making more and more decisions that affect us without us being able to take back that control. AI would be responsible and we would be powerless to do anything about confronting it once we let it take over to a certain point. Our advantage today is that we can still somewhat decide how best to implement it, thus, I think, a conversation should be started. Maybe laws and regulations should be put into place to make sure the Human component can never be taken out of the equation. In a few years from now all bets are off once AI is in full control.

    If one takes even a cursory glance at how fast AI is being implemented (think 5G, think Amazon, think Google, Facebook, you name it), its easy to see that the intended direction is to saturate technology and most human activity with AI. When that is done, any shenanigans can be played with to the maximum without us humans having a clue on what is actually going on. Let me spell it out like this, if not already, we will be eating food grown by AI and even cooked by AI, buy clothes designed and made by AI, travel in cars and planes created and operated by AI, fight wars with AI, read news created by AI, play games created by AI search for any information sanctioned by AI, can anyone see where I am going with this? Remember that AI is interconnected through the web, that is the reason for Internet of Things. Thus, whatever you do will be analyzed by AI to make sure you are doing what you are supposed to do. Surveillance will be pushed to the maximum. You think the banning of people like Alex Jones on the major platforms is bad, this is nothing compared to when AI is in full control because everything will be so controlled and anyone deviating from the “official” narrative will be dealt with before anyone has any chance of knowing about it. Remember predictive software anyone?

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    Those in control of AI will be the masters of our planet - no doubt the Elites already know this and will position themselves accordingly. AI will/has already been melded with humans and will ultimately takeover - the era of the Borg.

    Perhaps we'll end up going back to our roots if we do live in a type of matrix

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    The fact of the matter is that once AI is online fully, it is much harder to escape the matrix once you are in it. While at present we still have a chance to decide to participate in AI or not, in the near future, I suspect it will be 100 times more difficult to exit the matrix. The controllers, using AI, will make sure you will not receive the information that allows you to make an informed decision whether to stay or leave the so-called matrix. Take the following three examples:

    Tartaria
    https://www.stolenhistory.org/thread...ussia-once.40/ ,

    Space shuttle Challenger that exploded in 1986
    https://newspunch.com/the-challenger...ecretly-alive/,

    And the 911 incident.
    http://pilotsfor911truth.org/

    If just one of these three can be proved (I think there is ample evidence for all three) that there was mischief involved, and they could get away with it without even the use of AI, can you imagine the damage they can do with AI in their hands? Folks, we need to start waking up.

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    Tartaria
    https://www.stolenhistory.org/thread...ussia-once.40/ ,

    Space shuttle Challenger that exploded in 1986
    https://newspunch.com/the-challenger...ecretly-alive/,

    And the 911 incident.
    http://pilotsfor911truth.org/
    I don't quite get the point. Yes, "Tartaria" is total BS and no planes ever flew over Manhattan (according to John Lear) or Washington DC (It was a missile) on 911. But what has it got to do with AI?
    AI can make all lies plausible: Is that what you're saying?

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    Quote Posted by bones (here)

    Tartaria
    https://www.stolenhistory.org/thread...ussia-once.40/ ,

    Space shuttle Challenger that exploded in 1986
    https://newspunch.com/the-challenger...ecretly-alive/,

    And the 911 incident.
    http://pilotsfor911truth.org/
    AI can make all lies plausible: Is that what you're saying?
    Precisely, and more than that, it takes away the ability for us to fact check information using other media outlets.

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