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    If you think AI and hard-core surveillance are far off in the future think again, I just found this on David Ickce’s website. You can get more details from the horse's mouth here. The worst part is that you cannot know your sift score and yet it is being used by some coporations to judge your “trustworthyness” without you having a say about it. Welcome to 1984 folks.
    Having said that, I believe in the decency of real Human Beings and we can do much much better than this. All of us, real Humans, need to get involved to stop crap such as this. Do your part and don’t wait for someone else.

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    I find this very disturbing-

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    I think Discord uses this too because when I went to log in it detected an unusual location and wants me go to my email.

    I suppose it has a valid objective and, as per usual, another level of surveillance that can be, and most likely is, being abused. It’s all a bit much for me at this point, almost not worth going online anymore.
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    This is really fascinating and disturbing at the same time. I can't even begin to imagine what kind of algorithms they're using to detect "risky behaviour". Would I get any risk points for trying to hack the website, I wonder

    From the getting started guide at: https://sift.com/developers/docs/cur...view/send-data

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    Once you start sending data, Sift starts to make predictions about whether a user will be good or bad. Sift represents this risk with a score between 0 and 100, where risky users have higher scores. Sift generates a unique score per type of fraud you're preventing (e.g. payment fraud, content abuse, etc.), so a user could have a high score for one type of abuse and a low score for another.

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    I think Discord uses this too because when I went to log in it detected an unusual location and wants me go to my email.

    I suppose it has a valid objective and, as per usual, another level of surveillance that can be, and most likely is, being abused. It’s all a bit much for me at this point, almost not worth going online anymore.
    What you express here is something I am seeing more, and more of. There seems to be a powerful campaign currently in progress to make ordinary people distrust the internet, and to avoid social media. Now, Icke has the wrong end of the stick on more than a few topics, he is paradoxically rather a conceited man, he feels he was singled out to awaken the world by some powerful spiritual force. I am not going to comment on that, I don't have any antagonism towards D.Icke but I will say, he does not know everything.
    Likewise, these people who are talking about social media as a weaponized surveillance project also need to get a grip.
    Facebook is a commercial entity, it is a business, it sells people and their presence. It also sells your demographic details-that's it basically.
    The reason the internet, and social media is being discredited, is basically because the legacy media empires have lost much of their influence and power to hypnotize.
    When in human history have we been able to present, analyse and discuss politics and social matters on a global scale?
    When in all of our history have we been able to by-pass the enormous power of the publishing houses, the entertainment industry, music, literature?
    When in the history of the printing press has the power to publish, and build an audience been in our hands?
    I'll tell you, not before about 1996.
    Consider the colossal benefits of the internet, AI is largely clumsy, and badly focused, it is not this razor sharp all encompassing range of abilities.
    There is no computer that can even come near the most elementary cerebral skills of the human mind.
    Think again, and on these points before you so easily give up your WWW rights to publish, it is the printing press amplified a million times, combined with your own publishing agent.

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