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    Now that we know "global warming" is a swindle, we have to ask ourselves what its motives are. And cui bono?

    This is my take. Ice Age glacial is fast approaching and will be here sometime this century. The elite and controllers of the world know it but want avoid a mass panic, because Ice Age glacial will do catastrophic damages, while a temperature rise of a few degrees and abundance of CO2 promote life on earth.
    Their lie is typical "black is white," "ugly is beautiful" and "bad is good" inversion.

    At the same time, they want to keep the financial fraud (the Babylonian debt-based, interest-bearing fractional reserve banking system) going without us peasants becoming aware of it.

    Thus they created sports as an entertainment, while psy-op religions such as flat earth and veganism as well as "global warming" scam will keep awake people divided and divert their attention from the real issues, the Federal Reserve

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    To the shock of many climate change alarmists, even NASA scientists confirmed that carbon dioxide is “greening” the planet. NASA telling truth this time

    https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-04-...the-earth.html
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    Quote Posted by frankstien (here)
    CO2 is a by-product of warming and follows warming by hundreds of years before it increases. It is the Sun that controls our temperatures. If the Sun is very active: solar flares, increased solar wind, then fewer gamma rays get through our atmosphere. These gamma rays interact with the ocean's moisture and form clouds. Clouds cause cooling on the Earth. High activity on the Sun, less gamma rays get through, less clouds created--warmer temps. Less activity on the sun [1], more gamma rays get through, more clouds created, leading to cooler temperatures [2]. Just watch the video I posted above, the climate scientists walk the viewer through it.
    Ah, yes I agree with what you've stated above as a description for their explanation for the changes in our global climate ... but, and perhaps I am missing something here, isn't the Sun just about hitting "Solar Minimum" [1] (or soon will be) ? And if so, by their logic, Arctic temperatures should be falling [2] but doesn't the evidence indicate the temperatures are in fact Rising ?

    Here's a screenshot from the (year 2007) video at the 33:23 minute mark which apparently shows the correlation between Solar Activity (in red) and Temperature Changes in the Arctic (in blue) :

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    For their Theory to "hold water", given [1], it seems the Arctic Temperatures should, in fact, be falling eh ?

    Indeed is there conclusive evidence in support of such an Assertion ?

    Or is the available evidence (in the 12 years since the Documentary was made) now insufficient to reach such a Conclusion ?

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    The temperatures in the arctic regions do not determine the Ice Age glacial/interglacial flip-flop.
    The deep Atlantic water temperature does.

    The Holocene (the interglacial period we just had) has virtually ended. It started about 13,000 years ago with a bang with sudden increases in global (I hate to use this masonic term) temperatures, but with an overall cooling trend, rising moderately every 1,000 years.

    2,000 years ago, Europe was so warm the Romans cultivate grapes in Britain for wine.
    1,000 years ago, Greenland turned green and the Vikings settled there for agriculture and lived there for generations.

    The very last and puny rise was in the 1990s and the temperature won't rise again.

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    Now that we know "global warming" is a swindle, we have to ask ourselves what its motives are. And cui bono?

    This is my take. Ice Age glacial is fast approaching and will be here sometime this century. The elite and controllers of the world know it but want avoid a mass panic, because Ice Age glacial will do catastrophic damages, while a temperature rise of a few degrees and abundance of CO2 promote life on earth.
    Their lie is typical "black is white," "ugly is beautiful" and "bad is good" inversion.
    But isn't panic what they wanted all the time. Look at all those false flags.

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    Panics (so-called) with false flag will fade away, once the people get bored.
    But the fast-approaching glacial period will promote the people to urge the government to do something about REAL danger.

    New York City was buried under an ice sheet thousands of feet high, taller than Mt Everest.
    (That's why skyscrapers could be built over hardened ground in 1930s)
    This is the fate of the most surface areas of Canada and US.

    Food production and deliveries for 7 billion will be a real problem.
    That's the real reason for population reduction. Georgia Guidestones, everyone?

    One advantage may be, continental shelves appear from under oceans but I wouldn't rush to buy real estate there.

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    Short, concise and an excellent summary of how statistics are being manipulated to drive the climate change narrative. This is a great one to share.


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    News from NASA on the ozone hole and climate:

    Quote Ozone hole shrinks to lowest size since 1982, unrelated to climate change: NASA

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    Scientists at NASA said Monday that the hole in the Earth's ozone layer has shrunk to the smallest size on record since it was first detected in the 1980s.

    A press release from the agency reported that the hole, which naturally grows and shrinks every year due to temperatures in the Arctic, had shrunk to its yearly low in late September and October, surpassing record lows registered in past years.

    The hole now sits at 3.9 million square miles, according to NASA, the lowest level on record since the hole was first detected in 1982. Scientists at NASA's headquarters in Greenbelt, Md., said that the change in temperatures leading to warmer air in the Arctic, which contributes to ozone gap shrinkage, was related to normal yearly phenomenon and not climate change.

    "It's great news for ozone in the Southern Hemisphere," said Paul Newman, chief scientist for earth sciences at the facility. "But it's important to recognize that what we're seeing this year is due to warmer stratospheric temperatures. It's not a sign that atmospheric ozone is suddenly on a fast track to recovery."

    "This year, ozonesonde measurements at the South Pole did not show any portions of the atmosphere where ozone was completely depleted," added Bryan Johnson, an atmospheric scientist with the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's Boulder, Colo., laboratory.

    Scientists are hoping that the dangerous hole in the Earth's ozone layer, which contributes to increased negative effects from ultraviolet rays across the world, will dissipate following the decision to ban ozone-harming chemicals, some of which remain in the atmosphere, during the 1970s.

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    Donald Trump did the RIGHT thing on pulling out of Paris Accords

    Dr Shiva Ayyadurai explains why it was a good idea to pull out of the Paris Accords, pollution, the Carbon Credits scam and the global elite who benefit financially from it.

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    As said before the changes in the weather etc is cyclic so no need to make people feel guilty.
    True its not good to overuse earths resources --but its not going to make that much difference if we all got a better carbon, eco friendly, foot print.
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    It's snowing here, I sure wish there would be a global warming.
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    It's snowing here, I sure wish there would be a global warming.
    Same here ... miserable Canadian winters ... (even though technically fall just started, winter can start at any moment mid-october in many places in Canada). We've already had several large dumps of snow this year, and now we have crazy gusting wind too, it was up to 150km/h the other day.


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    This is a pretty good presentation on global cycles of climate covering things from a food and societal perspective. Less technical than some others that have been shared:


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    Solar activity occurs in cycles, the most well-known is the 11-year solar maximum to solar minimum, but our Sun also goes through longer duration more powerful cycles occurring in 400, 2000, 3600 and 7200 year intervals. Effects on societies during these Grand Solar Minimum cycles has been well catalogued through the millennia but always results in food shortages, economic contraction and population migration. Our Earth is now being effected by the new Eddy Grand Solar Minimum and will intensify from this point forward through 2030 with the same effects on our modern world.

    How will governments cope with this type of society reset button when global crop yields decline year-on-year resulting in explosive food prices and social instability? Would they warn the general public of the changes or choose to create excuses, divert attention from the issues, refuse to discuss or censor voices explaining amplified extreme weather events across our planet caused by Earth’s magnetosphere weakening due to the electromagnetic connection with our star moving into a 400-year cycle of reduced activity.

    The science that explains the changes we are now seeing in our weather with a societal forecast to 2030 based on past cycles of the Grand Solar Minimum. It's not CO2, It's not you, It's the Sun.

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    David DuByne is the creator of the ADAPT 2030 Mini Ice Age 2105-2035 video series and Mini Ice Age Conversations Podcast was a former coffee buyer in N.E Myanmar around Pyin Oo Lwin and when coffee farmers told of cold weather damage to plants with top leaf kill, decreased bean density and the need to over plant by 13-14% to balance cold damage and die off in the farms, I went looking for answers.

    David was a full CO2 warming believer, so it seemed strange that there was cold damage so near the equator in the country formerly known as Burma. I began to look for answers and it didn’t take long to find evidence that the Sun drives our climate and we are heading into another Grand Solar Minimum with profound effects on global food production. This stark realization that food is the base for society and by 2023 there will be global food shortages, at that point I had two choices, lie to myself and go back to sleep or bring truth forward.

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    Quote Posted by Cara (here)
    This is a pretty good presentation on global cycles of climate covering things from a food and societal perspective. Less technical than some others that have been shared:


    Quote Published on Nov 4, 2019
    Solar activity occurs in cycles, the most well-known is the 11-year solar maximum to solar minimum, but our Sun also goes through longer duration more powerful cycles occurring in 400, 2000, 3600 and 7200 year intervals. Effects on societies during these Grand Solar Minimum cycles has been well catalogued through the millennia but always results in food shortages, economic contraction and population migration. Our Earth is now being effected by the new Eddy Grand Solar Minimum and will intensify from this point forward through 2030 with the same effects on our modern world.

    How will governments cope with this type of society reset button when global crop yields decline year-on-year resulting in explosive food prices and social instability? Would they warn the general public of the changes or choose to create excuses, divert attention from the issues, refuse to discuss or censor voices explaining amplified extreme weather events across our planet caused by Earth’s magnetosphere weakening due to the electromagnetic connection with our star moving into a 400-year cycle of reduced activity.

    The science that explains the changes we are now seeing in our weather with a societal forecast to 2030 based on past cycles of the Grand Solar Minimum. It's not CO2, It's not you, It's the Sun.

    Bio

    David DuByne is the creator of the ADAPT 2030 Mini Ice Age 2105-2035 video series and Mini Ice Age Conversations Podcast was a former coffee buyer in N.E Myanmar around Pyin Oo Lwin and when coffee farmers told of cold weather damage to plants with top leaf kill, decreased bean density and the need to over plant by 13-14% to balance cold damage and die off in the farms, I went looking for answers.

    David was a full CO2 warming believer, so it seemed strange that there was cold damage so near the equator in the country formerly known as Burma. I began to look for answers and it didn’t take long to find evidence that the Sun drives our climate and we are heading into another Grand Solar Minimum with profound effects on global food production. This stark realization that food is the base for society and by 2023 there will be global food shortages, at that point I had two choices, lie to myself and go back to sleep or bring truth forward.

    Website: http://www.oilseedcrops.org


    Excellent. Really, really excellent. This is now my go-to video to show people what's really happening with climate change. Everyone should see this, maybe more than once to best absorb and understand the huge amount of information it contains.

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    Wow, saw it and it was worth the time. Chilling video (pun intended)

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    If this is already here on this thread or somewhere else on PA, apologies.

    All the above is all and only my opinion - all subject to change and not meant to be true for anyone else regardless of how I phrase it.

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    Getting to the truth about many issues can be a difficult task, but global warming need not be one of those issues. We know long term weather patterns, we have reasonably good data on the suns activity, we know the earth has been deglaciated at least three times. We have the exact words from the power brokers at the UN pushing the global warming alarm bell and we have reams of data.

    Politician and corporations have used fear and anger to incite change for decades. There are two global issues that the world has been propelled into that have caused immeasurable anger and fear. Unfettered immigration and global warming. In the case of global warming and to a lesser extent immigration we are being told that the usual suspect, USA, Europe, Russia, China and Asia can't fix the problems because they are causing the problems. In essence, these countries are the problem.

    Now we have two major worldwide (global) problems without a savior in sight. Enter the United Nations with Climate Accords, Climate Treaties, Carbon Tax Suggestion, Carbon Offset Credits and eventually some hobbled together solution for immigration when it reaches the point of being intolerable. Now (we are almost there) you have One World Government sitting on your local doorstep.

    So people around the world have come to the realization that no one country on its own can solve these worldwide global problems which will lead most of the unwoke world to determine that they are in need of a Unified World Government.

    It is my view that immigration and climate change have been intentionally and systematically thrust upon the world to achieve a One World Government Solution.

    I also believe, unfortunately, that this outcome is unstoppable. This does not foretell the end of the world but it does not augur well for worldwide stability. The globalists want a full-on financial and geopolitical shift to occur around the world as quickly as they can make it happen. 

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    Thanks for posting that Bill. I have been listening to some of DuByne's Adapt2030 regular presentations, and I think he is right on.
    His voice is much easier to listen to in the video, for which I am grateful, since this info REALLY needs to get out there asap.
    ( His style in the updates is unpleasantly strident, unfortunately, though the info is still very much worth listening to, and should be encouraging lots more "survivalist" activity, in the best sense of the word.)
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    Excellent. Really, really excellent. This is now my go-to video to show people what's really happening with climate change. Everyone should see this, maybe more than once to best absorb and understand the huge amount of information it contains.
    Lots from Russian researcher Valentina Zharkova and more here: https://watchers.news/2019/07/01/val...solar-minimum/
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