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    Default Re: Notre-Dame cathedral: Firefighters tackle blaze in Paris

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    At the 10:52 mark, this report refers to a Rolling Stone article in which they feel liberated. That Rolling Stone article is How Should France Rebuild Notre Dame? Much of the structure survived the blaze — but as rebuilding efforts move forward, the country will be left with a big question: What does the cathedral mean to 21st-century France?.

    Here's the liberation quote from that Rolling Stone article:
    Quote But for some people in France, Notre Dame has also served as a deep-seated symbol of resentment, a monument to a deeply flawed institution and an idealized Christian European France that arguably never existed in the first place. “The building was so overburdened with meaning that its burning feels like an act of liberation,” says Patricio del Real, an architecture historian at Harvard University.


    Where have we seen this kind of forced cultural "liberation" before?


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    Default Re: Notre-Dame cathedral: Firefighters tackle blaze in Paris

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    [...]... Benjamin Mouton, who served as Chief Architect of Historic Monuments in France until 2013, that this fire could not have started without an accelerant, and that it was not an accident due to the construction work.


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    See interview and SOTTnet translation at post #71
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    Default Re: Notre-Dame cathedral: Firefighters tackle blaze in Paris

    I find that this woman's explanation tying the nature of the Notre Dame fire to other recent major strange fires interesting:

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    Default Re: Notre-Dame cathedral: Firefighters tackle blaze in Paris

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    By "sheer coincidence," Michelle Obama was cruising down the Seine while Notre Dame was burning.

    Quote Michelle Obama Dinner Cruise Vibes Turn to Concern During Notre Dame Inferno



    Michelle Obama was living the good life -- sipping wine on a dinner cruise in Paris -- when the Notre Dame Cathedral fire totally changed the mood ... and the course of the cruise.

    The former First Lady was smiling as she boarded the Ducasse sur Seine Monday night -- just across from the Eiffel Tower -- for a dinner cruise experience along the Seine River with famous chef Alain Ducasse and others.

    Michelle looked fit for a fancy, fun night on the luxury ship ... but things took a turn for the worse when word got around Notre Dame was going up in flames. As you can see in the pics ... everybody's happy faces turn concerned for the famed cathedral and the people of Paris.
    https://www.tmz.com/2019/04/16/miche...tre-dame-fire/


    There's already some wealthy French aristocrat calling for Notre Dame to be rebuilt as a "multicultural" monument to a "new France."

    This was truly an act of war, except only one side is fighting this war, openly destroying Western civilization while everyone else just sits around making faces and talking about how they feel. I'm not even French and it hurts me.
    Notice the necklace???? it say "Burning"... there´s also a photograph of her drinking and in the reflection of the glass you can see "their-Damme" "Burning"

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    Default Re: Notre-Dame cathedral: Firefighters tackle blaze in Paris

    With such a high temperature within the building it seems odd that the candles are still in place like there was no heat at all!

    Even if they are artificial made from plastic there should be a change in form due to the heat. It seems they look still brand new.





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    Default Re: Notre-Dame cathedral: Firefighters tackle blaze in Paris

    The reason why the candles didn't melt or weakened:

    From Jim stone, April 20-21 2019:

    CONFIRMED: Notre Dame was virtually unhurt by the fire, and any claims that it has to be "rebuilt" are hoaxes with a motive

    The hoax of Notre Dame:

    This hoax involved burning a wooden facade [external] "roof" that probably kept water off a secondary [internal] roof and prevented freezing problems with the second roof, and NOTHING MORE.

    Unlike what you have been told by the scamming MSM, the cathedral would never have collapsed because the actual support for the cathedral [structure] was provided by the side arches, and the arches of an interior brick and concrete roof three feet thick.

    This secondary interior roof [the cathedral's vaulted "ceiling"] prevented damage to the inside of the cathedral, except where the spire (questionably, it likely had help) "fell through" it.

    The hoax about the cathedral being "destroyed" is now confirmed. Let's get this party started.

    Here is how the wooden roof was attached. You can clearly see the concrete dome roof under it was supporting it, and now has less weight to hold with it gone and it would actually be less likely to collapse now provided the heat of the fire did not significantly damage it:


    [the "forest" of oak beams supporting the tin/lead roof]

    Here is a picture of that burned wooden roof laying on top of the concrete and brick roof under it. Notre Dame was built a LOT better than anything the Romans ever did. With the Roman stuff, once the wooden roof was gone, all that remained was pillars. Clearly here, the real roof consisted of a series of concrete and brick domes.

    Here's why the cathedral was, except for where the spire fell through, unscathed:


    [the "oven"]

    When you consider the scale of the above picture, the concrete and brick were at least three feet thick on the interior roof. There's no way this cathedral got significantly hurt, to the tune of a billion dollars.

    Let's take a look at the inside after the fire



    Clearly, from the aftermath photo of the interior, they could turn the lights back on if they wanted to. The concrete roof held up so well for so long that there's not even significant smoke damage.

    Conclusion:
    The cathedral is not destroyed, and any stories about how it got devastated are only cover for bilking cash for pork barrel projects and excuses to delay, delay, AND DELAY re-opening it. The cash is there to fix this PRONTO. If the desire is there to fix it (by the people in control), it ought to be open before the end of August with money obviously being no object.

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    Default Re: Notre-Dame cathedral: Firefighters tackle blaze in Paris

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    [/FONT] Conclusion:
    The cathedral is not destroyed, and any stories about how it got devastated are only cover for bilking cash for pork barrel projects and excuses to delay, delay, AND DELAY re-opening it. The cash is there to fix this PRONTO. If the desire is there to fix it (by the people in control), it ought to be open before the end of August with money obviously being no object.

    And another view of the Notre Dame Catherdral from above.



    With regard to the above article it seem obvious the Catherdral roof was not structural but more so a protective covering against the elements and so it seems Notre Dame Cathedral has suffered minimal damage, thankfully.

    So what will they do with an expected 845 million euros, about $950 million in donations for the repairs, when the repair may fall far short of these donations.

    Maybe, the tptw are hurting financially and maybe this was one of the facets to this false flag, that is to access legitimate money via illegal means. It would not be a surprise would it.

    Related article, below.

    Millions in Notre-Dame Donations Pour In as France Focuses on Rebuilding

    Quote:
    "Individuals, companies and institutions have so far donated or pledged 845 million euros, about $950 million, to rebuild the damaged cathedral, which has stood for more than eight centuries. On Tuesday, the government set up an online portal pointing to four official organizations and foundations that are collecting donations."

    Link to online portals: https://www.gouvernement.fr/rebatirnotredame

    Link to Article: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/17/w...dame-fire.html
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    Default Re: Notre-Dame cathedral: Firefighters tackle blaze in Paris

    A few pages back, I wrote:

    Quote Posted by Hervé (here)
    ...
    [...]
    ... which makes me really wonder about the underlying reality beneath the fire at "Our Lady" of Paris? Definitely a signal; but by whom to whom?
    Well:
    Around 160 killed, hundreds injured in 6 blasts at Sri Lankan hotels and churches on Easter Sunday

    Sri Lankan police chief warned about possible bombings 10 days before Easter attacks

    Russia’s largest yeshiva attacked with arson and swastikas ahead of Passover

    The Blaze of Hate
    Israel Shamir • April 19, 2019



    The Rabbis do not regret the Paris disaster. “It’s Divine punishment for burning the Talmud,” divines a prominent Jewish divine, the Bethel Rabbi Shlomo Aviner, about the Notre Dame fire. In 1242 the French investigated the Talmud, established that the codex contains volumes of hate speech, and finally burned 1200 codices in the square of the freshly-built Notre Dame Cathedral. “The time for punishment is here,” the Rabbi intones dramatically....
    ... so, there we go... accelerant sprayed all over the place so that Albert Pike's WW III can ignite in all its horror.
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    Default Re: Notre-Dame cathedral: Firefighters tackle blaze in Paris

    Isn't it funny how "divine" retribution is always perpetrated by actual human beings? How is that "divine"?
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