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25th January 2011 18:24
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Re: WADE FRAZIER : A Healed Planet
--- I believe that much of that so-called advanced technology tries to mimic advanced spiritual abilities. My understanding is that much of our advanced technology is quaint by certain “extraterrestrial” standards, because we have a primitive understanding of consciousness. By and large, the heart is not in charge on Earth.
Wade Frazier
Is there a relation between zero point energy and the highest spiritual/metaphysical attainments?
One of the essential spiritual procedures is meditation. There are stages of attainment in meditation, some of the highest levels being Nirvikalpa Samadhi and Soruba Samadhi - both of which are achieved only in utter stillness. The power and secret of this stillness through meditation is found between the inhale/exhale (at the zero point).
When activated such accomplished acolytes are as dead. They are so completely still there is no movement in their body at all. No breath, they are cold to touch, animals and bugs will not bother them, they do not develop fungus/mold like normal dead bodies, etc.
Consider, what if 3rd Dimensional reality was in fact an exteriorization of mind(s) that fell from the 4th dimension (Garden of Eden). What if the purpose of life has nothing to do with perpetuating 3D existence ultimately. But in recognizing the critical mass of our error in the “fall” and thus reclaim our former 4D status as a step on our way back into the higher dimensions?
The highest technological secrets all lead into conscious responsibility. The death of the Powers That Be is not so much the technology, per say, as it is the consciousness associated with it. TPTB must have willing sheeple in order for them to reign. If people started waking up and refused to participate then their system, their dimension, would inevitably collapse.
Some may wonder why we must move into 4D and not just improve/retain 3D. But how is this “improvement” possible? If you improve a dimension what are you actually doing? What if we look at said progression from the perspective of vibratory oscillation? Well, at least many of us can relate to the following even if it is relayed in simplistic terms.
We can all observe that base oscillations seem to affect people in certain ways. Consider dark music and how the psychology is negatively affected over time. Similarly you can find that dense or base energies found in too much heavy eating, fear, war, etc, all could be considered as vibrating at low oscillations. As such, if we wish to escape from these low/dark vibrations we must find higher/lighter oscillations. Ultimately if the vibration of 3D is sped up to a certain point it naturally becomes 4D automatically.
So in simplistic terms you cannot retain a 3D state and progress. Even the Greatest Masters while incarnate are not actually progressing and have to recharge if they retain a 3D body. For example, their powers are merely the conscious side-effect of their higher dimensional attainments. Eventually, however, these powers fade unless they are recharged.
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25th January 2011 19:03
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Re: WADE FRAZIER : A Healed Planet
Gaia is a conscious entity and though there is an abundance of abuse in old school technologies that have raped the land, there are new stones and minerals that up til now where unable to come into our conscious awareness until most recently/ larimar, charoite, moldavite? all with new energies and carrying information for the furtherance of raising us all into a more coherent force...
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25th January 2011 19:30
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Re: WADE FRAZIER : A Healed Planet
Hi OMG:
See the last levels of this chart:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#chart
This idea has already been kicked around some on this thread, too. Those who do not have to eat have it figured out. The rest of us are not there yet. Philosophizing about 3D and 4D can be interesting, and if we are about to make a dimensional leap or not. While I acknowledge that there is probably a lot of truth to those ideas, getting from here to there is the trick, as if there is any there (
). I have had all sorts of "mystical" people go around and around on this stuff over the years, thinking that they can meditate all of the world's problems away, or escape "here" that way, and so on. I always go back to, "Do you still have to eat?" Until we can do without food and still be here, my work is more along the lines of physical reality practicality. But I have some stars to steer by, too:
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1
Is that a 3D or 4D reality? I am not sure that I care. I would sign up in a heartbeat.
Thanks for reading.
Best,
Wade
Hi gardunk:
Yes, Earth is my mother and I try to treat her well, and we have a lot to learn from her, and new minerals are part of it. Thanks for reading.
Best,
Wade
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26th January 2011 08:48
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Re: WADE FRAZIER : A Healed Planet
Thank you Wade. The great thing about scientist are that they prefer practical accomplishment over theory. I for one recognize theories as catalyst, but prefer practical fact and the realization of attainable states. No matter where you go…there you are, eh.
I’m pretty much done with my dialogues in this tread and don't wish to overstay my welcome (don’t get overly excited now…LOL). I truly appreciate the warm welcome I've received and of course the feedback. I realize I’ve not spoken the language of science, per say, and most of what I have been conveying seems rather out-of-reach, impractical, or just plain off target to most. That said, I feel compelled to leave with a few more comments and would respond only if asked a direct question.
For most of my life I’ve been interested in level 18 and higher. http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#chart These levels, if feasible, seemed the proper way of living and how we should utilize our will. I tended to feel that innate-organic-achievements not dependant on external-synthetic-mechanisms were our destiny. Such intimacy lessened the disassociation between observer and observed (closing the gap towards zero point, if you will).
As such I’ve spent most of my life delving into whether or not these “levels” are possible, validating the “masters” who had supposedly achieved them, and concerning myself with what I can practically DO towards this end.
Yes, meditation is not strictly someone sitting still and not participating actively in social life. (Although there have been exceptions. But these spiritually reclusive types help society in other ways.) There is also moving meditation where we are actively living in the conscious NOW while performing our daily duties. Progression is the aim.
I think that all of the wonderful creative ideas that science is yet to create ultimately have to exist. These are exteriorizations of mind variables which are potentially infinite. Yet I wonder if these are all distractions no matter how “advanced” they seem. Do they divert us from some Grand Singularity/Source which IS beyond the redundancy of all the mental journey's, yet encompasses ALL of the minds infinite variables and permutations?
BTW: Are you familiar with Thomas Campbell’s trilogy www.my-big-toe.com? If so your thoughts?
In conclusion. It is obvious to the keen observer that there are people on this planet who have achieved Levels 18 and higher. In fact there are those purported who are older than even Charles’ “Master” of 5,000 years. And yet I am reminded at this moment of Robert Monroe www.monroeinstitute.org who claimed to have meant the oldest living person on the plant in his out-of-body travels but that person was not nearly as old as Charles’ “Master”. So who’s right?
Only through direct experience, or the comparable weight of supporting facts, does any of this matter.
Wade, I agree with your assessment that those who have “figured it out” would be breatharians, or beyond. Yet I would add this. Many traditions feel that a Master can succumb to inevitable physical death as long as they pass on consciously. And that by doing so they can escape reincarnation and the wheel of samsara. In some cases this seems to be the case, yet they still have to work in dimensions not too far removed from 3D. (Here's one example http://www.ananda.org/autobiography/#chap43)
Whereas, I am of the observation that only when one has become impervious to physical death and can transcend to any dimension/density at will can they escape cosmological samsara. Using East Indian vernacular, this state is known as Soruba Samadhi, higher even than Nirvikalpa Samadhi (God Union). Babaji is a popular immoralist said to have achieved Soruba Samadhi and a member of these physically immortal ranks known as Siddha or Siddhar.
Namaste
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26th January 2011 11:36
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