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    Hi Scott:

    Thanks for having Brian and me on. The interviews were fun to do. Others are better historians of FE than I am. I am more of a survivor of those days, and know of many of my fellow travelers because we were all in the same soup for a while.

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    Hi:

    I got to listen to the file of my most recent interview that will be published in a few weeks:

    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post197129

    and a few pals got a sneak preview. As I ended that interview, I said that I hoped that today’s FE aspirants would find that interview, because I laid my perspective out pretty clearly, a perspective that is the result of a lifetime of experiences, many of which I was lucky to survive with my sanity intact. Nobody has really played at Dennis’s level in the FE field before or since, and the lessons learned were deep and vast. While I was there, it is still a challenge for me to comprehend what Dennis has lived through. He was certainly the Indiana Jones of FE, and is still trying, incredibly. Others have taken different but no less worthy avenues, but Dennis’s path likely became the greatest “threat” that the Global Controllers have had to deal with so far, at least from efforts mounted by the public. A lot of the attention that Dennis has received I cannot publicly discuss today, but let’s just say that a lot of it is hard to believe, even for those of us who were there.

    My next few weeks will be a blur at my day job, but I have finally gotten to the stage of getting that essay written. As I have stated, it has been a daunting task, and like a star coalescing from interstellar dust, that essay has been a long time in gestating. My goal is to help the non-scientist understand the energy issue and how it is the lynchpin for life on Earth and the human economy, and how it affects most aspects of our existence, often in profound yet inconspicuous ways. I have spent much of my “free time” over the past several years doing the research to try to do the subject justice. It has been particularly rewarding to revisit chemistry and biology, which were my first loves. The advances in molecular biology and biochemistry, along with tools such as mass spectrometers, gas chromatographs and gene sequencing, makes the training that I had when young very outdated, and it has been a great pleasure to catch up on the current state of the science. Unlike my previous essays, this one will have many pictures and diagrams.

    The first part of the essay is going to lay the scientific groundwork for why energy has the role that it does, and how the interplay of matter and energy led to Earth, how life evolved to where humans became the latest dominant life form on Earth, with a dominance that is unprecedented and threatens the existence of all complex life forms. Writing it in a way that is accurate, compelling, educational and relevant to the essay’s latter parts is part of the essay’s daunting nature. Of course, I will also make it very clear that the picture that science paints is not the story, but a story. False premises such as consciousness arising from matter, and not the other way around, is part of the folly of “white” science, and that materialistic perspective has led to great evils, as well as material “progress.” I am highly inspired right now to draft that first part and float it out to my pals, for feedback. Because my work is multi-disciplinary and has that unique “Wade” style, the whole will be more than a sum of the parts, and as I write the other parts, they will interact with the others and the entire essay will “morph” into the integrative whole, with entire sections being rewritten as it takes shape.

    The rest of my year is going to be insanely busy, but I am going to do my best to get large chunks of that essay drafted. Maybe I will get lucky and get it finished by year-end, but it is increasingly looking like it is going to be a 2012 essay, strangely enough.

    Enjoy the spring,

    Wade
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    Quote Posted by Ilie Pandia (here)
    Hello Wade,

    Thank you for this wonderful post. You are a "strange" combination between a scientist and a mystic
    It's called (And I'm sure you know this) a 'Renaissance Man'. The education and all connected to it has worked very hard to compartmentalized schooling and education so this sort of person has little to no chance of emerging. This is and has been a primary weapon in controlling mankind's development since the creation of the 'scientific paradigm'. to eliminate the wildcard individuals that SHOULD be helping save humanity from the downward spiral that some seem to be desiring to have come into being. However, thankfully...this system of incarnation has other ideas on the subject than the abusers of it can control, squeeze or malign.

    Those multi-disciplinarians that have a wide vision and capacity to encompass much, which only leads to further powerful unfolding and openings. Like a given human getting up to 'water-skiing speed' and riding fast on the top of the waves--seeing everywhere. Evolution as a caffeinated speed-flow. It's a great space to find if you can get there. One trick to it... is to at first be open to all and let discernment unfold/develop and refine itself, over time. No decision is final. Unless involves something evil that should be avoided. In that case be a bit more affirmative, but still open to modifying one's point of understanding, over time.
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    Hi Carmody:

    Thanks. Nice post.

    Bucky noted that specialization in science was a ruling class tactic to keep scientists from seeing the big picture:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#slave

    and it has been pretty effective, and the "skeptics" work hard at keeping those blinders securely fastened:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#friends

    The good news is that all the reductionism and tunnel-vision that is promoted in the halls of "learning" seems to be slowly giving way to interdisciplinary thinking. I see more and more of it, but it might end up being too late to right the ship. Being a generalist is not easy, and the specialists have their place. I think that a good generalist has to have played the specialist game to understand how to drill into the details and what the virtues and limitations of specialization are. The devil is usually in the details, details that often the specialists are most familiar with.

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    Im kinda new to this forum and I haven't read anything that Wade has written yet. I'm not a scientist so I know nada but my grandfather would have loved to talk to Wade because he lived out in the bush with my grandma and had electricity and running water.

    I am wondering if Wade knows anything about this: I was sick for a couple of years with god know what it was and a friend of mine came over with a "thing" we dunna know what it is. Apparently, it contains gold and rhodium. We figure that somehow he got the electrons flowing between them. My friend says if it ever stops working to soak it in salt water for 3 days at a full moon which sounds kinda witchy to me but the thing is it works. It stops any kind of infection or irritation, kills pain, improves mental acuity and acts as a detox. We, even my friend, aren't sure what else it might do. My friend is kind of a strange guy, he has something on the roof where he lives that creates a bowl of blue sky over his place even on rainy or foggy days. I didn't believe in that one (even though I saw it) until one day I happened to meet a vetrinarian from Iran, who when I showed him my "thing" and also told him about the weather controller my friend had, told me that was "real" technology and he knew all about it. I don't know how people, like my friend, know about this stuff or where they get it from. Any comments?

    My personal hypothesis for many years, even before I got my "thing" was that people could be healed by sound....tones...like on a piano. When I was about 23, a friend of mine took me to a black crown ceremony. When I asked him "why" he wanted me to go, he said it would prevent me from reincarnating into a sheep (joke). So we sat on the floor of the ballroom at the hotel and the Dalai Lama came in, scratched his nose, smiled at everyone and not much else happened except those monks were blowing their horns and whatever other instruments they were playing. After that ceremony I not only knew where my chakras were (and I didn't even know what a chakra was then) but I had a lot of other information. Also, for the longest time after that I could generate the feeling of cold water out of the top of my head. I thought this was crazy but I later did see on television someone else who said he could do that. I also had warm water running out of my heart chakra. Im pretty sure those monks knew what they were doing when they were blowing those horns.

    In the bible (Im not religious in a biblical sense) they talk about the "water of life" and I think thats it. I have a lot of other thoughts about the cold water as well.
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    Hi 161803398:

    On the rhodium and gold, I believe that you are referring to this stuff:

    http://www.asc-alchemy.com/mono.html

    I heard about his long ago, and have not investigated it myself, but not much would surprise me in that realm. Noble gases can have healing effects (Rife, etc.). Light and sound can heal, too. Of course, in the West, anybody sticking their head up too far on this stuff is going to get it whacked.

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#ghadiali

    Water also has amazing properties. Brown found some of that out:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#yull

    In my upcoming interview, I talk about Brown’s Gas a bit and our experiences with it.

    Most of that is on the fringes, through either organized suppression or the disinterest/unawareness of the masses. Free energy is in the same boat, but is the most suppressed of all.

    On the Dalia Lama and those Tibetan chants, I heard him speak once, too, nearly twenty years ago, but I did not get a Tibetan chant performance – their sound has always fascinated me, and I have no doubt that it was related to your chakra experience. Back when I heard him speak, it was when I was going through my “Tibetan” phase. Many worthy practices are happening in the East, but like the West, not many are really high level players; too many are trying to get fed with it, and so on.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi:

    I am leaving in a few minutes to work one of those 15-hour days, but wanted to reiterate something that I just stated to a prominent pal in the “conspiracy” field. He thought that if somebody could just take a working FE prototype on tour, or upload a video of one working, then it would almost be over. He asked why nobody has done it. I replied along these lines…

    Many prototypes have been demonstrated. They get taken out of circulation pretty quickly. See Sweet,

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#sweet

    Trombly, etc.

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#trombly

    I talk about those two in particular in that upcoming interview. Very few have the goods (demonstrable prototypes, and they will be made the offer they can't refuse if they get very serious, and almost nobody refuses the offer (Dennis did, and landed in jail a few weeks later
    (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#offer )). That is part of the conundrum. Any working prototype that is displayed while working and does not immediately disappear is about 95% of the way to the goal line. It is a lot harder than you would think. The FE device that will revolutionize the human journey I highly doubt will be something that people can build in their garages with parts they got from the hardware store. Think along the lines of Intel’s Pentium chip, and you get an idea of the technical side of it.

    Nobody has ever passed the fifty yard line yet.

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#graphic

    It is likely that many of the “names” of FE today do not have the goods. If they did, they would have been taken out of circulation. Only people like Dennis survive jail stints, murder attempts, and refuse billion dollar bribes. For the rest of us mere mortals, the perils and temptations are simply too great.

    Best,

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    OK, one last post before I go to work. Newcomers to the field nearly invariably ask questions about if it was real, why then don’t we have it. That is the Square One perspective and the most common response:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#naive

    The vast majority of today’s humanity will begin to wake up to free energy when somebody delivers a working free energy machine to their house:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#machiavelli

    If a person becomes aware enough and has what it takes to just start thinking about the situation and its implications, they go usually go through these phases, and not necessarily in this order, but this order is common enough:

    1. We can defeat the Big Boys in battle;

    2. We can sneak past the Big Boys;

    3. We can organize a stampede that will trample the Big Boys (with working prototypes, organizations built around “patriotism,” religion, business, etc.);

    Some other phases are:

    A. I can become the Bill Gates of free energy if I am clever and ruthless enough;

    B. Maybe I can get to the stage where they will buy me out and I can then work on my tan for the rest of my life – Golden Handcuffs sound good to me (they may get cement shoes instead);

    C. The Big Boys have it all locked up, and it is useless to even try; I think I will just shuffle along with the herd. I like my solace to be at least 80 proof.

    Those are all layers of the Free Energy onion,

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#chart

    and I have seen countless people in all of those layers over the many years, and far more. I sit in Level 12:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level12

    and seek others like me, or help those who want to get to Level 12.

    Others say that they are shooting for Level 19, and I wish them the best. However, for the rest of us, we will do FE technologically at first. If people think that FE technology is hazardous if not handled properly, its misuses pale beside abusing mystical abilities. They are related, however, as I have stated on this thread a number of times (here is one of those mentions):

    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post193963

    Again, this is a conundrum like no other, and humanity’s future likely hinges on the outcome. Getting to Level 12 and staying there is no easy trick. You have to face your demons to get there. Almost everybody wants the easy answers and would rather not be bothered with stuff like this, because American Idol comes on in a few minutes. Again, the last thing that I am doing is trying to attract their attention, but newcomers almost always think that the Hollywood route is going to work. When the Hollywood moment comes, the effort will be about 99% of the way to the finish line. The effort today is around 1-5% of the way there, as far as efforts from the public go. When people begin to chew on that reality, most run the other way as fast as they can, and I wave goodbye to them as they go. This stuff is not for dabblers and those who think that they can solve the energy issue on their lunch hour.

    That is not the answer that newcomers want to hear, but it is the real answer, not the fantasy version.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Here is an addendum to my previous post…

    A big reason for my site's writings and my upcoming essay is to help the well-intended but not scientifically-trained understand the energy situation and how it shapes our lives on Earth, and what the elimination of energy scarcity can mean for the human journey. When people reach Level 12 and have lived with the reality of the energy situation for many years, it is pretty incredible to see not only the invincible unawareness and denial that almost everybody is entrenched in, but also the so-called "solutions" that are bandied about as answers, and I am not talking about the "Does Searl have it? Does Bedini have it? Does Greer have it?" questions that you can see on this thread and elsewhere that I have publicly interacted, but what gets promoted in the establishment and in "alternative" circles such as what the so-called environmentalists propose, stuff that really is a huge misdirection from pursuing real solutions, distractions that include air cars, hydrogen cars, biofuels and the usual suspects of "alternative" energy. All of them are almost entirely inconsequential to the real problems, and none are viable solutions, not compared to what I know exists, but they are endlessly paraded in various corners, and the non-scientifically-trained are easy prey for those distracting "solutions."

    It is part of what I call the layman's quandary:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/orthodox.htm

    Those "solutions" and the assumptions that gird such approaches amount to beginner's hurdles that actively prevent the conversation from ever rising past those low levels. Free energy technology is real, organized suppression is real, exotic technologies and materials that would boggle people's minds are rife in the above-top-secret world. However, for those who peek into people pursuing such technologies in workshops and garages, there is a mountain of chaff for every kernel of wheat, and the Big Boys have the detection and removal of the real goods down to a science. This is not subject matter for the faint of heart, quick-study artists, etc. That is why I am going to be aiming to begin a high level conversation that interested members of the public might benefit from witnessing. I am not asking anybody to be heroes or scale the ramparts, but to just engage their hearts and minds and see if they can imagine the world that we can have, and soon, if enough of us only cared to imagine it. We will see how it goes.

    Best,

    Wade

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    Here is an addendum to my previous post…

    A big reason for my site's writings and my upcoming essay is to help the well-intended but not scientifically-trained understand the energy situation and how it shapes our lives on Earth, and what the elimination of energy scarcity can mean for the human journey...... [snip]

    This is not subject matter for the faint of heart, quick-study artists, etc. That is why I am going to be aiming to begin a high level conversation that interested members of the public might benefit from witnessing. I am not asking anybody to be heroes or scale the ramparts, but to just engage their hearts and minds and see if they can imagine the world that we can have, and soon, if enough of us only cared to imagine it. We will see how it goes.

    Best,

    Wade
    Thanx Wade I'm in the process of digesting your writings, and lovn it. What draws me is the way it is presented and concentrates on facts. I do find myself leaning back and wondering what if.... I would like to make it what is.

    And fully understand as you have stated (from experience) many times. The information you provide is closley monitored and shut down as soon as possible. Before the public can fully/ half understand what it means for us.

    I sincerely thank you and your colleagues for the work you do now and have done in the past.

    PEACE

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    Thanks Tahi.

    The good news is that people who just write seem to be left alone, as long as they are not naming names and doing other things to rile up the Big Boys or the lower level predators. I still have my Internet stalkers, and some are likely professionals, but it has not been so bad from that side of the house. People who do what I do assume that we are being watched, and sometimes we see evidence of it, but they seem to only watch. Avalon has proven to be an oasis from the trolls and others who try to derail this stuff. I have some hope that I will be able to get that conversation going in a way that will be valuable, but time will tell.

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    Thanx again... I'll keep reading, and watch this space.

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    I often wonder how did I end up as Free Energy enthusiast. The Free Energy pulls me harder and harder as days pass by. Would the aliens will help us? I doubt it. Some of humans might get help but not the global scale.

    Only practical solution I could think of is world peace and free energy for once and for all.
    What if all the non-profit organizations, social groups put focus on ending wars and conflicts permanently on Earth? If free energy is being used for mass destruction, I wouldn't wanna even imagine that scenario.

    I feel I gotta do something to bring free energy somehow.

    Thanks a lot Wade for maintaining this thread.

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    Quote On the rhodium and gold, I believe that you are referring to this stuff:

    http://www.asc-alchemy.com/mono.html

    I heard about his long ago, and have not investigated it myself, but not much would surprise me in that realm. Noble gases can have healing effects (Rife, etc.). Light and sound can heal, too. Of course, in the West, anybody sticking their head up too far on this stuff is going to get it whacked.
    Well, its not edible. Here is the site made by someone else. But his name is never mentioned.

    http://personalenergydevice.com/PED-...gy_Device.html

    One of the interesting things he told me was that he had made one for a doctor who was an evil type and the thing stopped working. He fixed it and gave it back. Then it stopped working again. Another interesting thing is that when he made it he wasn't sure what it would do so he has everyone taking notes all the time. It does different things for me than it shows on the site.

    He's had too much trouble with the medical establishment before many years ago, so he knows to avoid publicity.

    He says its vibration that makes the healing effect.
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    I often wonder how did I end up as Free Energy enthusiast. The Free Energy pulls me harder and harder as days pass by. Would the aliens will help us? I doubt it. Some of humans might get help but not the global scale.

    Only practical solution I could think of is world peace and free energy for once and for all.
    What if all the non-profit organizations, social groups put focus on ending wars and conflicts permanently on Earth? If free energy is being used for mass destruction, I wouldn't wanna even imagine that scenario.

    I feel I gotta do something to bring free energy somehow.

    Thanks a lot Wade for maintaining this thread.
    Before we incarnated in these bodies, we floated in a sea of unlimited energy. As the veil of forgetfulness thins, we are getting over this imposed scarcity, and we know and yearn for that free flowing energy once more.
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    Hi Hughe:

    As I have written, most of us in the FE field took diverse paths to the milieu. It could be said that we were all trying to make a difference, and the roads eventually led here. It really is the big show. The energy issue is the overarching one for humanity, and free energy's impact is hard to imagine. Just bringing your awareness to the issue is plenty, believe me. Almost nobody on the planet is really even thinking about this stuff in a productive manner these days.

    Hi 161803398:

    The noble metals and gases have mysterious properties, no doubt. I'll buy the vibration (energy) angle.

    Hi Pierre:

    Yes, I think that many in the FE field have some deep yearning that they are reaching for. Many different cultures have names for what may be around the corner. We will see what comes.

    Best,

    Wade

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    I've been doing a little more research on NeiKung and taoist internal alchemy and it amazes me how similar the principles that govern this internal science are compared to a patent I found online of a free energy device developed by Tesla.

    the NaiKung master John Chang (a level 19 on the energy onion) says that everything on the earth is yang energy, the earth itself is yin energy...so we take yang in through breathing and sunlight, yin comes up from the earth...when he fuses yin and yang together in the lower tantian (below the navel) it produces electricity. He says in his healing work he'll only use 0.5% of his energy and even that is enough to create uncontrollable muscle spasms in his patients...2% of his energy would be enough to kill a man, inducing heart attack. He says many spiritual masters live on top of mountains because the mountain shape helps to draw the yin energy up from within the earth.

    Nikola Tesla appears to have reverse engineered this kowledge to develop his radiant energy system, a device he claims produces many thousand more times the power than you'd expect due to it's ability to tap into free energy potential.



    http://www.nuenergy.org/alt/tesla_energy.htm

    In NaiKung they state that their are 72 levels of mastery...the number 72, as one of our avalon members keith hunter points out in his book 'lost age of high knowledge', is considered a sacred number in ancient geometry because it's a solar factor number, a mutiplier that links the microcosm and the macrocosm.

    http://www.numberscience.plus.com/sf72.html

    Taoist alchemy is a process where you sit in the lotus position, the body creates a kind of triangle shape. And then they process sexual energy through special meditation drawing that energy into 3 separate chambers within the body for purification, ultimately transmuting sexual energy into the golden elixir, said to bestow immortality (the ability to carry your memories and consciousness with you into the afterlife as you move on).

    If an ancient scientist took what they knew about NaiKung, taoist alchemy and ancient principles of sacred geometry and reverse engineered and combined it with Teslas understanding of radiant energy and then used this understanding to build a free energy device. Wouldn't what they come up with look a lot like the great pyramid at Giza, with it's polished limestone casings (harnessing yang energy from the sun) it's mountainous size and granite interior (harnessing the yin energy from the earth) and the 3 chambers found inside (the lower chamber, the queens chamber and the kings chamber), purifying the energy within.

    How much energy would a device like this generate? a city, a country, the planet, I find it interesting how it all ties together...I feel compelled to try and build a mini pyramid in my garden, see if i can pump out enough energy to power my home...if it doesn't work at least it'll look make a nice garden feature.

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    Hi Jayke:

    Yes, that stuff is likely quite valid. OK, here is my pyramid story. After our family took Silva:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#silva

    we were introduced to all sorts of mystical concepts (especially living in So. Cal.), including pyramid energy. My father built a wooden pyramid in the Giza dimensions. It was really only a wooden frame with plastic surfaces, and it was open at the bottom. The idea was suspending it from the ceiling over a chair, and the person in the chair would get the benefit of the energy. I am not sure how long that lasted, but the pyramid ended up hanging from the ceiling in our enclosed patio as an abandoned experiment. On a table a few feet from where the pyramid was hung, several potted plants were sitting, and one was vine-ish, with its vine hanging down off the table toward the ground. I clearly recall when that pyramid was hung. A week after it was hung, I noticed that the hanging vine had undergone an unbelievable change. The vine no longer hung straight to the ground, but about a foot down, the vine bent and the last foot or so was growing upward toward the pyramid, which was a few feet away and above the plant. I never doubted pyramid energy again.

    It humanity breaks through its inertia and the global control mechanisms, I would imagine that a host of esoteric practices will become mainstream, including more becoming Level 19s. I doubt that it will be that many, but a lot more than we hear of today.

    To your Tesla links, Moray is another one of the suppressed FE geniuses. Another very well-known tale, and a sad one, as usual.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi Hughe:

    In a belated response, war is a result of scarcity, as Fuller noted:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#soldier

    FE would eliminate scarcity, because all scarcity is based in energy scarcity. Wars are effects, not causes. Solve the cause, and the effect solves itself. I give a nod to transition strategies:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#advanced

    However, I have seen many people try to interest peace groups, churches and “environmentalists” in FE, all unsuccessfully. The Mormon Church threatened to excommunicate members who joined up with Dennis in his Patriot Movement days:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#libel

    But Mormons are apparently also one of the most influential suppressors of FE:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#mormon

    I found out the truth of “environmental” organizations long ago:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#seabrook

    So, if you ever hear of a non-profit that really wants to do good in the world and might be open to the idea of free energy and abundance, my ears are open.

    Best,

    Wade

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    Hi:

    Just a brief note, because I can see dynamics beginning that I have seen many times before. As hard as it is for newcomers to believe, especially those who are beginning to see the potential of FE, almost nobody around you will want to hear about it. Everybody that I respect in this field began their journeys naively, and all of them went through the phase of thinking that their friends and family, or do-gooder organizations, or even their corporate employers (yes, I have seen that, and watched careers end as they tried talking up FE at the water cooler) would be interested in FE and abundance. How wrong we were. Not only were they not interested, we became this huge, hostile threat that they had to attack and eliminate.

    It took me many years to understand those reactions, and it was not until being introduced to Fuller's work that I could fully articulate it: they were addicted to scarcity, and abundance would literally end the world that they knew and had devoted their life's energies into learning how to survive within. Those who have carved out their niche in hell do not want to hear about heaven. And I have watched many newcomers scoff as they ran off to go scale the ramparts or tell everybody they knew about the potential miracle of FE. It has not been easy to watch, and I avert my eyes anymore as they get skewered.

    I have watched it happen at the highest levels of the environmental movement, by people who were on a first-name basis with the biggest names in the business (yes, environmentalism is a business). I have had my own experiences countless times with the so-called Radical Left, the Peak Oilers, environmentalists, and many others that you would think would be interested. No takers. They were all trapped in layers 1 to 3 of the FE Onion:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#chart

    Again, not only are they not interested, if you mention FE to them, they go into apoplectic fits. I have seen the Venus Project and Zeitgeist lauded in this forum, but when about the biggest name in that milieu met with one of the biggest names in FE, the guy flew into a foaming-at-the-mouth rage when hearing about FE. He was a Level 3-er, which is where most of the scientifically-trained are stuck, if they ever get past Level 0.

    While I can respect people who just have to find out for themselves and have to go get scorched by the dragon to know he is real, I just hope they keep my cautions in mind as they sally forth. I am not too interested in hearing dragon tales, however. I have witnessed and heard enough of that to tide me over for the next dozen lifetimes or so.

    Best,

    Wade
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