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    Hi:

    I just got back from visiting Kansas once again with my aunt, and it was good:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#kansas

    I saw storms that looked like tornado spawners (I have been in those before, and it is an unforgettable experience, to say the least), but I was a few hundred miles from Joplin. I got some drenchings from storms while there, and miss them. Seattle merely drizzles for half of the year. With FE, buildings would not be vulnerable to quakes, tornados, tsunamis, and so on, and there would not be many cities, not like those that we see today.

    But, in my old age, I do not use "opportunities" like a tornado or drought or other distressing event to talk up FE, especially with "strangers." They are virtually all at Level 0:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#chart

    and if somebody like me talks to them, nearly all of them end up in Level 1, with the rest scattered from Levels 2 to 5. Once in a great, great while, they may move beyond that, but I have never seen a newcomer land in Level 12. As Ilie stated, those getting to Level 12 almost invariably need to go through at least parts of Levels 7 to 11, and it is understandable. Levels 0 to 11 host 99.9999% or so of humanity today. Trying to reduce that a little…

    When I was in a Kansas museum, the resident scientist bent my ear on the archeological and paleontological findings in Kansas, while also lamenting the quick emptying of the Ogallala Aquifer:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogallala_Aquifer

    which is about 100% depleted under that museum. Once again, the opportunity arose to talk about how with FE, all water issues would vanish almost overnight. But, I just bit my tongue, just like I don't talk about alternative medicine:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#lessons

    I always caution those new to FE about doing so:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#telling

    FE chat with the public is hazardous duty, not to mention with family, friends, and co-workers. Avalon's denizens have generally overcome most of those early hurdles to comprehension, which is why I am here.

    Best,

    Wade
    And I for one am so glad you are here Wade,

    I have one question, (I was going to say quick<<<<) but then maybe the answer is not. However, I have had others ask me to explain what is free energy and of course when I start to explain what I comprehend, their eyes glaze over and they say Oh Yah! and change the subject. I have to be honest and say my answer is quite esoteric versus technical and this may be the cause.

    Question??>>>>>Is there a fairly definitive explanation that would not cause the glazing over look and response?

    Good to know you are back and your trip was good. Enjoyed the post and articles and one might say your back in the saddle again here at Avalon.
    Love and Light Always/Sandy

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    Hi Sandy:

    Well, you are encountering part of the conundrum, but it is not that big of one, I think. In my second interview with Scott, I do a little explaining of the ZPF, but it is just a little:

    http://www.spectrumradionetwork.com/...inventors.html

    I have also done it a little on this thread:

    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...pins#post98022

    With the public, that is about as far as I will ever go. When Brian O began his investigations twenty years ago and began to talk publicly about his findings, he also found that the audience’s eyes would quickly glaze over when he began to talk about FE physics. Even if you try to do it around scientists, you get in trouble because you are describing something that the “laws of physics” says is “impossible.” For a few reasons, the masses and scientists are going to wake up to FE when it is delivered to their home, like Machiavelli said:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#machiavelli

    When I present the rudiments of thermodynamics in my site, I just cover the basics:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#industrial

    In short, the lay audience is not interested in FE physics (who knows how their TV or computer works?), the scientifically-trained are almost never receptive because FE physics defies the physics texts, and anybody who may really be interested is usually thinking along the FE tinkerer lines, so wants to go rush into the lion’s den. So, nobody is really interested, or those who are, are usually interested for the wrong reasons. That is part of the conundrum. And when people do get into the physics, like a Tom Bearden or Sparky Sweet, they either do not tell everything, for “proprietary” reasons, or because they want to protect tinkerers from themselves, or maybe they do not know what they are talking about (or they do it for self-preservation reasons), but Sparky sure demonstrated that he had the goods.

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#sweet

    I do not really approve of that “don’t give them the goodies, or just hint at it” approach myself, but it is pretty universal. As I have said many times, the only prayer that I see with the tinkerer/capitalist approach to FE is for an inventor with the goods to give it to a worthy group, and I have never met the inventor willing to give it away or heard of a worthy group.

    For instance, in my upcoming essay, there is going to be a lot of science in it, but probably few or no equations. I will have plenty of pictures, however. I am going to be taking on what may be a foolish task and help the layman gain at least a rudimentary understanding of the energy situation, and how life on the Earth and the human journey depend on it. I hope to provide enough education so that interested laypeople are not distracted by all the “solutions” paraded around today, such as air cars, biofuels and the usual suspects of alternative energy. It should not be that hard to show that those “solutions” are not really solutions, but we will see.

    With FE, there are two primary upshots of its implications, and they are rather distinct and have different constituencies. The first is that the hydrocarbon economy is not only unsustainable (if we are not at Peak Oil already, we will be there soon), but the side-effects are devastating to humanity and the planet (oil-control genocides – think Iraq – air pollution, the energy-scarcity methods of mining and so forth). You really have to have your head in the sand, or have a vested interest in the current energy industry, to deny that aspect of it.

    The second aspect is that FE can take humanity’s energy-per-capita consumption from today’s fifteen or so (the multiple of a person’s daily dietary caloric intake) to ten thousand, and there would be virtually no environmental impact to it, either. That is where the heaven-on-Earth territory begins to come into view:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/abund.htm#abundance

    The environmentalists,

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/purpose...ironmentalists

    Peak Oilers

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm

    and many other hair-shirt groups are violently opposed to that second aspect of the issue. It was mind-boggling to witness those denials, but they are universal. As far as I know, I am the first person to state that they are all due to being hooked on scarcity-based ideologies:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

    It took many years to figure it out.

    I am not sure if that answered your question, but I have never seen anybody have a successful conversation about FE physics with the public.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi:

    My previous response inspired me a little to write about FE and disruptive technology. There are disruptive energy technologies, there are FE devices, in various stages of development, and there are FE devices that win the prize, like the solid state FE device that Sparky Sweet had. They have some overlaps, but are distinctly different categories.

    One of the most common reactions, especially for technical professionals, is to ask where they can go see a FE machine in action. If they can't go see, touch, and test one, then they think that FE is probably impossible:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm#circular

    Bucky remarked on how the establishment fully encourages such naïveté in its technical professionals:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#naive

    Scientists who take that approach have no idea how the world really works, and I do not mean the "laws of physics" part, either. I mean that capitalism is a system founded on greed, and capitalists always seek to derail disruptive technologies before they can disrupt their markets, and that they cooperate with each other to derail threats coming from the outside. Even Adam Smith wrote about it long ago:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#smith2

    and FE would be, by far, history's most disruptive technology. A long time before Dennis ever thought of FE, he was bringing disruptive energy technologies to market. His systems for savings programs are the closest thing to FE that has ever been on the market:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#sfs

    He then began finding out the hard way how capitalism really works and how capitalists protect their markets from competition and disruption. His effort in Seattle:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#run

    is probably the greatest attempt that anybody ever made to bring alternative energy to the American marketplace, but other than my account of it, almost nobody has ever heard of it, and virtually nobody seems to ever be interested, at least from the public. The Big Boys, however, and their minions, are highly aware of his efforts, so Dennis has been dogged by a "skeptic" since 1996,

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#friends

    and several national TV shows over the years have lied about his past, to help ensure that nobody ever looks too deeply into the matter. For anybody who was serious about trying to develop FE for the marketplace, Dennis's experiences comprise the greatest textbook that they could ever hope to study. But as I stated earlier, to this day, I have yet to encounter even one person from the public who has obtained Dennis's books on his adventures.

    That situation is another aspect of the conundrum. I have yet to see a would-be FE aspirant who has ever really done his homework before he begins to try scaling the ramparts. Such people are usually in various levels of denial and naïveté, and have no interest in learning from the experiences of those who blazed those paths in the real world long ago. They are lambs to the slaughter, and willfully ignorant lambs. It is like that famous saying about those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it. The good news, I suppose, is that people with that attitude will almost never progress along the path far enough to really do anything productive, so they cannot get into too much trouble.

    I may make some more "conundrum" posts in the near future. Again, I am trying to help develop some Level 12s, and understanding the conundrum's facets is vital to becoming a Level 12. What people like Sandy are doing, chatting up people on FE, can actually be a good learning experience, because they will be able to see the Level 1 to Level 4 responses pretty quickly, and what I am writing will begin to make more sense. Experience is the greatest, and maybe only, teacher.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi:

    I just finished an interview with Brian O and David Gibbons:

    http://www.davidgibbons.org/

    I am not sure when it will air. It is always a pleasure to be on with Brian. Part of me is amazed to be on with somebody like Brian, where I just want to sit and listen on a subject like that. All I can say, when I hear somebody like Brian, is "Right on!"

    I am doing another one with David, Brian and Jeane Manning on Monday. That one might be live:

    http://www.davidgibbons.org/id324.html

    I just don't know enough about how David's site works. It looks like David is going the commercial-free subscription model. While I admire that stance, that is a hard one to pull off.

    Best,

    Wade

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    Hi:

    When Brian and I did the Camelot interview, I was asked about Ring, and did not know anything about him. That interview with him that Hughe posted, and in looking at Ring's site, is an example of what I am not trying to do with my work. Ring's story, if true, is an example of the many dead-end paths. Working in government labs and thinking that they would welcome your bright ideas, approaching Detroit, applying for patents, the capitalist approach – these are all naïve approaches. All of those approaches are misdirections, in my opinion, but almost nobody can seem to climb out of those ruts. I talked about it some here (about 13 minutes in, and I go into it in other clips of that interview):

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI39RzWxCOQ

    I guess that more than 100,000 efforts have disappeared down those rabbit holes. It is on the record that the USA's federal government has seized more than 3,000 inventions, primarily energy-related, under the "national security" laws, and the Big Boys have paid off far more than 10,000 people with their Golden Handcuffs program:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#payoff

    And those were the "successful" inventors who reached the stage where they developed something worth suppressing. My guess is that at least 100,000 inventors never got far enough along to where they did anything potentially threatening (they never had anything in the first place, the Gold Rush effect infected their allies, they fell to their own foibles, and so forth) and at least another 20,000 succumbed to the subtle tactics that caused them to fall on their swords. Of the 10,000+ who got the Golden Handcuffs, I am sure that the vast majority of them did not even figure out that they got the Golden Handcuffs. They did it for the money anyway, and once they sold the rights to their gizmos, they were preoccupied with counting their money and getting a tan in the Bahamas. Our first offer was that friendly buyout offer:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#ten

    Only the reluctant ones receive the escalating tactics.

    Ring's early story is similar to that of my first professional mentor, who naïvely believed that the Pentagon would welcome his bomb that did not hurt people but destroyed weaponry:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#_edn1

    About a year ago, I was almost forced to sit and watch that recent documentary on John Searl. Like Ring's interviews, it was a lot of pretty talk and pictures of those supposed craft that can go to Mars on their lunch hour, but they generally only provide still pictures of them sitting on the ground. If they were legit, they either had all the good stuff confiscated (and only have still pictures of their "craft" sitting on the ground left over – anybody with the funding to make what they allegedly did, could have easily made many movies of them flying around), never had it in the first place, or are playing the game of "if there is enough interest, then I will show it off." Dennis is playing a similar game with his "If I get a million people sitting in stadiums for the show, then I will show it off" approach. That is the faith approach, and I have no interest in that.

    Again, I am trying to do something different. In my interview yesterday, I said that the only chance that an inventor has is to give it away, but that is part of the conundrum. I am sympathetic to the newcomer delusions that keep them stuck in Levels 6 to 11:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#chart

    They are "reasonable" traps to fall into, but they are traps nevertheless.

    The only prayer that FE has, by the inventor route, is for somebody with the goods to give it to a worthy group. I have never met that inventor, and I have never heard of that worthy group. When I hear stuff like, "we have it, but we are keeping it secret until the time is right," all the usual alarm bells go off. First, anybody can make that claim. Second, playing the secrecy game is doomed. You can't hide from the Big Boys, so anybody playing the secrecy game is really hiding from the public. Why are they doing that? These are all aspects of the conundrum.

    I really hope to lead the conversation way, way past tinkering inventors, would-be heroes thinking that they can scale the ramparts, etc. I do not expect to have a large audience. I do not have any spectacle to offer, no promise of riches, and none of the other "bait" that is regularly used in this field. I am hoping to help people think comprehensively. If enough people can get there, maybe my approach has a chance.

    We will see.

    Best,

    Wade
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    As a PS to my previous post, in our interview yesterday, Brian talked of another situation. Again, I do not keep my ear to the ground, like Brian or Sterling do, on the latest FE aspirant, but Brian related a situation that was another variation on the theme that I had not heard before. In the last half of my second interview with Scott and Tom (which was really part of our first interview session):

    http://www.spectrumradionetwork.com/...inventors.html

    Tom asked about why the USA is almost all we ever hear about on the FE front. I replied that Brian has kept his ear to the ground and has trotted the globe, meeting FE inventors scattered across the planet. Brian said that most of the inventing and suppressing happens in the USA. I also mentioned that almost from the time that I got involved with Dennis, the question came up, many times, if there was someplace else on Earth where people like us could work unhindered, and from what I saw, there was no such place.

    In the interview, Brian related a recent instance when some FE inventor and his supporters were about to move away from the USA to try to get a better chance, but the guy's lawyer talked him out of it.

    I did not laugh out loud when I heard that, but I did say that it was a new twist that I had not heard before. However, it was not a surprising twist. I imagine that the lawyer's concern was about inventor's rights and other economic benefits that might be put in jeopardy if they moved abroad (or maybe it had to do with legal risk in other nations, but I somehow doubt that that was the lawyer's concern). Again, self-interest and the FE pursuit are like oil and water; they have never successfully mixed. The only people that have come anywhere close to success had saintly motivation. Those operating from self-interest are laughably easy to derail in this milieu.

    As I talked about in that interview, and I have stated publicly often enough, I have been living with the potential of FE for about half of my life, and I can barely imagine what it can do, as far as transforming the human journey. It would dwarf all previous epochal transitions of the human journey:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#revolutions

    To say it is big stuff is to understate it. However, almost all would-be FE inventors operate from the standard inventor mindset – trying to become rich and famous – and when they do that in this field, they are defeated before they begin, but the "lucky" ones get the Golden Handcuffs.

    Bringing the inventor's mindset to the FE issue is part of the conundrum. Anybody who will be productive in this field will have left behind that mentality long ago, but I can count people like that almost on one hand.

    Best,

    Wade

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    Hi Wade,

    Yes you more than answered my question. So much reading and comprehending I got way behind in my spring gardening not to mention house work Oh well, I think of it like mental therapy and a prevention program for Alzheimers. I need all the help I can get!!

    The gardening is done and now I look forward to Mother Nature taking her course with all the beauty of new growth about to spring forth!

    Can hardly wait for the new interview. I checked out the website but not a mention of it so will look forward to your post announcing when the interview will be aired. I was thinking that you are blessed to have Brian for a friend and again thought he was another amazing person placed on your path as a support for you and your life's mission. It does all go back to your boyhood dream.

    I was reading today and really found your comments about Autism very interesting. I really like the Kryon material and remembered he stated in one of his channeling that people with Autism where stuck between dimensions. Thus their intellectual smarts and lack of social skills or concerns for others. I think there might be a lot of truth in what he says.

    I do bring up FE when others are complaining about any of the world's ism's but never harp on it as you are right and I will only continue if they continue to ask questions. I will add the torsion aspect along with the ethereal though, as I think it does add legitimacy to the intellectual concept of how it works, so thanks for reminding me of that.

    Well back to more learning and reading. Thanks for all the references with your writings as sometimes I do find the mass amount of material on your website quite daunting at times.
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    Hello Everyone :)

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    Again, self-interest and the FE pursuit are like oil and water; they have never successfully mixed. The only people that have come anywhere close to success had saintly motivation. Those operating from self-interest are laughably easy to derail in this milieu.
    Wade please - you ought to find another contradiction quickly :)
    Oil and water do mix after all [New Scientist, 19 February 2003]

    I would like to clarify two issues that bother me.

    1) Wade, you say that "garage tinkering" will not produce any viable FE technology. What do you actually have on your mind?

    My first understanding of your statement about garage inventor was that garage level technology is too low level to address FE technological challenge. My second thought was that it would be quite easy for GC to steal such device from somebody's house. Or even kill the tinkerer. And maybe frame another in that crime.

    In one of your essays you described fellow traveler who build working device in his university lab. He was of course compromised in short time. And he did it second time at his friend's house with same results. I remember how I was angry with you when I had read that story two years ago. I have forgiven you. I feel compassion for you that I was angry at you. And I see your point now. But what about 10000+ "gold handcuffed" inventors? Were they not working in their garages? How about John Bedini, and his monopole motor and "Renaissance" battery chargers? They work. You can buy one with your CC. Why GC let them go? Is it because they are pretty sure that people would not "risk" their money? (regrettably including myself :( It is so strange).

    But if Bedini is still alive (I have heard there was an attempt at his life) then maybe GC are losing they grip on world and it would be easier and easier every day for FE to enter market. Maybe it is a sign of more people raising their awareness?

    2) Wade, I really appreciate your work and your presence in this lifetime. You helped me to avoid "the meat grinder" :). But please forgive me for that what I am about to write now. When I read your work I feel like there is no hope for FE happening. And it is not because you say of GC or lack of proper technology. It is because of integrity-scarcity. It is because you say that 99,99% of humanity is at level 0. It is true. But you talk like there is no chance we can change that. You talk like there is no hope for waking people up (please tell me I am wrong!). Just by thinking like that we actually make it happen. Please let us stop it now. I do not intend to talk people up in FE if I am not being asked for it. I think of wishing people to wake up. We can give them our "permission" to wake up. To believe they can do it. No matter what, no matter how and no matter when. I think of praying for people to wake them up. Maybe somebody prayed for us to wake up? Who knows? People can change themselves. And they do it all the time. Let us give them some of our free spiritual energy to help them make it :)

    Best wishes
    Robert

    PS: I once tried to tinker. It was lower level than garage level ;) It was kitchen table level! ;) And I know that tinkerer is lurking somewhere waiting to pop up ;) Not for money. Yuck! I do not like money. I would rather like we all live in abundance without any "money". I know it will happen someday :)

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    Hi, all. I am coming to a place where I really need to limit my activity in this forum for a while. There are too many other demands on my life, and I need to meet them, as well as get that essay written. I am planning on getting to where I only look at and respond to posts on the weekends. We will see how it goes.

    Hi Sandy:

    Good luck on the garden. My wish for my old age is to be a happy gardener. If I get to do that, it will be a good run. I am in the autism spectrum,

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm#circular

    so I can relate to the “nerds.” I am closer to “normal” than Bill Gates, for instance, but I could never be a politician or a media personality. I am a hermit by nature. If we are dimension-straddling, according to that Pollyanna Zoosh, that makes some sense.

    On the references, those are largely so that people can do their own homework. In college, I read the scientific specialist literature, for instance, but I pretty much will never refer to the specialized literature in my writings, partly because I am addressing the lay audience, by and large, and also because I read the popularized literature myself. When I read the specialized literature, especially in the sciences, it is rarely something that I am going to recommend to my readers.

    Hi Robert. Yours is a timely post. First, I am going to write the post I was originally planning on writing, and then I will address your specific questions/observations.

    If you have followed this thread, you will see many questions about FE inventors. My initial orientation to the energy issue was technological:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse

    and then from the business end of it:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#hitting

    Those are not my orientations anymore, and I am trying to do something different. While I enjoyed my interviews with Scott and Tom, for instance, and while I believe that those interviews have important information for would-be FE aspirants, it is not really the subject matter that I want to develop a conversation around. The Dennises, Bedinis, Beardens, and so on, are playing the FE inventor’s and businessman’s games. I do not play anymore, partly because it is life-risking behavior, and also because I never saw any good come from playing those games, and also because it encourages the public to play passive spectator, kind of like watching a horserace and alternately cheering or booing. While everybody gets swept up in the spectacle of heroes trying to scale the ramparts, the important issues, the ones that everybody should be thinking about, are ignored while everybody watches the horseraces. And when the horserace is over, they then flip the channel to Dancing with the Stars. To a large degree, the horseraces are a distraction to really making it happen, as paradoxical as that may seem. I am largely alone in the field with that understanding, I am sad to say, but I have to take my path.

    With my recent interview with Brian (and I am going to do it again on Monday), the conversation once again swirled around some FE hero saving the day with his device. While I understand the sense of desperation that is palpable when the conversation deals with such subject matter, I am trying to mount a very different conversation. However, it looks like I have to deal with the karma of being involved with Dennis and inventors, because almost nobody has any interest in the FE issue unless somebody is scaling the ramparts. That dynamic is another big reason, IMO, why we do not have FE today. The public is fast asleep, awakening for a moment when somebody like Dennis begins to scale the ramparts, and they are amused or horrified when he falls in flames from the castle wall once again, and he has yet to get halfway up it. The FE pursuit as a NASCAR spectacle is not productive activity, as far as I have seen.

    FE prototypes have been publicly demonstrated many, many times over many years. Moray’s device was observed many times by scientists from around the world, and disassembled and reassembled. That was back in the 1930s, and many other demonstrations have been made since then, publicly, by people like Trombly, doing it right in downtown Manhattan, and with people like Sparky Sweet mailing working prototypes to the big energy institutions. They were lambs to the slaughter, all of them. And, a demonstrable prototype is a long, long way from something that is market ready. The gulf between those two is on the order of hundreds of millions of dollars. FE tinkerers do not have a prayer, not in today’s world. I am always going to discourage that dangerous newcomer foolishness.

    My upcoming essay is intended to put a pretty big stake in the ground that I can begin to mount a conversation around, a conversation that is not concerned with the latest FE aspirant and his attempts to scale the ramparts. Once awareness of the important issues grows (and it will be in a very small audience; I have no illusions that the masses are going to be interested), then that vital nugget of awareness may be on its way to being built.

    That nugget of awareness has always been missing from all efforts that I ever witnessed. That is the heart-centered sentience that I write about. It is an awareness of how energy runs the world and always has, how the energy situation has propelled evolution, how humanity’s activities have always been primary concerned with the acquisition, preservation and use of energy, and how the energy situation has shaped all of our civilizations, ideologies and so forth. Then, and only then, does the potential of FE begin to truly be understood, understood in a way that is not distracted by the latest horserace, the latest aspirant, the latest “solution” bandied about by the establishment, etc. I am going to be aiming high, and when I get that invitation-only forum going, it is not going to be dominated by questions about the latest FE aspirant and whether he has it or not. I am not going to allow those questions, except in passing. That is a kind of voyeuristic activity, and people like Dennis have encouraged it, which is partly why I have to keep fielding questions or posts on the latest aspirant, over and over and over. Impatience is my Achilles heel, and when I do stuff like post at Avalon, I get to work on my issue, repeatedly.

    Again, I am really trying to do something different, so different that I have never seen anybody come close to trying it. Some of what Brian does can appear close at times, but he is trying to build an inventor’s sanctuary in Ecuador, and is working with people who want to go try to scale the ramparts. Been there, done that, repeatedly. I am not interested anymore, especially when I see the aspirants lining up to scale the ramparts, and very few of them even have a scratch on their armor yet. I see them play boy-general, with their strategies that clearly demonstrate that they have never really been on the battlefield. Nobody has ever played the game at Dennis’s level before (he was putting disruptive energy technology on the market, in a way that nobody else has ever come close to doing), and when I see the aspirants line up, as they boast of how they will slay the dragon, I really don’t want to watch. If any aspirant ends up scaling the ramparts, it will be because he was allowed to, not due to his unique virtue.

    So, on to your questions/observations, and it is fine for you to pose them. To your first question, I hope that the text above answered it. Before a tinkerer ever gets the public’s attention to any significant degree, he will attract Godzilla’s attention. The tinkerers, however, almost universally deny that situation, with the most naïve thinking that Godzilla does not even exist or can be reasoned with, or they think that they can sneak past Godzilla, wake up the villagers quickly enough that Godzilla will shy away, think that they will fire the arrow that brings Smaug down, and so forth. I have more than hinted at it in my writings and this thread: when Godzilla begins to munch on you, not only do your friends, family and “allies” not try to defend you, they actually cheer Godzilla on and help feed you to him. Again, nobody wants to believe that…..until they have been there. And by then, it is too late. As I talked about in this segment with Scott,

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI39RzWxCOQ

    it was pretty incredible to watch all the media lies about us when the sledgehammer came down, and the capper for me was reading a several-thousand-word LA Times “investigative report" on us. I have rarely bothered to read or watch a media account of Dennis ever since, except to witness the bold-faced lies told by people like Mr. Skeptic, as he took off his mask for all with eyes to see:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#dishonest

    Once they remove their masks, I am finished with them, but it is amazing to watch other "hip" people in the field fall under their spell:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/skeptic.htm

    The establishment and their minions can simply make it up as they go. But the worst part was not that the media is such a lie factory, and that my friends, family and “allies” bought the lies hook, line and sinker, but a number of them even piled on, even those who got hit by Godzilla’s tail. They knew that Godzilla was evil, as were his minions in the media and government establishment, but they believed that if they got on their knees and worshipped him, that he would not lash them again with his tail. One close family member even made a scrapbook from all of those lying articles and took it on tour to my friends, family and investors, telling the story of “Wade the Crook.” I think that most people have to experience it to understand, unfortunately.

    So, when I hear of the next FE tinkerer, thinking that he is going to go scale the ramparts, I want to cry, but I usually laugh instead. But, almost nobody wants to hear about how reality works, thinking that they have it all figured out, and that if they get a FE prototype going, the “magic of capitalism” or other magic carpet will take them to The Promised Land. Those are fatal delusions, but again, tapping the ZPF is a lot harder than it looks, so most FE tinkerers are masturbating and will not get in too much trouble, other than blowing their life’s savings and wrecking their marriages while pursuing their delusions of grandeur.

    To your first question, it is both; the FE tinkerer will never be able to make anything production-ready, and if he taps the ZPF, seizing it is child’s play for the Big Boys. If the tinkerer is “lucky,” he will get the friendly buyout offer. If he is not so lucky, his life will be wrecked, and many have had their lives prematurely terminated, and not only by Godzilla. Godzilla is the undisputed King of the Jungle, but the jungle is also filled with T-Rexes and velociraptors.

    On the Bedinis and other FE tinkerers, maybe, just maybe, a stampede of tinkerers can trample Godzilla, but as I have said many times, the only prayer that I see for the tinkerer route is for the tinkerer with the goods to give it to a worthy group. Since virtually all tinkerers do it to get rich and famous, I have never met one who was willing to give it away, if by some miracle he actually tapped the ZPF in his garage or workshop. I have also never seen or heard of that worthy group, and that is because of my primary lesson that also is something that nobody wants to admit (unless they actually get some experience on the high road): personal integrity is the world’s scarcest commodity:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

    It is related to your second question. The numbers are the numbers. They aren’t good or bad, they just are. Only one-in-many-thousands of people possesses the personal integrity to get very far along the FE path, and 99.99% of humanity is trapped in the early layers of the FE onion. Those are the numbers, and wishing that they were different might seem comforting, but it does not address reality. These are the beings that we share the planet with, as painful as it can be to admit. As I have written about many times, newcomers almost invariably try to see if my work can be used to reach the masses, or they try their own way, hoping to sneak past people’s ego mechanisms so that they can glimpse FE and its potential. That is a foolish and understandable dream, but everybody who gets into this field has to go through that phase, it seems. The average person will wake up to FE when it is delivered to his home, as Machiavelli observed long ago:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#machiavelli

    Anybody hoping for something different has not been on the high road for very long. But, that certainly does not mean that I have given up. My work is not designed for the masses, to cater to their self-serving delusions, and so forth. I am seeking people who do not need their ego stroked, who do not need to be paid to think about the truth, who have a hunger for the truth and are willing to get out of their easy chairs to pursue it. Those people are about one-in-a-thousand in the general population, but they are my target audience. Before the advent of the Internet, there was simply no feasible way to try to reach them, but I am taking advantage of this new technology to try. Again, I have no illusions or even desire to think that I am going to reach Joe Average. I have watched my “peers,” even ones who thought that they were hip, blow a fuse when reading introductory parts of my site such as this:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#progress

    I have seen them go off like Roman candles, as my pals thought they would introduce their “hip” friends to my work. I have seen friendships end over my work. It has been pretty painful to watch that happen, and I highly discourage people from introducing my work to their friends and family, hoping to see their eyes light up in recognition. Prime Time is not ready for my work, and it is naïve to think so. I have an American college professor pal who reads that “losers” section, which I linked to above, to his college classes. When he finishes reading it, the class just sits there, stunned. He has tenure, so has not been fired for reading it, yet.

    But, if enough of those “one-in-a-thousand” can lay aside all of those scarcity-based ideologies long enough:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

    to learn to sing the abundance song (and not to their friends and family! Not now), maybe what I am attempting to mount can go somewhere. I have not really even begun, but one day before long, I hope to. This thread, for instance, is stuck in all of the beginner’s questions and observations. That is OK. It is a phase that everybody seems to need to go through, but it is really at the first step of a very long journey of understanding how the world really works, what the opportunities and dangers are, and so forth. There are no short cuts. A few people on this thread seem to be taking me seriously, and will be listening when I embark on what I hope to achieve. I am not expecting it to be a large audience, but I am aiming for quality, not quantity. It is very possible that what I learned cannot be taught, but people need a little taste of the meat grinder before they can begin to wake up to reality. I really hope that is not the case, because if it is, my efforts may well be for naught, and this is one of the last untried avenues on this quest. Very few people can survive the meat grinder for more than a moment.

    Again, it is natural to want to tell your friends and family the “good news” of FE, but I am trying to do something different. When a choir is formed, instead of those who have awakened being squeaky lone voices in the wilderness, maybe more will be able to hear a choir, but it will not be Joe Average, but more on the fringes of those who are waking up. If enough of the “one-in-a-thousand” can form a choir, maybe they can reach some of those “one-in-a-hundred” people. It would not take many awakened people to make FE happen, not really. A hundred heroes or an abundance choir of ten thousand would be more than enough to make it happen. With nearly seven billion of us in the pool of possible contenders, I am not asking for much.

    This is not easy stuff; it is not sexy, and it obviously demands patience that few can muster, but it is a path that nobody has tried before, as far as I have seen. It is not “elite,” in that anybody can do it. There is no net-worth or educational requirement, although I plan to have a pretty cerebral conversation, the kind that New Agers are rarely qualified to engage in. I am looking for people with a love of the truth and a willingness to get out of their easy chairs to pursue it. While that may seem easy, it is not. In a world of scarcity, people cling to the delusions that feed them. Their “truth” rarely ventures beyond their immediate self-interest, and they do so out of fear. As I said in my recent interview with Brian, if FE was publicly available, people might begin to emerge from their shells and would eventually leave behind all the subtle, fear-based games that are played almost universally in today’s world.

    I have no illusions that even many in Avalon are going to begin to understand. While I highly appreciate what Bill has done at Avalon to keep it from becoming another ATS:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/critics.htm#troll2

    you are one of the very few people at Avalon with the courage to use your own name. And using your own name is about one-thousandth of the courage needed to try scaling the FE ramparts. Look at all the people who not only do not use their names, but the pictures they post of themselves look like they came from a Lord of the Rings convention, trying to look like Gandalf or Arwen, etc. Dennis is the only person I know of on the planet who can successfully complete this application:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#howmany

    One of my close pals took exception to that list of qualifications and said, "Hey, Mandela would qualify!" My reply was, "OK, now we have two!" Mandela actually would not qualify, either, but fifty Mandelas might just be enough to make scaling the ramparts a feasible strategy. But two do not have a prayer. But, I am not looking for heroes to go scale the ramparts, and when I see anonymous people pose like Gandalf and think that they can lead the charge or sneak past Godzilla, I shake my head, sometimes with a wry smile, but usually in sorrow.

    My effort may also be another path of delusion, but I am not risking anybody's life, except maybe my own (I hope not, but you never know), to try it.

    I hope that that addressed your questions.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Gee Wade,

    The last chuck(post) of reality was pretty heavy to digest, however the truth can be brutal to one's sense or belief in humankind for sure. I have been through much drama, turmoil, danger and violence in my life however nothing to the level of what Dennis has been through. For him to continue to be optimistic to this day is something that is spiritual as no ego could withstand the shattering and still come back believing and continuing the original dream. There is no doubt about your admiration for this man and no doubt he is worthy of such. It is sad that his journey has been so difficult and makes me wonder about his choices and souls destiny,

    Glad to hear you on going to spend more time doing what is a priority for you and will be happy to hear how it is going for you on the weekends. I'll try to keep my questions to a minimum.
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    Hi Sandy:

    Yes, I put some “heavy” stuff out there, but it is only the truth as I see it. I am not going to sugar-coat it, because that is trying to dance around the ego, and we have to put our egos in the back seat if we are going to get over the hump. The truth will set us free, and until people understand how the land lays, they go haring off in all manner of unproductive and dangerous directions. Many do not believe me or are “skeptical,” and have to go find out for themselves, if they can ever extract themselves from their easy chairs. For those that do, I wish them the best in surviving the education that they are about to begin.

    The hardships that you have been through in your life are partly why you are here on this thread, if I may be so bold. If people have not tasted the reality of how this world really stacks up, they are easily led astray. You can see it in this thread, and it is something that I have seen for many years now: most who have some understanding of what I am saying are not Americans. Very few Americans want to hear what I have to say, because it destroys their nationalistic conceits:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm

    Even in the USA, when I find people who begin to understand, they almost invariably are not born in the USA, but are immigrants who did not drink the American-flavored Kool-Aid when young. When my mid-life crisis crested in 2006 with my invitation to the White House (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#crisis), and my wife again began insisting that I get professional help, I had to approach four different professionals before I could get one to treat me, and it was the first non-American (an Iraqi, of all things). The rest could not handle what I had been through. It either blew away their beliefs of how the USA really worked (one thought that I was an Axis-II, because this brief recounting of my experiences - http://www.ahealedplanet.net/skeptic.htm - could not possibly be accurate, but was the product of a deeply sick mind ), or they thought that the CIA would come visit them because they treated me. It was a frustrating process.

    As I have mentioned on this thread before, everybody that I have seen play at the high levels comes to a moment when they are disgusted with humanity, but those still active learned to overcome it, and they overcame it with love. Mark Twain and Albert Einstein, two of the greatest people that the West has yet produced, gave up on humanity at the end of their lives. It is easy to see why, for both of them.

    Dennis is truly one-of-a-kind. I have had many psychic readings and private channelings over the years; they have usually been mind-blowing, and my journey with Dennis and others was usually the central theme. Dennis is on some sort of special assignment, as am I and a few others who were centrally involved. Being on a special assignment can seem to be a very dubious blessing, I can tell you. I will be picking up the pieces of my shattered life for the rest of my days, but I have no regrets. I would not have learned what I did without taking that ride.

    If our full story was publicly told, it would seem way over-the-top preposterous. That voice in my head:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice2

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#voice3

    as dramatic as that might seem, was quite tame compared to what Dennis and others experienced.

    I mentioned it on this thread, I believe, but when I lived with Dennis in Boston and we began our Big Days together, he said that people really cared, but did not have anything to care about, and we were going to give them something to care about:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#chasing

    With no other frame of reference, yet, I believed him. Fast forward ten years, when I briefly went back to work for him in New Jersey, and he admitted that almost nobody really cares, but that he was sifting through the mine tailings of humanity, looking for the flakes of gold. He is still sifting today, and still playing his Indiana Jones role, with the federal government hounding him and him enduring all manner of nightmare, and he does it happily. He is a better man than me, and I have a difficult time understanding what makes him tick. I was there for many of his craziest adventures, and I have a difficult time understanding what he lived through.

    The Big Boys have taken Dennis very seriously since the big takedown in Seattle:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#run

    That billion dollar bribe was just part of the attention that he has received:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#offer

    He was certainly at least a one-percent problem for them. That bribe might rank in the top five incredible events that he experienced, but it might not.

    Someday, I may be able to tell the whole story, and if I do, it will seem like some very tall tale-telling. I was there for a great deal of the fireworks, and sometimes I sit back and wonder if it really happened like it did, because so many events were far larger than life.

    But, I have no more desire for adventures, and am taking a decidedly different path than being Indiana Jones’s sidekick. I do not want any more rides like that one. In some ways, what I am attempting to do can be seen as support activity for the Indiana Jones stuff, but what I really hope for is that an abundance choir makes it so that Indiana Jones’s heroics are not needed anymore.

    I have no idea if what I am trying is going to help get us over the hump, but it was something that I never saw anybody else try before. I have some ideas of what I may be able to help catalyze, but I am really making it up as I go. I know that an aware and engaged public is a huge part of what is missing, but a mass movement must necessarily cater to the lowest-common-denominator, and you cannot out-herd the shepherd. Because I am aiming higher, there will be less of a “mass,” but from what I saw, there really do not need to be that many awakened people to move humanity over the hump. There were only a handful of us at the core, and for a while, what we were doing had the Big Boys’ full attention.

    I have a long weekend ahead of me, and hope to get some work done on that essay, so I had better get at it.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Wade and friends,

    I am in a hurry today but I just thought I'd chime in.

    I thank you Wade for solidifying my own ideas in this area. I am especially thankful to learn there are others out there in the world with similar mindsets. Abundance minded thinking is a pickle, but it can be acheived through direct conscious awareness - Raising the level of vibration to where abundance is fact. (As an aside, a lot of us here on this forum seem to be of the Sumari race, according to Seth. I'm not sure if that is of much significance...)

    Anyways, those are my scattered thoughts on this hectic day.

    Peace,
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    Hi:

    As I have been doing my research on the energy essay, I want to make a post on an aspect of the FE situation and establishment science, which will be quite germane to my essay.

    Although history’s greatest physicists were a bunch of mystics (Hawking’s recent embarrassing materialistic spectacle aside – but Sagan writing the intro to A Brief History of Time was telling):

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#mystical

    their understandings are completely missing from the annals of establishment science, and people like Carl Sagan endlessly debunked anything that strayed from the materialistic party-line, and Sagan was a typically dishonest practitioner of the trade:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#sagan

    as has been the case with virtually every “skeptic” that I ever encountered, with Dennis’s chief “skeptical” assailant guilty of breathtaking dishonesty:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#dishonest

    His blatant dishonesty is actually a badge of honor amongst the “skeptical” and media establishment, as he has been prominently featured in all of the national TV shows that have been broadcast on Dennis in the past dozen years or so. That he is a media darling is pretty much all that I would need to present to prove what fraudulent institutions the mainstream media and organized skepticism are, but I have also spent a long, long time analyzing the media and how it performs:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#big

    It can be argued that, “OK, the media is a fraudulent lie factory, but institutional science is guided by the scientific method and if anything is legitimate, science will validate it.” Bucky Fuller remarked on the naïveté of scientists:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#naive

    and how science had been intentionally made into a slave profession by the capital class, with science’s practitioners wearing specialist blinders, never seeing the forest, but becoming tree specialists instead.

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#slave

    That kind of tunnel vision is beginning to wane, with the increasing multi-disciplinary efforts being made in recent years. Will that trend be enough to get us over the hump?

    But even at the specialist level, down in the “bedrock” of science, many “anomalies” are pointedly ignored, to the point where it cannot be admitted that the ignorance is anything but intentional. Kuhn’s “normal science”

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#introduction

    cannot explain the innumerable instances of active denial that institutional science has engaged in. There is no such thing as pure science, and the more that “alternative” science threatens entrenched political-economic interests, the more that not only active ignoring takes place, but also inquisitorial behavior rears its head, and institutional scientists fully play along, as they keep their careers in their soft berths intact. I am going to provide several indisputable examples, examples that sit there in the full light of day today, and are not only ignored by establishment science, but many of them have been subjected to “holy war” tactics, as the establishment seeks to destroy all of the disquieting data.

    Recently, another person who has tried to resurrect Rife’s work has gone to prison:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_R...d_health_fraud

    If you look across the Internet, all that you will see in the establishment accounts is what a fraud Rife was, and even when establishment scientists supposedly investigated his microscope, it is always dismissed, and more than suggested that it was an elaborate Rube Goldberg device that was mainly for show. Fortunately, images survive that Rife’s scope took back in the 1930s, images that proved that it attained its “impossible” resolutions:

    http://www.xenophilia.com/zb0012a.htm#8

    In light of the micrographs that survive, it is mind-boggling that the denial persists in the scientific establishment. That the debunkers and other hatchetmen of the medical and scientific establishments had evil agendas is hard to dispute, but what about the rest of the scientists, supposedly on a quest for data, truth and a better way? The silence has been deafening. Gaston Naessens independently invented a microscope like Rife’s, back in the 1940s. The images from his scope not only survive, but the microscopes exist today and can be looked through by anybody who wants to take the time:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#naessens

    But look at the Wikipedia page that comes up when you hunt for Naessens:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaston_Naessens

    Not only is his microscope not even mentioned, the only references from that Wikipedia page, maintained by an extremely ardent troll, are to debunkers like Stephen Barrett:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#barrett

    and racketeering organizations like the American Cancer Society:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#steal

    On the subject of those microscopes, it is a variation of a famous saying, “Who are you going to believe, the scientific establishment and its debunkers or your lying eyes?”

    If it was just suppressing some devices, that would be one thing, but the findings of those microscopes completely overturn the foundations of today’s biology. Because Rife’s and Naessens’s scopes used light instead of electrons, they did not kill what they looked at, and the movies of life processes taken by those scopes reveal a completely different world than the snapshots of death that electron microscopes show. It is stupefying that such a situation exists right under the nose of the scientific establishment, and when I have tried getting scientists to look into it, I have watched them devolve to drooling infants before my eyes, with shaky laughter, shrieks of denial, etc. The implications of not only the findings of those microscopes, but of the completely different paradigm of biology that it points to, terrifies such “scientists.”

    That situation is just one of many that I am aware of. The way that the transmutational effects of Brown’s Gas are completely missing from the Wikipedia entry:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxyhydrogen

    is another typical instance of the censorship that exists, even in the so-called hard sciences, even though the Brown’s Gas transmutational experiment has been conducted at least a hundred times. I talk some about it in my second interview with Scott:

    http://www.spectrumradionetwork.com/...inventors.html

    and write about it here:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#yull

    Brown’s Gas is just one of several ways to neutralize radioactive material:

    http://pacenet.homestead.com/Transmutation.html

    As you can read in Michrowski’s report above, U.S. Congressman Berkeley Bedell and New York State Assemblyman Dan Haley goaded the DOE into at least witnessing the transmutation experiment with Brown’s Gas. In another account that I read long ago, the DOE personnel, with Geiger Counters in hand, not only tried to hide as the experiment was performed, but their first act upon leaving the facility was contacting the authorities, telling them that “dangerous experiments” were taking place at Yull’s facility, and that Los Angeles County had better shut down Brown, and quickly. Their attempt to shut down Brown did not work, and the DOE personnel eventually produced a report on the experiment that they witnessed. Even though the before and after radiation counts were indisputable, the DOE “scientists” produced a report that explained away the findings with highly curious and untested logic. The real scientists working with Brown tested all the reasons for the DOE personnel to dismiss the findings that their Geiger Counters told them, and found that none of them were valid. Haley then went public with the findings:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#haley

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NWtX7IZYjM&amp

    To this day, the Brown’s Gas transmutation experiments are treated by the scientific establishment as if they never happened. The Brown’s Gas transmutation effects are in the same class of reactions as Cold Fusion, which has also been reproduced many times:

    http://www.infinite-energy.com/resou...eyexpdata.html

    Even more strangely, Dennis’s heat pump defied none of the “laws of physics,” and is still the best heating system that has ever been on the world market:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#new

    But you will never see it admitted by Mr. Skeptic and his friends in the scientific establishment, courts and media.

    Whether Dennis’s idea of marrying heat engines to his heat pump’s panels to produce FE is valid is an open question to me, and people like Mallove left the door open to its potential:

    http://www.infinite-energy.com/resources/faq.html#Q34

    In summary, the giants of physics were mystics, and they knew that “science” had nothing to say about consciousness and other dimensions, but even in areas of “hard science,” with indisputable data on Low Energy Nuclear Reactions and optical microscopes with “impossible” resolutions, establishment science spends a great deal of effort acting as if that data does not exist. The same mentality denied that the Wright brothers were flying through the air, for five years after they first did so:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#wright

    As Brian O said, the collective denial of the scientific establishment is greater today than it was in the Wright brothers’ era.

    And all of that leaves aside what the high level players are very well aware of, as far as what the real state of science is in the Above Top Secret world:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

    People like Brian O know very well about that Above Top Secret technology (which I discussed about twenty minutes into this clip : http://www.spectrumradionetwork.com/...inventors.html ) that the scientific establishment’s scientists either deny exist (irrationally dismissing it as a “conspiracy theory”) or will not talk about, for “national security” reasons. Today’s physics texts are cave drawings, when compared to the principles that all that “Above Top Secret” technology works under.

    I wrote an essay on the layman’s quandary, where sorting out the bogus from the genuine is a daunting task for the layman:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/orthodox.htm

    Most of what hails from the fringes is not valid, but that does not mean that it all is, and that is part of the problem. People constantly approach me with fringe claims, asking me to look into them. Very little of that stuff, even if valid, really has much impact on the big picture of the human trajectory. Energy always has been and always will be the big one, with pretty much everything else down the scale of importance, so I am doing my best to keep my eye on the ball, and my upcoming essay is intended to help educate laymen on the energy issue, so more of us can keep our eye on the ball.

    We will see how it goes.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi Ernie:

    Good to hear from you. Yes, we may be Sumari, or former Atlanteans, or former Lemurians (or all of the above and more ), and if enough of us come together, then maybe we can do something worthwhile. Today, I was just reading something on Blue Rays:

    http://spiritlibrary.com/shekina-ros...m-the-blue-ray

    and a lot of it rang true for me. I don’t know what to make of it all. I have been told by a source that I respect that I am from the “gardener” soul group that helped design Earth School, and as I write this, I realize that I mentioned my gardening desires just yesterday in this forum. Cue up some more Twilight Zone music. In the same channeling session, I was told that I was retiring from active duty, letting the new generation take over. Well, that was more than twenty years ago, so I guess that I am not quite retired yet.

    May your days become a little less hectic,

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    Hi:

    I was asked a question this morning about the Rife scope and how to find out more, and the respondent half-apologized for asking the question, because it was not related to the FE conundrum. I let the querent know that it is related to the FE conundrum.

    This gives is a good overview of the technical aspects of Rife's scopes, and keep going to the next pages.

    http://www.xenophilia.com/zb0012.htm

    As does this:

    http://www.hbci.com/~wenonah/history/rife.htm

    And Bearden went pretty technical on it.

    http://www.cheniere.org/techpapers/rifemicroscope.htm

    I was introduced to alternative medicine before I was introduced to alternative energy:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#lessons

    and right after I got clobbered by the energy racket, I went straight to a company that got clobbered by the medical racket:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#experience

    The Rife microscope is an example of how rock solid data and the related technology is banished, along with the paradigm-shattering findings that come from them. The energy and medical rackets operate similarly, and one of the key principles is that the “white science” behind both are like cave drawings compared to what is really known, but the truth would destroy the rackets. The mind-boggling part of both rackets is not the evil-minded people that run them, but how the herd of “scientists” quickly falls in line. The Rockefellers are key players in the early days of both rackets, surprise, surprise.

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#rockefeller

    Unlike the Rife scope, which was largely wiped out, Naessens’s somatoscope is still going strong. If you study not only the active ignoring of the data, but the endless inquisitorial behavior, with trolls running places like Wikipedia on the subjects, it can be a very educational process.

    You can see how the troll that camped on my primary thread at ATS:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/critics.htm#troll2

    also dominated the conversation at the FE suppression talk page on Wikipedia. I am about half convinced that the guy was working with Mr. Skeptic, because Mr. Skeptic always crashed whatever forum I joined, and anybody who featured my work would soon get a visit from him as he spewed his disinformation. At ATS, he never showed up, but when an ATS member invited me into another forum while I was in ATS, Mr. Skeptic quickly showed up in that forum (that was the New Agey one that wiped my forum out, and I was banned from ATS around the same time – which is partly why I am so grateful to Bill for keeping the trolls and assailants at bay). So, either he saw the trolls chewing on me at ATS and did not feel like he had to get involved, or they were somehow allied. I do not like thinking that “conspiratorially,” but too many “coincidences” get my radar up.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi:

    I am going to do my best to adhere to my "silent during the week," or at least "silent during the day," vow, but early this morning I received a query on the dark pathers and how they operate, and perhaps how they might act in a forum like this.

    The good news is that with how Bill has gone about mounting this forum, the Internet trolls will find it more challenging than usual to perform their standard mischief. Because this is only "talk," the dark pathers are less interested in disrupting these kinds of activities. They are more interested in inflicting their deeds on those who "do," especially in the FE game. However, what I saw on my journey may be instructive regarding how this forum operates and those who want to ruin it, and, believe me, many interests would like to. Internet censorship and related activities are rearing their head. People like me may not have avenues to reach the public like this for very long, although I hope that the light will prevail on this issue.

    On my site, I give four examples of encounters that we had with dark pathers, or people who acted just like them.

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#darkness

    They always came off like Boy Scouts in their initial approaches, and their act worked on enough people for long enough for them to work their dark magic. With the BPA hit man, Dennis strongly suspected who he was immediately, but allowed him to come in. I never heard that Dennis regretted that decision, but that man's actions led to somebody's death, and that event radicalized Dennis in his pursuit of alternative energy.

    The next two examples were Mr. Texas and Mr. Deputy, and it sure looked like they played an inside-outside job on our Ventura operation to take it down (a similar game was played in Seattle).

    Mr. Skeptic's activities are not as evil as what those other people did, but he is definitely playing the dark path game, and perhaps consciously. The dark path is not always consciously chosen, at least in the beginning. But eventually, the nature of the game becomes evident to those who play it, and they have to kill off their conscience to "progress" very far along that path.

    The problem with dark pathers is that their act can be a good one, at least for a while. But they all eventually take their masks off, and they often do it in a way where they know that you know their game, but they also know that their game still works on the others, and that you can't do much about it. People may have to experience it to understand. For instance, the naïveté of Mr. Skeptic's pals in the FE movement (yes, he is a part of it, believe it or not) has been very painful to witness. I have tried to warn people off of him, to no avail. They think that they can "handle" him, and so on. When Mr. Texas made his move in Ventura, many people around me were completely sucked in by his act, even though it was blatantly obvious to me and I tried warning people, and they scoffed at me. They later got the dagger in their backs from Mr. Texas.

    Anyway, in this forum, since it is only talk, the efforts of trolls to disrupt it will probably be limited, but you never know. If this forum succeeds in raising awareness, it will be targeted. In forums like ATS, the trolls can come in with both guns blazing, like that ATS troll did who camped on my thread:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/critics.htm#troll2

    but in a place like Avalon, they will have to do their best to look like sheep at first, not wolves, and some may bide their time until they see their opportunity to do the most damage. Their actions can be pretty blatant, or they may play Pied Piper and seek to lead as many people astray as possible. In the FE game, anybody who advocates coercion of anybody is going to be the weak link, due to their Young Warrior delusions, or they will be provocateurs. Only in Hollywood do the "good guys" defeat the "bad guys" in battle. As far as the seeking the light is concerned, in "battle," everybody is a loser. It may help Young Warriors wake up to the futility of violence, and everybody involved has a lesson to learn from the process, but it sure is useless for manifesting something that could look a lot like heaven on Earth. The means become the ends. I learned the truth of that one many times over the years.

    That is enough for now.

    Best,

    Wade
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    I hope that others can do their own visioning, improve on what I see is possible, and can help raise humanity's collective awareness and spirit to where we may have a chance of leaping the octave into real, true abundance.

    Hi Wade, I'm disappointed in myself for being late to this party, but better late than never. It seems we have the best of both worlds going on, you're happy to be here, and we're happy you're here. I'm only on page 11 so far, but your statement above seems to me to be where you like to come home to roost in how you see the change will occur. To my crude understanding of quantum physics you're saying not mind over matter, but mind equals matter. The 100th monkey thing so to speak?


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    Ah, my flagging self-discipline!

    Anybody joining the party these days is definitely coming early, Fred, so do not worry about being late.

    This conundrum is the most intricate one that I know of, and consciousness is key. I write about heart-centered sentience plenty. It has to be both heart and head, but the heart has to lead. If you are not familiar with this chart, it would be helpful, if only to become familiar with my frame of reference.

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#chart

    I am doing another interview with Brian today, and Brian talked in our previous interview about how people can align themselves with the abundance concept in spirit, but vanishingly few have a practical orientation. There are deep spiritual and "practical" components of the conundrum, and they are related. However, I am trying to amass some Level 12s, not Level 19s. A few Level 19s walk the planet today, but for the rest of us, Level 12 is the next step, and it is practical. I know that FE technology exists, but "merely" getting to Level 12 is like walking the razor's edge, and that really has nothing to do with mystical ability, but just keeping one's mind on the high road while listening to one's heart.

    For the very few who get past Level 5, they almost always end up stuck in Levels 6 to 11. No lone inventor is going to save the day, especially those who chase after patents and money. Those avenues are closed off in today's world. If enough people could become Level 12s, then the inventor approach has some potential, but only if the inventor gives it to a worthy group. I have yet to meet that inventor or that worthy group. My efforts can be seen as trying to help develop that worthy group, but we are a long, long way away from forming that group. Others have tried forming that group, but they never survived for long as they went haring off in all directions like chasing money, chasing after the government, playing Young Warrior, and so on.

    On one hand, becoming a Level 12 may seem simple, but a Level 12 seems to have to give up all the scarcity-based ideologies that they have been fed to begin to see the light, and very few people have been able to let go of the isms:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

    The journey to becoming a Level 12 is anything but easy. I have only encountered a handful in my lifetime. One of the many traps is thinking that chasing after money and the powerful, etc., is Level 12 behavior, when it really is not.

    There are not any easy answers to this conundrum. Love can do it, but that is humanity's scarcest commodity:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

    Not many people want to admit that, and that denial is also part of the conundrum.

    Best,

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    Oh yes, 11 pages is already plenty to be familiar with your charts Wade, most useful. Strangely, I had already discovered and accepted the ZPF possibilities shortly befoe the day came when most of my other cherished isms were ripped out of my fragile eggshell mind. The irate warrior path that directly ensued did not last long for two reasons that occured to me pretty much simultaneously:

    1) My life, my marriage, and my sanity were being destroyed.

    2) It hit me like a brick between the eyes that the answer to the world of fear and oppression revealed to me was to build a new world based on love and compassion, not trials and mass executions.

    That changed everything.


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