WADE FRAZIER : A Healed Planet

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Scott:

Yes, Jeane and I had an interview with Brian on David Gibbons's show. Good to see Jeane on your show. That looks like Hutchinson in that Shoulders video (John posted it). Jeane and John both live in BC, and I am pretty sure that John is in Jeane's books, but I cannot recall off the top of my head. John is definitely in Brian's books, and Brian has talked publicly about the military harassment that Hutchinson has received. Jeane is a lot closer to that stuff than I am.

I did a little reading on Shoulders. He has the pedigree. I see that he calls the ZPF Potentum. I am not sure if that is on Jeane's list of the thirty names that she has collected.

When I read about a California-based inventor, trying to take the patent route, it sure brings back many memories, few of them pleasant. He is from the same generation as Mr. Mentor.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse

This article:

http://www.infinite-energy.com/iemag...eclusters.html

is typical of not only the perils of the standard inventor/capitalist approach, but it really is amazing to me that articles like that are written that do not even mention that Godzilla might exist. Many inventors have tapped the ZPF, but they and their gizmos are taken out of circulation immediately. When I see articles like that, which mention the standard problems of FE inventors playing the capitalist game, but fail to even acknowledge organized suppression, I really wonder about them. That kind of naïveté is truly dangerous, IMO. Not only is Godzilla not mentioned, or even the standard capitalistic tactics of wiping out the competition (all capitalists hate competing, and strive for monopolistic situations), but the "black science" behind the good stuff:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

is totally off the table, as if the inventors and tinkerers are really discovering things that the Big Boys did not know long ago. It is difficult for me to read such articles. That that article was in Infinite Energy magazine is another frustration for me. Back in late 2003, Brian O introduced me to Mallove because I wanted to know more about the "environmental energy" angle to FE that he wrote about, which is exactly what we were pursuing when they lowered the boom on us.

http://www.pureenergysystems.com/obi...Message040513/

When I briefly interacted with Mallove,

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#mallove

he had a hard time coming to grips with the billion dollar bribe that Dennis was offered:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#offer

because he had not heard of one that large before. An inventor with a gizmo is laughably easy to take out, if he ever gets to the point where Godzilla needs to roll out of bed. The gulf between a working FE prototype and putting it on the market is at least $100 million. Dennis was putting disruptive energy technology on the market, in a way that nobody has done before or since:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#radar

That it was not FE is not very relevant to the situation, except to realize that if it was FE, Godzilla would have showed up in Seattle, but the Seattle snuff job was enacted by the local energy interests, and Godzilla may not have been involved there, except peripherally. He showed up later.

The threat that Dennis represented was not because he had some FE gizmo, but that he was capable of bringing disruptive technologies to market in a big way. That was his unique threat, and his persistence in rebuilding time after time after he got wiped out. To ignore the competition-strangling nature of capitalism, and also failing to even acknowledge the Godzilla aspect of disruptive energy technologies, is standard. Perhaps the author of that article thought if he even acknowledged that Godzilla existed, he would be lumped in with the "conspiracy theorists." Maybe he dismissed organized suppression as a conspiracy theory himself, operating from the structuralist perspective:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#conspiracism

If authors like that truly do not believe in Godzilla, preferring to imagine him as a myth born of fevered minds, or they think that they will not get an audience if they even acknowledge the organized suppression, whatever the case may be, they are not dealing with the truth and reality, either through ignorance or catering to ideological teddy bears.

FYI, it looks like Mallove's murder may soon be solved, but I will never completely believe the verdict, even if they all confess (the tenants that Mallove evicted may have done it, and why they were not the prime suspects from the beginning must be an interesting tale). There was too much strange stuff happening when Mallove was murdered for me to totally buy the retail crime explanation. Maybe it really was some angry tenants who killed him, egged on by who knows what subtle means. I really do not like thinking too conspiratorially about such things, but a certain amount of paranoia comes with the territory.

I have had way too many experiences that have demonstrated very clearly to me that something is orchestrating my journey, and I had to eventually turn my back on it to the degree I was able. I could only stand so many larger-than-life events, especially of the Indiana Jones kind. Just this past weekend, I had another, relatively innocuous instance where somebody that I was talking about walked right into my field of vision, a hundred miles from both of our homes. I am not sure that anything happens by "coincidence."

In the end, that article is another aspect of the conundrum.

Best,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Ernie:

Great post. Yes, the trajectory of scientific and technological advances can seem to adhere to the "punctualism" of evolutionary theory. I have seen scientists invoke fractals and chaos theory to say that maybe FE breaking through the stranglehold is just around the corner. Again, I will take The Muppet Movie ending to the FE quest any day:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pvAK...eature=related

It may turn out that way, and if it does, I only pray that it is in my lifetime. That "explosive upheaval in consciousness" that Roads's mentor mentioned may well be right around the corner:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

I would say that in significant ways, we are in the upheaval today, but there is certainly a lot more coming.

Yes, we can take our power back, and it must be done gently. The Big Boys cannot be defeated in battle by any Earthly power, and not through the courts, either, at least not in the USA. Been there, done that, I am sorry to say. Our attorney, who gave the IRS a black eye in the USA's Supreme Court:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/links.htm#bigtime

got the surprise of his career when he saw the forces aligned against Dennis:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#supreme

He almost got disbarred. I was just reading something this morning on how Canada's legal system is not as corrupt as the USA's:

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2011/...-law-suit.html

When you begin playing the FE game in the USA, the law literally means nothing. They can make it up as they go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI39R...eature=related

Thanks for that information on Gurdjieff's strategy. Yes, the right-brain/left-brain aspects are related, as are those lower/higher functions. Those aha moments can come, for sure. In the FE conundrum, I have noticed that anybody who got very far along the path of being productive, it was their heart, not their head, that got them there. As even somebody like Chomsky says, that ruling classes use induced fear to manage the population. These "war on terror" days are a standard case of that strategy. Keeping people in fear keeps them operating at those low levels, continually concerned with their survival, thinking at the reptilian-brain level. I believe that you are describing another way to slice the FE Onion. There are other valid ways of looking at it, for sure. Whole-brain thinking is another way to state the mentality that is needed to see past the scarcity-based ideologies that we have been conditioned with.

Yes, there is always hope, especially with Kermit still out there.

Best,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

(post revised to reflect later post, with the original link removed)

I am working on revised this section of my lessons learned essay for my interview this weekend.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#advanced

That table idea was a planned centerpiece of my upcoming essay (and there will be plenty of graphics), and revising that section of that essay inspired me to create a little preview.

That section and table is in its embryonic state, and will develop a great deal by this weekend, when I publish that revised part of my site. That page will only exist for a few days, until I get the revised essay done this weekend, and then it will be part of that essay. I just wanted to give you a preview of where I am going in my energy essay. That, and this part of my upcoming essay section:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#revolutions

will give you a broad overview of that essay that I am working on. The devil is in the details, however. I can see that essay easily being fifty pages, and maybe double that or more. It is intended to help educate the non-scientist on the energy issue and how deeply embedded it is in all facets of our societies and always has been, and what the potential of FE can be. It will be chocked full of information and ideas, many of them quite radical in today’s world.

I gotta go to work now. I just finished a fairly slow month at my day job, and I was partly recovering from the grind of the previous several months. My hurricane is starting up again, and I will likely be very busy for the rest of the year. When I update that section of that essay this weekend, those two sections of my site will give the clearest preview of that essay that I am working on. I will still do interviews, because they do not take much time. I used to mentally prepare for them for a month before I did them, but now they are pretty easy to do.

But I will likely not do much in the way of revising my site until I get that essay written, and I plan to become quieter in this forum while I am working on it. Only so many hours in a day, and I have to get my mojo back at my day job. It is getting harder to recover from the crunch times than it used to be. I will be eligible for senior citizen’s discounts in a couple of years, but want to get that big essay done before I join the ranks of the elderly.

We will see how it goes.

Best,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

I became particularly inspired this morning to get that preparatory work done for my interview this weekend. I have some very busy days ahead of me. I just put up the version that will be close to my final version for now, and will be part of what this weekend’s interview will discuss. That table in my previous post is now removed, but it lives as a permanent part of my site, here:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#advanced

That section, along with this one:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#revolutions

will comprise the best preview of the subject matter that my energy essay will tackle.

Obviously, it covers vast territory. My desire is that the conversation on this thread begins to focus on that subject matter, instead of the “scale the ramparts” theme that has largely predominated, such as which inventor has the goods and a prayer of bringing it to the world. While my days playing Indiana Jones’s sidekick is what gave me the “credentials” to talk with a little authority on the FE milieu, my interest for the past twenty years has been far more focused on the subject matter that those two links above deal with.

What was always missing from all FE efforts that I have seen was not money or technology, so much, but an aware and engaged public; that is why the FE heroes are so vulnerable to Godzilla’s tactics. They need a lot more help than they have received so far. The more people who can keep that above-linked subject matter uppermost in their minds (and maybe we can form a choir one day, when enough of us know the tune), the better chance that a Dennis, Greer, or Brian O has of scaling the ramparts, although I truly wish for an end to the heroic era of FE pursuit, with a killing field littered with martyrs and the other contenders wearing golden handcuffs.

Best,

Wade

[ulli]

Posted by Wade Frazier (here)
Hi:

I became particularly inspired this morning to get that preparatory work done for my interview this weekend. I have some very busy days ahead of me. I just put up the version that will be close to my final version for now, and will be part of what this weekend’s interview will discuss. That table in my previous post is now removed, but it lives as a permanent part of my site, here:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#advanced

That section, along with this one:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#revolutions

will comprise the best preview of the subject matter that my energy essay will tackle.

Obviously, it covers vast territory. My desire is that the conversation on this thread begins to focus on that subject matter, instead of the “scale the ramparts” theme that has largely predominated, such as which inventor has the goods and a prayer of bringing it to the world. While my days playing Indiana Jones’s sidekick is what gave me the “credentials” to talk with a little authority on the FE milieu, my interest for the past twenty years has been far more focused on the subject matter that those two links above deal with.

What was always missing from all FE efforts that I have seen was not money or technology, so much, but an aware and engaged public; that is why the FE heroes are so vulnerable to Godzilla’s tactics. They need a lot more help than they have received so far. The more people who can keep that above-linked subject matter uppermost in their minds (and maybe we can form a choir one day, when enough of us know the tune), the better chance that a Dennis, Greer, or Brian O has of scaling the ramparts, although I truly wish for an end to the heroic era of FE pursuit, with a killing field littered with martyrs and the other aspirants wearing golden handcuffs.

Best,

Wade

Hi Wade
I followed the first link and came across this...are you sure you didn't mean to say desalinated?

Ocean water can easily be salinated with FE and not only all people on Earth could quickly have access to free and pure water, but all the over-pumped water tables could be easily refilled. Polluted air and water are the biggest killers of children today

[Wade Frazier]

Thanks Ulli!

Fixed.

I saw that one yesterday, but missed it in the editing. You get a gold star!

Best,

Wade

[ulli]

Synchronicity I thought, as my posts this morning mentioned polluted air and waters.

Also, more specifically, the word "salinating" (more salt) as opposed to "desalinating" (less salt)
gave me the hint to drop my salty input on the Atticus thread.
That soup is cooked, for now.

[Scott]

Hey Wade

Ok, finally managed to get the show with your fellow free energy researcher Jeane Manning uploaded, you are mentioned in the interview
Interview Link: http://www.spectrumradionetwork.com/...ugh-power.html

Looks like we have a few more contacts now in the free energy field so expect more shows in the future on the topic.

Scott

[Ilie Pandia]

What an oasis this thread is... thank you Wade!

I was thinking at the days of FE. You said that we could use the outer space for food farming (among other things). While I can easily imagine that another thought has come to mind.

Most likely the FE will bring about a big leap in awareness (or is it the other way around ). This means that we humans will live in harmony with nature and not at the expense of nature. Why go to outer space when you can have a fresh apple from "your" apple tree. (Note: "your" as in close to where you are, not owning that tree). I believe that the apple tree will be quite happy if we enjoy its fruit.

Same goes for all the other plants! (I think I've read on your site that there is a symbiotic relationship between humans and plant life). Se we can still eat fruit without abusing nature.

I imagine that with better organization of space, with restoring natural environment and with dropping the idea of ownership it's quite possible to live of the land. The movie I have in my head is me walking in what appears to be a beautiful garden with no end.

I think that the idea of mass food production in one specialized spot is not really necessary in FE days. Is this something you can write about? A big garden on the planet (with lots of edible plants everywhere) versus big centralized farming locations?

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Scott:

I listened to the show. Oh boy, that would be a long talk, to respond. Thanks for having Jeane on your show. I have one clarification about what I said about the patent process.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI39R...eature=related

When they see an inventor apply for a patent, I did not mean that he was done because he is now on their radar, although I am sure that plenty got on the radar that way. What I meant was that when somebody applies for a patent, they have announced that they are planning to play the capitalist game. Anybody playing the capitalist game is incredibly easy to derail. That $100 billion in quiet money took out the people who were largely doing it for the money.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#payoff

and as I said in my interview, most who took the money probably had no idea of what was really happening. They did it for the money anyway, and were happy to count their haul and "retire" with their golden handcuffs.

What I meant by the "you are done" if you go the patent route is that anybody who is doing it for self-serving motives, and I include that inventor's investors (usually his friends and family) in that group, is almost effortlessly taken out. I would say that 99.9% of the contenders with the goods tried to go the capitalist route, and the Big Boys have that avenue so closed off that it is pretty ridiculous to even try it. As thousands of inventors have discovered, if you do get a patent, the military can classify it, or they can just deny your patent because of the good ol' "laws of physics" objection. Then, if you really have the goods and make it past those two gauntlets, then you may get the friendly buyout offer, which is good for your wallet, but you will have been removed from the FE game. And all that is before they even dream of playing rough. Dennis was always prosecuted under "consumer protection" laws, even though no consumers ever complained. The legal tricks up their sleeve are pretty impressive. As I said, they can pretty much make it up as they go. When that kind of pressure begins to be applied, the movements will often collapse in a self-inflicted bloodbath. I have lived through a few of those.

I guess my bottom line is that to even begin the FE journey, you have to have saintly motivation to get anywhere, and anybody applying for patents does not have saintly motivation (or the people who support him do not), and they are defeated before they even start, and getting a patent is almost at the beginning of the process, not the end.

We will talk soon,

Best,

Wade

Hi Ilie:

It looks like you are giving me homework.

That is a beautiful vision that you presented. Yes, we can cooperate with nature, and I have imagined something that looks a lot like heaven on Earth, but I will never be able to write a better account than what Michael Roads did:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

That vision that he had is one of the stars that I steer by. I met Roads long ago, and I do not consider his account some kind of work of fantasy. I know other people who have visited places like that, people who then return with insights that lead to Earth-shaking inventions (that were suppressed, of course).

In that future Earth that Roads visited, they partnered with nature in ways that can be hard to believe. Yes Ilie, if I ever get to live in a reality like that on the physical plane, my apple tree will be a short, grassy, barefoot walk from my bed. In a few weeks, the cherry trees in my back yard will be ripe, as will the blueberry bushes. That is as good as my life gets. So, yes, I can totally relate to what you are visioning, and I'll put that on my list of Ilie-related tasks.

The only reason for putting farms in space, floating on the ocean or in the air is to reduce humanity's load on Earth's ecosystems, which can't be in space.

Yes, you read it on my site that fruit is the ultimate symbiosis between plants and animals, and all the great apes are designed to ideally digest fruit (it comprises about 65% of the great ape diet).

Not sure if you read it, but the evidence is pretty strong that the Amazon rainforest is the world's largest garden.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#amazon

Keep up with that visioning, young man.

Best,

Wade

[eaglespirit]

Posted by Wade Frazier (here)

I guess my bottom line is that to even begin the FE journey, you have to have saintly motivation to get anywhere...

Wade

Hi Wade...as to my strong premonition I shared with You in the recent past....that IS exactly what is going to be the cause of the exponential eruption for the good, imho, soon!

Kudos to all of Your diligent work!

[Wade Frazier]

Hi eaglespirit:

If we have an outbreak of saintly motivation, then yes, the Heaven-on-Earth program will be a downhill roller. I hope that your vision is prescient.

Best,

Wade

[aranuk]

Hi Wade, thank you for speaking to us here! There is another thread here about Mehran Keshe and I was very pleased to hear what he has been doing for 30 odd years researching and developing a Plasma Reactor Technology. He is being interviewed on red Ice Radio yesterday I think. here is the link http://www.redicecreations.com/radio...RIR-110609.php

I wonder if you know about all this anyway and could you care to give us a brief comment please?


Stan

[Wade Frazier]

Hi aranuk:

Lots of inventors out there, trying to go develop stuff, with theories that challenge conventional physics. If they do not play the ZPE game (which Keshe does not appear to be trying to do), they can make some headway. China built a city for Yull Brown:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#yull

I talk about it some in the first twenty minutes of this interview:

http://www.spectrumradionetwork.com/...inventors.html

So, the Irans and Chinas can be a home for some of those guys. I highly doubt that TPTB will allow commercial trips to the moon in flying saucers, but we will see. I do not really keep up on inventors anymore. Brian O, Bearden, Jeane Manning and company do, but my interest has taken a different direction.

Best,

Wade

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

I do not usually do this sort of thing, but Gary has been a long-time observer of the scene:


http://signon.org/sign/end-suppressi...in&r_by=263131

I signed it, as did Jeane.

Best,

Wade

[Ernie Nemeth]

I would have signed but it is only for Americans.

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Ernie:

Thanks for trying, but it looks like Canadians are fine. Jeane and John Hutchinson are Canadians, and they signed the petition, as have other Canadians.

Best,

Wade

[Tigressa]

Hi Ernie, it has a drop down menu, you just search for your country there. I have signed Wade - thank you. I look forward to reading your story in more depth as I go. Best wishes!

[Ernie Nemeth]

I'm listening to the Jeane Manning interview right now. Very interesting.

I remember a scientist in the States who is almost never mentioned these days. Everyone was talking about cold-fusion in the eighties and after the Ponds experiment was debunked only this guy's, Neuman, I think, could not be explained. The news was full of this scientist's experiment and its apparent over-parity energy production (it wasn't very high - like 10-12%). Scientific American ran multiple articles on him.

Then, suddenly, no more news and never again a mention of this scientist. I have kept an eye out for any other work by this guy but he has just disappeared. I seem to recall there may have been some legal rangling he was involved in related to his experiments or something before he vanished.

Anyone know this scientist?

[Ernie Nemeth]

Thnx Tigressa, duh!

Signed.