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    Thanks Tigressa.

    After Pons and Fleishman got waylaid by MIT, and their research was driven from the USA, I have not kept up on the cold fusion front. You do not mean Joe Newman, do you?

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    That might be his name, I cannot remember. I only recall his involvement in cold fusion, his disappearance from the public eye and my mental note to keep an ear out for last name "Neuman" or "Newman". I wish I could find the Scientific American article. But He was interviewed by many newspapers and magazines. I believe even one of the network news agencies ran a bio on him and his work.

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    More is coming back. His theories to explain the above-parity results of his experiments involved the harnessing of the angular momentum of atomic spin. He achieved this, he claimed, by understanding the proper correlation between magnetic and electric fields or some such.

    I believe he used a type of pulsed current technology of high potential voltage in a unique way between two very closely spaced but separate plates of conductive material. In many ways it reminded me of Tesla's work and more recently the work done by Hutchinson in Canada.

    Thats all I can remember.

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    Hi:

    I do not usually do this sort of thing, but Gary has been a long-time observer of the scene:


    http://signon.org/sign/end-suppressi...in&r_by=263131

    I signed it, as did Jeane.

    Best,

    Wade
    Hi Wade,

    Just a quick response before I leave to take my brother back to Edmonton and have a bit of a holiday while catching up with old friends. DONE DEAL!!! Regarding the above petition
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    Hi Ernie:

    I am going to guess and say it was Joe Newman, and see if it is what you recall. Joe is from Mississippi, and he has a magnetic motor. To his credit, it was the first time that I ever heard of FE, back in 1986. When Dennis was trying to keep the Seattle company alive, he heard of Joe, visited his operation and tried to get involved, but Joe had quite an entourage back then and Dennis did not gain any traction. When Dennis got his FE idea in Boston,

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#chasing

    knowing about Joe may have helped Dennis think in the FE direction.
    Here is Joe’s site:

    http://josephnewman.com/

    Like Dennis, his message is overtly Christian, and it can be difficult to see past all the religious stuff. Does Joe have something? Probably. Of course, places like Wikipedia will not give it a fair hearing:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Newman_(inventor)

    One of the debunkers on that page is one of Mr. Skeptic’s good buddies, and so on. I consider Joe to be an FE casualty. Joe became mentally unbalanced along the way and eventually attacked Dennis. Dennis considers Joe to be mentally ill and harmless, but Joe’s antics are part of the FE circus.

    Maybe it was somebody else you are thinking of, but he was real famous back in the 1980s and 1990s. That religious stuff is understandable, because the implications of FE are so overwhelming, but I would say that Joe’s story is a cautionary tale of letting FE go to your head.

    Best,

    Wade

    Thanks Sandy!

    Wade
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    Hi:

    Tonight, I am doing another interview with Scott. I will let the forum know when it is published, although Scott will likely beat me to it.

    This time, the subject matter will be on my lessons learned essay:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm

    and will focus on how to mount an FE effort without risking lives:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#pursuing

    That is the real fruit of my journey. As I have stated, I recently updated this section:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#advanced

    as homework for my interview. That section and this one:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#revolutions

    comprise the best preview of the energy essay that I am working on.

    In the past, I have been the warm-up act for Adam Trombly:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radio.htm

    and it looks like I may be doing it again. That is a great honor. I have not thought much about Adam’s story for years, and in my interviews with Scott and Tom:

    http://www.youtube.com/user/Spectrum...CC03E294B890CD

    http://www.spectrumradionetwork.com/...inventors.html

    I talked about Adam’s journey at some length. I like to be precise if I can, but I was not totally prepared to talk about Adam, and was speaking from memories of several years earlier. I think I got most of the facts about Adam’s journey accurately, but I got the name wrong about Adam’s dad’s pal who “jumped” out of a window after the CIA gave him LSD. I said it was Frank Snepp, but it was Frank Olson:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Olson

    I said he jumped out of a hospital window, but it was a hotel window. The hospital window “jump” I was thinking of was James Forrestal:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Forrestal

    When people get involved with ETs and FE, they seem to have a high probability of “committing suicide” by jumping. When Brian O’s pal Stefan Marinov “jumped” off the library backwards:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefan_Marinov

    it was another one of those strange “suicides.”

    Best,

    Wade

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    Quote Posted by Wade Frazier (here)
    Hi Ernie:

    I am going to guess and say it was Joe Newman, and see if it is what you recall. Joe is from Mississippi, and he has a magnetic motor. To his credit, it was the first time that I ever heard of FE, back in 1986. When Dennis was trying to keep the Seattle company alive, he heard of Joe, visited his operation and tried to get involved, but Joe had quite an entourage back then and Dennis did not gain any traction. When Dennis got his FE idea in Boston,

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#chasing

    knowing about Joe may have helped Dennis think in the FE direction.
    Here is Joe’s site:

    http://josephnewman.com/

    Like Dennis, his message is overtly Christian, and it can be difficult to see past all the religious stuff. Does Joe have something? Probably. Of course, places like Wikipedia will not give it a fair hearing:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Newman_(inventor)

    One of the debunkers on that page is one of Mr. Skeptic’s good buddies, and so on. I consider Joe to be a FE casualty. Joe became mentally unbalanced along the way and eventually attacked Dennis. Dennis considers Joe to be mentally ill and harmless, but Joe’s antics are part of the FE circus.

    Maybe it was somebody else you are thinking of, but he was real famous back in the 1980s and 1990s. That religious stuff is understandable, because the implications of FE are so overwhelming, but I would say that Joe’s story is a cautionary tale of letting FE go to your head.

    Best,

    Wade

    Thanks Sandy!

    Wade
    Good Morning Wade,
    I had had email contact and phone conversation about 5+ years ago with one of Newman's main associates/helpers...I was following Joe's internet videos, work presentations, and general view talks...I pulled back because of the reasons in Your general overview of the persona of Joe and company. Had been thinking of bringing this out...so glad to read Your take on these matters.
    Thank You to You and the Others in this thread!

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    Hi eaglespirit:

    The FE field is littered with destroyed martyrs, contenders sidelined with the golden handcuffs, people who fell by the wayside because they could not overcome their foibles or those of their allies, and so on. It is extremely perilous terrain to try to navigate. My "walking the razor’s edge" statement is not hyperbole. The FE field only faintly resembles how corporate capitalism works, or how standard activism works (nobody has been offered a billion dollars to call off their protest), or the garage tinkerer world, and so on.

    I have seen way too many newcomers fall into the pitfalls, never to be seen again:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#pitfalls

    The situation of newcomers blithely falling into the pitfalls, and even eagerly diving into them at times, is a key part of the conundrum. The veterans are vulnerable to them, too, and many end up in one of those holes permanently, as they are never able to climb out.

    It took me many years to figure out all the crazy and inexperienced reactions to the idea of FE, and I eventually put them into some kind of logical order:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#chart

    Many are put off by Dennis’s preacher persona and his P.T. Barnum imitation, and I cannot blame them. I eventually realized that those approaches did not attract the kind of people who could really help FE along. Personal integrity is the world’s scarcest commodity, which I learned the hard way:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

    and that is, by far, the biggest single reason why we do not enjoy the benefits of FE today. It is seductive to think that those bad ol’ elites are the cause of our problems, but they are only a symptom. If a tiny fraction of us woke up and put our hearts in charge, we would have had FE long ago. I have written it before; the lamb’s path to FE may be the only one that will work. The Young Warriors are almost effortlessly taken out (and the Big Boys love a good slaughter):

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#warriors

    the mass movement approach always seeks the lowest-common-denominator, and you can’t out-herd the shepherd. Long ago, I remember reading Seth say that groups of people coming together out of shared positive intention, and coming with their individuality intact and their sentience turned up high, is the most formidable force of change on the planet. I read it as a teenager. I did not fully appreciate what he said until many years later. Heart-centered sentience, united around the true root of the human journey on Earth (the energy issue) is not only a “nice” approach to take, it may very well be the only one that will work. Pandering to scarcity-based ideologies:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

    is to appeal to the ego. That will never work, IMO. Trying to sneak past people’s ego mechanisms is not an approach that interests me. Only people with a thirst for the truth and a love of humanity and Mother Earth can progress very far along the FE path. Anything less ends up in the pitfalls. Most newcomers scoff at that notion, and I only hope that once they fall into their first pitfall, if their lives were not wrecked by the experience, that my words might make more sense, and they will climb out and avoid the others and become Level 12s one day:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level12

    This effort must be soul-centric, not ego-centric. That is no mean feat. Having an ego is the price of admission to life on Earth, and I wrestle with mine every day. Again, seeing the divinity in everybody, as we see past their frightened personalities in a world of scarcity, might be the most difficult feat on Earth, but those still active and productive in the FE field overcame their initial disgust with humanity as they began to understand how the land really lied, and saw deeper into the human spirit.

    Again, a hundred heroes who have played close to this level and are still at it:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#howmany

    or a choir of ten thousand singing the abundance song because it is the song that everybody knows by heart and it is their song, not mine, can do the trick, I think.

    We will see how it goes.

    Best,

    Wade
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    The timeline is right, Wade, but the invention and the character reference do not seem to fit. Any religiously fervent believers are a red flag I have learned to look out for long ago. I'll see if I can access more of my memories in the next few days, not that it matters much either way.

    I would like to comment on how I feel when you say to sing the abundance song. First off I want to yell and scream and begin my diatribe about how impossible it is to sing such a song and really mean it. Oh, you can pay it lip service. You can write about fluffy white clouds, blue skies and soft cuddly bunny rabbits but that does not deter the storm or the jackel at your door.

    The next feeling is usually a more calming, counter to the first. This feeling is the satisfaction I feel in my ability to bend reality to my will. I have fashioned a life based on freedom and I have been quite successful in that regard, of course only as measured by my own yardstick.

    Although on my terms I have been successful I would not call my life one of abundance. Yet I can imagine what life would be like if abundance were the paradigm of our society. I have imagined that my whole life, since a very early age. In that world my life, and the life of everyone would have been entirely different. I have always tried to behave in the way such citizens would behave by being helpful, considerate and understanding. Since I know much I have been very helpful even when I had no reward for doing so. I have gone way out of my way for people, friends or family or even strangers. I was going to give some examples but I won't. I have always been able to see my opponent's point-of-view, which makes it hard to "go for the kill (or throat)", if you know what I mean. In my business I charge what a job is worth - not the going rate or what I can get for it.

    The confusion caused by trying to sing the song of abundance is the conflict of living in scarcity. So I await your interview and your essay to see where that might lead me.

    Happy holidays, Sandy.

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    Hi Ernie:

    OK, it may have been somebody else with a similar name. Alfred E. Newman was also pretty famous back then. Maybe it was him.

    As always, your observations are real and welcome. Yes, you can’t fake the abundance song and hum along. They have be your lyrics, not mine. That is part of the conundrum. It is OK to be confused, and yes, imagining abundance while living in a world of scarcity is one of the hardest tricks on Earth. That is perhaps the crux of the conundrum. The Big Boys understand what I am saying about abundance very well, which is why they suppress FE as avidly as they do, why I have Internet stalkers, etc. They know that in a world of abundance, they would no longer be able to call the shots, and calling the shots is what it is all about to them, such are the perils of craving what they think of as power. That craving can never be satisfied, because it is rooted in fear, like greed is.

    I am under no illusions that I am going to find an abundance chorus on a street corner that I somehow missed in my search. Nothing like that choir has ever been amassed before on Earth. This, I know, so this entire quest, burning up the past twenty years of my life on it, after barely surviving my adventures, can be seen as quite quixotic, but I have only "wasted" my life on it so far, and people like me have long-suffering spouses and famlily members, and it is no exception in my case.

    As I have stated before, Joe Average will only begin to glimpse the abundance paradigm when FE has been delivered to his home, as Machiavelli observed:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#machiavelli

    I do not seek Joe Average, but am looking for those needles in haystacks, who are in the general population at a ratio of something like one in a thousand, if that, who are able to lay aside their scarcity-based indoctrination long enough to simply imagine abundance. As I said late in my first interview with Scott:

    http://www.youtube.com/user/Spectrum.../6/dYth4J7YqDo

    the gulf between what an abundance-based world looks like and the daily reality of the vast majority of people is too great for them. It is so far outside of their conception of the possible that it is unimaginable. My target audience is a small and potentially special one: people who can help imagine abundance into being before they have it in their daily reality. They call that being a visionary.

    One of the crazy parts is that I know that the technology exists on the planet today to make that abundance-based reality happen almost overnight. But, all dominant ideologies are opposed to the appearance of abundance, because they are all founded on the root assumption of scarcity:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

    So, I am not asking people to imagine something that is not real, chasing unicorns, etc. Many well-intended people are scientifically illiterate, and that is part of the problem. They look to establishment science for the answers, and on this issue and many others, that may be the last place that people should look to for the answers, and that is part of the conundrum, too.

    This stuff ain’t easy, Ernie. If you are willing to muster the courage to just let all of those seemingly opposed ideas roll around in your head (an abundance-based world, when nothing outside of our doors looks that way), I am here to help you deal with it. If that proves too difficult or seems like I am chasing pink ponies, that is OK, too, but I think that you will find that holding those “crazy” thoughts in your mind is not time wasted.

    Gotta go play in the yard right now.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi Wade

    Good to be here again. We talked earlier on on this thread, a couple of months ago.
    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post106495

    Here is nice story of a French agricultural engineer, Fabrice André, who lives high up in the mountains and owns and runs a refuge in the Alps at 2000 m altitude.
    http://www.refuge7.com/

    The place is off-grid and entirely autonomous in terms of energy. Yet it welcomes tens of thousands of visitors each year. Solar energy (both thermal and photovoltaic), wind, hydroelectric, gas from organic wastes, etc.: All these energy sources are automatically optimized with specially developed electronics and software. Pretty impressive.

    But the man is not only fond of conventional alternative energies. He is also in the field of very alternative energy (i.e. FE, although he more or less cautiously avoids the term) with a device he calls a magnetic degravitation over unity engine (coupling of neodymes magnets packed in mu-metal).

    Quite an open and smart guy, you will see while watching the videos.

    To my mind, not really the “want to become the Bill Gates of free energy” type of guy, quite the contrary.

    No a guy hidden from the public eye or working in the utmost secrecy either.

    Not the man who would have been offered the golden check either; which would perhaps mean, according to your experience on the subject, that he may simply not just be quite on the right track to cause any serious threat to the GC’s.
    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#chart

    Yet, looking at the video, he seems pretty close (although that can certainly be said for many in the FE field).
    Definitely a guy I would try to get in touch in the near future (I am incidentally also an agricultural engineer… and with the “abundance paradigm” in mind ever since 2006 when I first bumped into FE).

    Although in French, I’d encourage you to peep through at least this video:
    http://vimeo.com/12941625 (8 min)

    This next one is probably a little more difficult to understand. It was on national French TV a little more than a year ago (they ran a whole special news coverage of 15 min or so) and it shows the context and the refuge itself.
    http://w41k.info/49836

    One final question: in case he is interested, which pages of your site you would specially recommend sharing with him as a base of open discussion on the subject?

    Thanks !

    Jean-Luc


    PS. Thanks also for the amazing time devoted to answering the previous 35 pages of questions on this forum
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    Hi Jean-Luc:

    I am not that old yet. I remember you and your questions well, and how can I forget a man with Captain Picard’s first name?

    I can’t read or understand French, but it looks like a nice place to live. There are fringe dwellers here and there that may have something, like this Swiss commune:

    http://www.freeenergynews.com/Direct...ha/Thestatica/

    But they no longer demo to the public, and keep it under wraps. If they do something like that, they can be left alone. That that guy avoids saying FE may be due to caution, in several ways (maintaining “credibility,” keeping his skin intact, etc.). Anybody who has something and starts making noise quickly gets pretty high on the radar. They usually are contacted in some way and strongly advised to play coy around FE, if they value their health. Usually, those who get that kind of message will not talk publicly about it, because they do not know who “they” are, where they are from, etc. That kind of strategy makes for reticent inventors, as if they don’t all play the secrecy game enough already. Of course, the vast majority keep their “secret sauce” secret until they start on the patent process, but as I stated earlier, those playing the patent game are defeated before they begin:

    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post240858

    If they want to play the secret sauce game, with “proprietary” stuff, they are also easily defeated. If they open source it (all three of those inventors), then they can begin to become dangerous, but nobody can make a FE device for commercial use in their garages, at least so far, so even open sourcing it does not help as much as you might think it would.

    My introduction to the energy milieu was squeezing more energy out of a gallon of gasoline:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse

    and then super heat pumps:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#new

    before we ever began thinking of FE. Brian O’s initial orientation was the usual suspects of alternative energy.

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#udall

    Most of my fellow travelers did not begin our journeys thinking in FE terms. That guy’s setup, getting more bang for the energy buck, is a typical early orientation. If that guy really has tapped the ZPF and has any idea what he is doing, then he knows that solar, wind, etc., is like a flea on an elephant, as far as its significance compared to FE. So, either he does not have it or is playing a game of one kind or another. It does not have to be a “bad” game, but can be a game of survival. Anybody who taps the ZPF in any significant way will come onto the radar, and they will soon get a “friendly” visit, especially some guy up in the mountains.

    Again, I really do not have much interest in the inventor route to FE. Been there, done that, and realized that it was pretty much a dead end. FE inventors do not have a prayer in today’s environment, if bringing it to the world is their goal. In today’s environment, if anybody gets across that finish line, it will be because he was allowed to (about 11 minutes into this clip):

    http://www.youtube.com/user/Spectrum.../5/1LhLRS_9-Ms

    Inventors are very, very rarely very interested in what I am doing. My published work is a multidisciplinary synthesis of the energy issue and the human journey. I would say that this post:

    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post242420

    presents the most succinct summary of my writings on the FE front for now. My experience with inventors is that they are either in denial or paranoid regarding how the FE milieu really works. They really do not want to hear what I have to say. Normal inventing (as if there is such a thing) does not work in the FE field. The potential and peril is far too high for most mortals to ably deal with. Joe Newman is just one casualty of many. The “savvy” inventors hope for the friendly buyout offer, but that is one hell of a dangerous game to play. If the Big Boys know that that is the inventor’s motivation, they may just make an example of him, to discourage that sort of thing.

    On keeping this thread going, this is why I joined, and some are beginning to understand what I am trying to do here. If I only helped five people begin to get on the wavelength, it would be well worth it, and I think that I have surpassed the goal.

    This stuff is not easy to comprehend. It took me many years to arrive where I am today. Very few people have attained Level 12 and stayed there:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level12

    They almost always need to wander into the other levels and think about them. As long as they are only thinking, they cannot get into too much trouble. To become a Level 12, it probably requires some kind of experience, to show how the land lies. It does not have to be in the FE milieu, and I direct people to where they can get gentler awakenings than playing on the FE battlefield:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#developing

    Easy steps, first.

    Best,

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    Thanks a lot Wade for your quick reply.

    In order to save my eyes (and those of anyone else interested), I've just produced these PDFs from some of the major (?) sections of your (amazing) website.

    Keys to Comprehending Abundance-Based Paradigms (11 pages)
    http://vigli.org/AHEALEDPLANET/Keys_...st_2008_A4.pdf
    http://vigli.org/AHEALEDPLANET/Keys_...st_2008_US.pdf

    The Free Energy Conundrum. Is Humanity Ready for Abundance? (7 pages)
    http://vigli.org/AHEALEDPLANET/The_F...ec_2005_A4.pdf
    http://vigli.org/AHEALEDPLANET/The_F...ec_2005_US.pdf

    Lessons Learned from My Journey (11 pages)
    http://vigli.org/AHEALEDPLANET/Lesso...il_2010_A4.pdf
    http://vigli.org/AHEALEDPLANET/Lesso...il_2010_US.pdf

    Global Racket Risk Analysis and the Threat that Dennis Lee Presented (4 pages)
    http://vigli.org/AHEALEDPLANET/Globa...ly_2010_A4.pdf
    http://vigli.org/AHEALEDPLANET/Globa...ly_2010_US.pdf

    My Upcoming Energy and Humanity Essay and Related Activism (4 pages)
    http://vigli.org/AHEALEDPLANET/My_Up...ct_2010_A4.pdf
    http://vigli.org/AHEALEDPLANET/My_Up...ct_2010_US.pdf

    My Radio Show Appearance with Carol Brouillet (6 pages)
    http://vigli.org/AHEALEDPLANET/My_Ra...ch_2008_A4.pdf
    http://vigli.org/AHEALEDPLANET/My_Ra...ch_2008_US.pdf

    The Medical Racket (83 pages)
    http://vigli.org/AHEALEDPLANET/The_M...ne_2011_A4.pdf
    http://vigli.org/AHEALEDPLANET/The_M...ne_2011_US.pdf

    Fluoridation: A Horror Story (18 pages)
    http://vigli.org/AHEALEDPLANET/Fluor...ne_2011_A4.pdf
    http://vigli.org/AHEALEDPLANET/Fluor...ne_2011_US.pdf

    Medical Dark Ages Quotes (43 pages)
    http://vigli.org//AHEALEDPLANET/Medi...ne_2011_A4.pdf
    http://vigli.org//AHEALEDPLANET/Medi...ne_2011_US.pdf

    My adventures (30 pages)
    http://vigli.org//AHEALEDPLANET/My_A...ne_2008_A4.pdf
    http://vigli.org//AHEALEDPLANET/My_A...ne_2008_US.pdf

    I need some time to get a grasp on all this, but by and large... I am with you and getting a pretty good understanding of your point of view.

    Thanks again. I'll be back
    Best

    Jean-Luc

    PS. http://vigli.org is my website on 911, the place where back in 2008 I published the translation of the http://patriotsquestion911.com website (500 pages of PDF's) based on the work of a group of 30 French speaking volunteers from Belgium, France, Quebec, and Africa. With a couple of activists-realists-truthers we also organized a couple of conferences with Richard Gage (whom I was honored to welcome home for a night), David Griffin and... this coming Wednesday Kevin Barrett.

    By the way, VIGLI means "awake" or "awakening" in... esperanto
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    Hi Jean Luc:

    Well, that is an honor to get some of my site in .pdf. Thanks. People have been suggesting to me for many years to do something like that for my site. Others have translated essays into foreign languages, etc. I have resisted doing much on that front, partly because I am more focused on the content, and the content has a long ways to go. Every essay can be written better. I like my newer essays better than my older essays, in general, but I look forward to when I can take a year and really make the site pretty good, but that may not be for several years yet. That is kind of why I am working on that energy essay. When I wrote the original site, it was before I discovered Bucky Fuller, and my writings are more paradigmatic now. I had the idea of writing a book for many years, but eventually gave it up with the advent of the Internet. Also, my work is heavily interlinked because it is so interdisciplinary, and that cannot be reflected in a book. At this time, I have no plans to make a printed version of my writings. They will only live on the Internet.

    As I have previously stated, my initial orientation to the energy issue was technological:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse

    Then from the business end of it:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#hitting

    I eventually came to realize what dead ends those paths are. In our capitalistic, technologically-oriented world, almost nobody can even imagine a different approach, which is why there are so many questions on this thread about this or that inventor and if he has it or not. What very few have been able to understand yet is that it does not matter whether they have it or not. Lone inventors are dead meat. Inventors almost never support each other:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#alpha

    so each one plays lone wolf and tries to become the alpha inventor and dominate the others if they ever get in the same room. That being the inventor culture, they are effortlessly taken out one at a time, if by some miracle they stumble onto what Sparky discovered:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#sweet

    The entire tinkering inventor path is a dead end for FE, but for anybody who peers into the field, that is almost all they ever hear of, as this inventor or that inventor tries to scale the ramparts. This graph (which you know well):

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#graphic

    shows where tinkering inventors are on the scale of making it happen. The vast majority never even become a nuisance. They either never come up with anything or they defeat themselves, or their allies do, or the lower level predators (local energy interests) eat them. Godzilla rarely needs to get involved. That everybody new to the field focuses on some would-be contender is part of the conundrum, too. It is way past time to look in different directions to solve the riddle. I have found that those who keep advocating the tinkerer path have about zero experience in bringing disruptive technologies to market, especially disruptive energy technologies. Nobody else has ever played at the level that Dennis has:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#run

    and I was a rapt pupil. Dennis still tries variations of that approach, probably because he is not fit for anything else. The Indiana Joneses rely on their bullwhips too much. A few bull-whippers have gotten to the stage where they made enough commotion that they needed some special treatment, but not many.

    I have poked into 9/11 deeply enough to know that we are not being told the whole story, not even remotely, and that that can be a very deep rabbit hole to dive into:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#sept11

    a lot deeper than I have time to fully explore. Even if the inside-job aspect of 9/11 is true, it still is just a symptom of our malaise, not a cause. All of the antics of the global elites are only symptoms, not causes, as hard as that is for conspiracists to accept.

    The tunnel vision of the structuralists:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#conspiracism

    only sees part of the picture, too, and structuralists and conspiracists have their victim-oriented mentality in common. It is time to begin acting like creators, not victims, and take responsibility for this world that we created. When we finally do that, then we can change it, and creators do it with love.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Glad you like the PDFs.
    I've added a couple more of them in the post above.

    Thanks for your interesting insights.

    I've been thinking right from the start or so (2006) that the only way out regarding making FE technology exist in one way or another was to GIVE IT AWAY... (even if it probably is not that simple).
    Just like unconditional love, after all.

    This won't prevent the biggest force on earth (inertia / denial) to delay its blossoming for some time, but it will change our world for ever.
    I remember talking personaly to Henri Deacon / Arthur Neuman in Amsterdam and him saying that, according to him, FE was meant soon or later to blossom like "seeds in the spring" all over the place.

    Scarcity walks hand to hand with fear and egocentrism. One way to combat egocentrism is to just let it go.
    Won't suffice, but it will help considerably.

    Yes, I am a dreamer

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    Hi Jean-Luc:

    Keep dreaming, young man. Imagining the end game is vitally important. Yes, cracking the FE nut will likely shift humanity’s paradigm from one of scarcity to abundance, and nothing remotely that big has ever graced our species before. As you are realizing, the critical part of the conundrum is that it most likely necessitates a new way of being to bring it into reality. That is the crux of that question that I have asked for so many years:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#question

    There are no easy answers, but there really are. Enough heart-centered sentience could easily make FE happen, but achieving that awareness is the hard part, especially in a world of scarcity and fear. As long as we think like victims, we perpetuate the paradigm. I have to be vigilant every day to not fall into the old ways of thinking and being, and some days are better than others, that is for sure. The capitalist/inventor route is a dead end in today’s environment. A hundred heroes could do it, too, but there are not a hundred to find, not this kind:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#howmany

    Almost everybody who brushes up against this issue fails to escape the gravity wells of their favorite brands of scarcity-based ideology:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

    The “walking the razor’s edge” statement that I often make is not hyperbole. I have only encountered, maybe, a handful who have successfully shed their indoctrination enough to bring the abundance-based picture into view, and do it in a way where they can see the futility of the scarcity-based way of approaching the problem.

    Again, there is not a tougher nut to crack on Earth, but it is the worthiest nut to crack that I know of. It is worth at least trying to wrap our minds around it.

    Best,

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    The confusion caused by trying to sing the song of abundance is the conflict of living in scarcity. So I await your interview and your essay to see where that might lead me.

    Happy holidays, Sandy.
    Hi Ernie (Sandy), I agree and my personal experience with that has been to go back one step further. If you can repeat a mantra something like: "I want to get to the point where I can sing the song of abundance and truly believe it." Then periodically test the results. Perhaps this will help.
    Blessed are the cracked, for they are the ones who let in the light!

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    Wow, Jean-Luc, thats a lot of work, nice.

    Ba-ba-ra.
    I understand abundance, I know it can be here tomorrow, and that it could have been here twenty, thirty years ago as well. We could have had abundance without FE, without technology of any kind for that matter. It seems to be a question of how "abundance" is defined. To me, abundance has nothing at all to do with money or possessions. To me abundance has more to do with love, kindness, understanding. To live in a world of abundance means there are copious amounts of positive qualities surrounding me to uplift me and support me on my mission, here on earth. To me abundance means meaningful fulfillment. To me abundance means lots of value.
    From that comes all else. But before that comes, FE and material abundance for all is impossible. FE and material abundance cannot occur in a capitalistic society because the two are diametrically opposed. Capitalism, like all other "isms", presupposes local inequities and inequalities - There is always room to aquire more.
    In a society based on abundance the idea of aquiring more for the sake of having more would not be pertinent.

    I do truly believe in abundance, but I also understand what is at stake and what must change. That is where I am focussed. I started a thread on the requirements of Peace, entitled World Peace. The replies veered off course but my main objective was to expose people to the rudimentary requirements for World Peace. That thread has received over a thousand views and I am happy with that.

    Abundance is an idea, just as scarcity is. It is what those ideas require to manifest that is the root of our discusion here, IMO. We know what creates a scarcity based paradigm because we live in the middle of it - we have manifested scarcity. Scarcity is part of our thinking. The question is, IMO, what does it take to create an abundance paradigm where abundance is part of our thinking. In other words, how can we promote love and fellowship amongst all peoples.

    I hope my style can shake a few people up a bit, that's all.
    We need to be woken up.

    My message is that while we persue these exotic technologies we also begin to look within ourselves and start to balance the world of our hearts with the world of our minds. That is the road to peace and abundance.

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    Hi Ernie:

    In this world, you cannot effectively divorce ideas from material reality, or convincingly put one before the other; they are deeply interconnected and interact. We get to try out our bright ideas in the material world and see how they work. That is the game that we are playing here. Earth is no easy classroom.

    In the USA, every child by age five is taught very clearly how to be peaceful, how to be a good citizen, and so on:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/intro.htm#forgetting

    So, why is my nation Earth’s most violent, inflicting vast genocides onto foreign peoples?

    http://www.countercurrents.org/polya071007.htm

    Economics.

    How could the Western media not laugh when Tony Blair said that oil never crossed his mind when he decided to help his buddy (and former oil executive) George Bush invade Iraq?

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...-in-new-memoir

    Anybody with a clue was not surprised to hear that it was all about oil:

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...q-2269610.html

    http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion...l-2033114.html

    How can the public be so stupid as to buy such transparent lies? The fact is, that stupidity is intentional:

    http://www.counterpunch.org/publius07152003.html

    and people who have not been intentionally stupid have seen through those games for a very long time:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#twain

    Scarcity and abundance are not just ideas, they are economic realities. You once mentioned how a relative from war-torn Europe burst into tears when seeing a supermarket’s shelves groaning with food. That is a dramatic instance of somebody being introduced to what looks like physical abundance (it was not real and universal abundance, but relative abundance).

    Up until the industrial era, the primary preoccupation of all civilizations of all time was getting enough food to eat:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#chart

    As that great generalist Bucky Fuller said, scarcity has been the primary motivation of all soldiers for all time:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#soldier

    Appeal to scarcity-based ideologies like nationalism, and how the “enemy” threatens the “good people,” and you can get any nation to march to war:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#goering

    I come from a family of warriors, where every one of my male ancestors since the early 1900s and their brothers (as well as my brothers) served in America’s imperial military, and I almost did:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#business

    Part of my heritage is what is known as rural poor, or what they call redneck (white trash, hillbillies, etc.) in the USA. Joe Bageant

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Bageant (I just discovered that he died when making the above link, alas. I’ll run out and buy his latest book, now).

    has written very perceptively about that class of people, and why they have been America’s cannon fodder since the very beginning of the European invasion of North America. He was writing about my ancestors, and how the Scots-Irish culture in the USA kind of began with Hadrian’s Wall when the Romans were kicking butt in England, and when the Vikings/English got into the act, southern Scotland near the Wall became a constant war zone, with the people there trying to eke out a living off the land between invasions. Once the English finally conquered them, they got used as cannon fodder for “settling”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantation_of_Ulster

    Ireland, as the English finished conquering their neighbors. When the English eventually began to invade North America, those same hapless “borderer Scots” were used as buffer peoples between the nascent landed gentry in the good lands of Virginia and the Indians who were being dispossessed. The English got all the good land in the valley bottoms, while the “buffer peoples” got the hills, where you really could not farm very easily, but were reduced to hunting deer and squirrels. That is where America’s “hillbillies” came from, and that rural poor culture, as they became America’s cannon fodder, were a bunch of flag-saluting warriors, marching off to wars in distant lands. Before Dennis had his awakening:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#voice

    he had his rite of passage in the military, and got in fist fights with any fellow soldiers who dared say anything bad about America. When a man’s prospects in life are poor, it is not too difficult to convince him to go play soldier, as he inflicts great evils onto others. Nobody wants to believe that they serve evil, so they play many games in their heads to turn murder and exploitation into noble deeds. American nationalistic ideology is founded on that principle:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#bitter

    All groups of men can easily become mass murderers.

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#browning

    So, along with all the lessons in kindergarten about being a good citizen comes the glorification of violence and warfare as a noble undertaking, and all of those dominant ideologies have scarcity as their underlying premise:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

    they all are egocentric, and they work, because adhering to them gives people a full belly. As I wrote in my latest change to my site, there is only one great ape species that was able to avoid the murderer-male syndrome, the bonobos:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#bonobo

    How did they do it? The evidence today is pretty clear. In the fluctuating climate of the Pleistocene Ice Age, as the African rain forest grew and shrank, gorillas migrated away from a region when it dried up, but the chimpanzees stayed. Gorillas evolved to eat more leafy matter than chimpanzees did, and gorillas therefore could become more sedentary, and their social organization reflected it. Where gorillas and chimpanzees occupied the same area, the gorillas got the leafy matter while the chimpanzees had to roam more to get their food (mainly fruit). Because the chimpanzee diet was more restricted, their foraging parties had to be smaller, and they were male-dominated. The males always dominated due to their superiority of violence. All of the great apes are dimorphic, so they can physically dominate the females. However, with the bonobos, it was different. Because the gorillas migrated away during a dry epoch (when the glaciers were expanding to the north) and never returned, the remaining chimpanzees evolved to eat that leafy matter, their foraging parties could become larger, and the females eventually were able to overcome the male penchant for violence and essentially ganged up on them. Now, the bonobos know peace, and are the only ape species, including humans, who enjoy it. Why? Economics.

    In the human journey, there are extremely few examples of pre-industrial civilizations that did not have some form of forced servitude. Slavery was “normal” in a world of sedentary humans and economic deprivation. Slavery did not end in the West until rising standards of living due to industrialization made the institution obsolete. We still have varieties of forced servitude today (and more so in the poorer nations), even if it is relatively benign taxation, which is why I say we are still a scarcity-based society, even in history’s richest and most powerful nation.

    There are some examples that we can point to, of pre-industrialized civilizations that did not have warriors and slaves, such as the Chumash of California. However, the evidence is strong that, like all pre-industrial civilizations, they were vulnerable to climate fluctuations, and when they got hungry, they had wars. The Chumash were able to create a regionally-integrated economy, where starvation became a thing of the past, and in their rich material culture, with the easy-living conditions of the Southern California coast, they are one of the few cultures ever discovered that was not warlike, had no forced servitude, and would have been a very nice place to live. Of course, they were nearly entirely exterminated by the Spanish mission system:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#serra

    I hunted for Chumash artifacts as a child under the supervision of an anthropologist, as she searched for a site for a dig.

    I did my interview on this part of my site:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#stage1

    with Scott yesterday. While we followed the outline of those sections, I think that my favorite part of that talk was near the end, when we were just chatting about the FE conundrum and the motivation of everybody who I respect in that field. They are all overgrown Boy Scouts:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#scouts

    who desired for nothing more than helping to heal humanity and the planet. We all began our journeys naively, and eventually woke up when we realized that almost nobody else was motivated like we were, and how the system is based on Big Evil Lies.

    When slavery ended, it was not like everybody at once decided that that evil institution must end. It was brought about by rising living standards, and people began to realize that slavery was not cool. If FE made its appearance, it is very likely that all of the ideologies and institutions that justify genocide and exploitation will become obsolete. That was part of what Scott and I talked about.

    The fact is, like Machiavelli stated:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#machiavelli

    the average person is going to wake up to FE and the idea of abundance when FE is delivered to his home. That is the reality of life on Earth and our currently semi-sentient species. I can wish for it to be different, and I hope that one day it is, but these are the people whom we share the planet with today, and people like me have felt the call to help us get someplace a lot better.

    It really would not take many of us, but achieving that heart-centered sentience that can leap the octave is the hard part. Ideas and material reality are deeply conjoined. As Brian O said in a recent interview, many “New Agey” types seem to have the “let's love each other” message down, but they do not have a practical bone in their bodies of how to bring it about. I survived the front lines of making practical attempts, and I am here to share what I learned. Among the lessons that I learned, I found that a few Boy Scouts can’t do it, that the people ruling the world purposely keep us mired in scarcity so they can keep calling the shots, and that more people with their hearts in the right place, who have also engaged their brains, are what is needed to give something like FE and abundance a chance of manifesting on Earth. In today’s world, that is not only the “nice” way to do it; it may very well be the only way with a prayer.

    Keep up the observations, young man.

    Best,

    Wade
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    and that more people with their hearts in the right place, who have also engaged their brains, are what is needed to give something like FE and abundance a chance of manifesting on Earth. In today’s world, that is not only the “nice” way to do it; it may very well be the only way with a prayer.

    That sums up the situation nicely Wade. BTW, never forget that sometimes a "Hail Mary" pass connects... Game over...


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