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    hi Wade,

    just hopped on your thread here a couple days ago and have been slowly catching up. i don't know why i waited so long to check it out! keep up the great work brother!

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    Ah, Sandy,

    I am a semi-nerd, not a full nerd. In Microsoft’s backyard, being a nerd is practically a badge of honor. But for interacting with the public, my medium is going to be writing and the occasional interview. I am also a half-deaf semi-nerd, and it is getting worse. I have been told that one-on-one, I am fine, but it does not work for groups. I agree. I am in the autism spectrum, a little closer to normal than a Bill Gates, Einstein or Newton, who are/were all Asperger’s types, but it is still nerd territory. I have worked in corporations for nearly my entire career, and I never had the political skills to be a CFO, for instance. I am OK with how I am, and don’t want to try to overreach and be some kind of public speaker.

    Also, people like me who do seminars and the like are the targets of murder attempts. I am not kidding. I also have many people gunning for me who are not on the payroll. This walled garden of Avalon may make it appear that this is relatively safe subject matter, but it is not. In general public forums, the trolls and assailants come swarming. That troll who camped on my thread at ATS:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/critics.htm#troll2

    was probably a professional, and was doing Mr. Skeptic’s work for him. Until now, every forum I ever participated in, or any site that featured my work, soon got a visit from Mr. Skeptic, as he spewed his disinformation.

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/skeptic.htm

    He is probably a professional, but I could be wrong. It is more psychologically interesting if his 15-year crusade was rooted in his ego, but he is probably being paid to do it.

    If I went on tour, the CIA would show up, as would local law enforcement, and so would some provocateurs. Sometimes, the military shows up, and not in a friendly way. One of the specialties of the people keeping the lid on this stuff is psychotronically implanting a cancer tumor on you. They did it to Greer and his crew:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#adamiak

    Just last week, I was in a conversation, hearing about the latest adventures of one of my fellow travelers, and we run in the same circles. He has survived around a dozen murder attempts, including four times when he suddenly had advanced cancer manifest in his body. They have tried to poison him, shoot him, give him “accidental” falls out of windows, etc. I am not referring to Dennis, either. Dennis has also survived several murder attempts on his journey. One was an assassination attempt as one of his bodyguards tried to kill him with a Bowie knife. Other pals have had “heart attacks,” either right after direct threats, or when they ticked off some high ranking official because they would not play ball. One of them that I know of was over the ET issue, and another was over the FE issue.

    Then, people like Mallove get murdered.

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#mallove

    Even if the police “solve the crime” as they seem to be about to, I will never totally buy the explanation. The timing of Mallove’s murder was strange, and it spurred Brian to move to South America. I get it.

    The last time I saw Dennis, he told me about doing a show in Detroit’s backyard, with his high MPG technology. He wondered how that was going to go down, and as the room filled with the audience, in comes the Militia of Michigan (yes, those unemployed auto workers in camo fatigues ). They lined the room, to provide security. Dennis did not ask for that protection, but understood why they did it. Dennis is a folk hero in those circles.

    When I helped found NEM:

    http://www.newenergymovement.org/

    I ran the registration table at our 2004 conference in Portland. I would rather have been anyplace else on Earth, but I was the money guy, and my wife helped me. When it was over, she said that it would have been no surprise to her if a bunch of the attendees were CIA, etc. Many of them were shady-looking characters. It is well known that the CIA swarms at events like that (they have to produce their ID when asked, and they do), but they are not the people you have to watch out for. It is the “privatized” goons that cause the mischief, like Bill the BPA Hit Man:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hitman.htm

    All of that comes with the territory of engaging the public in the flesh on these subjects, and I want no part of it. Been there, done that. At our shows in Ventura, Mr. Deputy was in the audience, and the next day was readying his search warrant:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#mr

    As I read the FTC’s charges against Dennis not long ago:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#ftc

    I wondered when the goons were going to show up at my house. I have had my office stripped to the walls before, and have no desire to repeat the experience.

    When I went back with Dennis in 1996, I will never forget the feeling I had when I opened a letter from our phone company, notifying us that the Justice Department had subpoenaed our phone records and then gagged the phone company for six months from letting us know that they had. They subpoenaed our records when Dennis was doing his barnstorming tours, and it brought back memories of the sharks circling. That was probably independent of the sting operation that we were subjected to:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/other.htm#darker

    I don’t want to live through that stuff again. In these Homeland Security days, it is actually against the law for my phone company to notify me that my phone records were subpoenaed.

    Heck, in a “safe” forum like Avalon, almost nobody even uses their real names. That is the level of courage that we are dealing with right now. I will be trying to mount a conversation where people use their real names, and it will be by invitation only or a very carefully considered application. Avalon might not be the place to host it, but I am hopeful. If that conversation ever gets going, then we can see where it goes from there, but I do not want to play duck in a shooting gallery. I refuse to speak publicly in Seattle, and have turned down invitations to do so. Many lives were wrecked here in the 1980s when they took out Dennis’s effort,

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#run

    and people have not forgotten, and I do not want to be the face of those days for them.

    This is subject matter that many armchair “conspiracists” find fascinating, but it is not so fun in real life. I usually get voyeurism or denial on those subjects, and neither reaction is a mature one. Seeing lives wrecked and prematurely ended is no fun. I am trying to navigate a path to FE that avoids those risks, and playing the seminar game with the public runs right into that buzz saw.

    Good luck with the Silva course. When I heard that it is no longer live instruction, I wondered how it would work. A good instructor can make a big difference, but the exercises were the important parts, and on tape can probably work. I will be interested to see how that goes.

    Hi Chinaski:

    Thanks, and happy reading.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi:

    I hope that I can keep this one relatively short. One of the reasons for joining something like Avalon is giving more information to interested readers that will likely never make it into my website. The process of making these posts and doing these interviews is bringing up many memories. Not all of them are pleasant, by any means, but some are, and revisiting the memories is also therapy for me, like therapy for soldiers suffering from PTSD. I could not have embarked on this Avalon effort five years ago. I was in the depths of one hell of a midlife crisis:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#journey

    Even now, I cannot engage the general public. Virtually none of them have any understanding of what I am talking about, and that is OK. It is just where humanity is these days. Even in Avalon, I get some rude or bizarre PMs. I just got one this morning. It comes with the territory.

    My previous post on pressing the flesh with the public brought up a memory of when I met Dennis. When we first made eye contact, there was something happening there, although neither of us knew what was in store. As Brian O once said, if he knew what he was in for when he left The Citadel of establishment science, he would never have left. I know the feeling.

    When I met Dennis, he had a bodyguard when he engaged the public. Dennis did not ask for one, but he received so many death threats when the Seattle operation was being destroyed:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#run

    that his head of marketing hired a bodyguard for him. I talked with the guy at one of Dennis's public events. He was a nice guy and knew the lay of the land. He had pal who developed a 200 MPG carburetor, and knew what Dennis was up against, but the memory that is kind of funny is how Dennis met his bodyguard. The guy was Latino, about six-foot five-inches and about 240 pounds of rippling muscle. He was a martial arts expert and a professional bodyguard, and he carried a pistol. He just showed up at Dennis's house one night. When Dennis opened the door, the bodyguard said, "Mr. Lee?" Dennis then walked out the front door and closed it. He said, "OK, you can take me out right here in my front yard and I will not resist. Please just leave my wife and daughters alone." The bodyguard replied, slightly stunned, "Mr. Lee, I am your bodyguard, hired by [your head of marketing]." Nothing happened at the public meetings where the bodyguard had to act, but there were plenty of sharks at those meetings, as I discovered later. One guy at the company carried an automatic pistol in his briefcase. When he told me that, I got a little leery of him; he was not the sharpest tool in the shed. Dennis has had bodyguards a number of times on his journey, and once one of his bodyguards (a policeman) tried to kill him, and Dennis used his soldier skills and got off with only some superficial knife wounds, and the hit man spent a long time behind bars.

    When we were raided,

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#raid

    Mr. Engineer's son was visiting us, and he was a burly truck driver who bucked bales of hay every day. When the raid hit, he was not at our office, and we were happy that he was not, because he may well have resisted the cops, and they love killing people like that. I have a mentally disabled relative who is a redneck, and a close relative confiscated his weapons when that was all going down, so he wouldn't do anything deadly stupid. These are real risks in that arena.

    As I discussed with Scott and Tom, beginning about 54 minutes into this interview:

    http://www.spectrumradionetwork.com/...inventors.html

    one of the issues that you deal with in this field is that it is not easy to tell the provocateurs from the normal shark tank "entrepreneurs." As I have discussed, I do not know if Mr. Skeptic is on the payroll or not, but his only possible defense to his libelous Skeptical Inquirer article:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#dishonest

    is that he is a blithering idiot, but he is too clever to be that stupid. So, he is being consciously dishonest, and once he took off his mask for me, I stopped interacting with him (although he attacked me on the Internet whenever he could). But whether his dishonesty is due to his ego or because it is his job is really not too important. They end up doing the same damage. Again, the biggest threat that any FE aspirant has comes from his "allies," believe it or not.

    Hey, that was relatively short.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Ah, Sandy,

    I am a semi-nerd, not a full nerd. In Microsoft’s backyard, being a nerd is practically a badge of honor. But for interacting with the public, my medium is going to be writing and the occasional interview. I am also a half-deaf semi-nerd, and it is getting worse. I have been told that one-on-one, I am fine, but it does not work for groups. I agree. I am in the autism spectrum, a little closer to normal than a Bill Gates, Einstein or Newton, who are/were all Asperger’s types, but it is still nerd territory. I have worked in corporations for nearly my entire career, and I never had the political skills to be a CFO, for instance. I am OK with how I am, and don’t want to try to overreach and be some kind of public speaker.

    Also, people like me who do seminars and the like are the targets of murder attempts. I am not kidding. I also have many people gunning for me who are not on the payroll. This walled garden of Avalon may make it appear that this is relatively safe subject matter, but it is not. In general public forums, the trolls and assailants come swarming. That troll who camped on my thread at ATS:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/critics.htm#troll2

    was probably a professional, and was doing Mr. Skeptic’s work for him. Until now, every forum I ever participated in, or any site that featured my work, soon got a visit from Mr. Skeptic, as he spewed his disinformation.

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/skeptic.htm

    He is probably a professional, but I could be wrong. It is more psychologically interesting if his 15-year crusade was rooted in his ego, but he is probably being paid to do it.

    If I went on tour, the CIA would show up, as would local law enforcement, and so would some provocateurs. Sometimes, the military shows up, and not in a friendly way. One of the specialties of the people keeping the lid on this stuff is psychotronically implanting a cancer tumor on you. They did it to Greer and his crew:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#adamiak

    Just last week, I was in a conversation, hearing about the latest adventures of one of my fellow travelers, and we run in the same circles. He has survived around a dozen murder attempts, including four times when he suddenly had advanced cancer manifest in his body. They have tried to poison him, shoot him, give him “accidental” falls out of windows, etc. I am not referring to Dennis, either. Dennis has also survived several murder attempts on his journey. One was an assassination attempt as one of his bodyguards tried to kill him with a Bowie knife. Other pals have had “heart attacks,” either right after direct threats, or when they ticked off some high ranking official because they would not play ball. One of them that I know of was over the ET issue, and another was over the FE issue.

    Then, people like Mallove get murdered.

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#mallove

    Even if the police “solve the crime” as they seem to be about to, I will never totally buy the explanation. The timing of Mallove’s murder was strange, and it spurred Brian to move to South America. I get it.

    The last time I saw Dennis, he told me about doing a show in Detroit’s backyard, with his high MPG technology. He wondered how that was going to go down, and as the room filled with the audience, in comes the Militia of Michigan (yes, those unemployed auto workers in camo fatigues ). They lined the room, to provide security. Dennis did not ask for that protection, but understood why they did it. Dennis is a folk hero in those circles.

    When I helped found NEM:

    http://www.newenergymovement.org/

    I ran the registration table at our 2004 conference in Portland. I would rather have been anyplace else on Earth, but I was the money guy, and my wife helped me. When it was over, she said that it would have been no surprise to her if a bunch of the attendees were CIA, etc. Many of them were shady-looking characters. It is well known that the CIA swarms at events like that (they have to produce their ID when asked, and they do), but they are not the people you have to watch out for. It is the “privatized” goons that cause the mischief, like Bill the BPA Hit Man:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hitman.htm

    All of that comes with the territory of engaging the public in the flesh on these subjects, and I want no part of it. Been there, done that. At our shows in Ventura, Mr. Deputy was in the audience, and the next day was readying his search warrant:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#mr

    As I read the FTC’s charges against Dennis not long ago:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#ftc

    I wondered when the goons were going to show up at my house. I have had my office stripped to the walls before, and have no desire to repeat the experience.

    When I went back with Dennis in 1996, I will never forget the feeling I had when I opened a letter from our phone company, notifying us that the Justice Department had subpoenaed our phone records and then gagged the phone company for six months from letting us know that they had. They subpoenaed our records when Dennis was doing his barnstorming tours, and it brought back memories of the sharks circling. That was probably independent of the sting operation that we were subjected to:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/other.htm#darker

    I don’t want to live through that stuff again. In these Homeland Security days, it is actually against the law for my phone company to notify me that my phone records were subpoenaed.

    Heck, in a “safe” forum like Avalon, almost nobody even uses their real names. That is the level of courage that we are dealing with right now. I will be trying to mount a conversation where people use their real names, and it will be by invitation only or a very carefully considered application. Avalon might not be the place to host it, but I am hopeful. If that conversation ever gets going, then we can see where it goes from there, but I do not want to play duck in a shooting gallery. I refuse to speak publicly in Seattle, and have turned down invitations to do so. Many lives were wrecked here in the 1980s when they took out Dennis’s effort,

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#run

    and people have not forgotten, and I do not want to be the face of those days for them.

    This is subject matter that many armchair “conspiracists” find fascinating, but it is not so fun in real life. I usually get voyeurism or denial on those subjects, and neither reaction is a mature one. Seeing lives wrecked and prematurely ended is no fun. I am trying to navigate a path to FE that avoids those risks, and playing the seminar game with the public runs right into that buzz saw.

    Good luck with the Silva course. When I heard that it is no longer live instruction, I wondered how it would work. A good instructor can make a big difference, but the exercises were the important parts, and on tape can probably work. I will be interested to see how that goes.

    Hi Chinaski:

    Thanks, and happy reading.

    Best,

    Wade
    Dear Wade,

    Please forgive me for being naive regarding the public exposure that seminars would bring to you and the negative repercussions. I hear you loud and clear, understand and comprehend the level of harm that may come your way. I do not want you or anyone for that matter to be in harms ways if it can be avoided so I'm grateful you are keeping yourself safe in the ways that you know work for you and your loved ones. Thank you for the learning once again and I will say no more about going public.

    However, I do reaffirm you are a super communicator!!

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    Hey Sandy, my dear:

    I know that you mean well. I say it a lot: everybody whom I really respect in these fields began their journeys naively. Dennis called me naïve when I became his partner in Boston.

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#chasing

    I was not offended, and he was right. Two years later my naïveté (or at least most of it ) was beaten out of me pretty brutally. I always like to err on the side of naïveté rather than cynicism, but this FE territory is far from "normal." No New Age seminar guy was ever offered a billion dollars to go away. Those kinds of offers only happen in the FE and related technology fields. It is where the Big Boys play, and those fools who try to scale the ramparts, until they are removed from the scene by the carrots and sticks.

    I am sympathetic to those who want to mount public efforts around this stuff, do barnstorming and so on. I have been there, but that terrain ended up being a little too rough for me. Anybody who plays at those levels is risking their lives, in many ways, some of which are far from obvious. That is why I say that nobody should even dream of embarking on a journey like that unless they have saint-like motivation. The people who play at those levels, and I have known and encountered a fair number of them, are all risking their lives, and they know it. All of them have survived murder attempts, and they figure that their lives are forfeit, and they just hope that they can make some positive impact before their number comes up. I can only look on in awe when I see it. Only a few people on Earth today are fit for that task. I sure am not fit for it, and I don't want to do it, either.

    Earlier in this thread, I responded to the question if what I was doing was risky:

    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post216610

    I replied that I did not think so, but I am not sure. Again, I have no idea if what I am attempting will make the impact that I hope it will, but I had to try. I am not looking to attract people's attention, and rip it away from whatever else they are pursuing. I am looking for people with a thirst for the truth, a desire to help heal humanity and the planet, and who are able to lay aside their indoctrination long enough that they can simply imagine abundance. If they have that potential, they will find me eventually. Quite a few have come to me that way over the years. I have no illusions that many people today are capable of that. I am shooting for quality, not quantity. Some in this forum have already demonstrated that they are capable of understanding my approach, and they are doing the work. They do not always post on this thread, but I hear from them privately. So, it looks like I am making an impact, and that is all that I can ask for. Some have been using my work in their own public presentations, and I approve and am honored, but they are not playing at the level where I did, I am happy to say. They are playing a less risky game. My past and current associations have put a big bulls-eye on my head in circles where you do not want to have dinner. I will never be able to entirely shed that aspect of my efforts, and that is OK. Others can do seminars in a more innocuous fashion, but if anybody has much success in this field, they will attract attention of the kind that is not always fun to receive.

    Again, most of what I am trying to teach really does not have much of anything to do with FE, per se, but with the big picture of how energy runs the show on Earth, and what FE could do. Because I am doing that, the level of interest in stopping me is less, and approaching the public the way I am also reduces the risk. I am not expecting to have one of those "strange and untimely deaths" that dog the people in this field, but I could be wrong. As Scott said in that recent interview, what I am trying to do is probably the hardest part of my plan to do an FE effort without risking lives:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#pursuing

    and if enough people "get it," that will be enough to shift the paradigm. When I hear that, I think that maybe I am getting too high on the radar, but so far, I seem to be doing fine. If I do begin to get harassed, I plan to make it a public deal, for sure.

    Best,

    Wade
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    @ Wade,

    I reactivated my account on a free energy forum few days ago.
    I spent two days without sleep during the night. I can't stop once the brain starts running.

    Whenever a promising theory or a prototype emerges, the new threads get exploded. Many tinkers rush to find the ultimate solution, then the forum - new prototype - fades away. Less than five tinkers actually build and test by themselves, and they leads the flow of the thread. Some of prototypes demonstrates over unity (COP > 1) which are the highest peak of free energy community. Then suddenly, all the winners hit the wall really hard when it comes to feasibility issues.

    "It works! This is great. I do have over unity from this. Well, I need to improve the efficiency up to 70 to 80%. But, I don't have precision machines or money to build robust prototypes. Damn..." A good analogy is an inventor can build an anti-gravity aircraft using scraps for oneself. The inventor want to like to do mass produce for general public or at least make money by order-base custom build. Well, the problem is except electronics, hardware building tools still at 100 years behind for general public. As the engineering specs demands below 0.01 mm, precise timing, etc., it's beyond the tinker's capacity.

    They know the big companies or investors or schools won't help them out. So, they start to look for another real deal hoping it will have all: proven over-unity theory, easy to build for practical usage.

    The front learners of free energy community occasionally introduces their new version of shinny machines. These looks like the real deal for many tinkers but they can't build nor buy due to the extraordinary circumstances. They all know selling the high-quality prototype kit means one might loose everything especially the manufacturer and the inventor. There exists common understanding.

    A 100W free energy generator kit will ever happen under $200 - $300?
    Coupling five means a smart houser own will be utility bill free forever.

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    Hi Hughe:

    You are seeing an aspect of the conundrum. Tapping the ZPF in one’s garage is very difficult to do. The vast majority of those who try to, don’t. For many years, people have devoted themselves to visiting garages and labs, looking for viable FE devices, even a proof of concept. Mallove did it, O’Leary did it, Dennis and his advisors did it, and so have others. Yes, the technology available to a garage tinkerer is simply not there today. Also, the technical challenge is just one of many pitfalls. Yes, they all operate on a shoestring. When I was in the game, almost all of them wanted to get patents and make the big time.

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#alpha

    That will never work in this environment.

    If a tinkerer really taps the ZPF, he comes onto Godzilla’s radar. Lone tinkerers do not have a prayer in today’s environment. The open source movement has part of the solution, because it removes the greed and capitalistic aspect. But how do you get the funds to really develop something good? No parts house is going to give you materials because your cause is noble. This is part of the conundrum. I do not want to say it is impossible, but the odds of a successful tinker FE revolution, where people can build FE devices in their garages with material obtained from their local parts house, is extremely unlikely in today’s environment.

    That issue of machinery and tolerances is a common one in FE circles. You can hear Trombly talking about it some, here:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHuLCSOKV4Y

    That is one reason why I say that going to a remote nation, where you think that you can escape Godzilla’s reach, has its own pitfalls, including the lack of local technical resources. That is partly why most FE invention and suppression activity happens in the USA.

    That is also partly why I say that the only prayer that the inventor route has is for the inventor with the goods giving it to a worthy group. With open source, there may be more inventors willing to give it away, but I have to see that happen, and I have yet to see that worthy group. It has to be a group that is united on the goal, leaving self-interest in the back seat. Because personal integrity is the world’s scarcest commodity:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

    and the implications of FE are so overwhelming, and can lead to innumerable delusions of grandeur:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#grandeur

    the people who can form that worthy group are like needles in haystacks. I remember, when we were flying high in Ventura before they lowered the boom on us, and I had my own fleeting delusions of grandeur, becoming the President or some such. That is one of the many hazards. One famous FE inventor literally thought that he was the Second Coming.

    My efforts, especially at Avalon, can be considered to be rounding up that worthy group, but we are a long, long way from getting there. I really am not trying to create that worthy group to receive a prototype to take to the finish line, but I am doing something different: raising awareness about the energy issue in general and what FE can mean. If that awareness gets raised, forming that worthy group will be a lot easier. A big part of the problem is that FE aspirants wander in a desert of indifference and avarice, usually nursing dreams of making it big while grinding it out in their garage, with no allies. They mortgaged their house, maxed out their credit cards, borrowed from friends and family, have a long-suffering wife, and so on. That is the typical path. Tinkerers are not going to get it done, not in today’s environment. The path of capitalism, applying for patents and such, is a complete dead end. When an inventor applies for a patent, Godzilla yawns and sends out one of his low-ranking minions to deal with the nuisance.

    Very few tinkerers ever tap the ZPF, and if they do, Godzilla opens an eye. Lone tinkerers then become subject to the “game theory” tactics that I heard Bearden talk about:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#bearden

    and we were on the receiving end of most of that bag of tricks. No garage tinkerer will ever be allowed to make the big time, not in today’s environment. I have literally had tinkerers tell me that they were doing it in hopes of receiving the golden handcuffs. They saw their efforts as trying to win the Godzilla Lottery, getting those millions and then retiring. I tried to inform them that Godzilla may rarely breathe fire, but that does not mean that he does not like to once in a while, just to keep in practice. He is just prudent, and when taking out FE efforts becomes a full-time gig, he gets good at it and becomes efficient. No need to breathe fire or lash his tail, when a growl or a flick of his claw will do the job. If Godzilla figured out that the tinkerer was doing it for the payout (and don’t think that you can outsmart or deceive Godzilla), he might have to make an example out of that tinkerer, to discourage that sort of thing.

    These are all hazards of the tinkerer path, and I would not put my money on that path ever bearing fruit on the FE playing field. The tinkerer path to FE is a distraction, IMO, but inventor-itis is an epidemic disease with no known cure.

    I am trying to do something radically different, and it really is pretty indifferent to the entire tinkerer path. If enough awareness was raised, I think that entire situation could be moved out of Tinkererland and get into the right facility for doing it, something that looked like an Intel chip factory. A solid state device is really the only one that we should be considering for powering the world. Sparky Sweet’s was the kind of prototype that we should be thinking of:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#sweet

    Of course, in the current environment, that will not work either, because anybody raising the money to play at that level will get Godzilla’s full attention. But if there were enough members of an aware and engaged public, Godzilla might well slink away. As Scott said in my latest interview, getting an aware and engaged public, one that understands the big picture, what the potential and pitfalls are, and understands how energy fits into the world paradigm, might be the hardest job of all. Well, he may be right, and that is the job that I decided to sign up for about twenty years ago, in my “spare” time.

    We will see how it goes.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Quote That is one reason why I say that going to a remote nation, where you think that you can escape Godzilla’s reach, has its own pitfalls, including the lack of local technical resources. That is partly why most FE invention and suppression activity happens in the USA.

    That is also partly why I say that the only prayer that the inventor route has is for the inventor with the goods giving it to a worthy group. With open source, there may be more inventors willing to give it away, but I have to see that happen, and I have yet to see that worthy group. It has to be a group that is united on the goal, leaving self-interest in the back seat. Because personal integrity is the world’s scarcest commodity:
    Exactly. That's what I've been experiencing here. The infrastructure of technologies and resources is 50 to 100 years behind compared to USA. Working as a field technician or engineers are treated nothing but machines. One thing I really miss is the space and privacy. I used to visit friends house and work on my/their cars in the small garage, having few bears and chitchatting, wood firework sometimes in the night back in Canada.

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    Hi Hughe:

    This conundrum has been chewed on by Einsteinian types for a very long time, at least back to Tesla. Many, many pitfalls await the inexperienced and unwary. My approach may not have a prayer, either, but I never saw it tried before. Even that 100-years-ahead USA technology is still way short of people making FE devices in their garages, and that is just the technical part of the problem. The other aspects, money, the T-Rexes, velociraptors, your own foibles and your “allies” then take out almost all aspirants before Godzilla even needs to roll out of bed. I am sympathetic to those who end up in Level 8:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#chart

    but nobody that I respect in the field is there. We are all doing what we can.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hey Wade,

    Do you have a book on your work?

    cheers.

    Back to your site now
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    Hi Honestee:

    Yes, if enough of us stood up, with full hearts that guided our heads, Earth would get turned into paradise very quickly. But that is part of the conundrum. Yes, it has to be peaceful, loving, and so forth. Yes, turning predators into vegetarians has long been a dream of mine:

    http://www.serendipity.li/fe/minefields.htm

    Just this morning, I was informed that what I have been stirring up lately has led to some CIA interest. No news there. I have had to assume that I have been under surveillance since 1988. But, they usually just watch. I was almost subjected to their recruiting efforts long ago:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#cia

    but I got “lucky” once again. Keeping my eyes lifted upward, being pure in the spirit, has always been my best protection. The ride has been by no means easy, but when I acted from the heart, then the miracles happened:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#it

    I have some principles that I work from in the kind of effort that I am doing today, and it has led to me being left alone, at least so far. I don’t want inside stuff (that alluring “bait” has snared countless people), I don’t want to be a part of any FE effort, not when they are playing the sneaky game, the raise capital game and get patents, and so on. The day that an inventor with the goods gives it away in the light of day to a worthy group, then we will have something worth talking about. Until that day happens, all independent efforts will get nowhere.

    I am not looking for money; I am not looking for recruits to go scale the ramparts; I am not trying to expose the “powerful”; I am just looking for people who can lay aside their scarcity-based indoctrination for long enough so that can simply imagine abundance. Almost nobody can accomplish that today, so if enough of us can just get to that level, then we might be able to do something. If enough people really got to that level (I am pretty much talking about Level 12s here http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level12 ), then the “harmonic” effects alone might catalyze the change. People might call me a dreamer, and that is OK. I might call my effort the “Looking for Dreamers” approach.

    We will see how it goes.

    Best,

    Wade

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    Hi Sandy, Wade, Scott and all wondrous kindred spirits.

    (Veering slightly off course)

    Growth occurs in response to resistance. I find this to be truly heartening. For the resistance to this paradigm shift is tremendous. The greater the resistance the more pronounced the growth spurt is likely to be. Like a bow, the more you pull back on the string, the further the arrow will fly.

    I believe we are soon to catapult forward on a trajectory the world of man has never known before.

    The only question is who is taking aim and at what?

    Thank you, Wade, for this thread and for providing the laser guided targetting. What a mind you have, my friend.

    What else is there to say?

    Peace

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    Hey Ernie:

    Your keyboard to God's ears.

    Yes, this is the big one. The conundrum has many facets, each one of which can become a rabbit hole. I recall reading some channeled stuff not long ago that said something like "A test is not supposed to be easy. Otherwise, it would not be much of a test."

    What you are writing is very similar to what Roads's mentor told him:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#suppress

    My copy of that book is falling apart, and not long ago, the only way to get another copy was for about $200 on Amazon, but Roads is selling them on his site today, at a paperback price, and he has a few new books that I need to get ahold of. So many books, so little time.

    I have been meaning to make another quote from that book (Roads's wife gave me permission for that quote many years ago), which went something like Roads asking his mentor about life as a human on Earth, reincarnation and the whole physical reality thing. His mentor replied with something like, "Developing sentience is no small task."

    I can only hope that I will live to see the arrow get launched. It has been getting pulled back for a very long time.

    I hope that you are going to enjoy the Canadian summer, there, buddy.

    Best,

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    Hi Honestee:

    No, no book. I have resisted going that path for a number of reasons. It only exists on the Internet. Some want me to make the site printable in a .pdf format, and maybe some day. There apparently are some rendering problems with my site, because it is written in such archaic code. But I am my own web master, working with ten-year-old tools, so one day I will need to do some upgrading, but I am more concerned with making the content good. One day, I will make it easier to read.

    Best,

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    Hey Wade,

    Do you have a book on your work?

    cheers.

    Back to your site now
    What has happened to starlings and the buzzard?! Hey that was very inspiring...

    Best wishes
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    Hi Everyone,

    Great reading and interacting as always. Thanks for the Roads reference Wade as his material sounds fascinating thus have bookmarked his site to research.

    You know Ernie, as I was reading here today I keep thinking how is it that so many cannot see that FE is the answer to all the world's problems. TPTB and all the surrounding issues and conspiracies would be eliminated during the transition, to a world of FE Abundance. One shot, ONE ARROW, to take care of Mother Earth and all her beautiful creatures and creations!! I really like your analogy and too believe the resistance is becoming greater.

    I would venture to say that the Universe will release the arrow with the recognition of enough resistance and "focus" to hit the bulls-eye of FE. There will be no room for turning back. The process is happening whether the masses are fully on board or not and with Wade, Dennis, Brian and many other FE promoters and supporters we have the movement in action. The masses just can't see it, but then we can't see FE either so our belief and vision will bring it into reality. It is just a matter of timing and GOD will manifest this paradigm of abundance from our loving intent and energy.

    I feel it right here when interacting with everyone on this thread and always leave feeling peaceful, enlivened, enlightened and rejuvenated by the loving energy.
    Love and Light Always/Sandy

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    Hey Wade,

    Do you have any info,or have you done any work on vaccinations?
    Do you know the reasons for children having learning difficulties,autism,A.D.D. etc..?

    Cheers.

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    Hey Wade,

    Do you have any info,or have you done any work on vaccinations?
    Do you know the reasons for children having learning difficulties,autism,A.D.D. etc..?

    Cheers.
    Hello Honestee

    I know you directed this question to Wade but perhaps I can help as well in regards to Vaccinations

    Here is a Research links for you:
    Toxic Vacines http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/showt...Toxic-Vaccines

    Parent Speaks out about Vaccination

    I Interviewed Mary Tocco as well about the subject of Vaccines The Danger of Vaccines

    Hope that helps

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    Hi:

    Some version of the ideas in this post will make it into my site one day. One of the problems with cyberspace is that it is a virtual reality. Many people are not treating this thread and FE in general like reality, but more like a diverting tale. While conspiracism is a disease of the mind and spirit:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#conspiracism

    this FE situation is all too real, but I continually see responses, here and elsewhere, that do not treat it that way. I don’t necessarily mean that people doubt that FE exists, but they deny that Godzilla exists and is vigilant, they deny that an FE aspirant’s greatest hazard is himself and his “allies,” they believe that the public is eagerly awaiting and would immediately embrace FE, and so forth. I see it all the time, where people trying to be helpful project their sense of daily reality onto the situation, and think that the “normal” methods will work, such as thinking that they can raise money and make FE happen, tell their friends and family about FE, that they can make an FE device in their garage, etc. It also seems that no matter how many times I try to dispel those misconceptions, many people continue to fail to understand, and their misunderstandings are in areas that can be fatal. As I stated in my interview with Scott and Tom:

    http://www.youtube.com/user/Spectrum.../4/ZI39RzWxCOQ

    when I try to tell would-be aspirants about the minefield that they are about to try dancing across, they do not want to hear it. It is like trying to tell an 18-year-old boy what a battlefield is like:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#business

    I am seeing the beginner’s misperceptions flaunted so much these days, and so persistently, that I am beginning to wonder if my approach is workable. My journey was a very strange one, with being groomed for my path almost from the cradle, with a voice in my head leading me into the business world and into Dennis Lee’s company. It was far larger than life. I also got to see many lives get wrecked, including mine. Mr. Professor’s ruined life and early death:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#journey

    will haunt me for the rest of my Earthly days, even though Mr. Professor, his widow, Dennis and his wife say that it was not my fault. I still own a piece of his fate. I am going to try, once again, to dispel some of the persistent misperceptions around the FE situation, misperceptions that many of my fellow travelers have also promoted, delusions that I once believed, too.

    Virtually nobody in the FE milieu or the interested public has any experience with disruptive technology, either with building viable equipment or taking it to market. That is a big reason why the delusions take root and persist, IMO. Inventor-itis is an incurable disease, and New Agey and other beginners’ perspectives are also not helpful for the FE pursuit. Until people can lay aside their scarcity-based conditioning:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

    they can’t get to Level 12:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level12

    I am not interested in getting us to all leap to Level 19, or play the Level 7 or Level 10 games. I am trying to play the Level 12 game. So far, I have only encountered a few genuine Level 12s in my lifetime. A Level 12 is not going to hold the perspectives of the earlier levels. They once lived in the earlier levels, but they eventually left them behind. It is very possible that what I learned cannot be taught, and people need to go find out for themselves, but not many can survive the lessons of the other levels, especially the higher ones. That is part of the conundrum.

    Today, I am going to try to address inventor-itis and the disruptive technology milieu. I grew up in an inventor’s workshop:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse

    Sometimes I did the grunt work, helping Mr. Mentor build his contraptions. The inventor’s orientation toward the energy issue was my original one. As is evident in my site, I am a learning junkie. With Mr. Mentor and Dennis, I had the great fortune to learn at the feet of two world-class geniuses. I know enough to stay out of the way when a genius is at work. But, as amazing as genius may seem, it has its limitations, and we all have our blind spots. Putting aside FE, history has almost no examples where a lone inventor became rich and famous by inventing. They almost always get screwed. Everything that Mr. Mentor invented was stolen or suppressed, which the standard story. In the FE milieu, amp up the dynamics about a thousand times, and you will get some sense of the field of play that FE inventors face.

    Even though I lived in Dayton in 1990-1991, and visited the Air Force museum there a number of times, it was not until 1994 that I read in Richard Milton’s Forbidden Science of the incredible feat of denial engaged in by the scientific establishment, where the Wright brothers’ feat was ignored and even ridiculed for nearly five years:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#wright

    I told Dennis about it in early 1996, and it has since become an example used in various ways when explaining the FE milieu. But, in significant ways, the example is misleading when applied to the FE milieu. At its most useful, the Wright brothers’ tale is an example of the closed-mindedness of institutional science, and how it has continually abandoned its guiding principle of observation. As Brian O has said, the situation of institutional science ignoring data while worshipping its theories is worse today than it was in the Wright brother’s day. Brian also makes the analogy that when the Wright brothers were at Kitty Hawk, it was a long way from a Boeing 747, and that an Apollo-Program-level effort can make FE a household reality. Amen.

    Those are the pertinent points regarding the Wright brothers, but in very important ways, the Wright brothers’ story is nothing like the FE milieu. Probably most relevantly, the airplane was not a disruptive technology. The railroad, boat and fledgling automotive industries were not threatened by the appearance of the airplane, nor were horses. Even today, air travel and air freight is a niche industry. In the USA, railroads were displaced by trucks and automobiles, not airplanes. Similarly, the rocket did not displace the automobile, boat, train or airplane. None of them can get into orbit or go to the moon. Einstein’s theory of relativity did not pose an immediate threat to any robber baron industries, which is partly why we know about relativity today.

    If we are going to use the Wright brothers analogy for the FE milieu, instead of the Wright brothers flying at Kitty Hawk and then laboring in obscurity for five years in Dayton, if their airplane had instead been an FE device made during the last thirty years, their story would have gone something like this…

    As they made their wind tunnel to help design their propeller, they were noticed. As they began building their first plane, they were noticed. When they flew at Kitty Hawk, men in dark suits were watching from a distance with binoculars, and as they traveled back home to Dayton, the Wright brothers were approached by different men in suits who offered them a princely sum for the rights to their new contraption.

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#ten

    If they did not accept the first offer, then they might have had some mishaps in their Dayton facility, with it perhaps inexplicably burning down once or twice.

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#ghadiali

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#arson

    And it might have happened right after a new “assistant” came to work for them, for free, just to be around something that amazing.

    Or, somebody might accuse the Wright brothers of crimes such as rape or bestiality. The police would lock them up and only later would witnesses appear, with some claiming to be rape victims, people whom the Wright brothers had never seen before:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#car

    If that did not dissuade them, then their planes would be confiscated in a raid, with their crazy Rube Goldberg device being an obvious scam on the public:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#mr

    even though nobody from the public was complaining. If somehow the Wright brothers survived those “distractions” and miraculously built another plane, when they began flying it, somebody shot at it in flight, sniping from the nearby woods, and the wings eventually became moth-eaten from bullet holes. Sometimes, it was the cops themselves doing the shooting, so complaining to the authorities would only intensify the experience. One of the Wright brothers took a bullet in the chest on one of those ill-fated flights, but survived it. At around the same time, some more men in suits appeared who made the last, best offer. The original offer made on the way back from Kitty Hawk was increased by one hundred times:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#carb

    If the Wright brothers did not take the final offer, then those shadowy interests began playing rough. The Wright brothers’ fate might have been a violent end, but more likely, another set of fabricated charges would have seen them both locked up for a very long time, and if they survived the prison experience, when they were paroled as old men, if they were foolish enough to keep trying to build their silly plane, then they might have been given a show of what they were pursuing, as an act of mercy, if they were very lucky. They would have been invited to a remote setting to watch supersonic craft flitting about the sky, and they would have also been invited aboard a craft that took them to Mars in a few minutes:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

    while the average American was still getting around by horse, and a few of the retail “elite” owned the “cutting edge” horseless carriage, but the people running the world could visit distant galaxies when the fancy took them. While those giving the Wright brothers the exotic technology show did it to encourage them in their quixotic efforts, because they too wanted to live openly with those technologies, instead of hoarding them for the hyper-elites, they were a relatively powerless and disenchanted faction of the elites who would not openly defy the status quo. The elites who really ran the show kept the lid firmly sealed on the airplane, and if those crazy Wright brothers persisted in trying to make airplanes, then they would both meet untimely ends in what seemed to be accidents, random crimes, or bizarre manifestations of disease.

    And the entire time, when the notion of man-powered flight was broached in public, everybody laughed at the ridiculous notion. Man was meant for the ground, the public would say. Flying is a ludicrous idea, brayed the masses. The leading scientists of the day assured the public that flying was impossible, and even if it was, it was so insanely dangerous that it should be outlawed anyway. The day’s equivalent of Carl Sagan would hold forth in the New York Times, informing his readers:

    “Even though man-powered flight is utterly impossible, imagine the danger of planes in the air, flying over secluded areas where they were not welcome, and what if they crashed into each other, and flaming wrecks littered the countryside, even landing on your house, John Q. Public? Manned flight would be humanity’s worst possible nightmare, so you had better stop even imagining it, and pronto.”

    While the Wright brothers worked in relative secrecy, others did, too. An underground movement formed, with many people trying to build airplanes in their garages. But hardly any of them knew what propellers were, how to design wings, and their engines were hand-built kluges that barely ran and were more prone to blowing up than powering a plane. A bunch of secret garage tinkerers littered the countryside, each laboring under delusions of grandeur, paranoia, and most of them hoping for a buyout offer like the first one that the Wright brothers received. If any ever got airborne, the series of events that the Wright brothers experienced would begin. The vast majority of garage tinkerers never got anything airborne to begin with, and for those who did, they usually went broke making their first plane, and if they ever completed one, they probably crashed it on its maiden flight and left the field before they ever got that first offer. For those few who made it to that first offer, the vast majority of them took it, because they were doing it for the money, anyway.

    Another cherished fantasy of the airplane inventors was that if people saw a plane in flight, the magic of capitalism would ensure that planes would soon fill the skies. Some of the benevolently-motivated airplane inventors, all three of them, believed that if they took some pictures of planes in flight and published blueprints so that each person could build their own plane in their garage, then it would be unstoppable. What they found, instead, was that when they published pictures and blueprints, all that came from the public was a collective yawn.

    The public largely replied with:

    “When you make an airplane that I can fly on, let me know. Sure, I would like to fly, but your pictures of planes in flight could have been faked, and Carl Sagan said that it was not only impossible, but manned flight would be humanity’s worst nightmare, as we all would die crashing planes, or somebody else’s plane will crash into my house. Call me skeptical, and no, I don’t want to travel very far to watch your alleged plane in flight. If you can fly over my house, I might come outside and take a look. But even then, I am not sure that I can believe my own eyes, not when Carl Sagan said it is impossible. Anything can be faked.”

    That is a relevant comparison of the airplane and FE, and there is a lot more of that story that could be told, but I think that I got the gist of it across.

    To my knowledge nobody has ever come close to the level that Dennis has played at. He was putting disruptive energy technology on the market:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#run

    and he was not even thinking in terms of FE then. It was only as we picked up the pieces in Boston that we began attracting visible attention at the Global Controller (GC) level. That first buyout offer:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#ten

    was the first time that we had pretty undeniable contact from agents of the GCs. In Ventura, that CIA man who made the billion dollar offer was undoubtedly making the last “friendly” offer to have Dennis go away:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#offer

    But nobody should think that everything that happened after that was all the GCs’ doing. Law enforcement is corrupt everywhere, and much of what Dennis endured was simply free-lance malice engaged by the establishment’s zero-integrity members who are happy to slit innocent throats as one of the more fun parts of their jobs:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#care

    That is just how humanity is these days.

    What made Dennis dangerous was not really the technology, and this is a tremendous misperception amongst the FE crowd. Technology alone does not mean anything, kind of like what Ernie was saying. One of the biggest and most dangerous fantasies among the tinkerers is that if they just come up with an FE prototype, the rest is easy. The more benevolent think that if they just make an FE prototype that people can make in their garages and provide blueprints, it is all over. If that ever happens, the fun has only begun. The GCs have never had to consider the nuclear option before, but don’t think that they can’t and won’t do it, if they think it will “work.” Similarly, FE newbies think that if they get a bunch of money, then FE will be easy to do. Those are typical beginner’s orientations, and can be fatal. I will deal a little with the technical side of it. For starters, working FE prototypes have been made and demonstrated many times.

    While Mark did it in a basement of a nuclear facility (it had a 2-to-1 ratio of energy input-output):

    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ret#post173070

    and Adam demonstrated a prototype in New York City that got a 50-to-1 energy ratio:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#trombly

    and Sparky mailed off working prototypes of his device to the big energy institutions:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#sweet

    which got a million-to-one energy ratio, they all suffered greatly for their efforts, and no survivors of those adventures are trying those avenues today.

    Here are the rough statistics as I know them. About twenty years ago, Steven Greer was told by the “benevolent” faction of the GCs that they paid off ten thousand people an average of ten million dollars each, for $100 billion in total, to “buy cooperation” regarding disruptive technologies that were being developed.

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm#payoff

    When I heard him say that, it made perfect sense to me, because I encountered many instances of the friendly buyout offer (or the offer they cannot refuse). I am guessing, but I would imagine that at least 75% of those buyouts were for energy-related technologies. I would not be surprised if the number is fifteen thousand people today for disruptive energy technologies. In the USA, where most of the FE inventing and suppressing is taking place, the USA’s military has classified more than five thousand technologies, and I believe that more than three thousand of them were energy-related (I am going off the top of my head here, so that might not be completely accurate, but I think it is close).

    I am guessing, but I think that they have had to begin playing rough with inventors and their allies less than a thousand times, or about five percent of the time, at most. Those were for people who really had something and were considered a threat. For those twenty thousand or so who had to be dealt with, probably a quarter million or more never got that far (or maybe it was only a hundred thousand, but it is likely in that order of magnitude), falling by the wayside for one reason or another.

    Because FE would be the most disruptive technology of all time, by far, it is the most closely watched. Dennis may have been the greatest threat that they have had to deal with so far, but he was coming from a different direction than tinkering FE inventors, so he got clear to putting disruptive technology on the market before they had to get involved. The GCs are expert at strangling efforts in their cradles, and have a highly sophisticated bag of tricks to keep the genie in the bottle:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#graph

    When Dennis got involved with his heat pump:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#dennis

    he got “lucky” in that the only exotic piece of technology was the panel. But, unless you could sell a hundred systems at a time, you could not get any panels:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#panel

    and that was just part of the problem. He had to spend millions of dollars on research for making the heat pump work effectively with those panels, and he was always fighting the tunnel vision of his engineers and other technicians. There were issues of quality control, logistics and a host of problems that only become evident when you begin going to market. For those who have run businesses and played the disruptive technology game, you know what I am talking about. I have been involved with disruptive technology efforts in the high tech industry, too, and it works with some passing resemblance to the FE milieu, but the resemblance can be rather vague.

    If you have any exotic components, a tinkerer revolution will never work, and all viable FE technology that I am aware of will need exotic components, especially if the intention is to run a home on it. For all the wonder of those FE prototypes that have been demonstrated over the years, on the FE scale, they should be considered something like a Kitty Hawk demonstration, and most are at the level of demonstrating a wing and propeller in a wind tunnel. Nothing has ever come close to development in the “white” world that can power a Western home. In order to do that, you need hundreds of millions of dollars, and nobody can run under the radar to play that game.

    The idea that if an inventor just gave out blueprints, a tinkerer revolution could not be stopped, is very pervasive. Oh, don’t I wish. There is not a pool of eager, talented, benevolent tinkerers who will take the ball and run with it. I will admit that I have not been too interested in the tinkerer approach for many years and have not kept up on it like others have, but I will be amazed if the prospects for that approach have improved much over the years. Because of my background, I am bombarded with tales of the latest aspirant, even when I repeatedly say that I am not even interested in hearing about it. And in virtually every instance when I get hit with the latest news of the latest aspirant, it immediately becomes evident that they are in Levels 6 or 7, or sometimes 10. Sorry, but those approaches do not have a prayer in today’s environment, which I talk about a little, late in this clip:

    http://www.youtube.com/user/Spectrum.../4/ZI39RzWxCOQ

    I am trying to do something very, very different than encourage a tinkerer stampede, a mass movement, and so on, but I keep getting pigeonholed like that. The problem is not technology, is not capital, and is not that there are not enough inventors. The problem is that there is not an engaged and aware public, and they are almost effortlessly manipulated by the social managers. Manipulating the public mind is a science today, and the vast majority of the population falls right in line.

    Virtually nobody in the public has even a passing awareness of the energy issue and how it runs the world. FE inventors labor in obscurity, but the GCs watch them carefully. An FE inventor with the goods is taken out with a flick of Godzilla’s wrist, but FE newbies think that they can sneak past the GCs, scale the ramparts, and so on. Their naïveté is potentially fatal, and I am going to do everything that I can to discourage them. If you have a working FE prototype, I do not want to see it, and I really do not want to hear about it. There are other places you can go.

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/purpose.htm#build

    In today’s environment, that is the equivalent of a lit stick of dynamite that you think you can bring to a dinner party and impress everybody with. That is pure foolishness, but I see it all the time, and I mean all the time.

    As I have stated, impatience is my Achilles heel:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#reading

    and I guess that my soul knows what it is doing, because I get that one tested almost every day. I am not interested in what the latest FE aspirant is doing. I do not even keep up on what Dennis is doing. I lost interest in those approaches long ago, and am trying to do something different, but it is proving amazingly difficult to get people to shift their awareness from the latest aspirant, the tinkerer approach, etc. They get mesmerized by the spectacle.

    If an aware and engaged public ever appeared, then an FE tinkerer might have a prayer, but I am not holding my breath. I am trying an intermediate strategy. I have been a key player in mass movement FE efforts, and saw how easy they were to derail. I am trying to form an abundance choir. If there ever were a thousand of them (and I mean a thousand knowledgeable, committed people whose abundance song was their own, not simply reading my songbook), we might have a chance. If there were ten thousand of them, FE and a world based on abundance probably could not be stopped. That is what I am shooting for, as quixotic as that might seem. Not much else in the FE milieu interests me anymore.

    Maybe a tinkerer or somebody like Dennis will get to play Kermit one day:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#power

    but I will be looking on from a great distance, if I watch at all. I appreciate the loving hearts that have made themselves known at Avalon, and love is the key to making FE happen, but we have to use our heads, too, and there are innumerable pitfalls for the unwary and naïve, and I do not want to own another piece of some would-be hero’s demise, and I do not want to end up on the roll call of the FE martyrs myself. If enough of us woke up and united in song, it could an amazingly gentle transition to heaven on earth. That is my dream.

    For the next two months, my day job is going to be a nightmare, so I am probably going to be relatively quiet at Avalon. We will see if I can maintain my self-discipline on those matters.

    I plan to maintain that new index to this thread, keeping it relatively updated.

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/public.htm#introduction

    I made it my “home page” in my Avalon profile.

    Enjoy the season,

    Wade
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    Hi Honestee and Scott:

    I write about vaccinations a bit here:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#vaccination

    I have been reading a lot of molecular biology and evolution in the past year, and it is quite an experience to immerse myself in the mainstream science of the issue, and then consume Sherry Tenpenny’s work:

    http://drtenpenny.com/default.aspx

    As I make the case in my medical racket essay, it is primarily a conflict of paradigms, especially in a world of scarcity, when creating and maintaining rackets is the primary preoccupation of the large industries. Virtually all of the interventions of Western medicine are disastrous. It is good for emergency room medicine and not much else.

    Best,

    Wade

    Hi Sandy:

    We will see if we can get off that shot.

    Best,

    Wade

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