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    A little news item this morning is on a new cancer cure. Empower the immune system to do its job. Who would have thought! We will see if the racketeers will allow these treatments that don’t attack the tumor to survive. At $100K a pop, they might. Just about all of the alternatives that I know of abandoned the attack-the-tumor paradigm, usually by empowering the immune system, and for that crime, they were wiped out. If these treatments are going to be allowed to get out there, again, for $100K or more a pop, it will be like that Lockheed fusion “solution,” in that the cheap solutions will be outlawed and wiped out, but at $1 billion a pop, that energy solution will be allowed to thrive. Save patients and the planet and make a killing. That is the “third way” that the racketeers can pursue, in which they let “solutions” dribble out that they can still control and rake the cash from. I can almost live with that, but it is far short of the Fifth Epoch. As long as the racketeers and GCs call the shots, we will definitely still be living in the Super-Epoch of Scarcity.

    Best,

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    I hope it's not another "theranos" thing (no-more-jabs-for-blood-test et al.) But maybe Theranos was made to look bad to safeguard Blood Test Industry not so small profits... (est. @$62 billion by 2024) Compare it to Cancer Treatment market size (est. @$112 billion by 2020) If I got million to billion conversion right The stakes are big.

    But not so big when looked at Energy Market ($1.4 trillion in 2016) which is then surpassed only by Global Consciousness Shaping Industry Market (i.e. "media") by a meager $300 billion
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    Hi Robert:

    You are definitely pointing to some of the global rackets, but numbers are not easy to come by, and have their limitations. Your cancer link looks like it was just to drugs, not the other “treatments.” A decade ago, global energy industry revenues were about $5 trillion per year (the so-called “advanced” sector is pretty small). But all industrial societies ride atop that fossil fuel energy, without which we would all quickly become peasants again, if well-educated ones.

    Economists are an odd lot, are generally disconnected from reality, and are really little more than intellectual warriors of the capital class. Like pretty much all professions, economists are going to disappear in the Fifth Epoch, and particularly their obsession with exchange, which only makes any sense in a world of scarcity.

    If we try to put numbers on it, for starters, free energy is a many quadrillion dollar technology. But far more than that, it is an epochal technology, which will end the world as we know it. That is the frame of mind that the choir will cultivate.

    Happy 2018,

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    Hi:

    I added an update to my savings and loan scandal essay on the cryptocurrency mania and the coming collapse of the latest central bank-created bubble.

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    As far as the Fifth Epoch goes, I have my ideas of what it could look like. I know of and have known people who have made mystical visits to such Epochs, such as what Michael Roads experienced. It does not have to work out that way (1, 2), and it is up to us. While I have been told by people who should know that I am the only person on Earth with something like my particular vision, it is “only” going to be Fifth Epoch Vision 1.0, and nobody will be able to do justice to the Fifth Epoch’s reality before it arrives. It won’t be like anything that humanity ever experienced before, just like the other Epochs. No matter how much we might study and prepare for our afterlives, there is no way that we can really understand realities that don’t have time and space as dimensions.

    Remove scarcity and fear as the background hum of human societies (such as Frank’s life), and we can scarcely imagine what that will be like. It will be like taking a fish out of water. Humanity’s brief golden ages give us some hints, but only vague hints.

    While my adventures gave me a unique perspective and allowed me to hatch my vision for the Fifth Epoch, going through the meat grinder also damaged me. All of my fellow travelers were damaged by the process; it comes with the territory. I would not wish that it had happened differently, as we all have our experiences for reasons, but I expect that people will come along and hit notes that I never did. I look forward to it.

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    Hi:

    I just can't help but feel amazed at the latest archaeological discoveries regarding the Maya. Anything to comment on about this, Wade? I know that you wrote something before about Mesoamerican civilizations in the big essay.

    Just imagine what more can be discovered by humanity, or probably re-discovered, by the time that the Fifth Epoch comes. It tells you that archaeological studies on what the Maya were not complete yet. And Mayans do have an advanced civilization and really died because of the depletion of resources created by this great civilization. It makes sense. I saw a documentary of Earth After People that it noted how Mother Earth will render the planet unrecognizable with a total wipeout of remains of human civilization in 1,000 years except for the Great Pyramids of Giza. Manhattan will return as it looked like before the Dutch arrived and the streets will become rivers and streams. Nothing obvious will be seen that there was once an advanced human civilization living on Earth.

    You relate that to the situation of Mayan archaeology and it make sense that the Bioreserve will have a whole lot of remains.

    Best wishes,

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    Hi Serg:

    Do you mean these discoveries? I have been onboard with a 10 million or more Classic Mayan population for many years. The recent findings do not surprise me, and I have written about the Mayans a bit in my work. Jared Diamond devoted a chapter of Collapse to the Mayan Collapse. The Classic Mayans are a great example of an unsustainable civilization. What existed on the fringes afterward was a shadow of what it was. It is a great time to be a scientist. There is so much to discover and study, with tools that were simply unimaginable even when I was young.

    Humanity is not going to vanish without a trace. There will be plenty for future scientists to dig up. No animal ever changed Earth’s surface like humans have. The evidence will last for billions of years although, yes, not much would remain functional for long. The great pyramids and other stone monuments will last for many millions of years, while steel-reinforced concrete will not last so long. Of course, I advocate that we responsibly dismantle much of the coming useless artifacts, such as cities, roads, dams, and the like. They will be relics of a bygone era when the Fifth Epoch arrives.

    Best,

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    Hi:

    Uncle Ed’s death and my subsequent work on his bio kind of waylaid my big picture posts, which I will soon resume. I plan to write the Wikipedia article on Noam and Ed’s Political Economy of Human Rights books, and I will be plunking along on my bio project for Ed for months and maybe even years. But the next three months and change will be crazily busy for me, so my posting will be relatively sparse.

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    Hi:

    Before I begin my busy week, the recent Mayan discoveries are another piece of evidence of what happened in the New World long before Europe invaded. Those Mayans did not have draft animals or metallurgy of significance, yet created a prodigious civilization before it collapsed. The Third Epoch is full of collapsed civilizations, as they were never sustainable.

    I will write soon on New World societies, about the Calusa, Amazonian societies, and the like. There is a vast amount to still discover and study, and those recent Mayan discoveries are the tip of the iceberg.

    In general, New World civilizations were thousands of years “behind” the Old World’s, for a few reasons. However, they were behaviorally modern humans, like the rest of humanity, and they had feats of engineering, mathematics, writing, and the like, independently developed as they reached their Third Epoch.

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    Hi:

    Well, that was a timely update to my S&L Scandal essay, which I posted about a few days previously. I had been planning to write it since the cryptocurrency mania hit the stock markets in December 2017. The past week might or might not be the beginning of the end of this latest bubble, but I think that it jolted people out of the mania. It went from mania to panic in less than a month. Entire funds that were pure speculation, and relied on central bank money printing, probably became extinct yesterday, with its “investors” completely wiped out, like hitting double zero in roulette. We’ll find out more today.

    And it is definitely the end of the cryptocurrency mania that we just saw. While there were a few “shoeshine boy” moments, the one I will take with me to my grave is when Richard Sherman said that his grandmother called him to buy Bitcoin.

    One thing that blows me away is that when the 1929 crash happened, it took 70 years before a similar episode played out again. Those kinds of lessons used to last a lifetime, but in these Tweeting days of collapsing attention spans, and the Federal Reserve and friends resolutely printing money like madmen, we are getting speculative bubbles once a decade now. It is insane (AKA – doing the same thing over and over, and expecting a different outcome each time), and likely means that the end is near for the financial system as we know it. On one hand, cryptocurrencies have a certain logic and appeal, as a distributed ledger that could be an alternative to our incredibly corrupt banking system (one of the global cartels), but it spiraled into another mania, which complemented the biggest stock bubble of all time. There is debate whether the central banks, led by the Fed, will be allowed to do it again. I am astounded that they were allowed to do it this time, when their easy money policies caused the last two bubbles.

    On many fronts, humanity stares into the abyss today, and I regard these serial manias as merely a symptom.

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    Hi:

    Before I get back to the big picture posts, Serg’s mention of the recent Mayan discoveries brought up something that I have wanted to post about for some time. Last year I read The Monkey’s Voyage, which deals with how plants and animals have traveled around Earth’s surface. My big essay is full of the migrations of animals, and I write plenty on human migrations. Speciation is thought to result from geographic isolation and adaptation. Human races are a result of isolation and adaptation. I read something yesterday on a dark-skinned, blue-eyed corpse called Cheddar Man, which is not much of a surprise. The European pigment changes are likely related, and there are hypotheses of sexual selection, Neolithic migrations, and the like for why I am blond-haired (well, increasingly gray today ) and blue-eyed (well, more like blue-gray), and the bloody migration that led to my being born in Seattle is well-documented.

    The four pristine civilizations influenced all that followed, just as the pristine industrial revolution that began in England influenced all others. As anthropologists make digs and study the evidence, with increasingly sophisticated tools and techniques and burgeoning hypotheses, the tell-tale influence of neighbors can be discerned. Some connections are increasingly clear, while others are more speculative.

    For the past generation, I have read works that argue for contacts with the Western Hemisphere in the past few thousand years. Some are unequivocal, such as stranded Japanese fisherman blowing ashore on the Pacific coast of the Americas, with some arguing that it has been happening for several thousand years. While there is little evidence of migrations to the New World after the original “settlers,” there is plenty of evidence of sporadic contact, and there is debate over how influential those contacts may have been. But today, I am thinking of more local contacts. There is evidence of pre-Columbian towns in the Amazon, and there is a school of thought that their formation was influenced by the upland civilizations along the Andes. That is not much of a stretch.

    While there is debate whether domestication was an independent event in the Eastern Woodlands of North America, there is no debate that maize, domesticated in Mesoamerica, became their staple, particularly during the Mississippian period. How independent of Mesoamerican civilization was Cahokia, when they based their economy on maize? On the Gulf Coast of Florida lived the Calusa, which was a hunter-gatherer culture that was stratified, and they dominated southern Florida. That is highly unusual for hunter-gatherers, and has to be partly due to their rich food supply from the various wetlands and coastal environments that allowed them to be relatively sedentary. But how influential were the Eastern Woodlands cultures, based on farming, to the Calusa? I think it very likely that the influence was marked, and it is a subject that I will follow with interest. During China’s Warring States period, the influence of Fertile Crescent civilizations is evident, and Sumer definitely influenced the Egyptian and Indus civilizations.

    The bottom line is that people were not that isolated, particularly on the geological timescale. The Bantu Expansion happened thousands of years after the Neolithic Expansion, which on the scale of a human life is a long time, but is the evolutionary blink of an eye.

    In the Fifth Epoch, geographic isolation will vanish, and along with it, race, as well as nations. There are not going to be quasi-Second Epoch hunter-gatherers in the Kalahari, Third Epoch peasants, and Fourth Epoch city dwellers in industrialized nations, but free energy and its attendant technologies will bring humanity together like never before. Nobody is going to be isolated unless they really want to be, but nobody is going to turn down the Fifth Epoch’s perks, as everybody on Earth becomes richer than Bill Gates.

    Best,

    Wade
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    I link to NYT rarely on science topics. An exception today The Rise of China and the Fall of the ‘Free Trade’ Myth

    In summary USA rose on protectionism of its industries advocated by Alexandar Hamilton (and the absence of copyrights (until 1890 is seems) which charles dickens bitterly complained about, and absence of patents for foreign authors/inventors) , Germany learned from USA, with Friedrich List being an important figure, Japan learned from Germany, followed by South Korea, Taiwan and now China.

    While the article focuses on protectionism, the important role of state in the economy, it almost completely misses the role of education and the spread of knowledge in the process of industrialization.
    Every country educated its peoples first before they industrialized. This is true of starting from USA, Netherlands, the British were a little behind given they industrialized first, I guess it has to be some effect of them being too busy enslaving the world. Education a historical look.

    Nothing new for this audience. But the historical context seemed worth sharing.


    In fun stuff The Ancient Origins of Neural Substrates for Land Walking and a related 5 min video

    In nature first there is a precursor, then the doing part whether it is eyes or walking by Skate fish. Finally there is an understanding part.
    The same was true of the use of tools, first precursor (hands), then use tools, then understand and make them. Finally a new era arrives. It is hard for me to be convinced about the existence of FE, but the effects of FE are clear to me: a new epoch. It is impossible for us to imagine and envision the future. Brian O' Leary seemed convinced about FE so I give him and Wade the benefit of doubt.

    Also hearing Richard Heinberg a bit, he is very good at understanding and explaining the importance of energy. The solution of cultural change that he proposes won't work. Its truly utopia or oblivion.

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    Thanks Krishna:

    Free trade has probably never existed, just as a true democracy has never existed, a free press, an objective history, a purely pursued scientific method, etc. These are all ideals that have never been seen in the real world.

    I rarely watch anything on YouTube, but that was informative (and nice and short ) on walking.

    I doubt that you can have an illiterate industrialized society. Literacy is a big help, exercising that brain.

    On Heinberg, he preaches austerity as a “solution,” and discovering his feigned interest in free energy was a step in my growing awareness of the innumerable obstacles that free energy faces.

    As I have stated before, my pupils at least have to get to the stage where free energy is a least possible. There is plenty of room in today’s physics for it. And yes, portraying its epochal significance might be the most important part of my work. You will probably have to have it delivered to your home before you truly “believe,” and that is OK and normal. When a pal saw a UFO light up on request, he was never again the same. He walked around in a daze for a week. I have seen what experience can do to people. My first ten seconds of the first Silva “case” that I ever saw permanently ruined me as an aspiring mainstream scientist, although it took a few years for that to manifest. It took Brian nearly a decade to finally leave the Establishment after his mystical awakening.

    Brian had that astronaut cachet, which he used to get his foot in the doors, or at least try. He was my favorite voice in the free energy milieu, and it was an honor to carry his spears. His life was shortened because he snooped into the fringes, and that made him an honorary member of the free energy clobbered club.

    For me, what Brian brought to the milieu was his honest scientific stance and a willingness to do the work. What a great man. When I told Brian of my friend’s little show, Brian was not surprised in the least and was more interested in my CIA contract agent relative. I was eager to introduce Brian to Heinberg and Uncle Ed, but found no takers. When I worked with the astronaut corps on Brian’s NASA bio, they pointedly did not want to work with Brian, but with me instead. It was really something to front for Brian like that, and see that kind of treatment of him. Damn.

    But as far as Brian’s making free energy credible, in my circles, not really. He was a well-meaning outsider who used his reputation to try to make it at least thinkable, and what a rough ride that was for him. He never played close to the level where he was going to get an underground show like my friend did, but he knew enough about the milieu to know how the deadly land lied. The spook world is all too real, and the GCs’ toys beggar the imagination. My friend’s eyes were bugging out of his head, and during the show, he told those people, “You don’t play in my galaxy.”

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi:

    Back to the big picture posts. The Third Epoch marked radical shifts in the human journey. Plant and animal domestication, sedentism, professions, slavery, civilization, metallurgy, literacy, mass warfare, city-states, nation-states, empires, and other features of the human journey appeared in the Third Epoch. The Fertile Crescent and Mediterranean had the most Third Epoch influence on the human journey, and rising and falling civilizations marked those times.

    There is plenty of scholarly attention and debate on why England initiated the Fourth Epoch. How did it pass that energy threshold? In a word: coal. England was not the first to use coal. The Chinese were large users of coal long ago, and the Romans used it (particularly in England). But deforested England, in the midst of its imperial and commercial ascent, turned to coal in desperation, and a new Epoch was born.

    In ways, the Fourth Epoch was the most radical change yet, but there were plenty of Third Epoch features that survived into the Fourth, such as farming, cities, elites, mass warfare, and the like, although they all changed dramatically in the Fourth Epoch. But chattel slavery ended as a hallowed institution, peasants gradually disappeared, the demographic transition accompanied industrialization, and science fitfully rose. A new kind of elite appeared: capitalists, along with their ideological enablers, the court historians of the new Epoch. Materialism describes both the rise of greed as a virtue, as well as the idea that the physical universe is all, and consciousness is relegated to a byproduct of brain activity, which has largely supplanted the Third Epoch’s organized religions. Women’s status rose once again with industrialization, after they became the broodmares of agrarian societies. The Fourth Epoch is only a few centuries old, and most of humanity still lives in preindustrial nations, so the Third Epoch is still very much with us. There are no pure Second Epoch peoples left on Earth, practicing the hunter-gatherer lifestyle free from Third and Fourth Epoch influence.

    The rise of England was part of the rise of Europe in general, as it began conquering humanity when it learned to sail the oceans. Science began its rise as Europe rose, spurred by the reintroduction of ancient Greek teachings. Technological advance, riding atop a new energy wave, interacted with scientific findings, and the rise of science and industry was a very swift affair. My grandfather lived in a sod hut, his son helped put men on the Moon, and his son devoted his life to initiating the next Epoch. Nothing in the human journey compares to the radical changes of the past few centuries.

    As England led the conquest and rape of humanity as it pushed its rivals aside, its most successful colonies revolted, aided by England’s chief rival, and that new nation quickly conquered and raped a rich continent, as a prelude to raping humanity and Earth on an epic scale, while calling it “progress” and other euphemisms. It continues to this day, both directly and through proxies. Humanity’s “progress” today threatens the planet, and humanity might inflict the greatest extinction of all on Earth’s denizens, which might take humanity with it.

    The USA was able to industrialize by raping Earth’s richest unplundered continent, and in the midst of its expansion, oil became Earth’s most lucrative commodity, which it remains to this day, and scientists and inventors learned to harness electricity. Those heady days led to a new class of capitalist called robber barons, and the man who conquered the nascent oil industry became Earth’s richest man. He soon became a racketeering “philanthropist,” helping establish a pattern of phony billionaire “philanthropy” that lasts to this day. Today, the USA invades nations and slaughters millions in the name of “humanitarianism,” which sends Orwell spinning in his grave, as controlling what the public thinks became a science. Uncle Ed coined a new term to describe the unprecedented levels of deceit that accompanied the USA’s rise to global dominance.

    The USA emerged from history’s greatest war (so far) with unprecedented global dominance, and it announced its ascendance by gratuitously incinerating two cities with nuclear weapons, and its planners helped insure American dominance with stratagems that would make Machiavelli blush. The rise of the national security state followed World War II, and among its architects were fixers for the Rockefellers and other elite interests, and when one American president was not enthusiastic enough on the imperial front, he was murdered in a hail of bullets, and the cover-up continues to this day. All American presidents since then have been dutiful puppets (with perhaps the partial exception of today’s president, who like JFK came to the office rich, and less easy to control), and they are completely out of the loop on the most important issues that humanity faces today (they are down the food chain a ways), the most important of which is that the energy source for the next Epoch was tapped long ago, but those technologies are sequestered from humanity in history’s greatest cover-up, which is related to the ET cover-up.

    Tesla was arguably the first to try tapping the zero-point field, the robber barons then pulled the rug on him, and keeping those technologies at bay has become a science among the global elite, who desire power above all else, even if their addiction makes Earth uninhabitable. However, their global cabal is fractured, most of their members would rather not destroy Earth’s surface, and one of their factions gave a close friend a demonstration of what sits in their Golden Hoard. Few on Earth have ever played at the levels where they would be candidates for such a show.

    That is the very brief story of how we got to where we are today. Next up is what can be next for us. My plan will take an unprecedented level of integrity and sentience, but I don’t need many for my plan to succeed.

    Best,

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    Hi:

    My entire big essay before my Fifth Epoch chapter was primarily intended to make that chapter comprehensible. That essay was intended to draw the big picture of how we got to where we are today, and what the technologies sequestered by the global elite make feasible.

    Nobody on Earth can credibly argue against the facts that humanity’s fossil fuel age has caused the carbon dioxide levels of Earth’s atmosphere to skyrocket, and that carbon dioxide absorbs infrared radiation, which will warm Earth’s atmosphere. There is simply no debate among any sane scientists on those two facts. The only debate out there, when not engaged in by hydrocarbon lobby shills who sold their souls, is that there may be regional variability and other variables, such as the Sun’s output and Earth’s orientation to the Sun, but I have not seen any credible discussions that put much credence in those variables, as far as arguing against the idea that Earth is warming up, and quickly. This is far from the first time this has happened (1, 2, 3) in the eon of complex life. The advent of free energy makes that entire issue vanish, and quickly. If we wanted to, we could bring the carbon dioxide levels back down to preindustrial levels, and all air pollution would also immediately cease. Those are simply side-effects of the introduction of free energy technology.

    All of humanity would have ready access to pure water. No more drawing down water tables to get the water, which is one of many of humanity’s unsustainable practices. My friend was also shown antigravity technology during his exotic technology show. Steven Greer got a modest antigravity (AKA electrogravity) show at an underground facility. With free energy and electrogravity technology (which needs a lot of energy to run), humanity would quickly become a spacefaring civilization, and the end of mining Earth would also quickly come to a halt. It just won’t make sense anymore. One asteroid could provide all of humanity’s metal needs for the next million years, never mind the rocky planets and moons in our solar system, or the Kuiper Belt. Mining Earth will quickly make about as much sense as playing Russian roulette.

    Another natural outcome will be the end of the idea that humanity needs to exploit Earth’s ecosystems to survive. That idea will quickly go the way of chattel slavery and other barbarities of the human journey.

    Just as human societies became more humane, and the human conscience developed over the Epochs, as the energy surplus increased and people could afford a conscience, the ideas of exploiting anybody, warfare, and the other evils that humanity has endlessly inflicted on each other will no longer make any sense. The dark pathers will lament the passing of their glory days, but for the rest of us, it will be a huge relief when fear and scarcity are no longer the background hum of our daily lives. In fact, that relief is currently hard to imagine, but that is normal.

    For those who are willing and able to understand, the above events are trivial outcomes of the advent of free energy and its attendant technologies. Somewhat crazily, the so-called environmentalists treat free energy like their worst nightmare. All that they can see is further raping the environment and bigger wars, and they have prophets such as Richard Heinberg preaching austerity, as they sit in rapt attention. Those reactions blow away free energy newcomers, but that has been the drill since at least the 1970s. Brian got a snootful of those crazy reactions during his years playing the Paul Revere of Free Energy, and the most memorable that I heard from Brian was Lester Brown’s reaction. What I eventually came to understand was that all of that fear and denial to the idea of free energy reflected their various addictions to scarcity. It took many years for me to finally figure that out. They are not going to begin to wake up until free energy is part of their daily lives, and that is OK. The sleeping will not awaken via talk. They never have and never will.

    But put aside all of that fear and denial for a moment, and what else becomes feasible, almost inevitable, with the introduction of free energy and related technologies? Poverty will quickly disappear, on a global basis, and never return. It will be seen like living in caves is today, or slavery, etc. All organized religions, to one degree or another, are means of social control, conditioned by scarcity, and all will quickly become obsolete. Even today, organized religions have lost their sway in the cities of industrial nations. They are a Third Epoch phenomenon that will vanish in the Fifth Epoch, as will the religion of the Fourth Epoch, materialism. The introduction of free energy and its related technologies will not only turn today’s physics textbooks into doorstops, but materialism is going to quickly be seen as just another seductive but false religion. The Fifth Epoch will certainly have spirituality, at a level never seen before on Earth, but it will have nothing to do with forming social cohesion to prevail in warfare, and the other ugly aspects of organized religion. It will be based on love, which is the energy of creation.

    Invasion, enslavement, and genocide will no longer be the operating principles of imperial states such as the USA. In fact, nations will no longer make any sense, being elite territorial constructs, and will go the way of the other barbarities of the human journey. Geographic isolation will end among all peoples, and even race will quickly disappear. In various Fifth Epoch glimpses that I have encountered over the years, all of humanity had golden skin. That may only be a century or two away, if we turn the corner instead of crashing and burning, and arthropods once again ascend to dominance.

    Cities as we know them will also stop making sense, and will cease to exist. All of humanity will live in true abundance for the first time ever, and the super-Epoch of scarcity will end. The obsession with economic exchange will also end. It just won’t make sense anymore. The nuclear family will also likely become just one option among several, and I expect that it will eventually disappear and be replaced with something infinitely more enlightened. Earth can quickly begin to resemble heaven on Earth, and nobody is going to need to be coerced. All will come willingly, once they place their irrational fears aside.

    And, of course, when everybody on Earth is richer than Bill Gates (just as the average American today lives a richer life than Earth’s richest human of three centuries ago), the very idea of elites will become obsolete. While the ideas in this post generally blow people’s minds, and they react in denial and fear all too often, as all that they can see is their carefully constructed survival niches in a world of scarcity and fear disappearing, the GCs know full well what I am describing. They were aware of these ramifications before I was born, which is why they keep those technologies under wraps, in history’s greatest cover-up, as they know that the Fifth Epoch means Game Over for them. They will lose their ill-gotten leverage over humanity and will no longer be able to play their games of power and control, which is a dark pather’s wet dream. They have my sympathy, but their dark games will destroy Earth, and I live here! Who put them in charge?

    With free energy and the related sequestered technologies, all of the above is feasible, almost inevitable. Without free energy, almost none of it is. That is my primary message. Reshuffling the deck of scarcity (or maintaining the disparity), which is what all political and social movements are about, is nothing more than rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic, getting their in-group better seats on the doomed ship (So they can enjoy the view? Sip some champagne for a few fleeting moments?).

    That is the big picture that I am attempting to help my readers see. If we can’t imagine it, we can’t pursue it. Getting there will be the hard part, but it is not going to be a challenge of technology, heroism, and the like, but a test of integrity and sentience. I don’t need many for my plan to work, but the hard part will be finding and training them. They are needles in haystacks.

    The next post will be on getting there, and what people need to do to help, and it all starts in the heart.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi:

    To come full circle on these big picture posts, what are we here for? I have seen many stories over the years, and here is one way to look at it. In short, I see two purposes for being in physical reality:
    • Grow consciousness;
    • Find and express love, in a dimension where it is far from evident.

    Physical reality is a tough, dense place to be, and growing our consciousness while here, and finding and expressing the love inside us, which is the essence of our being, is anything but easy. Love is the energy of creation, and everything is comprised of consciousness, according to my understanding. When I mention that manifesting free energy will be a test of integrity and sentience, I am getting down to the basics of what it is all about. The “funny” thing about that is that I did not arrive at my approach because of some mystical understanding, but because I saw what did not work and why, and my approach is designed to avoid the pitfalls. It was only much later, as I pondered my approach, that I realized that it aligned with those “what are we here for?” reasons. It only confirmed to me that my approach might have a chance.

    Next up will be some observations on what I think my approach will look like and what might work.

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    Hi Wade. From the link you included in Post #7334 :

    http://ahealedplanet.net/humanity.htm#water

    “4. Humanity’s water-use practices are currently unsustainable, and water tables are plunging worldwide, largely due to over-pumping for irrigation.  It is creating widespread environmental devastation, including soil salination.  With FE, intelligently and wisely implemented, environmentally harmless desalination plants could exist in the oceans, desalinating ocean water and pumping it to land.  The most enlightened first use is filling back up the depleted water tables.  The two biggest killers of children worldwide today are polluted water and air.  Although the World Bank and IMF are behind privatizing the world’s water supplies, even in the USA, which has led to disease outbreaks already among the poor, desalinated ocean water would also make universally free and pure water available to all humans.  Because societies could easily completely recycle all materials used, recycling water used in all societies would be effortlessly accomplished, so even desalinating ocean water would probably not be practiced on a large scale for long.”


    Sorry for the length below. Parts of this are a vent for catharsis, so I'm sure say little new to folk here.
     
    The above quote makes sense, as my humble non-scientist mind sees it.  Stop the plundering, then use FE to gradually wean ourselves off mining the earth’s resources so we can recycle self-sufficiently.  Equipping ourselves to interact with the earth as caregivers and guardians, rather than abusers.   It will open us up spiritually in ways I think many of us have yet to fully conceive.
     
    I’ve been putting together a future earth post recently, around the theme of water.  Found myself exploring images of the most beautiful marine life, and Jellyfish.  As I looked up the process of bioluminescence (the glow of light some jellyfish emit that resembles an electric bulb), I read that it was created by a reaction involving luciferins and oxygen.  Luciferin being, apparently, a generic term for the light-emitting compound found in organisms that generate bioluminescence.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luciferin


     
    Then I came across this 2018 article titled Climate Change Is Suffocating Large Parts of the Ocean :
     
    https://news.nationalgeographic.com/...n-zones-ocean/
     
    It refers to a new study which claims warming has reduced oxygen levels in large swaths of the deep ocean, causing a threat to marine life around the world.  Apparently this study examined all major research on ocean oxygen loss, and concluded that the loss is emptying vast regions of the ocean, changing how creatures live and eat, threatening to shrink fish populations and increasing the likelihood of overfishing. The article states : “Like warming seas and ocean acidification, oxygen loss is one of the most important byproducts of climate change, but one that few people understand.”
     
    Part of the problem being that what we don’t see in our immediate environment, we don’t deem an immediate threat.  Only a small minority of the world’s humans explore the ocean depths armed with the ability to note significant change; either due to scientific qualifications, or simply because their lives as fisherman or seafarers include an awareness of that realm. 

    One of the advantages that can come with a new, FE-based model of living, is people worldwide having more time and tools to travel around the world, to visit and learn about the variety of earth's life; its beauty and the role it plays in the wider ecosystem and even the cosmos.
     
    According to the above article : “...low-oxygen zones occur naturally, but have grown by more than 4.5 million square kilometers — an area roughly as large as the entire European Union—just since the mid-20th century. In part that's because of rising temperatures.  Warm water simply carries less oxygen. It also stokes the metabolism of both microbes and larger creatures, causing them to use more of whatever oxygen there is. Finally, as climate change warms the ocean from the surface down, making the surface layer more buoyant—warm water is lighter than cold water—it makes it harder for fresh oxygen from the air to mix down into the deep layers where the oxygen-poor zones are located.  Today, those low-oxygen zones are expanding toward the surface by as much as a meter a year.”
     
    My understanding is that vast amounts of earth’s oxygen is produced by ocean phytoplankton and algal plankton, though scientists debate just how much; some say around a third comes from the ocean, others say as much as seventy per cent (especially when considering the ongoing destruction of the world’s rainforests, reducing land production.)
     
    In addition to oxygen loss, I’ve seen pieces circulating recently on social media addressing the mountains of plastic rubbish that end up in the oceans which end up killing the sea creatures who eat the plastic or get caught in it.  Less visible items are also a problem, like plastic micro-beads (used in shower gels and toothpastes as an exfoliant.)  Then there’s the harmful chemicals in cosmetic products and sun creams that wash off in the ocean, toxic to coral reefs and other sea life :
     
    https://www.theguardian.com/environm...rch-oxybenzone
     
    That’s before you get to the massive oil spills and chemical dispersant used in the ‘clean ups.’  Or the fact that for large companies dumping waste in the oceans, it can be cheaper to pay the fines for doing it (if they're even caught) than it is to pay to dispose of the waste differently.
     
    It’s not hard to see how clean, abundant energy access can mean more localised production of items across the board, from food to clothes, to non-chemical skin care, to tools and hardware, and so forth, so that this waste isn't even produced or doesn’t end up in the oceans.  A lot of what’s deemed disposable could be recycled at local plants or even at home. 

    Currently a lot of people, myself included, feel reassured by using recycling services, but we still need clean energy to power them. And I’ve seen numerous pieces of journalism showing how, even in a developed region like the UK, the goods to be recycled end up in foreign landfill sites as far away as China.  What’s the excuse?  That it’s cheaper to ship abroad than to recycle?  With clean, abundant energy that excuse goes away.

    Naturally, if we're truly being conscious, we have to reduce our use of the products, rather than rely on local and national government to do the right thing. Whilst I'm aware that some of this usage is just consumer addiction, curable by addressing the mind or spirit, clean energy use applied properly can mean we still have creative freedom and choices that are practical / useful, without doing damage.
     
    We know that polluting the oceans, and polluting the atmosphere which can effect ocean content and temperature, doesn’t just damage marine life, it logically effects the entire planetary ecosystem. 

    Wade, you noted in post #7334 : “that humanity’s fossil fuel age has caused the carbon dioxide levels of Earth’s atmosphere to skyrocket, and that carbon dioxide absorbs infrared radiation, which will warm Earth’s atmosphere...”  ...[...]...  “The only debate out there, when not engaged in by hydrocarbon lobby shills who sold their souls, is that there may be regional variability and other variables, such as the Sun’s output and Earth’s orientation to the Sun, but I have not seen any credible discussions that put much credence in those variables, as far as arguing against the idea that Earth is warming up, and quickly.”
     
    I can't help but wonder if at least some of the institutional gate-keepers of climate science might avoid funding, or promoting the findings of, studies that linked serious climate change to the sun's activity. We know that for various parties there's money to be made from taxing carbon footprints, and gains to be made by suppressing developing nations under the banner of environmental protection. A populace addicted to energy consumption, and told to feel guilty for it, can also be more easily confused and therefore easier to manipulate. But with truly clean and abundant energy, those dilemmas can be resolved.

    That said, whilst there may be debate around whether changes within the earth itself or the solar system at large (which are possibly connected) are contributing to climate change along with human abuse, whatever the cause or combined causes it should be obvious to all of us that pollution and destruction of ecosystems can and does lead to collapse.  And whether clean, abundant energy solutions can assist us in healing and rebalancing the ecosystems, or whether the ecosystems change beyond our control and we use FE to ensure our own survival on earth (and travel beyond), either way we need a new energy model. 

    Re : the ocean oxygen levels, it got me thinking about how we could use FE for oxygen production.  Naturally step one is to stop clogging the oceans, stop destroying the rainforests, and to clean up the pollution suffocating the ecosystems, helping them to restore balance themselves.  We don’t want a system whereby earth’s natural land and seascapes are unnecessarily hooked up to a permanent life-support of man-made machinery.  But if we need to create habitable zones either here or off-world, that kind of artificial system will simply be a fact of life.

    It was interesting researching oxygen production. 

    For example :  
      
    “MOXIE (Mars OXygen In situ resource utilization Experiment) is an exploration technology experiment that will produce a small amount of pure oxygen from Martian atmospheric carbon dioxide (CO2) in a process called solid oxide electrolysis”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_O...SRU_Experiment
     
    I read elsewhere that Oxygen is one of the most abundant chemical elements on Earth; that around one-half of the earth's crust is made up of chemical compounds containing oxygen, and a fifth of our atmosphere is oxygen gas.  The piece claimed that the most common commercial method for producing oxygen is the separation of air using either a cryogenic distillation process or a vacuum swing adsorption process.  It also described how electrolysis produces very pure hydrogen and oxygen, but uses a large amount of electrical energy and is therefore “not economical for large-volume production.”
     
    The last bit caught my eye, as obviously with clean, abundant energy that problem is reduced.  Though it still makes sense to me to choose the most efficient method, depending on context, which wouldn’t necessarily require the most energy, but as a short term measure might.  I’m not well-versed enough to know. 

    I certainly enjoy picturing the FE powered ships or silent drones that can help facilitate new plankton farms in the ocean, and monitor the waters' health. But for terraforming other planets I assume we'd need a larger scale technology.

    It's obviously debatable whether space agencies would admit to a simple, but highly effective clean energy technology - or 'permit' certain public icons of invention, whose companies reportedly rely on government subsidies, to discuss options openly - due to the political implications of simple but efficient tech threatening the status quo. The more complicated the tech – the more money for industry. The more effective a simple tech – the greater the threat to elite economic factions as people catch on and reach for the tools that can facilitate freedom from economic and political slavery.

    If certain parties were using, for example, simple tech that was relatively cheap to manufacture, to do an any number of off-world jobs, but meanwhile claiming their tech actually cost a fortune and had to be complicated, they could funnel surplus funds elsewhere without observers asking questions.

    All the more reason to bring about clean energy publicly in order to rationalise the debate. The more clean energy tech is available, the less people are dependent on jobs for survival, and the less pressure would exist within ourselves to censor rational choices.

    I know that's obvious to people here, but I don't get tired of saying it.

    I'm also aware some folks reach a dead-end mentally and emotionally with this topic. Believing that free energy isn't the answer, because even with it we'd still have a deeply imbalanced economic system and staunch defenders of it who are too entrenched to change. But I still feel like visualising FE applications - and their capacity help to facilitate peace, equality, and environmental healing – is a necessary proactive step in shifting the system by changing from outside of it. By thinking outside of it.

    Wishing good health and good things to all here
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    Thanks Melinda:

    You can tell where James Cameron got some of his ideas for Avatar from. The sequel(s) is going to have underwater scenes, and I expect that we will see creatures that resemble those jellyfish. Jellyfish are among Earth’s oldest animals.

    Yes indeed, human spirituality, consciousness, and the like will flower in ways currently hard to imagine when the hum of fear and scarcity is removed from our daily lives.

    Yes, the oceans are being killed off by humanity, in numerous ways, from overfishing to habitat destruction to anoxia to acidification to plastic and chemical pollution, etc. We use the ocean as one big toilet and garbage dump.

    There is a relationship between climate change and solar activity, such as the Little Ice Age, so it has been studied (the Sun is about 25% brighter than it was a couple billion years ago, as it gradually brightens, which will put an end to Earth one day), but solar variation pales when compared to the skyrocketing carbon dioxide levels that humanity is solely responsible for. It is our responsibility to control our effects, not get all worked up about what the Sun is doing. The Sun’s output is exceedingly stable. Yes, a scientifically illiterate public is easily manipulated, which is why at least some scientific literacy is a choir requirement, to stay out of rabbit holes that go nowhere.

    In my forum writings, perhaps the single most contentious issue has been global warming. You can see it on this thread an elsewhere, where scientifically illiterate people groove to my work until they get their global warming ox gored, and then they run away or attack. The basics are easy to understand. There is no debate at all among anybody with the slightest scientific literacy that carbon dioxide traps infrared radiation and warms the atmosphere. None. There is also no credible dispute that humanity’s industrial era has caused carbon dioxide levels to skyrocket. None. We can do something about our behavior. We can’t do much about the Sun.

    As Uncle Noam has said, we are all the most responsible for the predictable consequences of our actions, not somebody else’s. It is an Ethics 101 concept, but for people playing the victim, the idea is avoided like the plague. That is also a key mystical understanding. When we pass over, we are accountable for our actions, not somebody else’s. That is the whole point of being here.

    The global warming “debate” today is almost completely fraudulent, led by “scientists” who sold their souls to the hydrocarbon lobby, and scientifically illiterate “free thinkers” lap it up, as it seemingly absolves us of responsibility for our actions. It is really bizarre that so-called “free thinkers” march to the tune of the hydrocarbon lobby, thinking that they are somehow exercising their critical thinking faculties, even being noble about it. There is a world of difference between describing problems and pursuing solutions.

    Krishna recently mentioned how Richard Heinberg is good at describing the role of energy in our world. I agree, and I give him credit for an exercise that I recommend. He is a very articulate spokesman for Peak Oil, which has already been reached, globally. However, his “solution” is to depopulate Earth by 90% or so, and he considered free energy just long enough to semi-ridicule it. So, he is great at describing the problems, but is terrible and even arguably fraudulent in proposing solutions. This is a very common issue. Yes, the global warming issue has become a huge political football, but that does not mean that the problem is illusory. Creating the problem and then cashing in on the “solution” is standard racketeering practice.

    The Global Controllers will also offer “solutions” that ensure that they stay dominant while still hiding in the shadows. I can almost live with their truck-sized fusion “solution,” as they sell it for $1 billion a pop. But it is just one more fraudulent “solution.”

    With free energy, these problems are laughably easy to remedy, and whatever the Sun does will not matter to human welfare. That is one of the surreal aspects of my journey. The solution to it all is studiously ignored by all sides. Brian O was beside himself over that.

    Nice post, Melinda.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi:

    One last comment on Melinda’s post. There are a million ways that people can fail or refuse to understand what the Fifth Epoch means. People who argue that free energy just means more of the same, or that we would just have bigger wars and rape the planet to oblivion with it, are projecting fear and scarcity onto a situation of abundance. They are either:

    Those people will not begin to understand until they can experience what the Fifth Epoch means, and that is OK and normal, and they are not my target audience. Looking for those needles in haystacks

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    Hi:

    In returning full circle on the big picture, humans are animals with a long evolutionary history, as well as a long cultural history, as we arose to dominate the planet in a way that no other animal ever did. Some of that cultural history is from being social animals, and some is from our unprecedented intelligence and toolmaking ability, which has been used from the beginning to gain greater energy security. As humanity’s energy surplus increased, by exploiting new energy sources, human societies became more humane, because they could afford to be. Late Second Epoch men died violently about a third of the time, which was slightly better than half of male chimps dying violently. When females rose to prominence, in chimp societies or human, life became far more peaceful.

    I have sketched the evolution of human societies through its Epochs, and will do more so in my essay update, and there is no argument that today’s industrial societies are far less violent than they used to be, at least among each other. The West’s imperial behavior, inflicted on Second and Third Epoch societies, however, has been nothing short of genocidal, and it continues to this day.

    I learned the greatest lessons of my journey before I hit the books and performed the deep study over the past 30 years that has resulted in my work as it stands today. Humanity is an egocentric species that treats all outgroups terribly, as people look after the interests of their in-groups, which is how they survive.

    When I became Dennis’s partner, I literally had no idea what I was in for, and three years later, my life was shattered and I was radicalized. It was only years later, as my studies took me into many areas, as I traded notes with fellow travelers and the like, that I began to understand what had happened and why. Americans are history’s most brainwashed people, but it happens largely through the so-called free market. That is what Uncles Noam and Ed were instrumental in helping me see. The USA’s Founding Fathers were genocidal thieves, the California equivalent of Hitler was literally sainted recently, and my grammar school was named after him. We blithely discard the lessons learned as children, turn vices into virtues, and the like. Insanity in all directions. I could not make this up if I tried.

    Will humanity suddenly become enlightened when the Fifth Epoch arrives? No. However, the coming of the Fifth Epoch will be the most radical change of all, as humanity becomes a Type 1 civilization. Many aspects of our societies are based on fear and scarcity, and are baked so deeply that they are unchallenged assumptions of all of our dominant ideologies, even invisible to most who embrace them. Abundance will end all of that, and quickly. I have a higher opinion of humanity than the Heinbergs and environmentalists do, who can only see more raping of the planet and each other if we had the energy to live in abundance. Instead, it can be the Golden Age of golden ages, and that energy won’t run out anytime soon.

    But the masses are not going to help, as they live in fear and denial, the elites are not going to, either, as they see the end of their world, too, although some so-called White Hats cheer from the shadows, and the so-called “smart” are in ways the most stuck of all. Everybody who gets involved in the free energy field and begins to understand the lay of the land is dismayed, shocked, disgusted, and the like, if they survive the experience. But for those still active and productive, they had to relinquish all judgment of the situation and accept it. It does not mean that we gave up, but it meant that the reality of our world sobered us up. I strongly doubt that we can usher in the Fifth Epoch by dragging around the baggage of the previous Epochs. It has to be let go before we can progress, and without significant exception, all of those failed approaches to free energy suffered from that baggage-dragging, and it eventually led me to an approach that has never been tried before.

    Next up will be what such an effort could look like.

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    Hi:

    I don’t regard Michael Road’s account of his visits to two future Earths, both heavenly and hellish, to be fiction. I know and know of accomplished psychonauts who have made similar visits. But most of my visions for the Fifth Epoch were developed before Roads published his account. If I try to recall my state of mind back then, the most significant aspect of the Fifth Epoch that I thought of during my first stint with Dennis, especially after I became his partner in early 1987, was the end of scarcity. But we were going the businessman’s route, and after my first stint with Dennis, I had strong doubts about such an approach’s viability, and after my second stint, I was certain that it did not have a prayer. Dennis is the Indiana Jones of the free energy field, but one man with a whip and fedora can’t save humanity from itself.

    I was done with the capitalist approach in 1997, but was soon carrying Brian’s spears after I finished the 2002 version of my site, and we tried the charity route, which was also a disaster. NEM was the last mass movement effort that I will ever be a part of. Mass movements simply won’t work, not for manifesting the biggest event in the human journey. Dennis and Brian gave it the college try and then some, but the obstacles were too great, and the ones from within the movements proved the most damaging, even as they survived murder attempts from the organized suppression. Dennis should be dead dozens of times over from his adventures, while Brian’s life was shortened due to his poking his nose into the fringes, but his most dismaying experience was being attacked from the inside and kicked out of the organization that he founded, once again. When Brian moved to South America after Mallove’s murder, I could not blame him. Dennis kept it up until he was legally banned from the energy industry in his home nation, soon after David Rockefeller called him at home.

    Dennis called me recently for help in his latest venture, and he will keep swinging to the grave. Dennis is scientifically illiterate, and does not understand the Epochal significance of free energy himself. If he does not understand, how many among the laity really will? Not many. That is one of many reasons why I know that I seek needles in haystacks. There are not many walking on Earth today who can help with what I am attempting. I long ago released any judgment of the situation; those are just the numbers. But free energy newcomers almost invariably deny that truth and think that I am wrong, as they rush out to tell their social circles the “good news,” and the best of them return to me, chastened, with tales of their ostracism and other traumas, from proselytizing to their social circles. Relationships and careers have ended because of that approach. As they work their naďve ideas out of their systems, they can become ready to learn. Everybody that I respect in the field began their journeys naďve to the realities that they would encounter. Naďveté is no crime, and we all lost ours honestly.

    When my monster of a midlife crisis finally passed by early 2007, I began the study that resulted in my big essay, and I also began thinking about what my related effort was going to look like. I really did not begin thinking in truly Epochal terms until about 2010, when I read a book published by an oil company, of all things. It was then that the Epochal framework of my work really took shape, and the Epochal nature of the energy issue only became starkly evident as I studied for writing my big essay. Some of it did not truly became clear until I wrote the essay. I was expecting that new insights would accompany the writing of that essay, and it happened like I thought it would. My upcoming essay update will drive that Epochal framework home even more clearly.

    If I think back to influences on my thinking, I would say that Seth’s statement that the means become the ends stayed with me, from when I first read those words as a teenager. I did my best to live by it, through my crazy rides, and I think that that is partly why I survived my adventures with my sanity intact.

    It was only after seeing what paths to free energy invariably ended in failure, often life-wrecking or life-ending failure, that I slowly came to my approach. In the end, I decided that any attempts to manifest the Fifth Epoch had to be aligned with the Fifth Epoch as much as possible. Seth’s advice was not just something nice to say, but might be the only way to get there. It is the only approach that I am interested in anymore, and the coming posts will deal with what it has been like so far, and what I hope to see in the future.

    Best,

    Wade
    Last edited by Wade Frazier; 16th February 2018 at 14:15.
    My big essay, published in 2014, is here.

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