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    "technically you are not ‘travelling’ in the traditional sense" Exactly. As, neither is information sent. It is shared. It does not travel. It bi-locates. Or holographs, verb form.

    All those 'quantum' arguments and definitions are unnecessary complications.

    I've had the "twin" experience with close friends on a few occasions, so that deletes the genetic connection.

    I think it's partly a willingness to share space/thought/experience with someone, related or not. Some people are safe to have no boundaries with, most are not.
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    Quote Posted by mariposafe (here)
    Thanks for the looong post Melinda ! It's a shame that Brian Cox, who is otherwise so forward thinking, is trapped in the idea that Quantum Entanglement is a question of entity A transfering information to entity B. The way I visualize this is that both apparent entities, A & B are manifestations of the same thing, and that their apparent separation is merely illusory, a byproduct of our own limited perspective.
    Ah, sorry. It probably was too long. Just my way of trying to figure things out for myself. But this probably isn’t the place for such a long text for people to wade through, especially when I haven’t figured much out really. I thought you and CdnSirian summed things up very succinctly, which is reassuring to my busy little mind (that all too often overcomplicates things.) Thank you.

    CdnSirian: “I think it's partly a willingness to share space/thought/experience with someone, related or not. Some people are safe to have no boundaries with, most are not.”

    That’s always seemed to me to be a key aspect. One I like to picture being less troublesome to us in a kinder, more generous environment

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    Quote Posted by CdnSirian (here)
    "technically you are not ‘travelling’ in the traditional sense" Exactly. As, neither is information sent. It is shared. It does not travel. It bi-locates. Or holographs, verb form.
    EXACTLY !!!! You expressed what I was struggling with earlier. And I'm glad you mentioned holograms - I have a feeling that the same underlying principle comes into play there too.

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    Hi:

    I am on the road, and cannot make posts on the road, intentionally, so I am not tempted when I am working, but I have some time tonight (Wednesday, December 5), to write a response to all those posts while I have been gone. For many of those posts, my responses would have to be at least ten times the length that they will be, to begin to get into the issues in some depth, but briefly…

    Hi Hughe:

    The Bucky discussion would be a long one. His important work is indeed neglected and has been misappropriated. Adam T was his pupil, as was a pal:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#fuller

    Bucky’s comprehensive perspective was amazing for me to encounter, and really helped crystallize my paradigm. I did not know what I was a fledgling comprehensivist before encountering Bucky’s work. Bucky saw one of Adam’s FE devices not long before he died, he said that there would be hell to pay from Godzilla, and he was right. Adam’s FE and related activities have led to something like forty murder attempts so far. Like Dennis, he may not be safe for somebody like me to be around. Dennis and me, or Brian and me, were like putting a match to a stick of dynamite, and then Godzilla had to get active to address the threat. Having some working technology is only a small step down the FE path, and that is when it can start getting dangerous. The day that an FE inventor with the goods can give it to a worthy group that can protect it, that route might have a prayer, but I have never met an inventor with the goods willing to give it away, and I have never heard of that worthy group, although plenty pretend that they have the right stuff. Talk is cheap, and their actions betray their motivations, and so it is, in a world of scarcity. There are many pretenders and few contenders. That is why I call it a conundrum.

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm

    As far as the technological end of this project goes, there is certainly a place for technical people, doing what they do. Bucky domes are fine, but FE is always going to be the Big One. That worthy group would have a technological arm of it, but it would reside within a community of people who “got it.” When I was with Dennis, we had three inventors’ sanctuaries. All three were criminally violated, and almost every inventor betrayed us in the end, in their greed, fear, and naïveté. It was long tale of woe that I do not feel like getting into today, but I have written plenty about it on this thread. On the FE front, lone tinkerers truly do not stand a prayer, and the best that they can hope for is that they do not come up with anything and are left alone, or they come up with something and are made the offer they cannot refuse:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#make

    Fuller nearly killed himself before he began to figure it out. It is not an easy path, by any means, and yes, those around you simply will not even begin to understand, nor do they want to. That is typical, I am sorry to say, so you are in good company.

    Hi CDNSirian, Mariposafe and Melinda:

    Lots of good stuff being brought up in your posts. The issue of bringing up scientific findings to support mystical ideas is a thorny one. Ken Wilber, for instance, is staunchly against it, and he says that those mystical physicists were also against the idea, mainly because science is about theory and experimentation, and when science is used to validate mystical ideas, what happens when the theories die, as they always eventually do? Do the mystical ideas also fall by the wayside? The mystical physicists:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#mystical

    thought that the mystical stuff lied beyond the realm of today’s science, with physical reality a mere subset of Creation. Others think differently, and Adam has mentioned the entanglement idea being related to telepathy, for instance. Non-local phenomena such as telepathy may be largely non-physical in nature. For myself, I certainly discuss many mystical concepts, but it is really up to each of us to explore them. Maybe you will get a guiding voice in your head, maybe a UFO will light up on request for you, and maybe you will get an underground exotic technology show one day, but as much as I discuss such events, it really is up to people to pursue such experiences and have their own, then they will have something far more valuable than reading or listening to somebody like me; they will have the knowledge that comes from experience. That is the gold of living here on Earth.

    Hi Limor:

    I could go on for a long time regarding your great posts. I don’t know what the proportion is in Israel, but Sephardic Jews did not get the same genetic isolation and professional focus that the Ashkenazi Jews did, and I think we have just about beaten the “intelligence” issue to death on this thread. IQ tests are not meaningless, and it has been a great predictor for how many scientific Nobel Prizes that those Ashkenazi Jews have won, and other professional accolades. But Max was brilliant, too:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#hell

    and the lower astral plane is filled with “smart” beings. Yes, the genetic “inbreeding” of Ashkenazi Jews has led to certain genetic diseases unique to that population, and some of them correlate strongly to IQ. I hear you loud and clear on the ranting. On the USA, Britain, and Israel, the Brits and Yanks have inflicted far more evil on the world than the Israelis have, at least so far, no matter how “nice” their domestic societies might seem on the surface. One thing about the American and Brits is true, in that they inflicted great evil on the world to increase their standard of living, and they have provided a glimpse into what life can be like with relatively high standards of living. But they inflicted, and continue to inflict, great evil on the world to maintain that standard of living, which is all rooted in energy consumption, which is why they both led the invasion of Iraq. The USA and Britain have a lot to answer for, and my efforts can be partly seen as a way that my nation can begin to repay the awesome debt that it owes humanity and Earth. But, as is evident, I think, my nation is not exactly up to the task these days, and you can see that very few active participants on this thread are Americans.

    The USA and Israel are racist “settler” states, similar to South Africa and Australia, and when I see pictures of Gaza, it reminds me of the Warsaw Ghetto as it was being totally destroyed in that last desperate uprising. You live there so would know better, but what I have heard from people on the ground in Israel is that about a third of Israeli Jews consider the treatment of the Palestinians little different than how the USA cleared North America of those “subhuman” Indians to make way for American “settlers,” and they are not proud of it. About another third of the Jewish Israelis are proud of it, and kind of share Sheridan’s sentiment:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#sheridan

    The last third does not really care much at all one way or another, but when the dispossessed Arabs start fighting back and blowing themselves up, they wish the problem would go to someplace far away and stop interrupting their dinner. If a third of Israelis are not too proud of how they have treated the Palestinians, they are vastly more conscientious than Americans or Brits are. While the Indians were being dispossessed, their slaughters were cheered on in the American “frontier”:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#sandcreek

    Today, I am not sure if even one percent of Americans know or care that our great nation has inflicted premature deaths on several million people in Iraq and Afghanistan in the past generation, mostly children, reaching levels of carnage that would have impressed Hitler and Stalin:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post478002

    It is true that they are not dying next door like the Palestinians are, so Americans and Brits arguably have more excuse, but if a third of Jewish Israelis are ashamed of their nation’s treatment of the people that they dispossessed, they are a people of great conscience.

    Hi Ol’ Roy:

    Your observations are fine, buddy. I can respect the idea that I have writer’s block, but that is not really what is happening. There are a few things going on. One is that the upcoming essay will be my most ambitious, by far, so I have needed to do my homework, which has taken the past several years of my “spare” time, while working a highly demanding day job, juggling family life, etc. I have needed to do my homework (likely the equivalent of more than a hundred books, and some had pretty demanding material) so that I could try to do some justice to the subject matter, and I will be spending several months next year getting it written. On several levels, I needed the break (I’ll be getting some Bucket List chores done, too), but taking the time to do that essay justice was an overriding imperative. I admit that it is a daunting task, and I am approaching it carefully. Yes, what I have been putting on this thread since July, the life on Earth and human journey stuff, is kind of a preview of my upcoming essay and a trial run, almost an outline, if you will. Part of that is to get some of it out there in case I am taken out (stranger things have happened, but I am not very concerned about it these days) before I can get it done. Then it will be on to building that choir, with the essay as a kind of prerequisite. I have a very specific intention for my work, and we will see how it goes.

    Best,

    Wade

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    @Wade

    Why do I see over and over victims of Stockholm syndrome from educated, intelligent people, i.e. professionals, engineers, and scientists? I put an article on a Korean forum few days ago after spending almost 10 hours to write. The whole point was "Hey guys, here is alternative theories for the solutions. Would you look into them in open mind?"

    The reaction was immediate attack or cynical. The sentences were polite but the meaning was "How dare you suspect or even attack established laws of physics?" Maybe they are so blinded that the world looks Okay to them. Or they lost natural instinct to how to feel and react for survival in nature due to the heavy mind control.

    I feel they are more stupid than children on the video. Those chimps are smarter than the kids. What does it mean!?
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    Hi:

    Back to the rise of Europe. History and science are always changing. That does not mean that the past necessarily changed, or today’s reality did, but that our view of it did, or at least the views of the specialists who study history and physical phenomena. Science and technology also impact history when new ways of studying the past and present become available, such as more sophisticated radioactive dating or isotopic analysis. Many ingenious ways of investigation have been developed, and new ones are continually being invented. This happens all the time, and new facts arising can alter the historical view. Of course, there is no such thing as an objective history. Objectivity is the historian’s ideal; it is not attainable, although the goal seems worthy. However, people such as Howard Zinn even questioned that ideal:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lies.htm#objectivity

    I have continually seen efforts that are intended to revise the view of the past or of physical phenomena. Sometimes they are called myth-debunking exercises or grand new theories, but I have often found efforts like that to be far from as objective as they wished, but the author was grinding an ax, often under an academic or scientific veneer. That said, there are numerous myths in popular circles, and my site takes on plenty of them, and I have an agenda, which is to help puncture all the self-serving, scarcity-based ideologies that we have been fed:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

    so that we can gain a more unfettered view of the world and where we can go, like to a world of abundance, leaving scarcity behind, like we did slavery and the oppression of women. I remember a South African black activist who said that some of the most powerful weapons that a slave master uses are the minds of the slaves themselves. Aldous Huxley talked about people being conditioned to love their servitude:

    http://outpostfive.wordpress.com/201...-my-servitude/

    and from what I have seen, it has largely already happened, and one of its many manifestations is the FE conundrum, especially the Level 1s:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level1

    I am wary of “myth-debunking” efforts, as well as all things mainstream. To try to get to the bottom of any of it usually means a lot of work, going deep. On the historian side, it often means going to primary documents, and that is a lot of work. I have done it, but more often I read accounts from all sides of the issue, go deep when I can, even go get first-hand experience if I can (not always sought out, but the experience was more of the seat-of-the-pants variety):

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/ufo.htm

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#my

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/simon.htm#dolphins

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/veggie.htm

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#experience

    and then make my own determinations, which are often tentative, because certainty is almost never achieved, and probably can’t be, not where the certainty is certainly accurate.

    All that said, in recent years, some historians have been saying that Europe’s Dark Ages were not so dark, that the medieval period was not as much of a period of collapse as is popularly supposed. I think that is all relative, and I am wary of the recent revisionism on that topic. Definitely, the influence of the vanished Roman civilization dominated Europe, and is still highly influential today. What the Greeks began, and the Romans did something to further, although it was more along the lines of adopting what they found useful, definitely ended with the fall of Rome. While the spread of Christianity is popularly supposed to have brought the end of the gladiatorial games:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#credit

    the Catholic Church became Europe’s dominant European institution after Rome fell, and Mike Parenti argued that the Catholic Church and its book-burning zeal is what largely brought on the Dark Ages:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#dark

    Whatever “credit” is given to various actors, what is not really disputable is that Europe became very backwards compared to the Eastern Roman Empire during the “Dark Ages.” During the High Middle Ages, when the Crusades began after several hundred years of medieval “progress,” when those armies showed up in the Eastern Roman Empire to “help,” to the peoples of the day, the arrival of the “help” was like an invasion of a bunch of backwards, violent rubes. That First Crusade’s deeds live in infamy, both before, during, and after their great labor to liberate the Holy Land from the infidels.

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#crusade

    At the same time that the First Crusade was being launched, the so-called Reconquest of the Iberian Peninsula was proceeding, and the seized Islamic libraries are how the Greek teachings were reintroduced to Europe, as the Catholic Church had completely eradicated the Greek works as “pagan”:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm#toledo

    In numerous corners, that event is credited with reintroducing reason and observing the real world to Europe, as opposed to just reading what some writer wrote long ago. The fall of Constantinople to the Turks in 1453 resulted in a flood of refugee Greek scholars to Western Europe, as well as further inspired Portugal to find a new route to the spice trade, leading to its fateful voyages around Africa:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#portugal

    1543 was a seminal year for the rise of science in Europe, as Copernicus published his heliocentric theory, reviving a Greek idea:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#copernicus

    and Vesalius wrote the first great work of Western anatomy:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#vesalius

    which overturned a millennium of Galenic dogma on how the human body was built. Heliocentric theory and Vesalius’s work ran into stiff opposition, and their struggles arguably helped lead science astray, but I get ahead of myself. Just as Rome’s rise and fall had many facets, so did the rise of Europe, and the rise of science, reason, and political-economic systems founded on greed, massive violence, and global domination. I will be exploring those topics in future posts, but it is off to work for now.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi Hughe:

    That is a big topic that you raise, and I have covered it many times in my work and on this thread. Getting to Level 12 is like walking the razor’s edge:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level12

    and a primary reason why I am at Avalon is because I am not subjected to all of that Level 3 stuff that you are encountering:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level3

    I have had way too many experiences like that in “public” forums:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/critics.htm#troll

    If somebody like Brian O got a permanent hairdo change from the wind of all the doors slammed in his face as he tried to play the Paul Revere of FE:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#revere

    to openly wonder years later if humanity is really a sentient species:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianmem.htm#sentience

    people like you and I do not have a prayer of reaching them. Like many other entrenched perspectives, their eyes will only begin to open when they can put their hands on a working FE device. Machiavelli was right:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#machiavelli

    That is another reason why this is a conundrum!

    Most of the alternative stuff is also not valid, and probably most of the FE talking heads out there, and the tinkering FE inventors that are visible, really don’t have anything. Godzilla’s minions quickly remove the Real McCoys from circulation, with their immense bag of tricks:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#make

    On chimpanzee intelligence, that is a big topic. There are indeed mental feats that chimpanzees can perform that outdo human children and adults. It is thought that a chimpanzee is ahead of a human’s development until about age two, then the human takes the lead. But in the ability to think abstractly, humans definitely have the lead, although it is increasingly admitted that human intelligence is different from a chimpanzee’s for instance, only in degree, not in kind. We are not really so different from our close cousins, and studying the great apes has shed a lot of light on human development and our distant past.

    Time to run off to work.

    Best,

    Wade

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    Hi:

    To demonstrate how science is always changing, I just woke up this morning to this article on the demise of the dinosaurs:

    http://www.livescience.com/25324-vol...dinosaurs.html

    where the meteorite explanation is being challenged by the volcano explanation. This is far from a new controversy. In Peter Ward’s Under a Green Sky, he dealt at length with the controversy that the asteroid theory created when it was posited, and Ward was one of many scientists who traveled the world to find the K-T Boundary event in the sediments, where the evidence of asteroid impact was clear. The battles between the asteroid and volcano camps were heated, and it looks like the controversy is far from over. The volcano camp has plenty of objections to overcome, including why waterfowl dinosaurs survived:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post530604

    This is one of many White Science controversies that I keep my eye on, and we will see how it plays out.

    I also read this this morning:

    http://www.alt-market.com/articles/1...-even-less-fun

    These kinds of articles are, unfortunately, increasingly common in the USA, and I give a nod to them in a fear of FE post:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post430811

    Another tidbit before I get back to the rise of Europe was that in Pan’s Travail I read the earliest technology suppression conspiracy theories that I have yet encountered. The Romans invented window glass, and Pliny the Elder recorded a story that Emperor Tiberius heard that somebody had invented a flexible, unbreakable glass, and Tiberius had the inventor’s workshop destroyed as well as that glass that could have disrupted the economy by being more valuable than gold. Pliny the Elder recorded the tale but doubted that it was true. A later emperor, Vespasian, was accused of suppressing a column-moving machine because it would produce unemployment. So, these disruptive technology suppression tales go back a ways.

    Back to the rise of Europe. A history of those days cannot be complete without exploring the Catholic Church’s role. Its book-burning zeal has been accused of initiating the Dark Ages, while others have noted that the monks preserved the writings in their monasteries and have argued that the Catholic Church held European civilization together in those centuries after Rome collapsed. What is not disputable is that the Church ended up owning about a quarter of Western Europe’s land during the medieval period, and as early as 800 AD, Charlemagne tried to reunite the Church and Empire:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlemagne#Coronation

    and for the next several hundred years, the Church and Europe’s local sovereigns engaged in a dance for dominance that finally began to end in the 1500s with Martin Luther’s protests, which ironically coincided with the greatest era of proselytizing success that the Church ever had, by “converting” the conquered natives of the New World:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#jockeying

    This is not to say that it was the first threat to Church sovereignty; the Church exterminated the Cathars with extreme prejudice in the 1200s:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#cathar

    and The Inquisition got its start back then. The Inquisition still exists, by the way. In the 1960s, the Church simply renamed it (although they discontinued their index of banned books), and the priest who ran the modern Inquisition is the Pope today. There can be many arguments made about who did what and what the most important influences were, but it is widely acknowledged that re-introducing the Greek writings through the captured Islamic libraries during the Iberian Reconquest:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/radleft.htm#toledo

    initiated the rise of science and reason in Western Europe. The scholarly and philosophical efforts of people such as Thomas Aquinas were part of a movement that studied those rediscovered Greek works:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_...s_on_Aristotle

    and little did the Church know it, but injecting reason and observation into a world dominated by dogmatic assertion would ultimately be fatal to the Church’s dominance. Thinking people with their eyes open would eventually rebel against bogus authority, and it is arguable that that is the primary reason why the Church lost its dominance. When the printing press was invented in the Holy Roman Empire:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Printing_Press

    the Church thought that it would further its hegemony and help in the proselytizing effort, but it backfired with the Protestant Reformation, just as the Crusades backfired by bringing back the Cathar faith with returning soldiers.

    With the Greek teachings came the math of Greeks such as Archimedes and Pythagoras. Math was in the realm of pure logic, and the Church knew that it could not make dogma state that two-plus-two equaled five, and math became the refuge of Galileo when faced with The Inquisition’s might. Joseph Schwartz has argued quite well that the strategic gambits of Galileo, and to a lesser extent, Newton, of couching their theories in math, helped lead science astray, making it more insular, priestly, and unnecessarily intimidating for lay people to understand:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#galileo

    As Ilie noted earlier:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post582730

    science done right does not need to be some impenetrable mystery to the masses, and I agree. However, the ability to do math speaks to the ability to think in terms complex enough to understand systems behavior and abstract concepts that are what science is kind of all about. If people cannot do math, at least some of it, they will have a hard time understanding a lot of science. I am not stating that math and science are the same, and people like Schwartz made the case that science relies too much on math (Einstein did, too; Einstein said that the more beautiful the math that supported a theory, the less likely the theory described reality ), but the ability to do math is closely related to the abilities needed to understand science.

    My upcoming essay will not have much math in it at all, and the mathematical relationships that I will present will usually be depicted in charts and diagrams, like the one attached to this post.

    In Michael’s parlance (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#age), when Jesus walked the Earth, his audience was comprised mostly of Baby Souls. When the Church’s power was being challenged during the Reformation, with a period of overtly religious warfare that lasted for more than a hundred years, finally ending with the Thirty Years' War:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#violence

    the participants were largely Young Souls, and winning was everything as they ended up conquering the world. Young Souls are great at building civilizations and destroying planets, and the reign of the Young Souls is about over on Earth, and Godzilla is the epitome of a Young Soul organization, when souls are the most materialistic, and explorations of the spirit usually have winning and dominance as their goals. That is the soul age when the greatest negative karma can be racked up, and it was no different with Europe and its descendants such as the USA.

    Time for chores. I have been out of town for more than two weeks in the past five (I am getting too old for this! ), so I have catching up on the home front to do, so I might be a little quiet this weekend as I get them done. I hope that I am done traveling for the winter, but that is probably wishful thinking.

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    ...I also read this this morning:

    http://www.alt-market.com/articles/1...-even-less-fun

    These kinds of articles are, unfortunately, increasingly common in the USA, and I give a nod to them in a fear of FE post:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post430811
    For the past few years I’ve noticed more of these post-catastrophe scenarios fuelling TV storylines as well, turning our gaze to the uglier elements of surviving in a scarcity-riddled environment. To a degree it’s important that we’re not afraid to take a good look at our own shadow; important that we avoid burying the source of our pain so it doesn’t get the better of us unconsciously. But without balance it’s a one-sided, doom-selling, picture of self-defeat. I rarely turn on my TV anymore. But sometimes I like to imagine a world where, if I did, there would be in the news and in fictional adaptations visions of healing, collaboration and richly abundant creativity – more focus on our common wish for the greater good, and our unceasing ability to create our way out of the mist and into a new, more harmonious life.

    I thought I’d share this lovely quote from Grunch of Giants, where Fuller writes of how history does not have to keep repeating itself, and that we live in exciting times where our inventiveness has given us the technology to lay the foundations for a peaceful and creative co-existence, and sustain it.
    “I hoped that Critical Path made it clear that the accomplished design-revolution's prototypes and developmental concepts now make possible for the first time in history a bloodless social revolution successfully elevating all humanity to a sustainable higher living-standard than ever heretofore enjoyed by anyone... [portion missing] ...The social revolution potential now can for the first time in history realize economic success for all and a comprehensive world enjoyment that involves not revengefully toppling the economically successful minority but elevating all humanity to a sustainable higher level of existing and interacting than any humans have heretofore either experienced or dreamed of.”
    http://bfi.org/about-bucky/resources...osmic-computer

    I recently picked up a book in which various artists, scientists, elders and others were asked to write a description of their perfect world. The content and style of the contributions is as varied in imagination as you might hope and expect, and there are some truly beautiful visions. I thought I’d share the first one; I particularly like the way it ends:
    “The sun, the sea, singing saturating the day with blissful melodies. The pale blue, white cloudy sky, sweet mangoes and stories sweating the air with pungent aromas. Sitting on the veranda with friends, drinking cool sorrel, eating fish and festival, laughing so hard that tears roll down your cheeks and you fall off the chair in stitches, the joke so sweet, and knowing that you and everyone else in the world is safe, have food and shelter, and life would not and could not be without you.”
    - Opal Palmer Adisa, from The World I Dream Of by Curt Butz, Pg.12, O-Books

    I truly believe the universe in which we live is blessed with an abundance of life and love, enough for all of us and more; an ever-increasing, inherently supportive source of and space for harmonious dreamers. It’s good to have found so many who’re aware of it here.

    In our future world I think I’d like this to be the view from my little environmentally-friendly housepod...

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    Hi Melinda:

    That photo of the Grand Tetons made it into my screensaver pics. Thanks. Some might say that that would be where their summer home would be, and when that part of the world is in winter, they are going to live someplace tropical, or on Mars. I would probably spend at least one year there, taking in all the seasons. I have the great good fortune of living in a place that looks a lot like that picture, and I love all the seasons here. I am attaching two pictures that I took in August of this year at Paradise Meadows, on an arm of Mount Rainier. You can see why they call it Paradise. Stuff like that is a big part of why I live here. I also think that I live here as compensation for my journey, but also I was probably born here to help inspire me on the journey that I took.

    What made Bucky truly great, and the professional grandfather that I never knew I had until ten years ago, was his comprehensive vision that was rooted in practicality. It was not some airy-fairy New Agey perspective, but based in practical solutions, even though he was a mystical dude, too, as are all of my FE fellow travelers that I really respect. Bucky’s vision was a little different than mine:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#fuller

    but not so much as to be significantly different. It was really not until his life’s end that he wrote the bald truth about our rapacious system in Grunch, where he got positively Chomskyan in telling it like it is, describing the big tattoo on the Emperor’s backside that the mainstream will not admit exists. I did not get brought to the brink of suicide like he did; mine was a more horrific moment of awakening:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#it

    but the process was very similar in that we turned the corner at that moment, and really never looked back, although what happened after our respective moments of truth were never dull. Acknowledging the darkness is a highly important step of the journey. Denying it is one of the paths of failure. It is also important to not fixate on it. As I have stated plenty, the denial of the darkness or the fixation on it are both fearful reactions, and the loving approach acknowledges it and lets it go. Godzilla is a real hazard for people who do what I do, and I treat him like a do a thunderstorm; I can’t fight it, I can’t negotiate with it; I can only try to avoid the high ground when it comes through my neighborhood, but sometimes I can’t even do that, and I have been scorched more than once. It is simply a professional hazard of doing what I do. There is a lot of paranoia around Godzilla, which is the conspiratorial mindset:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#weakness

    and that conspiracism is a counterproductive perspective, kind of the flip side of the coin of all those who deny Godzilla’s existence as some sort of crazed conspiracy theory.

    A Level 12:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level12

    is not going to deny Godzilla’s existence, but will also not obsessively focus on his existence and how he can be defeated on the battlefield or snuck past. In all probability, the only way that he is going to be defeated is to be made obsolete, and that will happen when abundance reigns on Earth, and that is where visions like Bucky’s come into play. Making it happen is anything but easy, but what may be the more important first step is for people to begin to imagine what can be if FE and its attendant technologies made it past humanity’s inertia and the organized suppression, of which Godzilla is only the apex predator in a jungle filled with predators. That is the step that I have devoted the past 20+ years of my life to trying to get enough people to achieving, and we will see how it goes.

    And a short post on the rise of Europe…

    As I have stated, the story of the human journey has been one of energy use, and each epoch was defined by the ability of humanity to reach the social organization and technological prowess to tap into a new energy source:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#succinct

    and the big one has already happened, on the technological end. The social organization, however, is still rooted in the previous technological epoch, when energy was still scarce. If we do not turn the corner as a species, and Godzilla and friends successfully prevent humanity from using technologies that have long been in Godzilla’s Golden Hoard, it will be because not enough of us were able to achieve the requisite social organization (such as form that choir ).

    The study of the rise of Europe is really a study of the interaction between technological prowess and social organization that allowed humanity to ultimately tap into the energy of fossil fuels and power the Industrial Revolution. Could it have happened differently? Sure it could have, but we live with the legacy of how it did happen, and the point of choice is where we stand today, where the process can be understood and humanity can consciously choose to go to the next level, which would be the big jump that would dwarf all that came before it. The previous revolutions were not really planned, but kind of stumbled into:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#revolutions

    The FE revolution can be consciously chosen, and with Godzilla’s vigilance that is doubly true, and it may be some kind of divine design: unless we very consciously and purposefully choose to have FE, we are not going to get any. That is another reason why lone wolf inventors do not have a prayer, nor do capitalist-based efforts, nationalist-based efforts, and so on. It likely has to be a global awakening and effort, where the outcome is very consciously chosen. That is what Level 12 is all about.

    After centuries of what has been variously called stagnation, or the Dark Ages, or the recovery of the ecosystems from the rapaciousness of Rome, an energy event happened known as the Medieval Warm Period, which began around 800 AD. That huge explosion in the use of water mills after 800 AD:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post591797

    was accompanied by bringing ever more land under cultivation that was previously forested. The Medieval Warm Period was a great period of city building and prodigious deforestation of Western Europe. By 1300, as the Medieval Warm Period was ending, about 75% of the forest that stood in Western Europe in 800 was gone. The mills ground up the wheat that the increase in agriculture produced, and by 1300, Western Europe had reached is Malthusian limit, and the technology of the day did not allow for greater energy being wrested from the land.

    When the Medieval Warm Period ended and Europe cooled off, then the good times were over. The 1300s began with the first famine to hit Europe in a long time:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_F...5%E2%80%931317

    and the famines kept coming in the 1300s. Then, just as the Little Ice Age was beginning:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ice_Age

    here came the Grim Reaper:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Plague

    and the High Middle Ages came to a screeching halt:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crisis_...te_Middle_Ages

    as the Four Horsemen rode. The Danse Macabre:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danse_Macabre

    became a popular art form in the early 1400s, as a nod to those years.

    Because Europe’s population fell by about a third during the 14th century, wages actually went up in real terms because labor was scarce. And this is where social organization and technological prowess began to point the way to the Industrial Revolution, although it was a long, fitful process.

    The British Isles were isolated from mainland Europe, and the Brits were socially backward in many ways. That is even seen today with its royalty worship. Of the industrialized nations, only Britain and Japan, those isolated island-nations, still revere their royalty. The USA is a kind of bizarre variation of that theme, where we worship flags:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#flag

    Industrialization began where the energy was, and the mills of Europe’s proto-industrial period were not in the cities, but in the hinterland where the energy was. The waterwheels not only ground grain, but they provided the energy to run textile and saw mills. Before Tesla and the electricity revolution, energy had to be used where it was produced, and could not be transported very far once generated. In mills, energy was transmitted from one place to another by gears, pulleys, and the like.

    England was deforested long before Continental Europe was, and coal was burned to fuel London during the High Middle Ages. Coal smoke got so bad that the Queen of England fled Nottingham Castle in 1257, and an ignored edict was issued in London in 1307 to ban coal burning:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#coal

    The industrial mills in England’s hinterland became a seminal node of industrialization, but what was also important was creating the labor force for those mills, and that is where Enclosure came in, which also began in the 1200s, as coal began to be burned in earnest.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enclosure#Early_history

    Enclosure essentially kicked the peasants off of the land so that rich land barons could raise crops for export to markets. That dual dynamic of kicking the peasants off the land for proto-capitalist ventures was a key aspect of the rise of capitalism. Inventors came up with technological advances that made farming more productive on those landed estates, so fewer peasants were needed on the farms. Those landless peasants made up the labor force of an industrializing England. The ideology of capitalism also began in England. Adam Smith did not invent capitalism, but was one of the first to describe it. There are many facets of how the Industrial Revolution came to be, and I will be exploring them in future posts, but it really came down to the situation of a changed social organization combined with technological breakthroughs, aided by the rise of science and reason, making a fertile situation to begin exploiting the energy of fossil fuels. As I have written before:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post576615

    coal did not immediately supplant wind and water power, but it was a gradual process, with watermills and sailing ships staying competitive with their coal-burning counterparts well into the nineteenth century. But wind and water power were at the mercy of the weather (calm winds and droughts, as well as mere seasonal variation, put wind and water power at a great disadvantage to coal power), and in the end, they could not generate nearly the power that coal did.

    Again, there was really not some grand plan of the Industrial Revolution. It was greatly driven by the greed of capitalistic organization, which supplanted mercantilistic organization. That is a big subject that I will touch on in coming posts, and it will be a significant theme in my upcoming essay. The FE Revolution will be, if it overcomes humanity’s inertia and the organized suppression, humanity’s first energy revolution that was consciously entered into. Then we may be well on our way to becoming a truly sentient species. I hope that it becomes evident that the sentience issue and the FE issue are joined at the hip in very real ways. That is why the choir that I envision will have heart-centered sentience at its core. IMO, it must have that at its core, or it will not have a prayer of making a dent. All levels below Level 12 lack a key sentience ingredient (and they are all fearful, in one way or another). That is why none of them have ever worked and likely never will.

    Off to chores now.

    Best,

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    That photo of the Grand Tetons made it into my screensaver pics. Thanks.
    Best,

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    Me too....Thanks from me too Melinda : )

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    Hi:

    In all civilizations for all time, elites have engaged in coercive measures to garner themselves a disproportionate share of the economic pie that the civilization provided. It was virtually never really earned; hence the coercion. Even in today’s “advanced” civilizations, the public is coerced to pay taxes to support violent states. In all civilizations for all time, the primary elite goal is to get the non-elites to accept their lesser status. Because coercion by violence tends to unravel the very fabric of the society, elites have always sought to maintain the upper hand by less harsh means, and ideological indoctrination to help convince non-elites to accept their lesser status is as old as civilization itself.

    In all early civilizations, the elites either founded or corrupted religions into granting them divine status. The apex predators (AKA “royalty”) were always male, and one of their perks was enhanced reproductive rights, with all early potentates having harems in one form or another. This mirrors in significant ways gorilla social organization:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post537104

    and chimpanzees are similarly male dominated, with the dominant males having enhanced reproductive rights. If you look at a map of the world with its political boundaries, it is ape territoriality taken to its logical extreme. Territoriality is an energy-related behavior, in chimpanzees and gorillas as much as humans.

    In ancient Old World civilizations, whether they were Sumer, Egypt, Greece, Rome, and so on, slaves were simply part of the landscape. In medieval Europe, slavery was big business, although it kind of waned for a while, at least between white Christians:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery#Medieval_Europe

    But slavery was replaced with serfdom and other coercive institutions. The difference between slave and serf could be a relatively fine distinction, but by the 1300s, slavery was mostly gone from Western Europe, and this undoubtedly reflected the rising standard of living that attended the High Middle Ages. The social fabric was relatively stable, as long as there was enough food to go around. But when the Medieval Warming Period ended and famines and warfare began (a hundred year war between France and England began in 1337 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundred_Years%27_War , winning at all costs became the norm (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_F...7#Consequences), that fabric began to unravel. The Crusading monk-knight and notions of chivalry became anachronisms. That win-at-all-costs mentality that dominated European warfare is a primary reason why Europeans conquered the world. In virtually the rest of the world, warfare was more of a sport or religious experience; in Europe, it became a science.

    When starvation became common, the lower classes, particularly the peasants, did not idly take it, especially as royalty levied heavier taxes in order to maintain their elevated lifestyles, and peasant revolts became common features of Europe, beginning in the 1300s:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular...edieval_Europe

    The peasants never won, but were put violently back in their place at the low end of the economic hierarchy. There is certainly no Golden Age of the human past that historians or anthropologists can find, but from the 1300s through the 1600s, Europe during the Little Ice Age was often a hell on Earth, and no city would go a generation without being afflicted by famine, epidemic disease, or warfare, or combinations of those three. People were not forced to murder each other to entertain Rome’s masses, so it could be argued that “progress” had been made, but there is not a Westerner alive today who would want to live in London in 1600, let’s say, if they could glimpse what life back then was like. Several years ago, I was looking at photographs of people living in European cities only a hundred years ago, and what most struck me was how everybody was covered in soot. In London in 1600, nobody bathed, and the streets and the Thames were open sewers. The stench of the average London street would make the average Westerner today pass out. King James, the guy who sponsored the Bible that fundamentalists quote today in Shakespearean verse, may have never washed his hands in his entire adult life. He came to the throne in 1603. You would not have wanted to have him in your home as a dinner guest. A wise person did not walk down a European street unarmed. Two-thirds of London children died before age five in 1600. In the 1730s it was even worse, with 75% dying before age five.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_ex...tion_over_time

    Life was nasty, brutish, and short in Little Ice Age Europe, and the peoples coming from such horrific backgrounds would not make enlightened contact with the world’s peoples as they learned to sail the High Seas.

    The economic condition of Europe’s people had deep influence on their social lives, ideologies, and virtually every facet of their existence. It is something that comfortable Westerners really have a hard time imagining, unless they go visit the shanty towns of the Third World nations. Then they will get a glimpse of how their ancestors lived.

    Time for bed.

    Best,

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    Hi All

    Just wanted to tell i will be away "for a while". Wish you all Peaceful Holidays and
    Happy New Year (Mayan, Gregorian or <place your favorite one here> ) .
    Will keep you all in my heart and quietly sing The Abundance Song
    Bzzz... off i fly
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    Be well, Robert.

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    Wish you well into the new year Robert. See you on the other side

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    Right back at you my Brother
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    Hi:

    I woke up at about 5 AM, with my head spinning with the dynamics of Europe’s rise and what to write about next. The rise of Europe could easily be called a big accident. I agree that the rise of Europe was not some conscious plan of world domination. What it really was were numerous European nation-states scrambling for supremacy over the others, and they developed energy technologies and practices that were new to the world, and that great increase in energy use propelled their actions, allowing them to conquer the world. In doing so, they not only ended up exterminating many peoples of lower level of energy usage; they essentially enslaved the rest. The last peoples to fall to Europe were the Islamic peoples close to them and the ones who resided on the far end of Eurasia, primarily the Chinese and Japanese, because they knew the Empire Game, too, and kept Europeans out of their lands for as long as possible. Those Old World peoples were also not susceptible to the diseases that the Europeans brought with them, so their numbers did not fall so catastrophically as did those of the New World, Australia, and isolated island peoples.

    The glaciers of the ice ages ground up rock, and loess soils are made by glaciers, and are about the best soils on Earth:

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...1115113328.htm

    The heavier soils of Northern Europe were far harder to farm than Southern Europe’s and the Fertile Crescent’s, as well as those lands receiving less sunlight, so those lands are behind the curve that the Fertile Crescent and the Mediterranean periphery already traveled to becoming semi-deserts, but the ruination of soils is a global phenomenon today, with about 1% of Earth’s soils being lost each year:

    http://www.seattlepi.com/national/ar...ng-1262214.php

    and about the only intact soils on Earth are where people can’t live because they are on mountains, in deserts, or near the Arctic:

    http://www.globalchange.umich.edu/gl...soildegmap.gif

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Water_erosion_map.jpg

    The loss of soils is in reality another energy crisis, as the land’s ability to deliver food calories (from captured sunlight) is being destroyed by human activities. The Fertile Crescent and Mediterranean periphery already had their disasters with erosion:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...idu#post554340

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post555848

    and it is coming to the more northern climates later, and is actually happening far more quickly. American “settlers” have wiped out about half of the rich topsoils of the Great Plains in less than two centuries of plow agriculture.

    So, Northern Europe had a larger “soil bank” to start with, as it began its rise, as well as rich forests. When Europe began to invade North America, its rich soils and forests were the primary attractions, as long as they could eliminate the humans already living there, as those were largely already depleted in Northern Europe, but I get ahead of myself.

    The constant warfare in Europe, beginning in earnest with the “Reconquest” of the Iberian Peninsula from the Islamic peoples during the eleventh century, began to make Europe a thoroughly militaristic culture. Technological advances were put to use in warfare.

    English longbows were highly effective early in the Hundred Years’ War:”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_longbow

    but plate armor was developed to resist the longbow’s arrows:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English...nd_penetration

    in one of many arm’s races that the Europeans engaged in during their rise to global supremacy. Firearms were a great “advance,” in that they removed a great deal of the skill needed to use weapons such as bows. The Chinese invented gunpowder:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunpowder#China

    and quickly used it in weaponry. The Mongol hordes brought it to Europe:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunpowder#Mainland_Europe

    and Europeans wasted no time in making it part of the European arsenal, and cannons were soon used in land and sea battles:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunpowd...he_Middle_Ages

    As Bucky Fuller noted, technological advances were used in the highest performance situations, first, then “trickled down” to more mundane use (we can see that today in many “trickle down” situations of advanced technology developed for space exploration). The highest performance equipment of the day was the sailing ship. As I stated earlier, a sailing ship could produce several hundred horsepower:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post591797

    which was far and away the greatest energy generating equipment in the world at the time. Navigating the high seas of the Atlantic Ocean was no mean feat. The Indian Ocean is the most placid and predictable of the world’s oceans, and there was plenty of sailing traffic on it, but the Atlantic was another matter. Boat-building and navigation science and technology had to improve before Europe could sail the high seas, and Portugal is credited with developing the first ships that could truly sail the world:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maritim...ry_1400_-_1600

    although the contributions of Henry the Navigator are disputed by modern historians:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_t...se_exploration

    It did not take long for the Portuguese, and later the Dutch, to realize that Europe really did not have much to offer the rich lands of Southern Asia and the Spice Islands in the way of trade goods, but their ship-mounted cannons and military prowess allowed them to violently steal from those peoples, and a new age of rape and plunder was born:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winds_i...eans_Eastbound

    It was not long before European powers swarmed the periphery of the Indian Ocean, battling for plunder rights, as well as “colonizing” every scrap of the Atlantic side of the New World that they could:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#jockeying

    But that narrative’s trajectory gets ahead of myself again, and I will backtrack and deal with other aspects of Europe’s rise in future posts. It is off to work for now.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi:

    Again, the rise of reason and science in Europe is traced to the reintroduction of Greek teachings via captured Islamic libraries on the Iberian Peninsula. One of the early writers influence by those rediscovered works was Roger Bacon, who was a Franciscan Friar:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Bacon

    For the next few centuries, the old/new thoughts could be seen to influence Western European thinking, but the Church still dominated. Thomas Aquinas was a Dominican friar who also was influenced by those Greek teachings, and wrote commentaries on Aristotle:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_...s_on_Aristotle

    but the priests of the day used their logic to defend dogma, in a discipline known as scholasticism:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scholasticism

    The notion of observing nature had yet to take root, and it was not until 1543 that two works of what can be called modern science appeared; the anatomy of Vesalius (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#vesalius) and the heliocentric theory of Copernicus (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#copernicus) (the Greeks and others had posited a revolving Earth earlier http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coperni...arth_in_motion )

    Copernicus did not suffer from Church persecution, as he died before his book was published, but Bruno and Galileo did, with Bruno being burned at the stake for his heresies:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giordano_Bruno

    Galileo couched his theories in math, to try to escape Church persecution, and as I have written, it may have helped lead Western science astray:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#galileo

    Newton did something similar. In a world of scarcity, a philosopher, mathematician, or scientist tried to sell those products of their minds. The pioneers of Western medicine usually became court physicians:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#harvey

    while they had to fight their “peers,” whose theories and professional standings were jeopardized by the new discoveries. What has been vastly underplayed in the official histories of math and science is how often ideas, discoveries, and inventions were stolen. It happened all the time, but it casts a bad light on such hallowed undertakings. Every single one of Mr. Mentor’s inventions was either stolen or suppressed:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse

    That is the real world of inventing, and anybody who has played the game very long or at a very high level knows exactly what I am talking about. Pasteur’s apparent plagiarism of Béchamp is only one example of many in history:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#paradigm

    The evidence today is that Newton and Leibniz independently invented calculus. Both of their notation systems are used in calculus classes today. If you ever read the appendix of Hawking’s A Brief History of Time, you will read of his disdain for Newton as a human being, and he mentions Newton’s disgraceful efforts to gain precedence over Leibniz (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leibniz-Newton_controversy), and Hawking sat in Newton’s chair at Cambridge (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucasia...of_Mathematics).

    I have to run off to work, but this is a big subject that I will be spending some posts on. The interaction of science and technology is vitally important, and I will be sketching that relationship in the coming posts on the rise of science and reason in the West.

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    Hi:

    There is a school of thought that life itself is technology, manipulating the environment to ingest nutrients, and use the ingested mass and energy to build and run itself. Indeed, examining how the basic unit of energy that powers all life is made:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post521871

    reminds the observer of a highly sophisticated engine. How life adapted to its environment, and how life shaped the environment, has been a common theme on this thread. When humans learned to maintain a fire, it was the biggest technological leap that any animal ever took, and to a great degree, the trick of making and maintaining fire is what still powers humanity. Instead of burning wood, we are burning fossil fuels.

    Also, has been written on this thread numerous times, out tools made us. Many changes to protohuman and human biology over the past few million years have been adaptations to the effects of our tools:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post538067

    The rise of Europe was largely about the increasing sophistication of Europe’s toolset that exploited previously unavailable energy sources. Also, those increasingly sophisticated tools allowed for the rise of science, as experiments could be performed at increasing levels of precision, and phenomena that were previously unknown were studied. As scientists learned more about the physical world through their tools, their learning led to better tools. This was an iterative process that was quite pronounced, especially as Europe began to conquer the world. When ocean-going ships were invented, one of the first things that Europe did was begin to exploit the most concentrated energy “resource” in the oceans: whales:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/simon.htm#whaling

    With whaling, Europeans used the greatest energy generating technology of the day to exploit a new energy resource. After they scoured the world of the easily-killed whales, industrialization allowed Europeans to kill whales that previously were not commercially obtainable, and a second “whale rush” began, which continued until almost all the world’s whales were brought to the brink of extinction:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/simon.htm#modern

    Americans began to pursue another energy source as that first Whale Rush came to an end, and thus began the era of petroleum:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#industrialized

    which will likely come to an end in my lifetime, FE or not.

    The confluence of theory, math, experimentation, and increasingly sophisticated technology, which enabled new energy resources to be exploited, is the wave that Europe and its descendants have been riding for several hundred years.

    I don’t do it much, but I will do a post on Godzilla and how he likely came to be. He is part of the story, too, and his roots may go way back into history. This is an area where conspiracists have a field day, and I really don’t like to spend much time on too much speculation, but I will give my take on Godzilla and how he came to be. Why he came to be, I am not sure, but the how is a little easier to answer.

    Time for bed.

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    Hi:

    OK, a little on Godzilla and how he came to be. During the long evolution of humans, at some stage we became ensouled, if works such as Michael’s have any validity:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#michael

    When exactly that was, I don’t know. Proto-humans began to make stone tools long before homo erectus left Africa about two million years ago with its toolset that allowed them to become the world’s first hunter-gatherers. They either learned how to maintain a fire before they left (which Wrangham argues was necessary for homo erectus to evolve (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#cooking ), or learned it during their journeys. Anatomically-modern humans appeared more than 100K years ago, but humans did not begin to make the transition to modern culture until about 40-50K years ago, in the Great Leap Forward:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_L...t_leap_forward

    So, take your pick of when humans became ensouled, sentient, or whatever you want to call it that made humans qualitatively different from the other animals, our great ape cousins in particular. When the easy meat had been rendered extinct, globally:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#_edn5

    then the Domestication Revolution happened. Until there were sedentary humans, which was largely made possible by domesticating plants and animals, there could not be such a thing as an elite, because possessions were limited, as were stores of food, which was the first accumulated wealth. The ability to choose good or evil (arguably the essence of free will and being ensouled) likely began when we became sentient/ensouled, which predated the appearance of elites. But with the appearance of elites, the Dark Path could be pursued in new ways. In the Michael teachings, there are “elite” (exalted) soul roles such as kings, priests and sages, and one could argue that it is natural to have royalty and elites, but this world does not have any:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

    while this Dark Path world had its elites at the literal top of the food chain:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roadsblade

    but they were being preyed upon, too. In that system, everybody was a loser. The way I see it, steeply hierarchical economic systems get reflected in hierarchical social and political systems (the economy is always the dog, and politics and social dynamics are the tail, almost wholly dependent on the economic reality, as Fuller noted http://www.ahealedplanet.net/roots.htm#politics ), and that is where the opportunities for dark pathers multiply rapidly. If Michael’s framework is to be believed, or Ra’s (http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#ra ), a big reason why souls come here is to make the good/evil choice (or other-serving/self-serving, in Ra’s parlance), and keep coming back, exploring the ramifications of those decisions. Choosing either “good” or “evil” is neither good nor evil in the big picture that cannot really be glimpsed from our stunted perspectives that are bound by time and space, but those choices make up the meat of what souls come here to explore and learn from.

    So, in one perspective, elites and their games are mostly how dark pathers get to indulge their predilections. Some could argue that elites have done a lot of good in the world, perhaps as kings operate from the mastery pole of their soul’s role, but old soul kings do not seem to sit on thrones, but play their roles in other ways. Elites are far from a necessary part of society, IMO, but Godzilla is a hyper-elite organization, and it is helping to keep humanity asleep and in thrall to very evil designs. It is all about power and control for Godzilla, with wealth only a means to an end. Godzilla has been quite fractured for some time:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#cabal

    and Godzilla’s so-called White Hat faction is likely who gave a friend a little show long ago:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

    As I said in my interviews with Scott:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/public.htm#interviews

    if I had to put money on it, I would say that something will happen at the Godzilla level and FE will “trickle down” to the public, but my public work is shooting for a different goal, not waiting for some elites to “give” it to us. But I get ahead of myself. So, how did Godzilla come to be?

    Egypt was one of the earliest civilizations, and it had its mystery schools. The Epic of Gilgamesh is one of the earliest written works:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post541370

    and it played to the early elite game of making themselves into deific figures, to justify their place atop society’s hierarchy. That did not mean that the masses were only a bunch of superstitious chumps. Glimpses of the spirit world were certainly available to people back then, but it is harder for younger souls to encounter them, as they are on the outward journey, not the inward one that older souls are on. But the elites corrupted the human relationship to the spirit world, distorting valid perspectives into self-serving ideologies. It was part of the game that elites have always played, and it has always been a great opportunity for those on the Dark Path to play their games. Benevolently-motivated rulers virtually only existed in folklore. Into that mix came Dark Path notions of expanding their games, and it has extended today into an organization that controls the entire planet. Retail politicians such as the American president are a ways down the food chain from that organization:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#presidents

    and the important issues and solutions are kept under wraps by those unholy unions of self-interest that exist atop the global food chain. Again, power is Godzilla’s goal, but it is attained and maintained by keeping humanity mired in scarcity. That is why the FE conundrum exists:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm

    but there are really no victims in this situation. Godzilla can only play his games with a humanity that plays the victim game, and while people give away their responsibility for the world they live in, it provides Godzilla and the other predators in that food chain the opportunity to play their games. A hundred heroes could right the ship:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#heroes

    but those heroes likely do not exist, not those who play at the level necessary to overcome humanity’s inertia and Godzilla’s organized suppression:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#howmany

    In a way, Godzilla is fulfilling a need that humanity has. When humanity no longer needs to collectively play the victim game, Godzilla will become obsolete. That is why I keep stressing the love aspect, because love is how creators operate, and fear is how victims operate. Godzilla is the biggest victim of all, paradoxically. When Dark Pathers pass to the other side, their predatory proclivities are given full expression, but they only interact with beings with the same motivation. It is not wolves and sheep, but wolves and wolves, with each of them taking their turn playing the sheep. “Normal” people would call their existence a hell, but it was what turned them on while they lived in physical reality, and on the other side, everybody goes to where they are attracted:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#hell

    It is how we live our lives, and what mental and emotional habits that we develop when we are here, which determines where we go when we pass over.

    So, historically, elites have played their games from the beginnings of civilization, and dark pathers have always swarmed to where the perceived power was. Somewhere along the line, perhaps very early in the game, it was realized that the best dark path players operated from the shadows, and making the people on the thrones their puppets became the safest modus operandi. The dark path is not forever, either. All roads leads back to the Creator, and the dark path can be seen a long, meandering path of learning, where souls can truly get lost:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#love

    It can be argued that dark pathers evolve more than others in the long run, as their explorations cover more territory. We all likely at least dabbled in the dark path when we were younger souls, and relinquishing judgment of the dark path is one of the hardest tricks of being here.

    When Mr. Deputy rubbed my face in evil:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#faces

    it was the turning point of my life, and I will likely thank him one day for it, probably on the other side. When I realized that he was simply a dark pather making a living preying on others will appearing to be a public servant, it freed me from going down unproductive paths, and then the miracle happened:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#it

    I know, and Dennis knows, that when I came to that place of awareness and sacrificed my life, that created the opportunity for what might be called divine intervention to happen. So, it took dark pathers playing their games, and appearing to have it all locked up, before there was divine intervention. I only had one of those in my lifetime’s tank, however. Getting to the point where interventions like that happen uses up a life. I paid for that act of heroism for the next several years, and it precluded my having “frills” in my life such as having children, owning my own home, and choosing the car that I drove. I have no regrets, but those are real costs of walking those paths, and I have received plenty of compensation from my journey. I would not have had my radicalizing lessons and learned to see the world in relatively unfettered ways, free of our scarcity-based indoctrination:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

    unless I had walked the path that I did, and I would not trade my awareness for anything.

    So, I am actually sympathetic to Godzilla. It is a fool’s paradise to harbor dark path goals. Their biggest victims are themselves, but they have not figured that out yet. But, how did Godzilla become Godzilla? My guess is that as Europe began to conquer the world, it provided a means for the megalomania of the most influential dark pathers to extend their reach. Dark pathers also do not deny the spirit. They use it for dark ends when they can, but a world that is materialistic is the most fertile for dark path games, so Godzilla has flourished as the West reached levels of relative material abundance that has never before existed. The materialism of White Science is carefully managed by Godzilla, and as in all areas like that, the masses oblige the herd control tactics that Godzilla engages in. I have seen the sociopathic tendencies of the “skeptics”:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/dennis.htm#friends

    but what is amazing is how naïve people enable their dark games:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/skeptic.htm

    people who should know better. But that is typical, I am sorry to say. Every time we encountered Godzilla’s minions, what astounded me was how easily they duped people:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post585787

    I will likely never publicly reveal Bill the Hit Man’s real name, at least while he is alive, as the naïve and gullible are like putty in the hands of a dark master like him:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hitman.htm#death

    The dark pathers are good at what they do, I will give them that.

    So, while dark pather organizations undoubtedly existed in antiquity, Europe's conquest of the world afforded them previously unavailable opportunities. I am not so sure that organizations such as the Illuminati, Bilderbergers, and other organizations of conspiratorial lore are really the ones who wielded the dark path power. The members of today’s Godzilla you have likely never heard of. Greer said that the Mormon financial empire is perhaps the top Godzilla player, and from what we experienced, I’ll buy that:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#mormon

    I think that while the dark pather organizations have wielded their influence from behind the thrones for centuries, it was not until the Industrial Revolution that they really came into their own. They could wield power like never before. I have little doubt that many of the allegations around the retail elites have a great amount of truth to them:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#elites

    But they are the visible elites, and not the real dark path powers. Godzilla is invisible, and you don’t find him; he finds you. Focusing on Godzilla as the source of our problems is counterproductive and how victims think. Conspiracism is a disease of the mind and spirit, but the structuralism of the “left” also misses the big picture:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#weakness

    We are all really creators, not victims, but learning that lesson here might be one of the harder tasks in Creation. When enough of us “get it,” we can have something that looks like heaven on Earth:

    http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

    but the problem is not really about technology. The problem lies in our hearts and heads, and that is where the answer is, too.

    Time to run off to work.

    Best,

    Wade

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