16th January 2011 02:38
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Re: WADE FRAZIER : A Healed Planet
In Jeane Manning and Joe Garbon’s Breakthrough Power, on page 123, is a list of the thirty terms that Jeane has collected over the years that have been used to describe what is probably the same phenomenon, which is, in essence, the ZPF. The torsion field is not on that list, but arguably should be:
The bottom line is that the ZPF spins, and people like Schauberger were describing its rotational nature with his “vortex” description. Think of the electron’s motion in the atom to get an idea of the ZPF. I am not a physicist, but have encountered a bunch of them over the years, and it is obvious that quantum mechanics has plenty of room in it for the ZPF. Einstein had a big problem with the strange nature of quantum mechanics, and figured that it would fall by the wayside in its current incarnation when we knew more. Two of my favorite quotes on quantum mechanics are Richard Feynman’s, “It is safe to say that nobody understands quantum mechanics;” and John Wheeler’s, “If you are not completely confused by quantum mechanics, you do not understand it.”
Just look at those quotes by Schroedinger and Bohr, who helped invent quantum physics:
Yeah, I do not want to make this a free energy physics thread (although if there is enough interest, somebody can create one at Avalon, but I doubt that I would participate in it much), but I’ll say that nearly all of the free energy technologies that I am aware of are tapping into that field, harvesting its motion. A discussion of free energy physics quickly gets into the craziness of quantum theory, and I will not be leading that kind of conversation. Brian O’Leary realized early on in his free energy activism that discussing the physics was a loser for almost all audiences, and maybe especially with scientists and the technically trained. Brian has tried to lend his gravitas and experience into making free energy scientifically respectable, and I’ll never have his lofty credentials. However, Brian has one of those permanent hairdos that was created by the wind of all the doors slamming in his face.
As Bill said in our interview, Brian knows everybody. That is not much of an exaggeration. When he was in Princeton's Physics Department, his fellow professors numbered something like five or six Nobel Laureates. As you can see in that first interview that Brian did with Camelot:
he said that they would get together each week for social hour, and all they all did was ridicule anything that didn’t fit into their rationalist-materialistic paradigm. Brian felt uneasy about it, and that was before he had his mystical awakening. After he left Princeton, Brian helped Buzz Aldrin get a job and shared an office with him. Brian is not a name-dropper by nature, but when privately discussing these issues, he will talk about how some chair of a world-renowned physics department, whom he once studied under, would go into a semi-rage is he declared something like ZPE “impossible,” or how a famous atmospheric science colleague had sold his soul to the hydrocarbon lobby, or how one of the leading environmentalist names reacted to Brian’s suggestion that free energy might be possible as if Brian had personally attacked him, or how another huge name in the “alternative” energy community was very cool to the idea of free energy (and I am very familiar with that scientist’s work, and all he does is advocate windmills, wringing more energy out of that gallon of gasoline, etc.). In the scientific establishment, nobody is home.
Greer has had that same reaction plenty of times during his activism, but once the attacker’s colleagues told Greer what the attacker’s real motivation was:
When the California governor’s energy advisors tried to run us out of town back when Enron was raping him:
it was incredible to witness (it became a famous event). So, trying to engage the scientific community on the free energy issue is a non-starter, especially for somebody like me. I know that the technologies that harness the ZPF are many and spectacular, from Sparky Sweet’s stuff (if you take that link, you eventually get to the paper that Sparky wrote to describe the physics of his device, and you can get footage from Bearden of it in action, and there is some on the Internet (Sparky’s stuff was probably the Casimir effect on steroids: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOjSXjCOqYo )):
to what my pal saw in the underground setting:
But you and I will not be invited to such demonstrations, and I don’t even want to attend something like that (it can hazardous to your health to snoop around in that stuff).
Brian brings his scientific heavyweight’s credentials to the issue, and I bring the seat-of-the-britches experiences of me and those close to me. We have joined our efforts together on and off over the years, and it is a good team. My Bucky-like writings and archival nerdishness complements Brian’s man-of-the-people persona. For instance, I wrote the “Big Picture” part of that DOE proposal, as well as part of the “Further Obstacles and Opportunities” part.
I only did that because Brian asked me to. I doubt that the DOE is going to come to the free energy rescue.
I have encountered the DOE a number of times over the years:
and that is a big dead end.
Again, I am taking a particular approach to the free energy issue that I have never really seen anybody do before, and we will see how it goes. Keeping my planned conversation from disappearing into all the many rabbit holes might be my greatest challenge. Garage tinkering, Indiana Jones-ing, P.T. Barnum-ing, raising money, going to market, creating inventors’ “sanctuaries,” beseeching the government, knocking on corporate front doors, talking free energy physics, and so on, is all territory that I have trod before, and I am not really all that interested in that stuff anymore. You have to choose your battles.
I hope that is enough for you for now.
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16th January 2011 02:52
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Hi Dale: I am going to add an anecdote that you might find interesting. The story of my days with Dennis has not been publicly told yet, not really. My site hints at a lot that I have never written publicly about, to protect people, but one story is harmless and interesting.
When we were in Ventura, I talked with a man who had some “disruptive” technology that the U.S. government seized for “national security” reasons (a very common event in this field), and when he was in his twenties, he had reason to call Princeton's Physics Department. This was in the early 1950s, I believe. The phone rang, and some old man with a thick German accent answered it with, “This is Albert.” It was Einstein. Imagine that. The conversation quickly waxed quasi-mystical, where Einstein discussed his amazement at our universe’s incredible mysteriousness. They guy said that Einstein seemed to almost be wandering amongst the stars during their conversation. That is consistent with what I have read about him:
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16th January 2011 10:11
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