WADE FRAZIER : A Healed Planet

[aranuk]

Hi Wade, you mentioned it takes 10,000 hours that they say it takes to gain competency at any complex task. So I calculated that is working 40 hours per week it amounts to 4.8 years. My apprenticeship as a builder was 5 years. My studies in Astrology took 5 years before I could confidentally speak about certain aspects of astrology to astrologers. Just backing up what you are saying.

Stan

[Wade Frazier]

Thanks Stan. Some guy wrote a book about the 10,000 hours. Of course, there can be great variation, where some have past-life leg-ups, while others do not have the talent to begin with, but it takes a while to train the human animal.

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

Because the link showed up on my page, I made a post to another thread:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post445504

but the conversation has veered from the thread’s topic, so I am bringing it back here.

Hi Limor:

You don’t live in the USA, so I don’t know if you are aware of the Kool-Aid that all American children are force-fed, and it was way worse during the Baby Boom, with Father Knows Best, Ozzie and Harriet, Gilligan’s Island and the rest of that happy mythology.

While Israel has its founding myths (although its “Promised Land” genocidal allegories are charming http://www.ahealedplanet.net/savings.htm#joshua), with bona fide terrorists being Israel’s Founding Fathers:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#arsenal

American nationalism has a hoary past, too. Making master thief and mass murderer George Washington America’s first president:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#blueprint

was evidence of the deep plutocratic roots of the American Empire. The USA has always been a plutocracy, and the big decisions have not been made by governments for a long, long time. The private interests run the show. But when the Kool-Aid has been served up to American children for nearly two hundred years:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#flag

that is a lot of indoctrinational momentum to overcome, and I am about the only American that I know of who has, and I still have to work on it. All other American FE activists that I have encountered still have a little Kool-Aid on the corner of their mouths that they can never quite wipe off. The ones that I respect the most all began their journeys as flag-saluting Boy Scouts, including Brian:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paths.htm#scouts

As I write this, I have a eulogizing essay that I wrote about Brian that is waiting for final approval from his family. That essay will be a lot more revealing than his biographies that I have written:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/brianbio.htm

and one part is about Brian’s confession of how naïve he still was, late in his life. He put a vignette in his last book on just that subject:

http://www.brianoleary.info/Synopsis.html

For all of Brian’s background as an astronaut, Ivy League professor, corporate cog, advisor to presidential candidates and his vast global travels, he was actually pretty cloistered on the FE front. Dennis played at levels that Brian and virtually no other FE activist ever sniffed, because he was putting disruptive energy technology on the market:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#dennis

in a way that was potentially highly disruptive. When you start playing at that level, you enter a different universe, in several ways. Every presidential administration since Reagan’s has known who Dennis was. Clinton knew Dennis by name, and Obama probably does, too, and so did the two Bushes. But because of our encounters with Godzilla:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#offer

and there is plenty that I cannot publicly share today on that score, it became obvious that the sitting American president was nobody on the world scene. The presidents themselves were disabused of their notions that they really ran much of anything:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#presidents

and when I encountered Greer’s adventures while playing at those levels, it largely only confirmed what I discovered during my ride with Dennis. None of the important decisions are made by the officials of any official government on Earth, and it has probably been that way for a long time. But the Brzezinskis, Kissingers, Rockefellers and other retail elites are also not calling the shots. Bill Gates is a little boy with his toys, compared to the GCs, and you have never heard of any of them. They operate in the shadows. Sure, they use the world’s governments for their ends, but that CIA guy who delivered the quiet money offer to Dennis was only an errand boy, and probably did not even know who his paymasters really were.

Anyway, Brian O eventually began to realize it late in his life, and that probably had something to do with my adventures with Dennis. Somewhat ironically, one of the best things that Dennis and I had going for us was our naiveté and ignorance of how it really worked. Like fools, we rushed in, tugging on Godzilla’s tail. We survived the experience, just barely, but what a learning experience it was. Again, until you start going to market with disruptive energy technology, you are not really going to get the royal tour of how the world really works on that issue, which is the most important issue on Earth today:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#advanced

When I see people dispute that, I ask in what other area aspirants are offered a billion dollars to go away before they get the boom lowered on them. A hundred billion dollars in quiet money is a pittance to pay for the game that Godzilla is playing:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/risk.htm#radar

but almost all I ever get is stark denial, even from people who think they know something about the FE milieu. Garage tinkerers and FE theorists are not going to get offers like that. Only when you get close to market do the carrots and sticks grow by orders of magnitude.

So, that is the long way of saying that Brian thought that he was getting to the decision-makers in Washington, but he really wasn’t. He bought the illusion, and it took most of his lifetime to figure that out, but even then, he still could not completely buy the idea that Washington D.C. games and all retail politics is a dead end. I think that most people have to go through the experience before reality finally begins dawning on them.

Similarly, most so-called activism misses the root issues altogether as they hack at branches. If they think about economics, they focus on the egocentric aspect of the economy, which is the financial economy, and think that that is what needs fixing. They focus on symptoms, not causes. Money and banking is another elaborate illusion. Matter and energy is the real economy, and the financial economy is only a big illusion and is not really where the power is. However, people are conditioned to see no further than their self-interest, and that usually means that they never think past their wallets. It is really crippling to people’s sense of the real world to focus on money and banking, thinking that that is where the power and core problem is. The financial economy is the tail, not the dog, and retail politics is the hair on the tail - sometimes is it sleek, and sometimes it is mangy, but it is all superficial.

Time to do chores (as CdnSirian wrote, they never go away ).

Best,

Wade

P.S. Limor, your chicken-or-egg FE questions are good ones that I bat around plenty on my site:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#question

and on my threads at Avalon. I may spend some time addressing your question this weekend.

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Limor:

I have a little time this morning. On the energy issue, there are the practical and mystical aspects. I acknowledge the mystical aspect of it all the time. The greatest energy of all is love:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#greatest

and the flip side of that coin is fear. Fear is why personal integrity is the world’s scarcest commodity, which was my journey’s primary lesson:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy1.htm#burn

The reason why we do not have FE today is not because Godzilla is alive and vigilant, but because almost nobody on Earth really cares. It is that simple. Of course, nobody wants to hear that, because the collective human ego harbors many conceits. The truth will set us free, and I seek people with a love of the truth, and they are like needles in haystacks. The path of truth is anything but easy in today’s world. Virtually everybody settles for the tripe that our indoctrination systems serve up:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#dominant

because it appeals to the ego and promises material rewards to those “in the club.” All of those ideologies rest on the assumption of scarcity. FE makes that assumption disappear, so all of those scarcity-based ideologies will quickly become obsolete, and that is what people are so afraid of when the subject of FE comes up. That is also why far less than one percent of the global population ever makes it past Level 5:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level5

and I have only encountered a few level 12s in my lifetime:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level12

I regularly hear people wax mystical about energy, but few of them have a grounded, practical side of that understanding (excessive airy-fairy-ness is a handicap for this pursuit). I am more into the practical side than the mystical side of it, and New Agers are not my target audience:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/purpose.htm#newage

In fact, no single group is my target audience, because no “group” that I have ever encountered is truly enlightened and loving. Love and sentience is the key to making FE happen (heart and head), which is the lynchpin of making Heaven on Earth manifest.

When you mention making FE manifest harmlessly if it is wisely done, the only damage done will be to scarcity-based ideologies and the belly-filling teddy bears of our egos. People are afraid of change, because in a world of scarcity they think they will be on the losing end of the change. This is part of the conundrum. In a world of abundance, everybody can win. Godzilla is largely comprised of dark pathers:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/spirit.htm#serving

and fear is the name of Godzilla’s game. Keeping humanity mired in fear, operating at the ego level and hence easily controlled, is what Godzilla is all about. Sure, it is a spiritually sick condition, but Godzilla is merely the master of a game that nearly all humans play today. Godzilla’s greatest fear (losing control) is only a magnified version of the average person’s fear. When the magnitude of FE begins to dawn on aspirants:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#grandeur

I have actually heard people say that it is Godzilla’s turn to step down so that they can run things for a while. The people laboring under those delusions will be the first to stick their daggers in your back. Most FE efforts collapse from within or are taken out by the local energy interests, without Godzilla needing to lift a claw.

So, I lost interest in the hero’s route to FE long ago. I have no interest in manipulating people with “godly deceptions” into saving themselves, and the many other futile approaches that I have either witnessed or was a part of:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#approach

I am trying love and enlightenment, where truth prevails and we lay aside all the scarcity-based baggage so we can walk that razor’s edge. Less than one-in-a-thousand people are even interested, or they quickly quit when they get a taste of what that path is like, but I am looking for those needles in haystacks. It is also great training for somebody with patience issues.

Best,

Wade

[Limor Wolf]

Hello Wade,

In so many ways, Israel, being the extension of the USA, is not disappointing with its 'education program' and is doing its best to invest in what is evident by the name of the action - TO PROGRAM it's citizen's minds, the young and the old - no one is left to be deprived. please don't discount its enormouse efforts, this is done for many hundreds of years, actually thousands, with the jewish designated Diaspora, Quite a production' they had there.

And the Oscar goes to..

I would say that what you name Bona fide 'terrorists' are simply leaders who executed the Zionist agenda, wich was and is a part of the 'Global Godzila's agenda' without fully knowing it and were as mind controlled as anyone else. I feel that the difference between today and than is the direct knowledge that nowdays puppet leaders hold in regards to the overall plan i.e Obama, Nethanyahu etc. It feels as if they are fully aware participants, but thats an arguable assumption and fit for another conversation.

It is very interesting and almost shocking (in a positive way) to learn how certain individuals along the human history are gathering knowledge and choosing to walk the truth, inspite of facing major difficulties on the way to bring betterment for all.. Like Dennis, and like yourself and others. it must be accompanied, besides the courage the same person is holding, with a grander plan on a 'cosmic' level..

A child being born needs to push himself to the world, with labor pains and sometimes accompanied with complications, FE probably needs to be born the same way, as well as our 'new world' and our own evolution as human beings. But above all there lies an inteligence that leave us free to play our own games, but puts an eye and gives a hint on the direction we need to go. I believe it is this 'force' that will help us to implement FE in our future lives, as it was done in other parts of this infinte existance, simply as a next step in our development, However, we are the ones that need to play this advancment and give birth to this child, and that is what you, Wade, are indefatigably doing.

As I understand, the possibility of FE will be more seriously considered (by the public) when the notion of abundance is more common within it's awarness (the public's), the one is tied with the other, does that make any sense? This has nothing to do with the physics and science aspect of it, since I know nothing about it, Thermodynamic cycles, magnets or cold fusion.. I'm maybe a 1 out of the 15 in Wades scale.. But after getting familiar with only a small percentage of Wade's material ,that is what has left its impressions on me. I hope that I am not very far from the truth of the situation. I look forward to learn more and get my limited understanding of this subject more broadened (within my own limitations :)


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Limor


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I have not noticed Wade's second response above, I will read it as soon as I can, but I do notice the words : Love, enlightement, truth and it resonates already .

[blufire]

Hello Wade,

Synchronicity is one of those elusive things that never cease to amaze and thrill me.

I have loosely followed your thread and have labored my way through many of your essays. The essays have been a major tool in forming many of my thoughts and goals. One pivotal issue for me though with the essays is I can never find practical or pragmatic ways to implement the knowledge I have gleaned from your wisdom.

. . . . and then by chance or synchronicity I was led to read your last post this morning. You said:

I am trying love and enlightenment, where truth prevails and we lay aside all the scarcity-based baggage so we can walk that razor’s edge. Less than one-in-a-thousand people are even interested, or they quickly quit when they get a taste of what that path is like, but I am looking for those needles in haystacks. It is also great training for somebody with patience issues.

I would like to think I would be one of those needles in the haystack or at the very least a rusty nail.

I’m a bit of a maverick and tend to jump in the middle of something and by shear willpower and stubbornness get it done . . . . I would like very much at this stage in my life learn to refine my tactics. If you care to, you could read through a couple threads I have started on Avalon to see if I could vaguely be one of those needles you are looking for:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ountain-woman-

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...festation-Now-


I am not the first in my family to take a large seemingly unattainable goal to task. I would like you to meet my Mother through a blog from a cross county biker who just happened to come across my Mom. On his blog page you will see a picture of her and halfway down read his experience and encounter with her . . . . my Mom is Vivian Owens.

http://garybuffington.blogspot.com/2...-haysi-va.html

Through the blog you can see I come from hardy stock with a deep passion for stewardship for our beautiful planet. We tend to not take no for an answer and through trial and error and sheer tenacity figure out how to bring about a worthy goal . . . . even if that goal is moving a river with nothing but a masonry hoe and about 25 years.

[Wade Frazier]

Hi blufire. Thanks for your interest. I’ll put your posts on my list of stuff to read. FYI, when I get that conversation going, only people with real names will be a part of it. I don’t know where all this pseudonym stuff came from on the Internet, other than people’s fear and avoidance of personal accountability, but it is one of the Internet’s bad ideas. I put up with it at Avalon because they keep the trolls at bay. I have brought some Avalonians into a more inner circle of mine, and it has only been for people who use real names; they have to muster at least that much courage.

Hi Limor:

I am crazily busy preparing for moving my household this month, but I have a few minutes to spare. What I partly meant by "bona fide" terrorists is that the very word “terrorist” as it is used in the West today was coined by the British press in describing what those Zionists were doing, Menachem Begin in particular. When he was Israel’s Prime Minister, he never went to the UK because he was wanted for murder there for blowing up Jerusalem’s King David Hotel and killing about a hundred people. So, it is one of Orwell’s ironic lessons that Arabs are considered classic “terrorists” today, when the Israeli state is one of the greatest sponsors of real terrorism today, and that is state terrorism, which has always been the greatest instance of terror. But the powerful get to apply their labels, and the powerless end up getting stamped with them.

Since you live in Israel, you can let me know your take on what I have heard. I have heard that about a third of Israelis emphatically support what Israel has done to the Palestinians. Their attitude is similar to American “settlers” as they were dispossessing the American Indian. They view the Palestinians as subhuman, similar to how the Europeans/Americans viewed the American Indians:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#beasts

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/america.htm#sheridan

They would be called the Far Right in the USA today. Their American counterparts love it that the USA has invaded Iraq and Afghanistan, especially if the USA gets a steady supply of cheap oil out of the deal. Such Israelis may believe the rhetoric on the surface, but not even they really believe it too much; they recognize the naked self-interest in what Israel is doing to the Palestinians and its other actions in the region, and it sure feels good to be on the winning team. Another third of Israel (I mean the Jewish Israelis), if you get them alone, will readily admit that what Israel is doing to the Palestinians is not much different at all than what the USA did to the Indians (or Hitler did to the Jews during the 1930s), and they aren’t too proud of it, but few of them are going to speak up publicly about it, either. The final third really don’t care too much about the Palestinian situation. If Israel can somehow get rid of those pesky people, that would be a good thing, but they would rather not be bothered with the situation. For them, it is a great inconvenience when those “fanatical” Arabs become human bombs, and it can really mess up their lives if one goes off near them. That is what I have heard from people on the ground there.

On FE, it is like walking a razor’s edge to even getting to a productive understanding of the issue, much less taking action. The airy-fairy New Agers and the hard-nosed scientists both suffer from lopsided perspectives. I wrote some recent posts on what I am trying to do:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post442870

and what I am not trying to do:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post443043

The heart is the key, but the head needs to rise to a high level, too. Soft-headed New Agey thinking is not going to get there, and neither is the tunnel vision of the rationalist-materialist paradigm. The only people that can help this along at this stage, at least for what I am trying to get going, are comprehensive thinkers:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#developing

and my upcoming energy essay is intended to help people gain a somewhat comprehensive understanding. I gave a little preview in some recent posts:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post440998

and that is my bag. Almost everybody who encounters this issue, if they get past the initial denial:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level1

fall off the rails into the many pitfalls that beckon:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/conun.htm#pitfalls

which are also Levels 6 to 11:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level6

The science and technology is important (the people hewing to those FE paths are the people offered huge sums to stop what they are doing http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#make), and those who don’t really understand much about how the world really works (such as where our food comes from, where our electricity comes from, how much energy it takes to just put food on our tables, and how energy has always been the foundation of life on Earth and every human civilization http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#chart http://www.ahealedplanet.net/upcoming.htm#revolutions), end up being easily led astray. The world is full of hucksters and the deluded of every stripe, and on the energy issue, there are many dark alleys to wander into and pretenders on every street corner. I am doing what I can to help people navigate through that to productive understandings without wasting their lives in the pitfalls and distractions. Gaining experience on the leading edge of the FE issue is life-risking behavior, and if everybody had to learn how I did, we aren’t going to get there anytime soon.

A lot more to write, but I have to get back to work.

Best,

Wade

[Ilie Pandia]

I've recently discovered Paul Lowe and I think one of his videos is appropriate for this thread.

In my opinion the clip below (5min) presents quite accurately the situation we find ourselves in and the two most likely outcomes. The difference being, of course, love and personal integrity

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=k44aQFiw2Kw

[David Hughes]

Very sincere eyes on that guy. A pleasing tone to his voice too, seemed very genuine.

[Wade Frazier]

Thanks Ilie and Tyler:

Yes, similar theme. My bag is the economic end of it and what it all rides on. There are mystical and practical aspects of this situation. The Level 19s really have it figured out:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level19

For the rest of us who still need to eat, we will make the turn, if we make the turn, via technology lovingly and wisely implemented. One day, we will not need technology anymore, but that is a long ways off.

Here is what I don’t want regarding what I am doing: people believe that energy is the root issue because I said so.

My goal is to help train the Ilies and Tylers (AKA David Hughes) of the world, and have them carry the ball far further than I have. I had two world-class genius mentors:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/energy.htm#glimpse

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/advent.htm#hitting

and without their influence I would not have walked the path that I did. I have no regrets, but what a difficult, preposterous journey it has been. I also grew beyond my mentors long ago. I would like to think that they would rejoice at that, but neither of them pays attention to what I am up to, and that is fine.

There are some people out there with the right stuff, but there aren’t many. There are far more pretenders than contenders. The New Age Guru game is one of the most common, as clever men with shoulder-length hair have their mystical patter that feeds them and builds their harems. I just encountered one last weekend, where one of those East-Meets-West Buddhist psychologists with the Freudian goatee and the books and the seminars was kicked out by his wife because he could not keep it in his pants and he has a “special student” in every city to keep him warm at night on his tours, and the women line up, from ages sixteen to sixty-four. Very few can walk the talk, and maybe because I am so familiar with the milieu, I can spot that game from a long ways off:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/opinions.htm#mystical

What Lowe has in his favor is that he is probably too old to get in much trouble.

That Wikileaks dude is a prime example of thinking that his position entitled him to the “perks” of celebrity, but with the game he is playing, skirt-chasing is suicidal, as he is finding out the hard way.

In the end, whether it is Lowe or me or Brian O, by ourselves we can only point the way. The message is the message; some of us botch it, and some days are better than others, but these issues and solutions exist no matter what Brian O, Dennis, or I do. It will be up to others to walk the FE and abundance path, and I know that I am only on the early stages of it, and I hope that the younger ones get to see further around the bend than I will. Maybe they will get a glimpse of it heading toward this reality before they are finished:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/visions.htm#roads1

If I have to come back, that is what I want to sign up for.

Gotta rush off to work.

Best,

Wade

[Limor Wolf]

Hello Wade,

I resonate with quite a lot of what you had to say regarding Israel's state of affairs. please keep in mind that my English is average, I will not refer to numbers or percentage of Israelis doing this or thinking that, it is only an impression anyway, but I would like to put an emphasis on the main factor as to why people's perceptions, behaviours, method of thinking or indifference are the way they are. With heavy heart I will say that most of the people in my country are not able, at this point, to understand or to grasp any so called ' free format' thinking as they are heavily conditioned and mind controlled, I would suggest that even more than the usuall, breaking that, depends at the level of the individual itself as we well know. Of course, it is the individuals that are forming the society.

In general, the Israelis feels (and are constantly told) they are under attack, that their existance is doubtfull, geographically - this very small country is surrounded by 'enemy states' no where to go to, where to run incase there's a need, No ability to take a train and cross the border as can be done in America or Europe, if you were born in Israel, you are stuck. This has some psychological effect and the result is being on a constant survival mod (consciously or unconsciously), it does not help when indeed you are being threatened with eridiction, all this is of course fabricated under the 'custody' of the controlers, but when you dont know it, you fight for your life. Historically - no need to dwelve much on that, just to mention that the psyche of a refugee is far too complex, but many times the stipulation is - the one who was once hurt has now becomes the one who do the harm (in order to not get hurt again?) , very much similiar to 'the beaten child syndrom' - some of those children are adopting the violent behaviour agains all odds. generally- This is a tough country to live in,in the psychological sense (there are much more difficult places to live, but relatively) when the problems floods you ,it is more convenient to think about solution while seating near a swiss lake not by a gas mask 'obligatory' listening to news every hour, when you fear not having enough for yourself (enough security, enough water ) you are practically a saint to think about another who at present already don't have all those... thats the illusion , of course.

My hopefull solution is to do all possible to bring to the awarness of the people, so called 'victims' from both sides, the knowledge that there is a third hand manifacturing it all, and with the way things are rapidly deteriorating right now, an organized and planned missile attack on Israel from the palastenian side, and a possible never ending 'revenge' as a response, all very much orchstrated by the Israeli government and 'friends'.. not without certain cooperation by some palestenian leaders, I'm sure, all on the back of the people. who knows where we are getting with this one.. time to wake -up.

That has probably not answered your question, Wade, but thats what I managed to write.. The middle east is a dense area and its citizens deal with a lot of stresses, on top of the five "tactonic stresses" quoted from your Homer- Dixon book. Little do people know about the true reality of the situation, that needs to be told to them.. than you will see very different attitudes.

In the meantime, I would really like to see this message by you hanging on bus stations, in stores etc:

" For those who think life is all about survival, everybody dying is not a success. For those who think that life is all about following the rules, whose rules? Rules drilled into out heads by rote so we could be controlled, or rules we discovered by our experience? How about the rule of love? For those who think life is all about winning, what kind of prize is it if everybody loses? What if everybody won? For those who think life is an intense emotional trip, how about if our lives were a trip of intense love? "

Back to FE -

It will be interesting to really understand what you actually mean by 'comprehensive understanding' , How many different aspects are you refering to in order for a person to 'get the picture' and to be able to distribute the message properly, the way YOU know will be useful, I will keep reading because, I am sure that you already laid your Doctrine here in a very explainable way, and I am yet to catch up on that.. The massivness of it all and the problematics on the road are pretty clear, How to penetrate through those blockages without having the minimum number of people who grasp the idea, the implementation and the potential of it in all areas of our our lives, is still a part of the vision that I need to know much much more about. for this I will stay quiet and try to observe the atmosphere in this thread. expecting whatever will come


Ilie - Thank you for the Paul lowe video,I already forward it to a couple of people, whoever understands it will understand.. we can not manifest an expantion in consciousness for other people, we can do the work only for ourselves, But, it is happening, somehow, and there is no denying that. This thread would not look the same a couple of years ago , Wade would have one or two participants if at all, what will be in a year from now? ~


Wade, have an easy move

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Limor

[blufire]

Hi Wade,

I’ll have to say I read your response to my post with a bit of amusement and a considerable level of surprise.

I am amused because I feel if you had taken the time to read through the threads I mentioned I don’t think you would have put me in this category of fear, lack of courage and avoidance of personal accountability. I am surprised because with your level of intellect and desire to approach the future with an open heart, mind, intensity and accountability you would jump to such a conclusion before any type of investigation or inquiry of who I am and my level of integrity and responsibility.

As to my real name as my avatar . . . . I have only recently posted my picture on Avalon because of the extremely (I feel) important project I am undertaking and my desire that those interested know I am real and very sincere and motivated. Posting my picture was a bit of a test. As a single woman, with all my teeth and at least giving the appearance of having “my poop” together, I tend to attract certain men folk who can become troublesome. I have been quite relieved that the pm’s I have received of a personal level have been very respectful. I believe this is due to the application process and moderation of this forum. But I will have to say that if a requirement of yours, to take our interaction and dialogue to a more intense level, is that I post my name as my avatar for the thousands of guests who come to Avalon daily to see . . . then I will have to respectfully bow out. I have posted my real legal name on my profile where you and other members can see, but I prefer that my name is not revealed (at this time) to the general public. I am not so naïve to think that if someone really wanted to know who I am that all it would take is a few well placed clicks of the mouse. But this at least holds a few at bay. I have had to deal with stalkers and harassment in the past and I find it purely an aggravation . . . I do not view myself a victim or fearful in this respect . . . .my last stalker was met with a 12 gauge pump action shotgun and three well placed shots over his pickup truck.

Just as you are looking for those needles in a haystack, so am I. I am tired and impatient of all the endless pontifications and eschatological debates. Let’s start putting some of your brilliant essays into action. I am aware, as you, that neither of us will see these come to fruition in our lifetime but I know two or three generations down the road others will thrive from the foundations we will build. My joy and great satisfaction when my soul’s energy returns to the cosmic fold will be that I at least attempted to accomplish what I desired when I returned at this time and place and this planet.

So ball’s in your court Mr. Frazier . . . .what do you say? . . . let’s “git ‘er done”.

[sandy]

Hi Everyone,

Just wanted to say welcome to our new readers and great to hear stories from your personal view points and lives. I love it!!

I too believe that babies are totally aware and as early as birth as I have seen it in their eyes and actions too! Paul Lowe (thanks Ilie) does say his truth and I appreciate that as like Wade says, so few want to hear it let alone stop and take a look and heaven forbid>>>>look within

Spring is finally arriving here and I love the sunshine, warmth and even the melting snow>>>>shoveling it away from the house today though to alleviate flooding issues hopefully. Great to be outside without all the winter gear and going to start seedlings soon in the house in prep to add more beauty to "Mother Earth".

Have been feeling very quiet as of late, a good and calm quiet but as always wondering what it is all about within?? I have always wanted a peaceful life and now that I have one with little to no real turmoil, I find it puzzling that I don't have a motivator mechanism. It is not apathy as I have plenty of empathy, compassion and care for others but realize no matter how I try and help it really is up to the individual person. It's like a stuck feeling>>>>>>>Damned if you do.........Damned if you don't!!

Sounds like you found a place Wade so best wishes for a smooth move and I only wished it was in my neighborhood so I could throw you a house warming party and welcome.

[Wade Frazier]

Hi all:

Oh boy, there is a lot to say, but I don’t have much time. Limor, that was one of the most wonderful posts that has been made on my thread. Thank you deeply. I could write about my Jewish Holocaust researches (which is what made me commit to stop drinking):

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/war.htm#toward

or the sad stories told by my Palestinian refugee friend, or my many Jewish-American friends, or my cop pal who ran afoul of the Jewish mob:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/cover-up.htm#wean

or my friend who recently visited a Palestinian exchange student who stayed with her in the USA, and she made the mistake of saying that she was visiting “Palestine” when she got off the plane in Israel, or how Chomsky was my most influential political writer, but not tonight. Your post was not wasted on me at all.

Hi Sandy:

Yes, the move is happening this month. That you are having a blessedly quiet time in your life is important to me. I am glad that somebody is doing it, and who deserves it.

Hi blunile. You have at least one friend here at Avalon whom I hold in high regard, but you are misinterpreting what I wrote. You say you want to be a needle. I interpret that to mean that you want to be a part of the conversation that I plan to eventually mount. Avalon is just the warm-up. Those people will use real names, and not so that the others in the conversation know who they are, although that will also be important, but so that it helps embolden the people around the world who will be watching, and there will be plenty, including Godzilla. I have written this on this thread more than once, so I only repeated what you seem to have not read, making my intention clear.

What I am envisioning is going to be done by real people, not people hiding behind masks, whatever their fears are (even if justified with stalkers and the like). If they can’t be a face with a name, they can’t be a public part of what I plan to mount, sorry. You may want to bow out now.

I have given this a great deal of thought for a long time. If people want to play the anonymous game with the public at Avalon, I don’t mind, but the needles will use real names. Not many posters on my thread have used real names, and some may cross the line and become needles one day, but that bridge is a ways away.

I have had to consider whether I would make an exception for somebody living in Iran, for instance, where free expression has a hard time, but I still am siding with them not being a part of that conversation. That Iranian filmmaker who is under house arrest still smuggled out his movie shot on his phone. I am not asking people to be heroes like he is, but I am not going to be making exceptions for Iranians or Chinese citizens, much less Americans.

It is time to stand up and be counted. Enough said.

To Avalonians in general, I am way too busy, as usual. My crazy career path is either being a one-percenter or my career is over. I don’t get anything in-between, so I end up working insane hours, and my body is slowly wearing out. I don’t know how many more years I can do it, but I have to try. I sacrificed my life to do the FE thing, spring Dennis from jail, do my site, and so on, and I have to make hay while the sun shines. People are constantly vying for my attention and energy, but there is only so much to go around. I have stated it before and I will state it again: Ilie is the gold standard of what I am looking for at Avalon. He has done his homework, and he is singing the Level 12 tune about as well as I have ever seen:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...by-Free-Energy

and that is really all that I am trying to do at Avalon – encourage more like Ilie to sing (after first learning the hymnal, which is about FE and abundance). I am not looking for heroes, not looking for people to get “active” on the FE front, and so on.

Best,

Wade

[WhiteFeather]

Posted by Ilie Pandia (here)
I've recently discovered Paul Lowe and I think one of his videos is appropriate for this thread.

In my opinion the clip below (5min) presents quite accurately the situation we find ourselves in and the two most likely outcomes. The difference being, of course, love and personal integrity

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=k44aQFiw2Kw

Awesome Video Ilie, Awesome.

[Wade Frazier]

Hi:

Back to energy. I was gifted in math while young, and crunch numbers for a living today. When people do something like that for a living, they can simultaneously become impressed with what the exercise can tell them, while also realizing the limitations. Einstein once said that the more that a theory conforms to beautiful math, the more likely the theory is wrong. Numbers are abstractions of reality, and it may be a uniquely human trait to become mesmerized by the abstraction, mistaking it for reality. That is how symbol-worship happens (flags, “holy” books, statues, equations, etc.). The map is not the road.

That aside, quantitative analysis has its merits. I do it in my site to some extent, such as here:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/lessons.htm#chart

but only to give ideas of the magnitude of the issues. Graphic representations can also get the idea across, and I probably prefer them to numerical presentations. The picture below will be in my energy essay, making clear how small and delicate life on Earth is.



In Brian O’s last years, he was trying to locate an assistant who could crunch the numbers on the traditional energy alternatives. During his early days of the energy game, working for Mo Udall and playing on Capitol Hill:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_O...cal_activities

Brian began to see how wind, solar, and other traditional alternatives just didn’t cut it. He wanted to revisit it in his last years, I think as a way to deflate the crazy thinking in the mainstream about how the traditional alternatives have a prayer of solving our problems. Biofuels are completely insane. The calories of biofuel that fill an SUV’s tank could feed one person for a year. But they are bandied about, by energy companies no less, as some kind of viable alternative. And almost nobody says anything about it but nods their heads, or people think that buying a hybrid car is somehow contributing to solving our energy problems.

In earlier posts, I threw out some numbers on Energy Return on Investment (EROI) off the top of my head, which brings reality to the energy issue. Money is a poor measure of economic reality. During the 1930s, when the East Texas oil fields were in their early days of exploitation, the EROI was more than 100-to1, meaning that every unit of energy invested yielded a return of more than 100 units of energy. Today, the number in the USA is about 17-to-1. Biofuel alcohol literally has an EROI of about 1, and some scientists say that it is less than 1, to enter surreal realms. The declining EROI is largely because the energy needed for extraction has quadrupled, as oil wells need to be drilled deeper, and other technological tricks are used. Only about 30% of the oil in an oilfield was considered extractable in the 1960s. Today, with all sorts of tricks such as injecting water and carbon dioxide and new drilling techniques, they can remove up to half of the oil. The big oilfield discoveries were virtually all made by the early 1960s, with very little discovered since then. There has only been one million-barrel-per-day oilfield discovered since the 1950s, and no half-million-per-day fields have been discovered since the 1980s, and only two have been discovered since the 1960s. Humanity burns about 85 million barrels per day.

The easy oil is gone (except for Iraq and Iran and a few other spots, which is why the American military is so interested in those places), and the EROI keeps falling as more and more marginal sources of hydrocarbons are exploited. If you study the slaughter of the whales:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/simon.htm#whaling

or the eradication of the forests worldwide, oil is going through a classic resource depletion cycle. After the cream gets skimmed off, the lower levels are consumed and eventually you are sucking at the dregs. The Canadian Tar Sands have been touted for years now as some kind of solution to our energy problems. The EROI on those tar sands is quite a bit less than 5-to-1.

In Homer-Dixon’s book:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post440998

his primary touchstone was how Rome burned through its energy supply, with its EROI in continual decline, as it shipped grain, wood, and slaves from increasingly vast distances, and its EROI fell below that needed to sustain the Empire, and it slowly crumbled. Barbarian invasions were only symptoms of Rome’s decline, not a cause. Homer-Dixon and his research assistant crunched the numbers on building the Coliseum, and found to their surprise that 75% of the energy used to build the Coliseum went to feeding the oxen that hauled the building materials, and the vast majority of the material went into the foundation. The visible arches and other architecture that has survived for thousands of years, to be marveled at for its engineering prowess, was a tiny portion of the energy outlay. Crunching the numbers can lead to stunning insights.

Unfortunately, Homer-Dixon, like every other mainstream energy observer that I have seen (if we ignore Heinberg’s instant and naïve dismissal http://www.ahealedplanet.net/hooked.htm) completely ignores what Brian called New Energy, but he makes it very clear that an industrialized civilization that is almost totally reliant on fossil fuels (about 85% of global energy industry production) is doomed, and soon. Conventional oil, the cream which runs industrial civilization today, at about 40% of our energy and virtually all transportation, began at 2 trillion barrels in 1859, when the first oil well was drilled in Pennsylvania. We have burned through half of that oil already, and the rest will be gone in my lifetime. It took Mother Nature hundreds of millions of years to accumulate those oil deposits, and we are going to burn them all up in two hundred years, for a depletion rate of around a million times as fast as it is being created:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/scarcity.htm#_edn6

That is slightly less than sustainable. So, when I hear people say that if we just shared that there would be plenty for everyone, it is hard not to laugh. Unless FE breaks free of humanity’s inertia and the organized suppression, the industrialized world is going to hit the brick wall at about Mach 2. All the tar sands, heavy oil, natural gas frakking and other dregs-sucking might mean that we only hit the wall at Mach 1.5 instead of Mach 2. That stuff is not even a band aid, but just more promotion of delusion, and Godzilla must sit back and laugh when he sees all the so-called energy alternatives being bandied about, while FE is completely off of the table in virtually every mainstream and “progressive” conversation on the planet.

The fringe hears about would-be rampart-scalers all the time, with Steorn and Rossi being among the latest aspirants, but we have seen that movie too many times already (I starred in one of those episodes), with people trying the doomed capitalist route, getting patents and the like, as everybody keeps trying to pour the new wine into the old skins. The day that an inventor with the goods gives it to a worthy group, I am going to get interested. Until that day comes, I don’t want to hear about it. That worthy group has never existed before, and what I plan to do can be seen as trying to amass that worthy group, but for now, all I want is to help people learn to sing the abundance song. It can’t just be some New Agey chant of “Let’s just love each other,” although that is the key. The head needs to be engaged, and that is where comprehensive thinking comes into play:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#developing

Vanishingly few people have ever learned to sing the Level 12 song:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/paradigm.htm#level12

and if I can help that choir form, it may produce harmonic effects that will help catalyze the change. I have never seen anybody try it before. It takes hard work, on many fronts, to reach Level 12. It is not as easy as picking up the hymnal and humming along, but learning to sing the song I think can help.

I have to run off to work now.

Best,

Wade

[David Hughes]

Stats like this one hit home hard:

"It took Mother Nature hundreds of millions of years to accumulate those oil deposits, and we are going to burn them all up in two hundred years, for a depletion rate of around a million to one"

Alternative energy supplies about 15% of our energy needs and for various reasons will never provide the answer.

You also say above that an industrialized civilization relying on fossil fuels is 'doomed and soon' and that the remaining oil will be gone in your lifetime - which gives what - 30, 40, 50 years max?

[Limor Wolf]

Originally posted by Wade: :

".. So, when I hear people say that if we just shared that there would be plenty for everyone, it is hard not to laugh. Unless FE breaks free of humanity’s inertia and the organized suppression, the industrialized world is going to hit the brick wall at about Mach 2.

No oil --> No electricity --> No food --> No manufacturing --> No modern life available

As a begginer I wonder what are the government white hats proposing in solution to this very acute problem. The Godzila's are all about using, abusing, depleting and running somewhere else. But if most scientists are aware that the various energy alternatives solutions such wind, sun and hydraulic are only going to keep the problem at bay, and that its not overly efficient, what is keeping them from examaning the possibility for Free energy ? I assume that this knowledge is not widespread, but what happened when it was brought to their attention? in other words, at what stage Free Energy is being stopped? Introduction, understanding, recognition, faith, research, legislation, implementation?
surely the last one is out of the question, but I would like to understand on what stage the supression beggins. sorry for the naive question, but if someone is willing to give a short answer to that...

I need to check the corridors of the establishment before I defect to the dark alternative territory :-)


Hi David, could you give a link to what you read on the benevolent white hats ?

[David Hughes]

Hi Limor,

I cant recall exactly where i heard it quoted but im almost certain it was in a 'Project Camelot' interview or one of Scott Jordan's interviews on Spectrum Radio Network (Scott follows this thread and posts from time to time).

Here's a link to the site where the interviews are archived:

http://www.spectrumradionetwork.com/

The ones with Proctor Gamble, Adam Trombly, and obviously Wade that are on there are well worth listening to. FE is discussed in some detail.

Wades interview with Brian O' Leary on Project Camelot is a great overview too and should answer many of the questions you have.

Here's a link to that one:

http://projectcamelot.org/wade_frazier.html

Enjoy

[Wade Frazier]

Hi Tyler:

The other 15% is not alternative energy. It is nearly all nuclear and hydroelectric. What is called alternative energy - wind, solar, etc. - is still less than 1%, and at current rates might get up to 2-3% when the last barrel is sucked out of the earth.

On current global energy consumption, remember that only about one billion out of the seven billion humans alive today live in the industrialized world. China and India are industrializing, and will take all the energy that they can get their hands on. At projected rates, all the conventional oil will be gone within forty years. But the crisis hits as the rising demand and declining supply intersect, which is about now. What the USA is doing in Asia today is what Heinberg called Plan War, where the rich and powerful nations simply plunder the poor ones that are sitting on the energy deposits. Genocide of the “towel-heads,” awesome and escalating damage inflicted on the environment, and the only “solutions” we see are crap like chemtrails and other geo-engineering projects - quite a nasty tally.

Godzilla is insane, or diabolically sane, depending on your perspective. Holding onto power is his primary goal, even if it means destroying humanity and the planet. As I have said in my interviews and on my site:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#cabal

it does not take a rocket scientist to see where things are headed, and the GCs are fractured, and most now want FE to come out, but they are not about to openly break ranks. My perception is that this show:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/camelot.htm#underground

was given by a faction of that disenchanted 70%.

Yes, I am praying for the miracle, too. It really would not take many people to focus on this issue in an enlightened fashion to push us over the top, and yes, that is the surreal part of my journey, probably more unbelievable than any other aspect of it. That utter coma that 99.9% of the population is in is what led Brian O to ask if humanity is a sentient species, and what sent me into a hell of a midlife crisis:

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/opinions.htm#crisis

As I have written, everybody whom I respect who has played at the high levels has their moment of disgust.

http://www.ahealedplanet.net/journey.htm#disgust

Those still active overcame it, and you just have to love humanity anyway. That is the hardest part of the journey.

If you were Godzilla, and you saw everybody so asleep and egocentric, how would you feel about the situation? My perception is that Godzilla is highly elitist and regards most of humanity as useless eaters that are good for stampeding off the cliffs once in a while, to thin out their ranks while providing entertainment. And if humanity wipes itself out, Godzilla might just cheer with a fiend’s delight (from his survival enclaves, of course). There is a plan to thin out the ranks to about 10% of the current global population, and it is not difficult to understand the perspective behind that plan. And I wonder how much I could really condemn Godzilla for taking that position, seeing where humanity is. Believe it or not, I have sympathy for Godzilla, and I know that factions of Godzilla really hope that I can get some kind of heartbeat and brainwave out of enough of us to make a difference (although other factions would take me out in an instant if they see me as a big enough threat, and I have already given them interesting days at the office). Do we prove Godzilla’s “uncharitable” views of humanity wrong? Can enough of us wake up in time? That is what I am trying to help along, and yes, you are seeing my “focus,” if you will, on doing this.

My seemingly “fanatical” focus has been with me since I was young, and is what it took to ace my academic career, keep my eyes and mind open in urban hell, go deep on my spiritual studies, chase Dennis after that voice led me to him, stand the ground when everybody else was either fleeing, cowering before Godzilla or helping him out, begin the twenty-years-and-counting project that is seeing me make all these Avalon posts, which is only a prelude to what I really plan to mount once I get that essay written. I won’t give up. And you might say that I have a long-suffering wife.

I owe her, big, for putting up with me for all of these years. We got together six weeks after the raid, and I met her two months before the raid, so she saw the whole enchilada.

But, we are on the cusp of the biggest transition our species will ever make, if we don’t wipe ourselves out in our idiocy and egocentrism. I think that, in the big picture, I can only be grateful that I had a chance to make a dent, even if it all goes down the tubes.

I am happy that you are keeping your awareness in the game, Tyler. Everybody who focuses on this issue is needed right now. Just being aware is enough for now, I think.

Best,

Wade