# Thread: Numerological interpretations of the Notre Dame fire, April 2019

1. ## Numerological interpretations of the Notre Dame fire, April 2019

While watching the fire, I had to think all the time about 9/11.
The "two towers" were - this time - not destroyed, but there was an eerie feeling of "symmetry" to these two events.

I calculated (here on this website:https://www.timeanddate.com/date/dur...&m2=04&y2=2019) the number of days between the two dates (including the first, but not the second) and the number that comes up is

6425

Or: 8²|5²

It is maybe just coincidence… but then again, in instances like this one, how likely is such a coincidence?

And if there is "some meaning" to it, what can or could it be?

This is an event that is too important to "not" have a deeper, hidden meaning, of whatever kind.

Anybody else has had similar thoughts?

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3. ## Re: Numerological interpretations of the Notre Dame fire, April 2019

Posted by Keyholder (here)
While watching the fire, I had to think all the time about 9/11.
The "two towers" were - this time - not destroyed, but there was an eerie feeling of "symmetry" to these two events.

I calculated (here on this website:https://www.timeanddate.com/date/dur...&m2=04&y2=2019) the number of days between the two dates (including the first, but not the second) and the number that comes up is

6425

Or: 8²|5²

It is maybe just coincidence… but then again, in instances like this one, how likely is such a coincidence?

And if there is "some meaning" to it, what can or could it be?

This is an event that is too important to "not" have a deeper, hidden meaning, of whatever kind.

Anybody else has had similar thoughts?
Oh, definitely, there is a meaning behind the fire: it just means that no one guessed correctly the old alien puzzle which said: River Seine flows through Paris. Indicate an island which the river flows around.

If you use both parentheses to render an island, then there are 4 possibilities to choose from:

1. S()EINE
2. SE()INE
3. SEI()NE
4. SEIN()E

The four options seemingly lack any meaning - something that would lead toward solving the puzzle - but if you temporarily remove the island (), you end up with the name SEINE split into two parts. The trick was to meaningfully connect both parts.

1. S__?__EINE
2. SE__?__INE
3. SEI__?__NE
4. SEIN__?__E

There appears to be only one significant option and that's Option 4, because you can meaningfully bridge the gap between N and E.

Q: SEI[N__?__E]
A: SEI[NotredamE]

Notre Dame cathedral is one of the prominent features of Paris built on Ile de la Cité. Definining the island as

() = Ile de la Cité,

Option 4 is then the correct answer in the initial puzzle.

1. S()EINE
2. SE()INE
3. SEI()NE
4. SEIN()E

Now, the time when the solution was supposed to be available in case no one solved the old alien puzzle. You will surely understand this numerical assignment particular to the solution:

SEIN E = 4 1

According to the way the name of the river is written, the name is a collection of 4 and 1 letters. But written normally, it is a collection of 5 letters:

SEINE = 5

So, what does the sequence 4 1 5 mean?

Well, timewise it means 4 15 or April 15, the month and the day the smart asses "out there" tossed the match and the cathedral caught on fire - a solution to an old alien thought-up puzzle - a spectacular solution that one could hardly miss.

But the date of the fire is not complete - the year is missing!

No, it's not. It is sort of hidden in two names: Seine and Notre Dame. Keyholder, do you feel like taking a shot at it? I give you a little clue: When you switch the first and the last letter in the name of the river, the capital letters say something.

seinE Notre Dame

(See, there are 8 diatonic and 5 chromatic notes in a scale, and it's been 8x5 years...)

4. ## Re: Numerological interpretations of the Notre Dame fire, April 2019

Well pluton, that is an interesting way to apply numerology.
Bringing the river Seine in to this, is a bit different indeed.
I can see that you are pointing at the word "END", which can have a particular meaning here.
1979 in Paris or France? Not sure what you are pointing at there.

I think there are several way to arrive at meaningful information, hidden in different ways here.

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6. ## Re: Numerological interpretations of the Notre Dame fire, April 2019

Posted by Keyholder (here)
Well pluton, that is an interesting way to apply numerology.
Bringing the river Seine in to this, is a bit different indeed.
I can see that you are pointing at the word "END", which can have a particular meaning here.
1979 in Paris or France? Not sure what you are pointing at there.

I think there are several way to arrive at meaningful information, hidden in different ways here.
Well, I see that the clue became actually confusing. But you are right in saying that there maybe different ways to arrive at the same conclusion that would differ from the one expected by the mainstream; that is, the fire of Notre Dame was caused by an accident. But who would be the alternative mysterious agency responsible for the fire? The devil? Or something else? How does the devil think? Is it different from how that "something else" thinks?

You previously established a link through similarity of events:

World Trade Center <-------major fire---------> Notre Dame

Then you used number of days between the dates both events took place to see if that number appears not coincidental. But the result turned out inconclusive. (You know that 666 would probably mean the devil. But what does 6425 stand for?)

Let me explain the link between the year of 1979 and Paris, so you can find the number of days between two related events. The first year mentioned in connection with Notre Dame is 1163.

"The chronicler Jean de Saint-Victor recorded in the Memorial Historiarum that the construction of Notre-Dame began between 24 March and 25 April 1163 with the laying of the cornerstone in the presence of King Louis VII and Pope Alexander III."

In other words, the construction began in the 63rd year of the 12th century. Now, how do you factor 63?

11(63 = 7 x 9)
or
11(63 = 9 x 7)

This question is contained in the number that represents the year 1979.

19(7 9)
19(9 7)

Do you see the similarity between 1979 and 1997?

The similarity means that the domain of connection is "A Shocking News from Paris" and not "A Major Fire in a Large City," which would connect New York and Paris through WTC and Notre Dame. That's because the last shocking news comparable to the current one coming from Paris was in 1997 when Princess Diana sustained fatal injuries during a car crash in the tunnel built under the river Seine.

The point is that if you find the important word DATE messed up to read EDAT instead, the result doesn't have to be due to some accident, as we learned back in 1997 in Paris.

EDAT: LIFE=END=DIANA=ACCIDENT=TUNNEL (the chain rule)

The same goes with the fire of Notre Dame, but you need to provide some statistical evidence that the mainstream is wrong in its judgement and that's not an easy task.

Can you look at the time difference between

August 31, 1997 <--------------> April 15, 2019

to see if you get something more meaningful this time?

7. ## Re: Numerological interpretations of the Notre Dame fire, April 2019

7898 days

Anything meaningful? The 7 and the 9 are in there.
It's true that what happened in Paris with Diana, also shook up the world.
I agree that she could be seen as a "symbol", and she was seen as such by a lot of people.

I am not familiar with interpreting words the way you did. (DATE and EDAT)

63 and 79/97. The centuries are left out there (11 and 19). Not sure what makes you look at the two last digits only.

When thinking of the WTC and the Notre Dame, I was in the first place seeing the "two towers".

The above site (see the link) gives an interesting view about "(two) towers".

Some time ago, I noticed the similarity with "IIII" or 11 11. Twice two towers…
It is of course "easy" to get lost within any "meaning" and come up with a creative sort of confabulation.

Yet, so many very important ideas and inventions came from visions (like when August Kekulé dreamed about the ouroboros and so discovered the structure of benzene).

This is a very interesting field to study in any case.

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9. ## Re: Numerological interpretations of the Notre Dame fire, April 2019

Posted by Keyholder (here)
7898 days

When thinking of the WTC and the Notre Dame, I was in the first place seeing the "two towers".
The above site (see the link) gives an interesting view about "(two) towers".

Some time ago, I noticed the similarity with "IIII" or 11 11. Twice two towers…
It is of course "easy" to get lost within any "meaning" and come up with a creative sort of confabulation.
Aha. The problem is that the Notre Dame towers didn't burn and collapsed, as the WTC towers did, but the link based on the "shocking news from Paris" is indeed complicated case. Moreover, the time difference between August 31, 1997 and April 15, 2019 doesn't return anything eye-catching.

I show you the most straightforward way to link WHAT and WHEN with WHO. That means if you have set on fire the cathedral in Paris and you want to leave evidence that it was actually you and not some accidental spark, then you need to meaningfully encode the information to gain some confidence. After defining the first variable (WHAT) with the name of the cathedral

WHAT = Notre Dame

you establish a well-used symbol for cancellation, because things set on fire are meant to burn down. What kind of symbol would you use?

Look at the upper-right corner of your computer screen. If you want to cancel the current window, you click on X. Now you apply that symbol in the name of the cathedral.

NOTRE x DAME

If you show the above expression to someone, he or she may get curious: What does Notre times Dame mean?

Such reaction is natural, because we also use X as a symbol for multiplication. But we multiply numbers and not names!

The mainstream folks would call this nonsense not being able, as always, to do a simple conversion that the guys who upgraded us from The Stone Age to The Bronze Age would perform handily. They would simply count the number of letters in both the first name and the last name to do the multiplication.

NOTRE x DAME ----> 5 x 4

Since 5 x 4 = 20, you have the first part of the year in which you decide to set Notre Dame on fire - 20##.

But we know that the year of the fire is 2019. Where does that second part, that 19, come from? It has to be meaningfully contained within the whole name of the cathedral for sure. But where is it?

In this case a proper association would help.

1. Notre Dame <----> banana ?
2. Notre Dame <----> cabbage ?
3. Notre Dame <----> God ?

Even the mainstream mind would choose Option 3. See, if the medieval folks didn't regard the existence of God as a fact, there would be no Notre Dame cathedral.

But who is God?

Jesus Christ said in The Bible that God described himself thusly:

I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.
Revelation 22:13

That's interesting. Alpha and Omega are letters... The First and The Last.... Hmm.... Oh, look!

NOTRE DAME

The first and the last letters of the name got highlighted! But what does N and E mean?

Not much, but if you use plus(+) instead of "and" then it surely means something:

N + E = ?

It's like in some junior high. You would be told that N and E are variables that you need to replace with some numbers to arrive at some result.

Obviously so, but what numbers are supposed to replace N and E?

Well, these letters come from the alphabet where N is the 14th letter and E is the 5th letter. That means N=14 and E=5. Plugging the numbers in, you get

N + E = 14 + 5 = 19

where 19 is the second part of the year 2019. So there are just two arguments needed to encode the year of the Notre Dame fire:

notre x dame = 5 x 4 = 20
Notre + damE = 14 + 5 = 19

The second argument leads toward God through the text of Revelation 13:18, and from here to the derivation of the day and the month of the fire leads a simple 17th century scientific assumption.

If God was really responsible, then he would encode his name:
G+O+D = 7+15+4 = 26

Since there are 26 letters in the English alphabet, you turn again toward the letters of the name Notre Dame, split 26 into 2 and 6, and pick the 2nd and the 6th letter.

NOTRE DAME

O is the 15th letter in the alphabet and D is the 4th. That means

O.D = 15.4 ---> 15. April

and that's it. And no - God's mind doesn't work always the mysterious way, as the pretenders of Christian faith in the Vatican like to say.

10. ## Re: Numerological interpretations of the Notre Dame fire, April 2019

I guess the topic was transfered here, because the first post deals with numbers, even though it strays far away from the principle of numerology, which assigns various properties to the numbers from 1 to 9. In the case of Notre Dame, a numerologist takes all letters in the name, turns them into numbers according to the alphabetical order and add them together.

NOTRE DAME --> (14+15+20+18+5)+(4+1+13+5)=95

Having done that, the numerologist breaks the result into single-digit numbers, sums them up again, and repeats the procedure until the result is a single-digit number ranging from 1 to 9.

95 ---> 9+5 ---> 9+5=14
14 ---> 1+4 ---> 1+4 = 5

Reaching a single-digit, in this case number 5, the numerologist consults some reference book, which tells him or her what kind of property number 5 possesses. Here is an example.

Well, that's neat, but how does one apply the interpretation of 5 to a cathedral???

Actually that number 5 can be applied to Notre Dame handily, because 5=E (the 5th letter of the alphabet is E), and there are two E's in the name.

NOTRE DAME

Both E's happen to be the ending letters - they create the end of words Notre and Dame. It follows that a possible end of Notre Dame cathedral is a word that also ends in E.

NOTRE
DAME
_____E ?

Now tell me, sapiens, what that word ending in E could be?

NOTRE
DAME
CATASTROPHE

Well, that's a possibility. But you should be more specific.

NOTRE
DAME
EARTHQUAKE

Sapiens! Are you serious? What was the last time there was an earthquake in Paris!

I don't remember.

NOTRE
DAME
FIRE

Yes, given the overall circumstances, a fire would be a very probable cause of the demise of that cathedral - especially when the scaffolding is up. Uff, I think we take a break...

In the next E-test, things get a little bit more brainy. By passing the test we show that the date of the fire couldn't be a coincidence with respect to the future event.

11. ## Re: Numerological interpretations of the Notre Dame fire, April 2019

Posted by pluton (here)
In the next E-test, things get a little bit more brainy. By passing the test we show that the date of the fire couldn't be a coincidence with respect to the future event.
No, we leave that for later and focus on something more practical.

In the previous post, we saw an example of the huge difference between numerology and the type of communication that the universe speaks to the earthlings. Here is another example related to the Notre Dame fire that starts with the classic numerology method, but then the method deviates to become far more informative. So let's repeat once again from the beginning the procedure that the numerologists use. (A=1, B=2, C=3, ... )

NOTRE DAME ---> (14+15+20+18+5) + (4+1+13+5) = 95

As shown in the previous post, a numerologist will proceed by reducing 95 to a single-digit number ranging from 1 to 9. That's accomplished by breaking 95 into single digits, adding them up and repeating the procedure until a single-digit number remains.

95 ----> 9 and 5 ----> 9+5=14
14 ----> 1 and 4 ----> 1+4=5

Here is the point where the classic numerology ends. Instead of consulting numerological books to find out the "vibration" of number 5, the universe takes into the account both numbers 14 and 5. Could they stand for something meaningful?

Of course they can. Here is an example:

14 and 5 ------> 14. 5. -----> 14. May

You can interpret both numbers as day and month. But the very origin of the date 14. May is NOTRE DAME, the cathedral. And so this date should be significantly tied to the cathedral, like the decision to build it was made on that date. Was it?

Google it as much as you can, you won't find any meaningful link between 14. May and Notre Dame... But if you extend the search to a meaningful date in recent French history, you run into this. Emmanuel Macron became the twenty-fifth acting president of France on 14. May 2017.

Sure, Notre-Dame stands high among all French churches, the same way Macron stands high among all French politicians, but that's about as far as one can get to draw a line between both subjects. But there is one more link and it's based on a similarity: See, there are only two dates (day and month) you can make out of all permutations of 1, 4 and 5. (That means 145, 154, 415, 451, 514, 541.)

145 ----> 14. 5. ----> 14. May
154 ----> 15. 4. ----> 15. April

And that's a link, which needs to be explored, because it is supported by the peek into the future via the Notre Dame disaster.

NOTRE DAME ------> future

Copy the last and the next-to-last letters of the name and solve.

NOTRE DAME -----> E M -------> Emmanuel Macron

Not deterred by the financial crises of 2009 caused by the "banksters," the French folks elected a banker to become their president. What kind of disaster Macron's presidency brings about?

If the universe decides to share this info with us, we will find out ahead of time.

In the next post, we will learn how to peek into a very close future.

12. ## Re: Numerological interpretations of the Notre Dame fire, April 2019

Posted by Keyholder (here)
While watching the fire, I had to think all the time about 9/11.
The "two towers" were - this time - not destroyed, but there was an eerie feeling of "symmetry" to these two events.

I calculated (here on this website:https://www.timeanddate.com/date/dur...&m2=04&y2=2019) the number of days between the two dates (including the first, but not the second) and the number that comes up is

6425

Or: 8²|5²

It is maybe just coincidence… but then again, in instances like this one, how likely is such a coincidence?

And if there is "some meaning" to it, what can or could it be?

This is an event that is too important to "not" have a deeper, hidden meaning, of whatever kind.
Keyholder, you were right to check the time period, but you forgot the option that the UFO effects in the skies often signal in connection with linking significant events; that is, to include both the starting and the ending date into the count. If you had done so, you would have found that the day count is 6426 instead of 6425, and you would have immediately spotted that 6426 is not completely random number due to

6426 ----> 64 = 26

This is a big deal - it really is. We are talking TIROF here - The Islamic Republic of France. But that's also a very hypothetical theme, because the Europe is still predominantly Christian. What is more important now is to relate 6426 to a significant urban fire.

If you look at the two middle digits 6(42)6 forming number 42, you see the "secret" double-digit code for UFO:

U+F+O = 42 (21+6+15=42)

If you proceed by applying the classic numerological rule of splitting 42 into 4 and 2 adding both digits together, you get

42 ---> 4 and 2 ----> 4+2=6

Now look what appears in the middle of 6426 now:

6426 ---> 6(42)6 ---> 666

The notorious number 666 doesn't historically relate to the devil, but to Roman Emperor Nero, who was rumored to set the city of Rome on fire in the year of 64 AD. Once you have this time information available, you see how the number of days between the WTC fire and the Notre Dame fire relate to the first major recorded urban fire in history.

6426 ---> 6426 --->6(4+2)6 ---> 666 ---> Nero

It is a simple, very clever stuff. It's funny to see how the aliens very easily fooled the UFO priests and the SETI PhDs alike into thinking that the aliens are a bunch of retards or that they don't exist at all respectively.

Now the usual leading and ending letters. Remember where number 13 acquired its unlucky flavor - yes, in medieval France.

EMMANUEL MACRON ---> ERON

ERON is an anagram of NERO. It implies that the French prez would be blamed for setting Notre Dame on fire in similar fashion Nero was blamed for the Great Fire of Rome back in 64 AD.

Notre Dame fire was an inside job by Macron's administration to gain support by promising to rebuild it.

See? Or you can visit News and Updates Forum here for other conspiration theory like that.

The rational idea that Macron didn't order the burning of Notre Dame doesn't free him from the distinction of him being one of the most destructive minds that ever ruled France. Hence the Notre Dame fire, which occurred during his presidency.

13. ## Re: Numerological interpretations of the Notre Dame fire, April 2019

Perpetrators of such politically motivated high-profile crimes as the Notre Dame fire know the numerological implications of dates, names, etc., to augment their effects.

Numerological values of 911 haven't been cleared (to my knowledge) just like 311 in 2011 which lead to Fukushima disaster, which was a major act of terrorism

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