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    Quote Medical Choice is Freedom
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    Vaccine choice doesn’t only apply to vax-free children. For those of you supporting stricter mandates—you may be currently utilizing the SAME medical choice that’s on the chopping block and not even realize it.

    According to the CDC (source links in the first comment):

    ✅ 73.1% of adults (18-49) OPT-OUT of the flu vaccine. 3 out of 4 adults—parents of school-aged children (where stricter mandates are being proposed)—used their own medical CHOICE and decided NOT to get the vaccine last year due to low efficacy and reported side effects.

    ✅ 15% of parents OPT-OUT of the chicken pox vaccine for their child because many feel chicken pox is a mild childhood virus, and not risky enough to require a vaccine.

    ✅ 51% of teens OPT-OUT of the full HPV series. Half of U.S. teens and their parents utilize medical CHOICE each year by deciding NOT to get the full vaccine series due to the reported risks and adverse reactions associated with the vaccine.

    ✅ 10% of parents OPT-OUT of the Hepatitis B vaccine for their child because many parents do not agree with giving a newborn/infant 3 doses of a vaccine for a sexually-transmitted disease that is not transmitted through casual contact.

    Did any of the above scenarios👆include you? Have you EVER skipped a dose...ever? What if you couldn’t. People don’t seem to realize they are exercising VACCINE CHOICE every single time they decline *even one dose* of a “recommended vaccine”. More and more of the CDC recommended doses are becoming mandated for school entry, or as a condition of employment. Because every single body is unique, medicine—including vaccines—should not be universally prescribed. And because there is guaranteed harm to a certain percentage of individuals, medicine—including vaccines—should never be mandated.

    To Recap: Most Americans are selectively vaccinating themselves or their children. The majority of adults are nowhere near “up to date” on the the CDC adult schedule, and many pro-vaccine parents opt-out of certain doses for their children. Removing exemptions with stricter mandates takes away that right to opt-out of even one dose, so you may want to think twice before lending your support to one of the dozens of bills popping up all over the country. This is bigger than simply believing in vaccines. You can be pro-vaccine and still support medical choice—it’s one of our most fundamental rights.

    Medical choice works for all of us...even you. 👍
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    Medical treatment is the 3rd leading cause of death in the US and hospitals are very dangerous environments due to Nosocomial Infections. In this thread there are other posts that reveal reported deaths form measles were not because of measles by itself.

    Quote Media Misreports Death of El Al Flight Attendant
    by Marco Cáceres


    Many media outlets that reported the death of Israeli flight attendant Rotem Amitai on Aug. 13, 2019 published articles with headlines that either stated she died of measles or implied as much. The Times of Israel headline, for example, read, “Flight attendant who died from measles named as Rotem Amitai.” The United Kingdom’s Daily Mail published an article titled, “Israeli flight attendant DIES from measles five months after falling ill following New York to Tel Aviv flight.”1 2

    Yahoo! reported, “An Israeli Flight Attendant Just Died of Measles After Contracting the Disease 5 Months Ago.” The New York Daily News reported, “Israeli flight attendant dies of measles, 3rd fatality from virus there in 15 years.” Both the BBC and WebMD bluntly stated, “Israeli Flight Attendant Dies of Measles.”3 4 5 6

    The more subtle headlines included ones like CNN’s “Israeli flight attendant dies after contracting measles” and “Flight attendant diagnosed with measles after flying from New York has died” by CBS News. There were many other similar headlines from publications that are generally respected and considered to be reputable such as Newsweek, The Washington Post and TIME.7 8 9 10 11

    The problem is that it appears likely that Rotem Amitai’s cause of death was far more complicated than her measles infection. While it may seem reasonable to attribute the death of someone to measles when there is an outbreak and authorities are doing everything possible to boost vaccination rates, including threatening to fine people for noncompliance and roll back legal exemptions to vaccination, it is still important for journalists to get the facts of a story straight.

    What many media outlets failed to report in articles about Amitai’s death is not only that she died of meningoencephalitis—inflammation of the brain and the tissue surrounding the brain and spinal cord—but that it was likely caused by a bacterial infection which Amitai contracted at the Meir Medical Center (photo) in Kfar Saba, Israel where she was admitted for a fever related to a measles infection.12 13 14 15

    According to a news report by Israel’s Galley Zahal (Army radio) in April 2019:

    [Rotem Amitai] does not just suffer from measles, she contracted an infectious bacterium during her hospitalization. The [emergency room] doctor said that, right now, there isn’t any medical diagnosis that unequivacally proves that her health was aggravated by the infection. But, according to the Ministry of Health data, every year 4,000 to 6,000 people die in Israel as a direct result of hospital infections. Report on the infection with the bacteria was transferred to the [Ministry of Health].15

    The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimates that one in 31 hospital patients has “at least one healthcare-associated infection” (HAI) a day. Of the estimated 1.7 million people who are infected with pathogens in U.S. hospitals every year, at least 99,000 of them die from those infections.16 17

    Among the more aggressive, deadly and difficult to treat bacteria contracted in hospitals are methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA), Clostridioides difficile (C diff), vancomycin-resistant enterococci (VRE) and carbapenem-resistant Enterobacteriaceae (CRE) and carbapenem-resistant Klebsiella pneumoniae (CRKP).17
    And the promotors of bills like sb 276 are spreading misinformation as in this clip. The worst part is apparently getting a DPT vaccination makes one even at greater risk for harm FROM PERTUSSIS for life.

    Listen to this great video that I am bumping here. Segment on DPT at 50:27

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    Anyone think about all the money the western nations have put into vaccines in africa? For the last 500 years they have done nothing but stomp those people down and extract every ounce of wealth from that place bleeding it dry, and now they are gonna put up red cross tents everywhere, vaccinate every black face they see because they care so much about them, I dont think so. If vaccines were so great then africa would be the last place they would be doing it.

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    More evidence that medical providers will NOT write medical exemptions. The chill is working.....

    Quote Anti-Vaccination Group Calls for DOJ Investigation into SB 276
    POSTED 6:45 PM, SEPTEMBER 5, 2019, BY DOUG JOHNSON


    see video coverage here

    This is from Fox40 in Sacramento

    SACRAMENTO -- A day after the state Senate gave final approval on Senate Bill 276, which tightens the rules for school medical exemptions for children, some groups are calling for a federal investigation into how it was created.

    Drawing dozens to the North Steps of the State Capitol Thursday, the anti-vaccination group Advocates for Physicians’ Rights called on the Department of Justice to investigate the passage of SB 276.

    “Full-scale investigation of the county health officers, medical doctors, nurses and other licensed professionals who appear to have engaged in a multi-year campaign engineered to end-run and/or violate a multitude of federal and state laws,” said attorney Leigh Dundas with Advocates for Physicians’ Rights.

    Dundas said some state officials broke federal privacy laws by trying to pass around vaccination exemption records while creating the bill.

    “All of a sudden there’s all these ‘aye’ votes that were ‘nay’ votes before,” said Josh Coleman, the co-founder of the campaign “V is for Vaccine.” “So people are frustrated and so right now they’re posted up.”

    Since the Senate gave final approval on Wednesday, anti-vaccination protestors have been chanting and holding signs in front of Gov. Gavin Newsom’s office.

    “Governor Newsom’s staff came out yesterday and talked to some of the activists but we want to go right to Newsom. We want to talk to him personally,” Coleman told FOX40.

    The governor’s office has asked the bill’s author, Sen. Richard Pan, for additional amendments so that individual exemptions will not be released in public records requests.

    Senator Pan has told FOX40 in the past the reason behind the bill is the number of medical exemptions granted in California has more than quadrupled since 2015.

    Newsom’s office would also like doctors who grant too many exemptions to be able to appeal.

    However, Coleman said he fears Newsom will ultimately sign the bill into law.

    “The last thing I’ll do is have (my children) vaccinated,” Coleman said.

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    Quote Posted by Delight (here)
    Quote AutismOne Media
    Published on Jun 6, 2019
    This lecture separates fact from fiction in the current debate over measles. It addresses what herd immunity is and what it is not, in both the pre-vaccine and vaccine eras. It examines the consequences - real and potential - for vaccines that do not reproduce natural immunity. It addresses the question of should we fear measles and if so, why?

    Andrew Wakefield, MBBS

    Wakefield has been likened to the Dreyfus of his generation, a doctor falsely accused of scientific and medical misconduct, whose discoveries opened up entirely new perceptions of childhood autism, the gut-brain link, and vaccine safety. As an 'insider', the price for his discoveries and his refusal to walk away from the issues they raised, was swift and brutal, with loss of job, career, reputation, honours, colleagues, and country. And yet he enjoys a huge and growing support from around the world.

    Wakefield's stance made him a trusted place for whistleblowers from government and industry to confess and 'download'. He has extraordinary stories to share.

    Wakefield is now an award-winning filmmaker. Despite elaborate attempts at censorship, his documentary VAXXED – the revelations of a vaccine scientist at the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention- changed the public mindset on the truth about vaccine safety.

    Wakefield's is a story that starts with professional trust in the instincts of mothers, choice and consequences, a quest for truth, and perseverance against overwhelming odds.
    Bumping this as it is critical thinking about the the overall picture of the consequences of interference in natural processes with vaccination.

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    Quote Health Freedom Idaho
    · From a microbiologist: John Dorman, PhD


    “I do believe that a vaccine can, under some circumstances, provide temporary ‘immunity’ or protection from an infectious pathogen, however that is where my faith in inoculation ends. Vaccines were never intended to be the first-line of defense against infectious disease nor were they intended to be provided under such an aggressive immunization schedule. As most of you are aware, the development of modern sanitation has contributed far more to limit the spread of disease than the vaccine.

    My greatest issue with the current vaccine schedule is that it fuels the fire of viral mutation. Consider the 2015 measles outbreak at Disneyland. It had nothing to do with the un-vaccinated, but rather a very simple process of an accelerated morbillivirus mutation. Why do you think we alter the flu vaccine every year? Viruses mutate naturally, but do so at a greatly accelerated rate when threatened by the antigens provided through the vaccination process. At some point the rate of mutation will surpass our ability to develop a vaccine. If this occurs there will be nothing left to stem the advance of the disease.

    And herd immunity is grossly misunderstood. True herd immunity can only result from a healthy, fully functioning immune system. Vaccines cannot confer “herd immunity” because vaccines only stimulate one of the two essential elements of the immune system. In the vaccinated, the body’s natural immune response is impaired, and the antibodies are not as strong as they would have been had the virus passed through the immune system in a ‘natural’ manner, therefore leading to an ever-increasing reliance on developing more vaccinations.

    Unfortunately, the immune response mounted by the vaccine is enough to trigger mutation in the attacking virus. I too want herd immunity, but it will never be achieved through vaccination. Why are so many booster shots necessary to bring antibody titers up to serologically acceptable levels? Does this not indicate that our current science does not yet allow us to formulate an injection that mimics naturally acquired and lifelong immunity? The current truth is it is impossible to create permanent immunity through the artificial induction of a vaccine.

    Many of the infectious diseases we immunize against are simply a result of poor hygiene and or septic recycling systems, unnatural diets, metabolic congestion (especially liver) and persistent immune suppression via pharmaceuticals. These infections are natural in these environments and in many cases, designed and created by and within the body itself to carry out a janitorial duty by infecting and removing all cells of poor integrity so the body can be revitalized by their new replacements. There is enough evidence to prove that vaccines diminish the integrity of every cell in the body and exacerbate the need for a deeper, more widespread infection at a future time.

    Mass vaccination is, in my opinion, bad science at best and will eventually lay waste to any natural immunity of humans at worst. The only way to ensure lasting and permanent immunity is through a truly healthy “herd” which is the complete antithesis of a drug dependent population that find themselves unable to fight any infection naturally. First, we abuse the antibiotic and witness the birth of the super-bug. A mutated strain 100% drug resistant and now through the abuse and overuse of the vaccine we are forcing the antigenic drift and accelerated mutation of the virus.

    And for proof? I have compiled much research over the years, but it is not possible to point you to a single study or a ‘smoking gun’. It took me several years to unravel the dogma that I was taught and accepted early in my career.
    I don’t know all the answers, but I am certain we are not asking enough of the right questions. I know many doctors, nurses, researchers, chemists and fellow microbiologist who do not “tow the party line” when it comes to the “science” of vaccines. The science is not settled and anyone in the medical community who attempts to convince you otherwise is either willfully deceitful or woefully ignorant. We have chosen to roll the dice and gamble with our health.

    What will save us from disease when this Ponzi scheme of mass vaccination and symptom management collapses? I fear we will be left with nothing to defend ourselves against invading pathogens because we all chose to remain ignorant rather than integrate the truth while we still had a chance. Because we chose to consume antibiotics like candy and prescribe them for everything under the sun...we chose to believe that vaccination would magically provide us immunity because many of us were too lazy to learn how to build immunity naturally through diet and lifestyle or to learn the symptoms of environmental poisoning. We chose to numb the pain instead of addressing the cause of the pain. All of these short-sighted decisions will eventually circle back around and bite us all in the collective arse.

    I truly hope we all wake up soon.”

    Microbiologist John Dorman, PhD
    Comment from Alex Coulter: Thank you for this. Very well said. We can expect diseases to get more and more virulent as a result of the Ponzi scheme of mass immunization (and overuse of antibiotics). The result will be, of course: Blame The Unvaccinated.

    My sentiments are expressed here but I would add expect the Med Industry Complex to use the failure as a reason to dose ever more aggressively. I have never seen any signs of acknowledging wrong steps. The establishment of the hubris that there are elite authorities who can do no wrong works.

    IMO we absolutely MUST just stop using these systems in order to starve them. That is why we MUST rise up to prevent mandatory vaccinations.

    It's time now to realize it is our life and death and come together over protecting CHOICE!!!!!!!!!!!..............

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    When you do a little history tracing, big pharma in the US came from the Rockefeller's. His first job was he was a "Snake oil" salesman. Snake oil ingredients were a hodgepodge of things but quite a bit in it was OIL. Interesting enough many of today's drugs are petroleum based. Thus his big interest in oil.
    He probably learned you buy off the sheriff so the people don't get after you for making them ill after taking the snake oil.
    Thus the creation of the FDA, the present time sheriff for big pharma.

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    This is from 2015 and now in 2019 the fruits are falling from the tree.....

    "MD Suzanne Humphries in Copenhagen Denmark november 2015.

    Manufactured Consent.
    A speak about manufactured information given to the public from authorities regarding vaccination and health.
    Dr. Humphries speaks about the measles outbreak in California, vaccine legislations, corrupt scientists and how fear is used to get parents to make decisions about their children's vaccinations and health."










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    This is just infuriating in so many ways and needs hearing....

    Christina Hildebrand Informs us on CA. BILLS SB276, SB714 and AB283 9/7/19


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    Quote "NorthWestLibertyNews
    Streamed live 9/8/2019
    The Complete Loss of Freedom: California's SB 276 is the Model for Nationwide Enslavement

    Human Rights Attorney Leigh Dundas and Director of Media Relations Debby Schaefer from Advocates For Physicians’ Rights join me live to discuss California's SB 276, a bill that aims to remove the majority of vaccine medical exemptions in California, following other bills going through and on the docket across the nation.

    Advocates For Physicians’ Rights - California-based nonprofit lobbying group set up exclusively for the social welfare and protection of physician and patient rights."


    Quote California Medical Exemption Update - Christina Hildebrand, A Voice For Choice | Richard Sacks

    Lost Arts Radio Show on Sunday 9/8/19

    Listen online: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/lostarts...

    In June of 2015, when SB 277 in California threatened to take away parents' rights to decide whether or not to have their children vaccinated in order to attend school, we were looking for the most informative guests who could fill in the details of the issues involved. Christina Hildebrand, founder of A Voice For Choice, was one of the best to come on the show (https://youtu.be/GDP9Rdj76Xw). Now, just past four years later, another California bill, SB 276, is set to take away the medical exemption in California, which is already very hard to acquire, and only a few California doctors are brave enough to give them where they clearly apply, because of the retribution they will face from pro-forced vaccine groups backed by government and industry.

    Christina now has two related organizations, http://www.avoiceforchoice.org and a http://www.avoiceforchoiceadvocacy.org, and is working hard to save medical exemptions for residents of California. Besides having her own children to care for and two businesses to run (http://www.cei-research.com and http://www.realfoodbayarea.com), Christina has organized a campaign to connect with state legislators and educate both them and their constituents about health freedom. What better person to come back on the show and bring us up to date on the fate of SB276 in California, and she will be with us this Sunday. I hope you'll be there too.
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    The 112-Year Odyssey of Pertussis and Pertussis Vaccines—Mistakes Made and Implications for the Future
    James D Cherry
    Journal of the Pediatric Infectious Diseases Society, piz005,

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    Quote Abstract
    Effective diphtheria, tetanus toxoids, whole-cell pertussis (DTwP) vaccines became available in the 1930s, and they were put into routine use in the United States in the 1940s. Their use reduced the average rate of reported pertussis cases from 157 in 100 000 in the prevaccine era to <1 in 100 000 in the 1970s. Because of alleged reactions (encephalopathy and death), several countries discontinued (Sweden) or markedly decreased (United Kingdom, Germany, Japan) use of the vaccine. During the 20th century, Bordetella pertussis was studied extensively in animal model systems, and many “toxins” and protective antigens were described. A leader in B pertussis research was Margaret Pittman of the National Institutes of Health/US Food and Drug Administration. She published 2 articles suggesting that pertussis was a pertussis toxin (PT)-mediated disease. Dr Pittman’s views led to the idea that less-reactogenic acellular vaccines could be produced. The first diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis (DTaP) vaccines were developed in Japan and put into routine use there. Afterward, DTaP vaccines were developed in the Western world, and definitive efficacy trials were carried out in the 1990s. These vaccines were all less reactogenic than DTwP vaccines, and despite the fact that their efficacy was less than that of DTwP vaccines, they were approved in the United States and many other countries. DTaP vaccines replaced DTwP vaccines in the United States in 1997. In the last 13 years, major pertussis epidemics have occurred in the United States, and numerous studies have shown the deficiencies of DTaP vaccines, including the small number of antigens that the vaccines contain and the type of cellular immune response that they elicit. The type of cellular response a predominantly, T2 response results in less efficacy and shorter duration of protection. Because of the small number of antigens (3–5 in DTaP vaccines vs >3000 in DTwP vaccines), linked-epitope suppression occurs. Because of linked-epitope suppression, all children who were primed by DTaP vaccines will be more susceptible to pertussis throughout their lifetimes, and there is no easy way to decrease this increased lifetime susceptibility.
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    Lots of protest at the CA state capital

    Quote Vaccine bill critics swarm Sacramento as effort to scrutinize child exemptions moves forward
    LA Times
    By MELODY GUTIERREZ
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    SEP. 9, 2019



    SACRAMENTO — The California Assembly passed changes on Monday to a contentious bill that would crack down on school vaccine exemptions, taking action as protesters spent hours loudly chanting outside the office of Gov. Gavin Newsom and blocking key entrances to the state Capitol.
    Senate Bill 714 by Sen. Richard Pan (D-Sacramento) retools legislation sent to Newsom last week, SB 276, in a deal that was struck in response to the governor’s concerns about the original proposal. Together the bills would create state oversight of medical exemptions for vaccines required to attend public and private schools, as well as day care centers. SB 714 passed the Assembly 43-14 on Monday and now heads to the Senate, which could take up the bill as early as today.

    After the vote in the Assembly, protesters shut down the floor session with chants of “protect our children” as lawmakers hurriedly left the chamber.

    California already has some of the nation’s tightest childhood immunization laws, allowing doctors to excuse children , either temporarily or permanently, from some or all vaccinations if there is a medical reason.

    The bill’s supporters have alleged that a handful of doctors are writing unnecessary exemptions, prompting lawmakers to introduce SB 276 to create state oversight of the process. Last week, Newsom unexpectedly withdrew his pledge to sign the bill, instead asking for a major overhaul of the legislation that his office called “technical — but important.”

    The requested changes, which were put into SB 714, call for delaying when some medical exemptions would be reviewed by the state, but also invalidate medical exemptions written by doctors who have faced disciplinary action, regardless of whether the punishment was related to immunizations.

    Opponents of the vaccine bills had hoped Newsom would loosen guidelines on who would qualify for medical exemptions under SB 276, or that the governor’s reluctance was a signal he would veto the bill. Instead, the companion bill seemed to anger anti-vaccine activists, who have remained a fixture outside the governor’s office.

    On Monday morning, three women were detained for blocking the garage entrance to the Capitol, which is used by lawmakers as protests continued outside the statehouse.

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    “SB 714 did not make the underlying bill better; in many respects it made it much worse,” said Leigh Dundas of the opposition group Advocates for Physicians’ Rights.

    Hundreds of parents have protested the bill since it was introduced this year, arguing that it would interfere with the doctor-patient relationship and that the restrictions would make doctors hesitant to write new medical exemptions.

    “Even with your amendments, I do not believe I will be writing any more exemptions, even when I feel like they would be appropriate,” said Dr. Dane Fliedner, an Aliso Viejo pediatrician specializing in holistic medicine, in a letter to Newsom. “I do not believe anyone else will either ... I have had to put a complete moratorium on medical exemptions due to the nature of this legislation.”

    Under SB 714, medical exemptions written before Jan. 1 would not come under state scrutiny until a child needs a new one. New medical exemptions would be required when a child enters kindergarten, seventh grade or changes schools. The provision lays out checkpoints similar to those used when the state phased out the use of vaccine exemptions based on personal or religious beliefs in 2015.

    The state would also restrict temporary vaccine exemptions to a one-year timeline.

    While the protests have played out prominently in the Capitol, there remains strong support for requiring children to be immunized to attend schools. A statewide survey in May by the nonpartisan Public Policy Institute of California found 73% of adults believe parents should be required to vaccinate their children.

    The bills come amid the worst measles outbreak in more than 20 years, with more than 1,200 people diagnosed with the disease this year in the United States.

    CALIFORNIAPOLITICSCALIFORNIA LAW & POLITICS
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    This may sound stupid but I had a bit of a question/dilemma:

    The center I go to is offering free flu shots. I thought about this thread and declined. They reminded me of my somewhat frail state, how much easier it would be for me to contract the flu and I felt pressured into agreeing with them. Are my chances of being negatively effected less as an adult? I'm not trying to be an asshole or petty or any other negative connotation, I just honestly don't know and was looking for some feedback from some knowledgeable mates.

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    Quote Posted by RogueEllis (here)
    This may sound stupid but I had a bit of a question/dilemma:

    The center I go to is offering free flu shots. I thought about this thread and declined. They reminded me of my somewhat frail state, how much easier it would be for me to contract the flu and I felt pressured into agreeing with them. Are my chances of being negatively effected less as an adult? I'm not trying to be an asshole or petty or any other negative connotation, I just honestly don't know and was looking for some feedback from some knowledgeable mates.
    I don't know if I'm 'knowledgeable', I can only tell you that I'm 72 and I've never taken the offer of a flu shot. Actually I can't remember ever having had the flu, a real one. Yes an ordinary cold with some sneezing and coughing, but not with fever or other flu symptoms.

    My Dad took the shot only once, when he was in his 70s. That's the only time he got the flu...... He was a healthy man and never ill. So he never took the shot again. Nor did my mom. Never. My dad died 3 years ago at the age of 96 and my mom last year at the age of 94. Perhaps because they never got any kind of shots or vaccinations ??? They had an unspoiled immune system, that's for sure.

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    When we know the nefarious plans of the CORRUPT DEMOCRATS running California we can make accurate predictions about future legislation. These vaccine industry reps have only one goal in mind: the forced vaccination of every man, woman and child on the planet, with California leading the way as a beacon of tyranny for all of the world to see. Homeschooled children MUST be force vaccinated to make way for *adult vaccine mandates.* Mandates must happen in the correct sequence. California Democrats WILL enact such legislation no matter how big of a fight is mounted against this plan. My warning about MEs going away began 2 years ago. I am again giving you fair waring that homeschoolers will be required to vaccinate their children - do not think protesting at the Capitol will stop corrupt Democrats from enacting this legislation. Again, THE WRITING IS ON THE WALL. Plan accordingly and do not be lulled into a false sense of security - corruption does not listen to reason. Corruption follows an agenda, and the agenda is to force vaccinate us all.

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    RFK Jr mic-dropping speech marks birth of a new civil rights movement vis-à-vis the rise of the medical police state

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    While California's tragic fall into what might rightly be described as a Medical Police State has many up in arms, RFK Jr's spontaneously delivered speech outside Gov. Newsom's office helped transform the anger and grief experienced by thousands of shaken onlookers into inspiration and hope, no doubt contributing to catalyzing further what is clearly becoming this country's next, truly grassroots civil (and human) rights movement.

    Following immediately after the California Senate passed SB 276 in Sacramento on Monday, which effectively removes medical exemptions in the state (even for those with previous life-threatening reactions to vaccines), a protest erupted at the state capital in front of Gov. Newsom's office, who would sign the bill later that day. Earlier, five protestors were arrested for exercising their First Amendment right of peaceful protest — a painful irony, considering that the removal of religious exemptions also violates the First Amendment rights, which is why they were protesting in the first place.

    In the astoundingly powerful and uplifting speech by RFK Jr below, one senses the historical importance of what just transpired. The fall of California into medical fascism also marks the beginning of a new, broad-based civil rights movement which includes all sexes, races, walks of life, religions, and socioeconomic classes — as it concerns the primary, inviolable human right of bodily self-sovereignty and health freedom, and a parent's right to make informed health choices for their children, which can have life and death consequences.

    The fight for liberty and health freedom in California is far from over. There will be legal challenges, said RFK Jr, all the way up to the Supreme Court, if necessary. In fact, this incident brings to the forefront a deep, dark problem in the United States that has been festering for decades: the rise of the pharmaceutical industry's influence on the government to mandate products that the free market would otherwise reject, due to the profound liability these products have (underwritten completely by the government via their indemnification through the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Compensation Act (the ACT) of 1986). Now, over three decades since the inception of the ACT, that same industry is starting to use the police powers of the state to enforce these mandates.



    California is a testing ground and the blueprint for the rest of the country. How much will the American people consent to forced medical interventions and related coercion necessary to push through a national and global agenda of universal compliance with an ever-expanding vaccination schedule? Florida is next on the chopping block, with the introduction of SB 64, which would reproduce CA's situation, but with one bill. Learn more here: The Medical Police State Metastasizes to FL: SB 64 Removes Religious Exemption for Vaccination, Threatens Medical.

    To get updates and action items, please follow and support the following non-profit organizations:
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    Finnish Citizens Conduct Own Vaccine Safety Study and Question Health Authorities Letting 12-Year-Olds Make Own Decisions About HPV Vaccine without Parental Consent



    Vaccine Safety News from Finland to SaneVax

    by SaneVax, Inc.

    Citizens disagree with Finnish health authorities regarding the safety profile of vaccines based on an internet-based questionnaire conducted by a local patient support group.

    A support group comprised of vaccine-injured and their families in Finland circulated an internet-based questionnaire to find out if there could be an association between vaccinations and healthy children or adolescents/adults falling ill.

    Once the results were compiled and analyzed, it was impossible for them to find a medical professional willing to help them get the results published in a peer-reviewed medical journal.

    They contacted academics from their own country and abroad. All of those contacts agreed that the study has been conducted well and that it deserved to be published, but none of them were willing to co-author the manuscript because of the controversial nature of the topic.

    In other words, they were afraid of being bullied and losing their position.

    In addition, the parents contacted and shared their results with leading health officials and politicians in order to promote honest public scientific discussion regarding vaccine safety in Finland. Since this did not lead to any concrete actions, the parents completed a literature search on their own as well as translating their abstract and full study report to English by themselves. Both are attached below.

    In short, 129 injured persons, or their caretaker completed the questionnaire (incl. 33 items of detailed, multiple-choice questions). Results of the survey concluded:
    ”Based on this questionnaire survey the temporal association between vaccinations and the onset of multifaceted neurological and neuropsychiatric symptoms is evident. It is unlikely that this finding would be only a coincidence since similar cases as observed in this study (around all parts of Finland) have been reported also elsewhere in the world (1-6). The true causality is supported also by the emerging number of research papers published the medical literature (e.g. 7, 8) according to which aluminum and other vaccine ingredients may cause multi-path autoimmune diseases.”
    Finnish authorities denied even the possibility of true causality and, thus, have not considered necessary any public discussions or actions that would help the injured in any way. They claim e.g. that HPV-vaccines are safe based on their own nationwide register cohort study and neglect the results of the internet-based questionnaire conducted by Finnish parents, who have questioned the reliability of the authorities’ study, published in Vaccine Journal (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30115524).

    The injured and their families have heavily criticized the authority driven register-based study stating HPV-vaccines are safe. Instead of counting how many previously healthy persons become seriously sick after vaccination the authorities chose only selected diagnoses for their statistical analyses.

    Taken that most of the affected persons suffer from several different symptoms with varying severity along time and that the persons experiencing similar symptoms may have different diagnoses, the negative association found by the authorities did not come as a surprise to the parents. In parents opinion, this kind of study design and statistical analysis is not reliable.

    The peer support group of Finnish families have undergone a fierce debate with their national authorities and main policymakers as they wrote in the following letter to SaneVax:
    Dear President of Sanevax,

    We are writing to you on behalf of over 200 Finns, who signed the complaint on the poor management of suspected vaccine injuries to our national authorities. The report of our internet-based questionnaire was attached to the complaint and by now it is available also in English language (attached to this letter). Next, we try to explain in short what we have done to get help to hundreds of persons with ’mysterious’ symptoms.

    On May 2018 we sent a letter (with over 200 signatures) to all authorities that are responsible for the situation of vaccine-injured people and their maltreatment. We asked them to help these families. Our mission was to show with the results of our Questionnaire, how similar the affected persons’ situations and symptoms are, and also how nobody gets help. Doctors don´t admit vaccine injury, they don´t know how to diagnose those symptoms and they don´t give any treatments or compensation, either. We also asked questions, how ethical is it to give HPV-vaccine without informed consent and to advertise it is safe and effective and leave the decision to 12 years old girls? We asked for a meeting where we could come together to start a conversation and try to find some solutions.

    The leader of National Institute for Health and Welfare, The Minister of Social Welfare and Health, The Minister of Family Affairs and Social Services, The Director-General of Finnish Social Insurance Institution and The Director of Finnish Medicines Agency got our letter. They answered to us that there is nothing to worry about, everything is under control and that they have just made a big study, where they have proven that the HPV-vaccine is very safe and effective. They pointed to their nationwide register-based cohort study (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30115524). It was a very shameful answer, not only because we didn´t talk only about HPV-vaccine injured children and adolescents, but also about healthy adults, who were injured after numerous different vaccinations.

    When we got their last email, we decided to send a complaint to Finnish Chancellor of Justice. We complained regarding these authorities and problems in the National Vaccine program. The complaint was left on the 2nd of November 2018.

    A few weeks ago, we got a very disappointing answer from the Chancellor of Justice; He is not going to take our case under his investigation!! He gave a statement, that he can´t estimate the safety of vaccines and he hasn´t noticed any procedure that could be against the law or any failures of duty.

    Nevertheless, we are not going to give up, since our own lives and our children’s lives are at stake. We wish to do our part to increase the general awareness among ordinary people by sharing our story and the results of our survey with as many people as possible. Thus, we would be grateful if the English version of our study report would be published on Sanevax site. The original report (written in the Finnish language) will be published in Finnish social media.

    With kind regards on behalf of over 200 signers,

    Elina Vuorenmaa, Saara Seittenranta, Tiina Koistinen, Päivi Tuominen, Päivi Ketolainen, Risto Ahonen.
    Access the abstract here.
    Access the complete paper here.
    Access the questions included in the survey here.
    Read the full article at SaneVax.org.
    Comment on this article at VaccineImpact.com.
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    Occupy Sacramento...

    Rally at CA State Capitol

    Quote It’s the last day of Occupy the Sacramento Capitol and we are exhausted. A total of 26 weeks for Tara Thornton and months for Heidi Light and myself.
    We have worked together like a well oiled machine , trusting the instincts of one another and going with what felt was right.
    Getting on those chairs because we were tired of being backed up against a wall and we knew in our gut the new civil rights movement was here.. timing is everything
    As a group we have done what we could to help families position themselves to be ready for anything, we have left our families for weeks because in the trenches is where everything starts.
    Today I will finally see my son after 2 weeks, Tara and Heidi will finally go home to their babies and we are mentally checked out for the weekend.
    We want to say thank you to the families that packed up their car and kids to make the trip to Sacramento and find their righteous rage. We won’t stop, we must keep the momentum going.
    Next week it’s operation occupy your districts! Be ready.

    September 26th - court date for the mamas and dad who were arrested- Operation No Parents Left Behind. We will occupy the court room to show our support

    Today at 1:30 - rally on the South side of the capitol against mandatory vaccines
    Today at 6:00- closing ceremony for thanks and support to our families
    Today at 8:00 - vigil for those affected by these draconian bills.
    It’s going to be a packed day

    January 7th Operation We Are Back 😁 first day back of legislative session and they thought we were going away 🤫

    We will see you soon ! ( moving like snails- we gotta dig a little deeper for what’s left )https://www.facebook.com/permalink.p...00004629017551
    SUDDENLY in many states, there are bills sprouting up to march the agenda forward and a push at the Federal level.....

    Quote Morelle pushing for Congress to take up child vaccine legislation
    by WHAM
    Friday, September 13th 2019


    Congressman Joe Morelle announced two bills on the federal level that aim to ensure children are vaccinated before attending public schools. (KOMO photo)

    Rochester, N.Y. (WHAM) – Congressman Joe Morelle announced two bills on the federal level that aim to ensure children are vaccinated before attending public schools.

    The Democrat was in Rochester on Friday to advocate for the VACCINES Act and Vaccinate All Children Act. The two pieces of legislation aim to increase public awareness of vaccination benefits and make sure every child going to public school are able to receive vaccinations.

    “One of the greatest threats facing our families is the rapid and dangerous spread of misinformation around the safety of vaccines,” Morelle said at a news conference held Friday at the Strong National Museum of Play.

    The spread of misinformation on the Internet regarding immunization has led to outbreaks of diseases and viruses in recent years, such as measles. If passed, the VACCINES Act would authorize funds for the CDC to increase public awareness on the benefits of immunizations and research why people are hesitant about vaccines.

    Preventative health service grants would be awarded to states under the Vaccinate All Children Act, as long as the states prohibit religious and non-medical exemptions for students being vaccinated for public schools.

    "As a pediatrician, I have seen babies die from diseases that are now preventable through immunizations," said Dr. Jeff Kaczorowski, pediatrician and Senior Advisor at The Children’s Agenda. "We have a responsibility as adults to make sure our kids and communities are safe and healthy."

    Earlier this year, New York repealed the religious exemption for vaccinations. Only medical exemptions are allowed currently. All 50 states require vaccinations for children to attend school.
    Quote Lamont, health commissioner will support repeal of state’s religious vaccine exemption
    HEALTHby JENNA CARLESSOSEPTEMBER 13, 2019VIEW AS "CLEAN READ"

    Gov. Ned Lamont is expected to publicly support a repeal on the state’s religious exemption to vaccines Monday.

    After months of prodding by lawmakers to take a stance on repealing Connecticut’s religious exemption from vaccines, state Health Commissioner Renee Coleman-Mitchell is expected to announce Monday that she is supporting the rollback.

    Coleman-Mitchell will be joined by Gov. Ned Lamont, who also is backing the repeal. Their disclosure will come two weeks after the public health department released data showing the number of students who claimed the religious exemption rose by 25% between the 2017-18 and 2018-19 school years.

    “I’ve always thought that it was important to have the Department of Public Health weigh in, so I’m glad they are weighing in in a very detailed way,” House Majority Leader Matthew Ritter, a proponent of wiping out the religious exemption, said Friday.

    Ritter and other Democratic legislative leaders wrote a letter to Coleman-Mitchell in June asking whether the legislature should abolish the exemption. The commissioner said she would respond, but months passed without an answer. Senate President Pro Tem Martin Looney recently expressed frustration about the delay, saying the commissioner had not been responsive.

    Ritter, Looney and other legislative leaders have been invited to attend Monday’s announcement.

    “I expect a response next week to our letter and I am told it is very, very detailed, which I appreciate,” Ritter said.

    Supporters of the plan to repeal the religious exemption see Lamont and Coleman-Mitchell’s backing as a crucial step forward in their fight. After this year’s attempts to end the exemption fizzled, they pledged to revive the issue during the next legislative session.

    “This goes a long way,” Ritter said of Lamont’s endorsement. “It’s something that you need. You need the governor of the state of Connecticut to come out and say this what we’re going to do. He’s the leader that people look to. So I think it’s an important step in terms of the bill passing.”

    GOVERNOR'S OFFICE

    Public Health Commissioner Renee Coleman-Mitchell, who has been reluctant to offer an opinion on the subject, is expected to take a position Monday.

    Spokesmen for Lamont and Coleman-Mitchell declined to comment Friday.

    Senate Minority Leader Len Fasano, R-North Haven, could not be reached.

    Coleman-Mitchell has been a reluctant figure on the subject of vaccine exemptions. In addition to the Democrats’ letter, lawmakers repeatedly called for her input last spring as they mulled legislation to erase the religious exemption. Each time, the commissioner brushed aside their requests.

    When approached by reporters last month, she said it wasn’t her job to opine on pending legislation.

    “I can only talk about the public health aspect of immunizations and the importance in regards to herd immunity and in regards to immunization rates and educating people about it,” she said. “I am not able, nor should I weigh in on anything that’s public legislation that comes about as a result of any of the work we do. That’s not in the purview of my role.”

    Looney said Friday that the commissioner changed her mind after completing “a lot of research” on vaccine exemptions.

    “Her reconsideration of her prior position is belated, but still welcome because it’s going to help us in passing a bill next year,” he said. “It’s a matter of public health. It is not a matter of philosophy or religion. We’ve heard from many parents who are very concerned about this, who have immunocompromised children.”

    Part of lawmakers’ drive to get the commissioner on board stems from results in other states. Maine, Washington and New York – all of which succeeded in rolling back religious or philosophical exemptions this year – had the backing of their public health officials.

    “It’s high time that she’s doing this,” State Rep. Liz Linehan, a supporter of the repeal, said Friday. “I’m glad to see that she’s willing to stand up and say publicly that the numbers indicate there is cause for concern and we should be eliminating the religious exemption.”

    Cara Pavalock-D’Amato, a Republican lawmaker and attorney representing a Bristol couple that has sued to block the release of school-by-school vaccination data, questioned the motives of Lamont and Coleman-Mitchell. Part of the reason for trying to halt the data release, she has said, is a concern that lawmakers will use it as a scare tactic to bully people into vaccinating.

    “We’ve had three measles cases this year” in the state, Pavalock-D’Amato said. “And given that the health commissioner herself said there was no state of emergency or threat in Connecticut, I’m not sure why they’re pushing this.”

    In late August, the health department released statistics showing the number of students who claimed the religious exemption had increased by 25%, the largest single-year jump in people choosing the exemption since the department began tracking statewide immunization data a decade ago.

    The data also showed the percentage of kindergarteners who were vaccinated against measles, mumps and rubella decreased between the 2017-18 and 2018-19 school years, to 95.9%, down from 96.5%.

    Ritter said there are no plans to raise the proposal in a special session this fall. Lawmakers will introduce a bill during the regular session that begins in February so the public has a chance to weigh in. The proposal would not force children to be vaccinated, but it would prohibit those who are not immunized on religious grounds from enrolling in the state’s public schools.

    “The school year has already begun, so any changes we make would not be effective this school year anyway, even if you passed a bill in special session,” Ritter said. “I don’t think the timing of October versus February or March or April makes a big difference in terms of the implementation of a new law.”
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