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    Default Re: The US Vaccine issue is more than just about "the Shots", it is about totalitarian tiptoe

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    I am still wondering what we are seeing in Boulder/Broomfield Colorado - it appears to be mumps like (young person 33 years of age), and the doctors in a major health center keep sending her home with in essence "aspirin" and call us in the morning if it gets worse. It's gotten worse with fluid now coming out of her ears.. WFT ?? She's been vaccinated years ago as a kid with the MMR vaccine.
    The update on what's happening with this young lady.. She was being strangled by her neck's hyper inflamed lymph nodes..
    ...
    A normal reaction assuming NO contamination of the vaccine would hardly induce so a dastardly devastating inflammation of the lymph nodes threatening her life. Normal reaction that is would be a slight fever and some swelling and possibly a runny nose, a feeling of malaise and it would be over in a couple days..

    BUT if there were another strain of the paramyxoviruses surfacing.. I wonder..
    So ... a one-two punch. The first punch, perhaps a widely distributed and injected element in a vaccine, might have little immediately obvious effect, but sets the body up to overreact to certain immune system insults. The second punch, perhaps a virus spread in a pandemic, provokes a frequently lethal cytokine immune response in those who earlier had the first punch.

    The variations and combinations of such one two punches are numerous, and the ability of "public health services" to suppress wide spread awareness of such means of genocide are legend.

    This reminds me of the Spanish Flu of 1918, that killed an estimated 25 million to 50 million people or more worldwide.

    From Did A Vaccine Experiment on US Soliders Cause "The Spanish Flu" Epidemic?:
    • The pandemic was not flu. An estimated 95% (or higher) of the deaths were caused by bacterial pneumonia, not influenza/a virus.
    • The pandemic was not Spanish.The first cases of bacterial pneumonia in 1918 trace back to a military base in Fort Riley, Kansas.
    • From January 21 – June 4, 1918, an experimental bacterial meningitis vaccine cultured in horses by the Rockefeller Institute for Medical Research in New York was injected into soldiers at Fort Riley.
    • During the remainder of 1918 as those soldiers – often living and traveling under poor sanitary conditions – were sent to Europe to fight, they spread bacteria at every stop between Kansas and the frontline trenches in France.
    From https://exopolitics.blogs.com/ebolag...d-aspirin.html
    There was no 1918 Spanish flu - 50-100 million people were exterminated by vaccines and aspirin
    Mandated vaccines at the end of the war, forced on soldiers triggered lots of horrible symptoms of all kinds and lots of deaths and it was all blamed on a mysterious flu.

    Vaccines and aspirin together didn't combine to make something new. Vaccines set off symptoms and death, everyone was told there was a flu pandemic, doctors and people used aspirin to try to treat whoever was sick (or scared they were sick) and aspirin is immune suppressant and led to pneumonias and death, or to overdosing with aspirin and death (the "well in the morning, dead by evening" aspect of the deaths said to be a horrifying characteristic of the mysterious virus).
    From DEATH BY INFLUENZA -- CYTOKINE STORMS AND INEFFECTIVE FLU VACCINES:
    Duane Graveline said in an article called Flu, SARS, Ebola and Cytokine Storms. "The healthier the individual and the stronger their immune system, the more robust the response and the more damaging it is to the host. This amplified immune response was what made the 1918 Spanish flu pandemic so deadly. In common with other types of the flu, the immune response was concentrated in the lungs. The overwhelming immune response destroyed lung tissue and caused the lungs of the infected host to fill with liquid."
    From by Bob's October 2014 post Haemorrhagic fever / Ebola outbreaks have been reported - accident, natural or bio-weapon? -- Post #351:
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    Something like a dormant virus normally not presenting (Epstein Barr) for instance is then made active by Ebola being present in the system.. Epstein Barr would be quite able to be transmitted (by again contact from bodily fluids, i.e. coughing, sneezing), and even though Ebola-Zaire would not be being transmitted as the body hasn't fully saturated with a critical threshold level (creating massive flooding, called cytokine response), the virus IS THERE in that body and is growing to critical levels (critical meaning the immune system can't handle the load and is either shutting down or flooding)...

    So CO-VIRUS activation could be happening.
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    Quote So ... a one-two punch. The first punch, perhaps a widely distributed and injected element in a vaccine, might have little immediately obvious effect, but sets the body up to overreact to certain immune system insults. The second punch, perhaps a virus spread in a pandemic, provokes a frequently lethal cytokine immune response in those who earlier had the first punch.

    The variations and combinations of such one two punches are numerous, and the ability of "public health services" to suppress wide spread awareness of such means of genocide are legend.
    Yes - that exactly Paul has me very concerned.

    Without the vaccine, the potential for a large immune response is there where the body hasn't coded it's B-Cells yet to recognize subsequent infections.

    With the vaccine, the body is setup to go after the B-Cell coded protein in the pathogen, however, a variation of the invader is enough to trigger the MASSIVE cytokine (to mark cells for lysing response).. But the immune system cannot completely target the "new" invader. The flooding though creates MASSIVE inflammation responses in the body - the "body" dies by the excess inflammation and not the invader.. Without the vaccine, the massive response would not have happened most likely, and the normal course of the body dealing with an invader would have happened.

    Point being the vaccine concept is in-adequate to provide broad "family spectrum" immunity responses..

    Something better than vaccines then are needed. The existing "families" of viruses are too vast to be addressed by one simple vaccine derived from one "typical" virus.

    ==update==

    I'll add a few points - normally with an immune response there are cells which will consume the targeted invaders. If the body can't completely target for consumption (digestion by white blood cells for instance) the "invader", the body will continue to flood the infective pathogen invader and edema (fluid build-up) happens. Swelling happens, but the "invader" isn't completely targeted and it remains there triggering the flooding (as was happening in my friend's lady).

    A normal situation where an invader has been targeted would result in massive attack of the foreign invader, each of the cells would be marked for death, and then killed, and then consumed.. A very simple immune process, nothing mysterious there..

    When some invaders though destroy the targeting mechanism, or they mask themselves in coatings that the body is made to 'think' that it is part of the body, the invader can continue to replicate itself to take over its host. When that happens the body can be severely damaged or die. AIDS for instance messes with the body's ability to recognize the foreign invader, the immune system is damaged.. No vaccine would help in an AIDS situation for instance..

    -- and this is where the concern happens: with the mumps family or the measles family there can be genetic engineering, where the invader has been modified enough to "trigger" flooding (the edema swelling), but not be adequate to kill the invader. Weaponized measles or weaponized mumps or weaponized "influenza" could be extraordinarily deadly if one has been generally vaccinated to a generic version of the viruses and the modified virus reaches the population..

    Is this what is happening with some "failed" vaccine reactions?

    A different variant of the virus triggered the response to the immune system due to an improperly designed "vaccine", incapable of handling ALL variants of virus mutation in such and such family?

    I would believe in Gulf War Syndrome the soldiers received a concoction of various potential biowarfare vaccinations - but what they were hit with, was not exactly what they were immunized against..

    The result was massive inflammation of tissues and lymph nodes leading to brain and nervous system damage - not from the vaccine, but from the exposure to weaponized and modified viruses and other pathogens.. Anti-vaxers then miss the exact mechanism that is the concern. An incomplete vaccine leaves one open to hypersensitivity - antivaxers have most definitely cited what they called "auto-immune response" or a hyper-allergy reaction.. Most certainly but it is from an exposure to a CLOSE TO but not exact pathogen - the close to allows the pathogen to continually be flooded as the body tries to expel it..

    The modified weapons were nasty enough to trigger a massive damaging response..

    The vaccine didn't really do it (this is important to recognize) - the vaccine only setup a situation in the immune system for a potential excessive hypersensitivity - the solution by the way for Gulf War Syndrome was indeed the use of massive steroids - prednisone and prednisilone both designed to address severe inflammation and swelling (edema).

    It seems to me, that the truth in Vaccinations needs to address the weaponization exposure to pathogens, what happens.. I have NEVER seen that addressed otherwise, than a simple well there may be an allergy response - that totally misses the point - incomplete immune response to a modified virus or pathogen is the point.. That needs to be addressed.
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    When the church of pharmaceutical mysticism must be protected, it means our ability to discover the truth has become much too powerful.


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    It is truly horrifying to go down this rabbit hole.

    Quote ICD 999 Patrick Jordan

    "The Ultimate Vaccine Book! This book contains the most extensive Timeline proving the intention of developing vaccines as Weapons of Mass Destruction." endorsement by Dr. Rebecca Carley. Not since Edgar March Crookshank published History and Pathology of Vaccination, A Critical Inquiry, Volume 1 in 1889 has anyone compiled the unvarnished truth about vaccines as Weapons of Mass Destruction. Patrick Jordan shows how medicine developed from 6000-year old Black Magic into a pseudo- scientific application of the same superstition of Blood Sacrifice today.

    It begins with an examination of kidney disease precipitated by Vaccination and expands on the total systemic destruction of all forms of connective tissue in the unique postulate of Chronic Serum Sickness as an astoundingly plausible explanation for ALL diseases in North America. Inspired by the groundbreaking work of Dr. Rebecca Carley, M.D. (www.drcarley.com) and in collaboration with veterinarian Dr. Patricia Jordan, D.V.M. (no relation) a universal view is developed of Planet-wide vaccine poisoning including humans, animals and the food supply.

    The book details by what complex biological mechanisms it actually causes damage. Sound science with in-text references mixed with personal opinion and conjecture take the militarized vaccine holocaust out of the Occulted Darkness into the Brilliant Sunlight so that even the common man and woman can see the evil for what it is. Ingredients lists and extensive Timelines graphically fill out what words lack in conveying the overwhelming scope of the assault on humanity. Facts are shown so that you can see The Big Picture. The Big Picture is always lost unless seemingly unrelated historical and biological events are contrasted by historical and biological causal mechanisms. Indexed. 2012 minor revision.
    Quote Patrick Jordan | The History of Weaponized Vaccines, Militarized Medicine, & Serum - The Higherside

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    Patrick Jordan | The History of Weaponized Vaccines, Militarized Medicine, & Serum - The Higherside
    Many of our listeners will agree that it’s loopy to consider the government and the nation of the healthcare device to sincerely maintain us wholesome. Nowhere is the controversy extra suggested than in the seasoned- and anti-vaccination debate. While the government corporations insist that vaccines are safe and effective, those who've achieved their personal studies have determined in any other case.

    Today’s guest, Patrick Jordan, asserts that vaccines aren't handiest useless, but additionally risky. He says that the current nation of pressured vaccinations for kids is similar to a army vaccine holocaust, and that those injections are inflicting most important health troubles, from autism to cancer, coronary heart ailment, Alzheimer’s Disease and extra. In addition to being an impartial researcher, Patrick has written dozens of books, including ICD 999 and Continuum.

    Some of the subjects that you’ll hear about on these days’s podcast encompass:

    five:30: How Patrick’s personal enjoy along with his mom’s kidney ailment and serum illness led him to his research at the function of politics and faith in healthcare during the last five,000 years.

    12:30: The ICD-900 collection is a sequence of codes used by healthcare companies to invoice insurance agencies for vaccine-triggered illnesses.

    17:00: A list of conditions which are as a result of serum sickness from vaccines. These consist of minor illnesses like hives, malaise and fever, as well as greater excessive diseases, like heart ailment, infection of the blood vessels, and Crohn’s disorder.

    33:15: Cases of well-known docs who've vaccinated their personal kids or grandchildren with new vaccines, only to purpose neurological harm, in the case of Jenner, or disorder and death, within the case of Ochsner.

    forty six:40: Information on the case of a deadly disease of cowpox one hundred years after the ailment were eliminated. Edgar March Crookshank, a professor of microbiology, seemed into this, and concluded that vaccination have to in no way have came about and that it should be discontinued inside the future.

    56:40: Vaccine-preventable sicknesses have been used as biological struggle. At one time, Spain inoculated kids with smallpox at once earlier than putting them on a deliver en route to South America. As deliberate, the children evolved pustules simply as they have been disembarking in the new u . s . a ., letting them unwittingly transmit smallpox to a populace who had never been uncovered to the sickness before, growing mass demise.

    1:05:20: The lie of mercury-loose vaccines: There remains thimerosal (mercury) in “mercury-loose” vaccines, but it is not required to be at the labels, because it’s definitely a part of the manufacturing procedure and no longer introduced as a separate element.


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    This is one of those videos that you archive offline as a deposition for crimes against the biosphere. This is the end of the line of my 'education'. It is the beginning of yours as we raze Hell down to the bedrock to build our own new foundation as we know reality to be. This video destroys ALL of the myths of mainstream and alterNOT medicine so pay attention and watch it a couple or 22 times. 45 years of my life within the standard science education indoctrination were found to be totally wasted when I came across a single citation regarding the treatment of the most detailed outline of immune response to a disease state that showed clearly that those in control have no intention whatsoever of fixing it because they broke in the first place. Yet their 'solution' to the problem was the break the thing that let you know something was broken so that you had no idea that the first thing was broken. A simple analogy is to get the Influenza A shot so that you will be given Parkinson's on purpose. Then they will tell you that they need more tax funding to develop a VACCINE for Parkinson's. The real world equivalent is a plumber putting in your water pipes that then develop a leak. You call the plumbers to fix the leak but they tell you the leak cannot be fixed so the only solution is to turn off the water so that nothing else gets damaged from the leak. What we are tasked with is studying what little valid work out there exists in molecular biochemistry in order to discover what they did to break us, then how to fix it. Folks always want to know WHY They would do something like this. It is because they are homicidal maniacs. That's all you need to know for the motive. The reason that they will never offer a solution for the breaking of the ubiquitin/proteosome pathway is because that is what is supposed to refold proteins before they become misfolded prions. They want to harm. They live on death. The only solution to the problem is to eliminate those who broke us in the first place
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    What the mainstream allophathic community did to destory Dr. Rebecca Carly's life and career was criminal. Horrifying is right!
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    It is truly horrifying to go down this rabbit hole.

    Quote ICD 999 Patrick Jordan

    "The Ultimate Vaccine Book! This book contains the most extensive Timeline proving the intention of developing vaccines as Weapons of Mass Destruction." endorsement by Dr. Rebecca Carley. Not since Edgar March Crookshank published History and Pathology of Vaccination, A Critical Inquiry, Volume 1 in 1889 has anyone compiled the unvarnished truth about vaccines as Weapons of Mass Destruction. Patrick Jordan shows how medicine developed from 6000-year old Black Magic into a pseudo- scientific application of the same superstition of Blood Sacrifice today.

    It begins with an examination of kidney disease precipitated by Vaccination and expands on the total systemic destruction of all forms of connective tissue in the unique postulate of Chronic Serum Sickness as an astoundingly plausible explanation for ALL diseases in North America. Inspired by the groundbreaking work of Dr. Rebecca Carley, M.D. (www.drcarley.com) and in collaboration with veterinarian Dr. Patricia Jordan, D.V.M. (no relation) a universal view is developed of Planet-wide vaccine poisoning including humans, animals and the food supply.
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    A good 9 part series being aired for free now concerning the microbiome and immune system, called Interconnected.
    EPISODE 1: The Invisible Organ: The Missing Piece In Health And Longevity
    Airing Here until Wednesday the 8th of May at 06:00 PM PDT: https://www.interconnectedseries.com/episode1tsa/

    Interesting how this info is coming to the fore now just as the issues dealing with the dangers of vaccine is coming to such an ugly head, when obviously, the best way to stay healthy is to build on our immune systems and microbiomes naturally, instead of invading and traumatizing them with toxins via vaccines.

    https://www.interconnectedseries.com/episode1tsa/
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    This is from 1984 and projected that measles vaccine would become even less effective every year.

    Quote THE FUTURE OF MEASLES IN HIGHLY IMMUNIZED POPULATIONS A MODELING APPROACH
    DAVID L. LEVY
    American Journal of Epidemiology, Volume 120, Issue 1, July 1984, Pages 39–48, https://doi.org/10.1093/oxfordjournals.aje.a113872
    Published: 01 July 1984 Article history


    Abstract
    Little is known about how an intensive measles elimination program changes the overall immune status of the population. A computer model was created to study the effect of the measles elimination program in the United States on the number of susceptibles in the population. The simulation reveals that in the prevaccine era, approximately 10.6% of the population was susceptible to measles, most of whom were children less than 10 years of age. With the institution of the measles immunization program, the proportion of susceptibles in the population fell to 3.1% from 1978 through 1981, but then began to rise by approximately 0.1% per year to reach about 10.9% in the year 2050. The susceptibles at this time were distributed evenly throughout all age groups. The model did not consider the potential effect of waning immunity. The results of this study suggest that measles elimination in the United States has been achieved by an effective immunization program aimed at young susceptibles combined with a highly, naturally immunized adult population. However, despite short-term success in eliminating the disease, long-range projections demonstrate that the proportion of susceptible in the year 2050 may be greater than in the prevaccine era. Present vaccine technology and public health policy must be altered to deal with this eventuality.
    Turkish TV coverage of the response to mandatory vaccination in Oregon.


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    If vaccination is a time bomb according to Patrick Jordan, then it may take care of the issue of living just too long like all those "living too long" themed sci fi stories but different?

    Quote April 30, 2019 MEDICINE
    Are We Living Too Long?
    Medicine’s ever-increasing focus on longevity is bad for society, says a prominent physician. (But, who’d voluntarily give up those bonus years?)

    Seamus O’Mahony



    Rolf Zinkernagel, a Swiss immunologist who won the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine in 1996, believes that the lifespan of human beings has far exceeded what it was intended to be: “I would argue that we are basically built to reach 25 years of age. All the rest is luxury.” Wealthy older people spend a lot of time and money maintaining their health and postponing death. Dinner-party conversations center on colonoscopies, statins (drugs which reduce blood cholesterol), and new diets. Many Americans who are not doctors subscribe to the New England Journal of Medicine. I have noticed a similar trend in well-off, older acquaintances of mine: health, and its maintenance, has become their hobby.

    All quite laudable, but let’s take this trend to its logical conclusion. What are the consequences for society if average life expectancy rises to 100 years, or even more? We face the prospect of an army of centenarians cared for by poorly paid immigrants. The children of these centenarians can expect to work well into their 70s, or even 80s. The world of work will alter drastically, with diminishing opportunities for the young.

    What if powerful new therapies emerge which can slow down the aging process and postpone death? Undoubtedly it will be the rich and powerful who will avail themselves of them. Poor people in Africa, Asia, and South America will continue to struggle for simple necessities, such as food, clean water, and basic healthcare. There will be bitter debates about whether the state should fund such therapies. The old are a powerful lobby group and, compared to the young, are far more likely to vote, and thus hurt politicians at the ballot box. Politicians and policymakers mess with welfare provision for the old at their peril. The baby boomers of rich Western countries are now in their 60s and 70s and are aiming for a different kind of old age than their parents. They demand a retirement that is well-­funded, active, and packed with experience. They are unfettered by mortgage debt and are the last generation to receive defined benefit pensions. The economic downturn of the last several years has only strengthened their position. They are passionate believers in the compression of morbidity.

    “We are basically built to reach 25 years of age.”

    But this vision of aging is wishful thinking. Many now face an old age in which the final years are spent in nursing homes. There are several societal reasons for this: increased longevity, the demise of the multi-generational extended family, and the contemporary obsession with safety. None of us wants to spend the end of our life in a nursing home; they are viewed (correctly) as places which value safety and protocol over independence and living.

    What are we to do? We will not see a return of the preindustrial extended family; the future is urban, atomized, and medicalized. The bioethicist Ezekiel Emanuel outraged the baby boomers with his 2014 essay for the Atlantic, “Why I Hope to Die at 75.” He attacked what he called the American immortal: “I think this manic desperation to endlessly extend life is misguided and potentially destructive. For many reasons, 75 is a pretty good age to aim to stop. Americans may live longer than their parents, but they are likely to be more incapacitated. Does that sound very desirable? Not to me.”

    Auberon Waugh (who died aged 61), son of Evelyn Waugh (who died aged 62), once remarked, “It is the duty of all good parents to die young.” Montaigne put it like this: “Make room for others, as others have made room for you.”

    Charles C. Mann wrote an essay in 2005 for the Atlanticcalled “The Coming Death Shortage,” which envisaged a future “tripartite society” of “the very old and very rich on top, beta-testing each new treatment on themselves; a mass of ordinary old, forced by insurance into supremely healthy habits, kept alive by medical entitlement; and the diminishingly influential young.”

    I am broadly in agreement with Mann that ever-increasing longevity is bad for society, but the problem is this: Given the opportunity of a few extra years, would I take them? Of course I would. There is an old joke: “Who wants to live to be 100? A guy who’s 99.”

    Medicine has taken much of the credit, but longevity in developed countries has increased owing to a combination of factors, which include not only organized healthcare, but also improved living conditions, disease prevention, and behavioral changes, such as reductions in smoking.

    Interestingly, the maximum human lifespan has remained unchanged at about 110–120 years; it is average longevity which has increased so dramatically. Where do we draw the line and call “enough”? We can’t. John Gray has eloquently argued that although scientific knowledge has increased exponentially since the Enlightenment, human irrationality remains stubbornly static. Science is driven by reason and logic, yet our use of it is frequently irrational. Does this phenomenon have any relevance to my daily work as a doctor? Well yes, it does. Irrationality pervades all aspects of medicine, from deluded, internet-addled patients and relatives, to the overuse of scans and other diagnostic procedures, to the widespread use of drugs of dubious benefit and high cost. Cancer care has been described as “a culture of medical excess.” Overuse and futile use is driven by patients, doctors, hospitals, and pharmaceutical companies. The doctor who practices sparingly and judiciously has little to gain either professionally or financially.

    Many within medicine view with alarm the direction modern healthcare has taken — that spending on medicine in countries like the U.S. has passed the tipping point where it causes more harm than good. We have seen the rise in the concept of disease “awareness,” promoted, not infrequently, by pharmaceutical companies. Genetics has the potential to turn us all into patients by identifying our predisposition to various diseases. Guidelines from the European Society of Cardiology on treatment of blood pressure and high cholesterol levels identified 76 percent of the entire adult population of Norway as being “at increased risk.” This ruse of “disease mongering” (driven mainly by the pharmaceutical industry) has identified the worried well, rather than the sick, as their market.

    We cannot, like misers, hoard health; living uses it up. Nor should we lose it like spendthrifts. Health, like money, is not an end in itself; like money, it is a prerequisite for a decent, fulfilling life. The obsessive pursuit of health is a form of consumerism and impoverishes us not just spiritually, but also financially. Rising spending on healthcare inevitably means that we spend less on other societal needs, such as education, housing, and transport. Medicine should give up the quest to conquer nature, and retreat to a core function of providing comfort and succor.
    Quote Time to Prevent Elderly From Living Too Long?
    by Wesley J. Smith, J.D., Special Consultant to the CBC on DECEMBER 4, 2013


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    Bioethicist Founding Father Daniel Callahan has long supported death panel health care rationing based on age. He has now weighed in against spending a lot on research to delay the aging process.

    The transhumanists aren’t going to like this! From, “On Dying After Your Time:”

    Even if anti-aging research could give us radically longer lives someday, though, should we even be seeking them? Regardless of what science makes possible, or what individual people want, aging is a public issue with social consequences, and these must be thought through.

    Regardless of what science makes possible, or what individual people want, aging is a public issue with social consequences, and these must be thought through. Consider how dire the cost projections for Medicare already are. In 2010 more than 40 million Americans were over 65. In 2030 there will be slightly more than 72 million, and in 2050 more than 83 million. The Congressional Budget Office has projected a rise of Medicare expenditures to 5.8 percent of gross domestic product in 2038 from 3.5 percent today, a burden often declared unsustainable.

    Contrary to the transhumanist eschatology, Callahan doesn’t believe that extending the length of lives will also mean extending their vitality. I tend to agree. But he doesn’t exactly practice what he preaches:

    Modern medicine is very good at keeping elderly people with chronic diseases expensively alive. At 83, I’m a good example. I’m on oxygen at night for emphysema, and three years ago I needed a seven-hour emergency heart operation to save my life. Just 10 percent of the population — mainly the elderly — consumes about 80 percent of health care expenditures, primarily on expensive chronic illnesses and end-of-life costs. Historically, the longer lives that medical advances have given us have run exactly parallel to the increase in chronic illness and the explosion in costs. Can we possibly afford to live even longer — much less radically longer?

    Callahan could have refused that expensive treatment. I don’t say he should have, but no one forced him to spend all that (presumably) public money on care.

    He does ask a valid question, I think, about the wisdom of pouring resources into radical life-extending research (at least public money). However he also seems to assert that the elderly be somehow prevented from living longer (my emphasis):

    We may properly hope that scientific advances help ensure, with ever greater reliability, that young people manage to become old people. We are not, however, obliged to help the old become indefinitely older. Indeed, our duty may be just the reverse: to let death have its day.

    What does that mean? Some kind of Logan’s Run scenario?

    Callahan isn’t that type. But he should have specified what he meant. As I read him, he seems to be proclaiming some kind of a moral duty of the elderly to die.

    Or it could mean refusing efficacious medical care to the elderly that the younger would be able to obtain. In less genteel hands than Callahan’s, it could mean something even more insidious.

    My, don’t those clouds on the horizon look dark?

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    This is good news

    Quote Metcalfe Informed Consent Press Conference
    Published on May 3, 2019

    News conference coverage of Daryl D. Metcalfe, a Pennsylvania Republican introducing House Bill 286, also known as the Informed Consent Protection Act which makes it illegal for pediatricians to “Fire” a patient or family for not following the CDC vaccination schedule. It also makes it illegal for pediatricians to “Game the System” by accepting cash kickbacks from insurance companies for vaccinating children. Source: jeffreydachmd.com

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    It's great news! Thanks! Very encouraging to hear truth spoken so simply and clearly.
    Quote Posted by Delight (here)
    This is good news

    Quote Metcalfe Informed Consent Press Conference
    Published on May 3, 2019

    News conference coverage of Daryl D. Metcalfe, a Pennsylvania Republican introducing House Bill 286, also known as the Informed Consent Protection Act which makes it illegal for pediatricians to “Fire” a patient or family for not following the CDC vaccination schedule. It also makes it illegal for pediatricians to “Game the System” by accepting cash kickbacks from insurance companies for vaccinating children. Source: jeffreydachmd.com
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    I am including this from 2015. It mentions several cases where vaccination has been associated with increased mortality.

    Quote No Vaccines Necessary, That's The Truth
    The Wild Doc
    Published on Nov 25, 2015
    Are vaccines necessary? Are they safe? Are vaccines causing Autism? Are vaccines the BEST thing we can do for our children? Are unvaccinated children a risk? Are vaccinated children at risk?


    video comments often have interesting details

    Quote Kissinger's "population control" agenda? Well, here ya go, in all it's 123 pages of disgusting ugliness. Seems they're achieving their goals via "injections". Interestingly, a large number of vaccines have been linked to infertility issues.
    Page 4/123. World Demographic Trends
    QUOTE: "Policies to reduce fertility will have their main effects on total numbers only after several decades. However, if future numbers are to be kept within reasonable bounds, it is urgent that measures to reduce fertility be started and made effective in the 1970's and 1980's. Moreover, programs started now to reduce birth rates will have short run advantages for developing countries in lowered demands on food, health and educational and other services and in enlarged capacity to contribute to productive investments, thus accelerating development."

    National Security Study Memorandum, NSSM 200, Implications of Worldwide Population Growth For U.S. Security and Overseas Interests (THE KISSINGER REPORT). December 10, 1974
    Declassified/Released on 7/3/89 under provisions of E.O. 12356 by F. Graboske, National Security Council
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    This is good news

    Quote ... which makes it illegal for pediatricians to “Fire” a patient or family for not following the CDC vaccination schedule ...
    Were I in the market for the services of a pediatrician, I'd prefer one who disparaged the CDC vaccination schedule.

    However from my present more Libertarian mind set, I do not favor laws making it illegal for a pediatrician to require, or to discourage, his patients compliance with that schedule.

    If a pediatrician chooses to only take patients who comply with the CDC schedule, that should be their legal choice, in my view. If that choice is done from an informed position (at least an honest attempt at such), with the best health interests of the patients and their children foremost in mind, then that's also their moral choice, in line with the pediatrician's Hippocratic Oath.

    In line with this, the state should not establish a medical monopoly controlled by pharmaceutical and vaccine manufacturers. Doctors who oppose vaccination should be as free as doctors who support vaccinations to practice their profession and seek patients.

    The "state" has no business deciding either way whether some medical treatment should be encouraged, mandated, discouraged or prohibited. If we grant the "state" that power, then sooner or later, that power will be used against our best interests.

    (Granted, I am unaware how an informed position would result in recommending any vaccines, but I cannot claim to be perfectly informed on this, or any, topic.)

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    The "state" has no business deciding either way whether some medical treatment should be encouraged, mandated, discouraged or prohibited. If we grant the "state" that power, then sooner or later, that power will be used against our best interests.
    I agree that government has no business mandating that anyone use ANY particular treatments, but that is not what is happening.

    I am fine with physicians having the right to treat whomever they want but what if it is system wide coercion?

    Physicians are paid to vaccinate. Hospitals started vaccination mandates for employees in 2009 so they can get higher insurance reimbursement for demonstrating system wide "quality indicators". IMO there should be some legal obstruction of health care providers receiving money as "kick backs" for the kind of treatment recommended and then forced by coercion.

    I like the idea of libertarian principles. There is the caveat in libertarian viewpoint "I am free to do anything that does not impinge on others". Now measles is said to be so dangerous that my decision to refrain form vaccination is said to impinge on others.

    It is so ingrained that vaccines are super special safe specific saviors.

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    Vaccine Choice Canada

    Latest bulletin from Vaccine Choice Canada - web version with links-
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    Dear Members & Friends of Vaccine Choice Canada,
    In this Issue:

    CBC's Cross Country Checkup on Mandatory Vaccines
    Citizens Address the Toronto Board of Health on Vaccines
    Liberal Senate Forum on Vaccination
    https://vaccinechoicecanada.com/crm?...&reset=1&id=46

    Association for Vaccine Damaged Children 1986 Queen’s Park Press Conference
    World Health Organization (WHO) – Decrees From On High
    No Mercy for Mothers or Their Vaccine Injured Children
    Links to additional News Articles

    CBC's Cross Country Checkup on Mandatory Vaccines

    On Sunday, May 5th, CBC Radio’s call in talk show Cross Country Checkup featured the topic, “Should the Measles Shot be Mandatory”. We are so pleased that VCC Board member Christine Colebeck was invited to participate in a pre-taped interview. Christine was the lead guest on the program.

    Christine is the mother of 5 children and recounted the tragic death of her first born healthy 3-month-old daughter within hours of getting her first vaccine, a DPT shot. Her daughter’s death was acknowledged by doctors as having been caused by the pertussis (whooping cough) portion of the vaccine and she was advised not to give pertussis vaccine to any other children in future.

    Christine continued to dutifully vaccinate her children with all the other vaccines on the schedule until one of her children had a severe reaction to MMR vaccine after which she stopped vaccinating them altogether.

    Christine provides insight into typical medical denial when her children developed pertussis which the doctors discounted, even though they had not received that reactive vaccine. She insisted that tests be done which proved that they did have pertussis, as did the fully vaccinated foster children who were in her care at that time.

    Should the measles shot be mandatory? - includes link to listen to the full episode

    Citizens Address the Toronto Board of Health on Vaccines

    On April 8, 2019, The Toronto Board of Health had an Agenda Item “Addressing Vaccine Hesitancy“. This agenda came about after Vaccine Choice Canada’s billboards appeared in Toronto, and were eventually forced down. Simultaneously, the World Health Organization released a statement that named ‘vaccine hesitancy’ as one of the top 10 threats to global health, signaling an intensification of pro-vaccine propaganda world wide.

    Four citizens addressed the Toronto Board of Health. Joel Sussmann’s presentation went viral with tens of thousands of views across social media platforms. You can view all of the presentations here.

    Unfortunately the citizens’ concerns fell on deaf ears and the board passed the motion,

    That the Board of Health:

    1. Request the Medical Officer of Health to report to the Board of Health at its meeting on September 23, 2019 with Toronto Public Health’s strategy to address vaccine hesitancy which should include the following:

    a. Investigating the potential to restrict misleading advertising regarding vaccinations on City-owned land and infrastructure;

    b. Consulting with Health Canada regarding their ability to use additional regulations under their legislative authority to restrict misleading advertising regarding vaccinations;

    c. Additional actions to ensure that the public has the necessary information to make informed decisions about the importance of vaccinations for the health of all members of our community, including consideration of a public education campaign; and

    d. Assistance the Medical Officer of Health can provide to health care providers to ensure that they can support families in making informed vaccination decisions.
    To view the Vaccine Choice Canada billboards click here.

    Liberal Senate Forum on Vaccination

    On April 10, 2019, the Liberal Senate Forum hosted a panel discussion on Vaccination: We know what the problem is; what are the solutions? in Ottawa, Ontario.

    To view the 2 hour panel discussion and read correspondence to the Senators click here.

    Apparently no one thought to invite vaccine injury victims to the table. There was no one speaking on behalf of the tens of thousands of Canadian families whose children have suffered devastating neurological and immune system injuries following vaccination. The blatant misinformation and lies uttered by the participating medical bureaucrats and key opinion leaders (KOLs) went unchallenged, with the Globe and Mail’s Andre Picard adding insult to injury against those who question vaccine safety,

    "As you've heard from people there is a very small hard core of anti-vaxxers. This is a "tiny minority of intellectual and moral degenerates" ..... "they deserve to be condemned and marginalized and exposed for what they are - charlatans who are cashing in on fear."
    Association for Vaccine Damaged Children 1986 Queen’s Park Press Conference

    Thirty-three years ago, on April 30, 1986, Ontario families of vaccine injured children made the trek to Queen’s Park for a demonstration and press conference.

    “When we realized that there were so many of us, whose children had been affected by the DPT vaccine we formed our Association both to represent our children who cannot speak for themselves and to support each other. We are deeply committed to ensure that all Canadian parents have vaccine information, which we did not have, in order that they can make responsible decisions. It’s clear through our work that no matter how immediately a child reacts to the vaccine it is simply not being acknowledged and there is no follow up to determine the degree of damage or long term effect to the child’s health. This across the board denial prevents the government and the public from having any true knowledge of the extent of damage and death that the vaccine is causing. How many children is this happening to? Nobody knows for sure.” – Edda Goldman West

    To view the 1 hour press conference or read the transcript click here.

    World Health Organization (WHO) – Decrees From On High

    The launch of a forum with partners to discuss the future decade of immunization has ominous overtones of what is to come. It’s declaration of a “unified vision and approach for vaccines and immunization, with clear strategies and tactics that sets a new compelling country-centric vision and provides direction for the global immunization community in the coming decade”, portends a tightening of the screws on vaccine resistance and increased attacks on our most basic right – the right to bodily integrated and refusal of unwanted medical treatment.

    “People must be at the centre of healthcare and their free and equal rights to essential healthcare services such as vaccinations must be observed throughout their life-course, without discrimination,” said Ms Kate Gilmore, Deputy High Commissioner for Human Rights, United Nations who then added this Orwellian afternote,

    “There is no such thing as a right to refuse vaccines when the consequences of doing so is to be borne by others and undermine the rights of others to health, as recognized in the International Human Rights Framework.”

    Unbeknownst to most is the disturbing fact that the WHO has revised the definition of adverse events following immunization (AEFI) to the detriment of all children. This will increase the propensity for doctors to discount vaccine reactions and injures, giving them even greater license to ignore injuries and deaths following vaccination. The new assessment algorithms weaken the possibility of determining whether a vaccination is linked to an adverse event or injury and means that an adverse event can only be related to vaccination if there is previous epidemiological evidence that such a reaction was caused by the vaccine.

    As discussed in this article “the new guidelines will allow all deaths after vaccinations seen in post marketing surveillance to be classified as “coincidental” or “unclassifiable”.

    Indian pediatrician and researcher, Dr. Jacob Puliyel is very worried that, “by this criteria, deaths after vaccination in children with malnutrition can all be ignored and cannot be “solely attributable to vaccine with no other factor intervening”. Furthermore says Puliyel,

    "This would mean that AEFI in children with an underlying heart disease who may develop symptoms of cardiac decompensation after vaccination, the cardiac decompensation would not be considered causally related to the vaccine as before, although vaccination contributed to cardiac failure in this specific situation.”
    NVIC’s Barbara Loe Fisher provides an astute analysis of the WHO+Pharma+Gates Foundation and government partnerships and what this means. She writes that they, along with internet and mass media giants,

    “join together to aggressively market vaccines and promote “no exceptions” vaccine use policies endorsed by the WHO and governments. The threat to autonomy and freedom of thought and speech posed by these companies, especially in censoring online public conversations about vaccination and health, is considerable.”
    No Mercy for Mothers or Their Vaccine Injured Children

    NVIC’s Barbara Loe Fisher offers another astute analysis on the ‘vaccine culture wars’ battering parents who choose to make informed vaccine decisions. She writes,

    “Today, parents whose children have been injured by vaccines are being demonized and discriminated against for speaking publicly about what happened to their children after vaccination.1 There is no other minority in America being subjected to public humiliation and censorship for simply speaking the truth."
    What is unfolding worldwide is an orchestrated assault on the basic human right to determine what goes into our bodies and that of our children. The corporate entities that control the public health discourse on vaccination, target dissenters with propaganda techniques well known for inciting hatred and loathing of ‘the other’ by marginalizing, accusing ostracizing, shunning and disparaging those who disagree with its edicts. Our freedom of speech is denied us by the global media which ruthlessly censors all dissenting opinions. Concerned voices are silenced and not permitted to be heard. Barbara Loe Fisher writes,

    “It is clear that mass media communications today is being controlled by corporations financially tied to pharmaceutical companies and influenced by powerful political institutions in society. It goes a long way to explaining why mainstream media outlets have been united in attacking parents and physicians who defend the ethical principle of informed consent, including informed consent to vaccination, and are calling for vaccine exemptions to be severely restricted or eliminated.”

    Vaccine resisters have been ghettoized by the mass media with its incessant flood of loathing leveled at those who question or reject the prescribed vaccines. The barrage of hate speech is aimed at vaccine resisters who are most often the mothers living the reality of their child’s descent into vaccine injury, and chronic debilitating illnesses. It is they who bear the burden of lifelong care for the children whose health and lives have been ruined by routine ‘safe and effective’ vaccines.

    When as individuals, we are no longer permitted to question a pressing health issue like ‘vaccine safety’ without the boot of the state threatening to crush our basic human right to bodily integrity, we know that as a society, we have crossed the line from democracy into tyranny.

    *****

    Further reading:

    How Public Vaccine Policy violates Our Right to Informed Consent by Jeremy Hammond

    National Emergency on Measles? Where are the Articles on Mumps? by David Brownstein MD

    Libertarians for Forced Vaccinations? - No, you don't have a "right" to demand that others are vaccinated.

    A Witch Hunt Against Parents of Unvaccinated Children - Measles Outbreaks: How a Witch Hunt* Against Parents of Unvaccinated Children Was Unleashed by Vera Sharav, Alliance for Human Research Protection

    Paul Revere and the Impending Medical Tyranny by Charlene Bollinger

    Childhood Shingles Resulting from Chickenpox Vaccination: “Rare” or Predictable? - Children's Health Defense Team

    Japan Leads the Way – No Vaccine Mandates and No MMR Vaccine = Healthier Children - The Promise of Good Health; Are We Jumping Off the Cliff in the U.S.? by Kristina Kristen

    Pediatrician Pleads With Doctors To End The Autism Epidemic – video with Paul Thomas MD

    Vaccine Safety: Learning From the Boeing 737 MAX Disasters by Vinu Arumugham

    Vaccinegate - What did the Corvelva analysis find in the Priorix Tetra measles, mumps, rubella + varicella (chickenpox) vaccine?

    Those Measles Outbreaks: Thoughts out of Season by Richard Moscowitz MD

    MMR Dangers Exposed by FDA Study – Del Bigtree discusses the science

    Statistics Link Rise of “Vaccine Preventable” Diseases to Increased Vaccination Rates by Christina England

    Open letter to Colorado Governor concerning vaccine exemptions by Robyn Charron

    Citizens address Toronto Board of Health on Vaccine Safety Concerns - April 8 – Full meeting video
    and Video of 4 concerned citizens.

    "Anti-Vaxxer" Parents Try To Educate Editorial Cartoonist by Bretigne Shaffer

    Measles Transmitted By The Vaccinated, Gov. Researchers Confirm by Sayer Ji

    New York City Mandatory Measles Vaccination Violates New York State Law - Children's Health Defense looks forward to the opportunity to have a neutral arbitrator scrutinize the legitimacy of the City's order - press release - Children’s Health Defense

    Vaccines: Gateway Drugs by Design by Kristina Kristen

    Measles, Measles, Everywhere by Celeste McGovern

    Why these 'anti-vaxxers' are holding their ground: 'It's about fundamental rights' - Cornerstones of Freedom - IPAK Conference

    NY Supreme Court Justice Halts Measles Ban in Rockland County, Calling It 'Arbitrary and Capricious'

    The Fox Owns the Henhouse—When Public Safety is Governed by Private Profit

    2014 study on why MMR provokes seizures in some children - Breakthrough: why MMR vaccine can give children febrile seizures

    Cervical Cancer on the Rise and here at Collective Evolution

    What the media doesn’t want you to know about why people choose to not vaccinate their children

    MMR Vaccine May Soon Have a Competitor - 97% of children had a positive seroresponse against the 3 MMR-RIT Priorix components

    The Most Important Question by Ted Kuntz

    CBC attacks Health Action Network Society and Ted Kuntz

    Anatomy of a science study censorship - Elsevier’s “withdrawal” of a small veterinary study breaks all the rules of scientific publishing. The biggest name in scientific literature has produced fake medical journals for Merck’s advertisers before, so yanking a study that doesn’t pass the vaccine industry’s sniff test would be nothing. Celeste McGovern looks at a case study of how Pharma is killing science. by Celeste McGovern

    The risks of immune activation during pregnancy

    American Academy of Pediatrics votes for mandatory vaccination

    Failure to Vaccinate or Vaccine Failures? by Children’s Health Defense - “Rather than tarring and feathering individuals who, for a variety of well-founded reasons, do not vaccinate—or worse, forcing them to inject their children with vaccines that are not only ineffective but harmful—our legislators should be investigating the powerful entities that are trying to hide vaccines’ inability to deliver what they promise.”

    65 Chemical Cross-Contaminants Found In Popular Children’s Vaccine INFANRIX Hexa

    Testimony of a Maine Senator whose baby died 36 hours after DPT shot 32 years ago

    Rebuttal to recent Danish MMR study by Brian Hooker

    The Tetanus Shot – How Do We Know it Works? by Tetyana Obukhanych Ph.D

    Vaccine Choice Prayer Community – A blog for people researching vaccines

    No need to offer anti-vaxxers “false Balance” by Sylvia Stead – Globe & Mail

    Voices for Vaccines - the purveyors of the “false balance” doctrine

    Representative Bill Posey's Letter to Mark Zuckerberg (pdf)

    Interview with a Retired Vaccine Researcher by Jon Rappaport - “Mark was well aware of the scope of the medical cartel and its goals of depopulation, mind control, and general debilitation of populations.”

    *****

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    Quote Dr Bruce Lipton: His views on Vaccinations - we’ve got it all wrong

    The nature of vaccinations and the role of our immune system is a topic that is not really understood by the conventional public.It is generally accepted that controlling the immune system to create antibodies against germs or parasites that try to attack us, is successfully done by vaccines. Parents are pressured to vaccinate their children.It is accepted that we can create an immune response by taking foreign elements, bacteria, viruses, and parasites, or pieces of these elements, and putting them into a solution, and then injecting it under our skin.

    This is to invoke the immune system to make a response against these invasive foreign materials or antigens.

    Generally we believe that the vaccines are the way to program the immune system to protect us from environmental parasites, bacteria and viruses. Therefore we have bought into the system of artificially putting these antigens under our skin to invoke an immune response. The question of whether this is beneficial or not, is now coming into the open.

    Bruce address this issue from the point of view that immunology has made a misunderstanding about something very important called the tonsils!

    He says, “If you recognize the nature of infants and their behaviour you realise that infants put everything they can find and fit into their mouths. Their own fists, arms, feet, anything they find in their cot, anything you hand them they will instinctively put it into their mouths.”

    This is not an accident this is nature's natural immune vaccination system. What the baby is doing is sampling the environment. Everything it can reach will inevitably end up in its mouth! By this process the infant is actually introducing antigens into the immune system and initiating an immune response.

    Bruce expands on this, drawing on his extensive scientific background. He also speaks candidly about the role of the pharmaceutical companies in this.

    Currently we're finding an epidemic in regard to allergic reactions or hypersensitivity. We're also finding that people are bringing in the concept that autism is seems to be associated with the widespread use of vaccines, so there are very profound questions out there as to the safety of using vaccines to create immune responses.

    In infancy when we give a large amount of vaccines to the child their immune systems aren't tooled up to handle so much, especially coming from an introduction that is not normal in any sense of biology, so basically forcing the immune system to respond to these vaccinations in an abnormal way is not in the best interest of the body’s system.

    It is not the way it normally deals with it, and therefore that we are beginning to find that vaccines are very likely causing many kinds of problems. What is introduced into the system is not just the foreign cells and bacteria and the viruses or pieces of the parasites that they use, but also the chemistry in which the vaccines are created, which include a lot of mercury and aluminium and a lot of other things such as formaldehyde, which are poisons.

    This is an attempt to enhance the immune system, but at the same time it is essentially overpowering it with poisons and toxins.

    So Bruce has come to the conclusion that if we want the best vaccine system in the world we should actually focus on creating oral vaccines in nature's original way.


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    Dr Kenneth Stollar of Physicians For Informed Consent is vocal about his opinions

    Quote Why Marinites are Opting out of Childhood Vaccines
    Dr. Kenneth Stoller's reply to the Pacific Sun feature article "The Needle and the Damage Done" on why Marinites are opting out of childhood vaccines:

    "As someone who lives in Marin County and who was trained as a pediatrician, and who was board certified for over two decades, I think I have some standing to comment on this issue.

    "Why... if the measles vaccine is effective do outbreaks happen in populations of 99.7% vaccination? Where is the herd immunity so prized by vaccine advocates?

    "The number of flu infections reported each year by the CDC are so super-inflated that they have become meaningless because what is actually being reported are cases of pneumonia, while mainstream media parrots CDC press releases about flu deaths in children that had other, far more serious simultaneous infections.

    "Whopping cough is “back” due to herd immunity rates dropping? The truth is that pertussis is cyclical, immunity to it cannot be defined, and researchers at Johns Hopkins knew even 20 years ago that herd immunity to whooping cough could never be achieved through vaccination. In fact, recent research indicates those who get vaccinated turn into Whooping Cough Marys, because while they may not get sick if they get infected they become carriers.

    "Vaccines can be effective at increasing antibody levels to certain aspects of pathological organisms, but the truth is that antibody production only tells half of the immunity story.

    "Vaccination is not equal to natural infection, and even the FDA admits that aluminum adjuvant vaccines cannot produce cell-mediated immunity, which is the basis of herd immunity.

    "We are told vaccines are safe but does that include developing a deadly peanut allergy, or anti-NMDA receptor encephalitis? We are told vaccines donÂ’t cause autism while the research literature reports on how to make autistic mice in the laboratory by creating a viral infection in pregnant mothers.

    "Yes those same cytokines they don't want pregnant moms to have explode if they get the flu still explode if they get the mercury laced flu vaccine.

    "And while on the subject of mercury, Merck admitted in 1991 they were exposing children to 87 times the toxic levels of mercury that should be eaten, and the FDA didn't intervene for almost a decade.

    "But no need to be concerned about mercury anymore because amounts are now only trace in only certain vaccines.

    "Trace… the deadliest non radioactive element on the planet"… it is like saying "don't worry there is only trace amounts of cyanide in this fruit punch.”

    "Injected aluminum in the two-month vaccination schedule exceeds the amount of aluminum allowed intravenously by a factor of 20.

    "Are we to trust that the current the vaccine schedule is safe even though the schedule has never been tested for safety - not 30 years ago, not today, not ever!

    "Herd immunity is an unproven theory and while it sounds good on paper immunity is not always what vaccines create... they create antibodies to certain aspects of the organisms being vaccinated against, but not necessarily actual immunity.

    "As a physician I am disgusted that vaccines are fast tracked for approval without proper safety trials. When the Government itself (via the NIH) owns patent rights to vaccine technology which they license to Pharma they are not just in bed with Pharama they have merged with Pharma, so they fast tracked the dangerous and worthless HPV vaccine that is killing children world wide (Japan just banned it from their vaccine schedule).

    "Dr.Andrew Wakefield was drawn an quartered for his paper that suggested their may be a possible link between the MMR, intestinal inflammation, and neurological injury in children even though it has been replicated several times and now his partner Professor John Walker Smith was recently exonerated of all charges, proving that the allegations of fraud propagated against Dr. Wakefield were unfounded.

    "There is a difference between truth and propaganda.

    "Don't rely on some paid Internet troll-whore to tell you what is reality and what isnÂ’t. Don't rely on the compromised CDC, where the Infectious Disease Division has been bleed out from the inside by Pharma, and don't believe me!

    "Read the package inserts for certain vaccines and you will see as one of the potential side-effects being "autism."

    "The truth is out there, and that is why some of the citizens of Marin County are very, very wary of vaccines. We are tired of being experimented on for the profit of others.

    "I have testified, at the request of the US Congress, to talk about some of these issues in front of the Government Reform and Oversight Committee, and do you know what I have been told behind closed doors?

    "I have been told that those in the US Government who know, and that is most of the upper level administrators of the FDA and CDC and a heck of a lot of Congressman as well - they all know vaccines, and environmental toxins, such as pesticides, are the cause of the autism epidemic... THEY ALREADY KNOW... they just don't want you to know.

    "Think about it." -Dr Kenneth Stoller, MDhttps://vaccine-injury.info/dr-kenne...s-cause-autism
    He is now being targeted

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    The San Francisco city attorney is investigating whether Dr. Kenneth Stoller is handing out bogus medical exemptions.
    Tracy Connor
    8:01 PM ET
    SPOTTY RECORDS?
    San Francisco Subpoenas Anti-Vax Dr. Kenneth Stoller’s Files

    San Francisco officials have subpoenaed the medical records of an anti-vaxxer doctor to determine if he gave bogus medical exemptions to parents who didn’t want to immunize their kids.

    The investigation comes as the nation grapples with a growing number of measles outbreaks fueled by vaccine skeptics and opponents who believe the shots are harmful for children despite a pile of studies showing they are safe.

    “As a community, we have a responsibility to each other,” City Attorney Dennis Herrera said in a statement Wednesday announcing the probe of Dr. Kenneth Stoller, who has promoted the debunked theory that vaccines cause autism.

    “There are children who have serious medical conditions that prevent them from getting vaccinated. The scary thing is those are the kids most at risk when somebody engages in medical exemption deception. If someone uses a medical exemption they don’t qualify for and introduces unvaccinated children into that environment, the kids who legitimately can’t get a vaccine—and ultimately the general public—are the ones in real danger.”

    ALARMING
    It’s Terrifyingly Easy to Get Measles Vaccine Exemptions
    Kaiser Health News

    Stoller’s attorney, Rick Jaffe, said they had not yet received the subpoena but would be fighting it.

    “He has no legal basis to make this request,” Jaffe said. “He has no evidence.”

    Three years ago, California passed a strict vaccine law that prohibits children from attending school unless their immunizations are up to date and bars parents from opting out for religious or philosophical reasons.

    Only a medical exemption allows an unvaccinated kid to attend a public or private school. Herrera said reasons could include an allergy to vaccine components or because a child is undergoing chemotherapy.

    Jaffe acknowledged that Stoller issues exemptions based on other factors, including genetic tests such as 23andMe and family history. “He stands by the exemptions he has written,” the lawyer said.

    Jaffe also said privacy of the health records is protected by law. Herrera, however, is seeking anonymized records with any information that would identify individual patients redacted.

    Since the 2016 law, SB 277, was passed in the wake of a measles outbreak at Disneyland, the number of medical exemptions has quadrupled, leaving health officials suspicious that some are invalid.

    There have been three measles cases reported in the Bay Area in recent months, but medical authorities fear the stage is set for a larger outbreak because of low vaccination rates and high medical exemptions at a cluster of schools.

    They worry about a repeat of the outbreak sweeping through the Orthodox Jewish community in New York City, where officials say some yeshivas have flouted an emergency order to ban unvaccinated kids.

    The number of measles cases nationwide hit 764 this week, the highest since the disease was deemed eradicated in 2000.
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    "The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction (i.e., the reality of experience) and the distinction between true and false (i.e., the standards of thought) no longer exist."
    Hannah Arendt, The Origins of Totalitarianism

    Another older video approaches the broad issue of indoctrination into the Medical Industrial Complex

    Quote April Boden on Vaccines and the Medical Industrial Complex
    Published on Apr 20, 2017
    April Boden joins Our Interesting Times to discuss the risks of vaccines as well as the origins of the medical industrial complex and how it relates to the New World Order.
    April is the mother of three children, a former podcast host and a blogger. Her son Aydan contracted autism at age one after being vaccinated.
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    Just for fun? When conspiracy is an appropriate designation but people think that FunVax sounds like a good thing.



    Quote Stranger and Stranger Vaccines: Are We Being Fleeced?
    by Marco Cáceres
    Published December 6, 2016 | Opinion

    The World Health Organization (WHO) defines a vaccine as a “biological preparation that improves immunity to a particular disease.” The WHO further states that a vaccine “typically contains an agent that resembles a disease-causing microorganism” and that it is “often made from weakened or killed forms of the microbe, its toxins or one of its surface proteins.”1

    The idea is for the weakened or killed microbes to stimulate the “body’s immune system to recognize the agent as foreign, destroy it, and “remember” it, so that the immune system can more easily recognize and destroy any of these microorganisms that it later encounters.”1 That, in a nutshell, is how the process is supposed to work. Think of microbes as germs or pathogens—microorganisms that sometimes cause infections that can lead to disease.

    Vaccines are specifically designed to combat diseases caused by viruses and bacteria.2 At least that has traditionally been the case. However, there is a growing tendency by the pharmaceutical industry to broaden the meaning of the word “vaccine” and use it interchangeably with medicine or drug, so that now there are all sorts of new vaccines being developed for diseases, illnesses, or conditions that have nothing to do with viruses or bacteria.

    Why call something that’s not really a vaccine a vaccine? Simple. The instant a pharmaceutical company designates something to be a vaccine that company is no longer liable for any harm the product causes. In the case Bruesewitz v. Wyeth, the U.S. Supreme Court on February 22, 2011 said that Food and Drug Administration (FDA) licensed vaccines are “unavoidably unsafe” and voted to shield pharmaceutical companies from civil “liability for harm caused by vaccines recommended and mandated by government.”3

    What a sweet deal for Big Pharma. As Barbara Loe Fisher of the National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC) said shortly after the 2011 Supreme Court decision was handed down, “It is a drug company stockholder’s dream,” but it is a “health care consumer’s worst nightmare and a prescription for tyranny.”3

    No accountability or financial liability for an entire product line. So, of course, why not expand that product line as much as possible and offer it for just about anything that ails anyone? After all, under such a risk free scenario, the only financial hazard for vaccine manufacturers is not selling enough of their products. Of course, with government mandating vaccines even the problem of poor sales is largely alleviated.

    Now, it seems that every time you scan the latest headlines about vaccines, there is a new vaccine in the works for something that has absolutely nothing to do with a virus or bacteria. For example, they’re working on a vaccine for stress.4 5 6 There’s one for preventing high cholesterol.7 One to help stop cigarette smoking.8 One for obesity.9 One for sea lice.10 Oh, and one to cure homosexuality and pedophilia.11 It’s endless.

    There is even, apparently, a vaccine being developed called FunVax, which is short for “Fundamentalist Vaccine,” aimed at modifying the behavior of religious fundamentalist terrorists. In a lecture presentation on FunVax published as a video on YouTube last year (click here), the speaker states:

    So, our hypothesis is that these are fanatical people, that they have overexpression of the VMAT2 gene and that, by vaccinating them against this, we’ll eliminate this behavior.12

    So we’re going to be vaccinating to manipulate certain genes and behaviors? Mind control?

    Back in the 1970s, U.S. Senator William Proxmire of Wisconsin came up with the idea of giving an award to government officials for wasting public money. It was kind of a booby prize for public projects that just seemed to defy common sense. It was a clever way to help uncover wasteful government spending. Sen. Proxmire called it the Order of the Golden Fleece, and from 1975 to 1988 he awarded the Golden Fleece 168 times.13

    Perhaps the time has come to revive Sen. Proxmire’s initiative and offer up our own modified version of the Golden Fleece. (Yes, I know… fleece, sheep… I get it.) Our award would be for the strangest vaccines in the pipeline—the ones that might make the average person stop and wonder, “Are they serious?” I’ve already cited a few candidates currently in the running for the first TVR Golden Fleece award. I would gladly welcome additional suggestions.
    Leaked Pentagon Video Shows Vaccine Designed to ~ Modify Behavior ~

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    Quote Whether this video is a hoax or not is not the point - because this is being done and has been for at least a few decades now. Read the US Supreme Court decision CIA v Sims, 471 U.S. 159 (1985). People thought for a long time that MKULTRA was just a "conspiracy theory", until this case came to general knowledge. Aerosol spraying of biological IS being done, along with the aluminum and barium nanoparticlulates. Video evidence has been posted on many sites, as has been the lab results. Morgellon's disease is no longer being pooh-pooh'd by doctors. This video is included in another post related to Assange (titled "Julian Assange's last word's "Intelligent Evil Dust, it's everywhere in everything" cut off air.") - the argument being given at one point in the post by those who advocate using aerosol spraying to control global warming is fallacious, because we CAN'T do it at the height they suggest. The proposal was that it be done in the stratosphere.

    Problem is, we CAN'T do "stratospheric" aerosol injection - at least with jet aircraft - because THEY CAN'T FLY THERE. In fact, the research points out that what will happen will be exactly what you're saying about it - it will literally heat up the atmosphere and Earth instead of cooling it. So why are they spraying IN the troposphere? I think it's obvious. I witnessed the fall of organic material (I was a biomedical research tech many years ago) from the sky in No AZ back in '85. Long white twisted threads (looked like what is called a tertiary structure) of material which clumped up and turned to a gel on plants, the ground and a car. It ate holes in the car paint! Spider webs (which is what most people thought they were) do not eat holes in a hard enamel paint surface. It happened again in Las Vegas around 1996 - and did the same thing to a whole parking lot of cars. I've been telling people about this for 33 years (and have been called all kinds of things for it), but it wasn't until Cliff Carnicom started his website, then Dane Wigington, before people began paying attention.

    Look up the Centibot program at Stanford Research Institute. Then imagine that technology reduced to nanobot size.

    Also, I've seen this Pentagon presentation many years ago. What I did NOT notice until now is that those brain scans seem to be of the SAME brain - and NOT two different individuals. Look at them closely. They have what appears to be exactly the same folds and fissures in the same places, the same bony ridges, the same irregularities in the skull. Looks like the guy was pulling the wool over these officer's eyes to get them to approve funding for the program. Thing is, they were probably already doing it - because in MY experience in research, both with university and DoD contractors, that's what goes on. The SDI program, popularly known as "Star Wars", was already up in space and operational BEFORE Reagan started stumping for funding of it back in the 80's. I know that because a grad student at a university where I worked told me about having worked at Hughes on communication lasers which were used on the space-based weapons systems that were ALREADY up there in orbit - back in 1982.

    From my experience in both industrial/Dod and university research, what we are told, and what we see in films and on TV, is AT LEAST 7 years and more often 15 - 30 years behind what the military is already doing. We're just being psychologically prepped to accept the ideas in movies and advertising over that time frame. So if this video is really from '05 and "leaked" in 2011 (or earlier), you can bet they already had the program up and running long before then and this is just admitting to it after the fact.


    Vmat2, FunVax Vaccine and Adrenochrome - a tentative investigation

    Interview With Joey Lambardi About The Fundamentalism Vaccine (FunVax)
    Posted on April 25, 2011

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    Quote What Really Happened In Connecticut? Yale Bailed & Vaccine Knowledge Censorship Continues

    Religious and parental rights have been under siege in Connecticut since the 2019 legislative session began. Parents, doctors, chiropractors, clergy, independent journalists and other concerned citizens have been attending and testifying at the Capitol since early February to fight pending legislation that seeks to eliminate religious exemptions for unvaccinated or under-vaccinated children from attending public school. According to the progressives in Hartford, the “measles is a deadly outbreak,” and our vaccine-free and symptom-free children are a “public threat.”

    Since Representative Josh Elliott (D) was one of several Connecticut legislators pushing bills to mandate vaccinations and remove religious exemptions, LeeAnn Ducat founder of Informed Choice USA, pushed for Elliott to host a public forum to discuss and debate the safety of vaccines. Yale doctors were invited by Elliott, who attempted to stack the deck with those that believed the “science is settled.” Ducat asked Robert F Kennedy, Jr. to participate along with a board-certified nephrologist, a neurologist, a pediatrician, and a research scientist. After weeks of negotiation, Yale only agreed to allow Robert Kennedy, Jr. to join the panel in an attempt to refute his claims, with each panelist promised only 5 minutes. Finally, less than two weeks in advance, The Science of Vaccines Forum was announced for Tuesday, March 19th from 9am-11am with 90 minutes of Q&A from the public. The Yale panelists were Dr. Brett Lindenbach, Dr. Sandra Carbonaro, MD, Dr. Gene Shapiro, Dr. Linda Niccolai.

    On Wednesday, March 12, Representative Josh Elliott (D), Representative Liz Linehan (D) and House Majority Leader Matt Ritter (D) held a press conference at the capital to discuss the importance of vaccine mandates and went as far as banning the hundreds of moms and dads from attending and shut the doors on the public. It was a pharma puppet show.

    On Friday, March 14, it was announced that after the vaccine forum, Kennedy would hold a bipartisan press conference with Representative Anne Dauphinais (R) and Representative Jack Hennessy(D) about the complex issue of vaccine mandates from 12-2pm.

    Despite their 5 to 1 advantage, in the dead of night, Yale Bailed!

    An email was sent from Josh Elliott to Kennedy and Ducat at 11:06 pm the night before.

    “A number of doctors dropped out an hour ago, and our forum will have to be canceled. I’m very sorry for this and pushed them to reconsider. Wasn’t happening.” -Josh Elliott

    On his Facebook news feed, however, he says, “First thing, Yale did not bail. I decided to cancel the forum.” Ducat replied, “Kennedy flew 3,000 miles to get here, Yale doctors couldn’t drive 30 minutes, and Josh Elliott couldn’t even make it down the escalator to shake Kennedy’s hand. How rude.”

    The press conference and presentation went along as planned, and Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. educated the public, legislators and the media. He clearly explained (with proof) the regulatory capture of our governmental agencies by the pharmaceutical industry. Kennedy outlined the complete government failure of all the regulatory agencies including the CDC. He told how manipulation, corruption, distortion, and suppression of scientific information had threatened vaccine science for years. He discussed how these corporations influence the use of science in legislative decision making to serve their own trillion dollar interests.

    “The last thing standing between a greedy industry and a vulnerable child is the mom.

    - Robert F Kennedy, Jr.

    Kennedy explained at length the dangerous side effects of vaccines and how truth is covered up by the pharma companies to protect their profits, stating “They all have the same story. They had a perfectly healthy child. They believed strongly in vaccines. They took their child to get vaccinated, and the vaccine injured their child. They know what happened to their children. We need vaccines to go through the same rigorous safety testing as other medication, and we need inert placebo vaccine studies.”

    Kennedy also spoke about censorship, calling out Amazon, Pinterest, Facebook, and others. He states that Jack Dorsey, the co-founder of Twitter will not censor and encouraged all to reach out to him to give thanks.

    He referenced how the mainstream press has been complicit in massive deceit campaigns dating back to the Vietnam War, and how they protected the Catholic Church during the pedophile scandal. Even after Kennedy’s damning PowerPoint presentation, and calling out the press, it quickly became clear nothing has changed. From the poorly written and slanted bias of articles written by local news outlets, it was apparent that the journalists were not listening to the information, including multiple verified sources cited by Kennedy. Not one article published from the mainstream news platform was objective. It can only come from cognitive dissonance, willful ignorance or they were coached on how to respond. One even went as far as to write about Kennedy’s voice condition to try to paint him as weak and discredit him.

    “Democracy does not function if you don’t have free speech and free debate.”

    - Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.

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