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    Default Lyme disease: is it a bioweapon?

    Here is a new article by Mike Adams.

    The secret history of Lyme disease, which was originally developed by the military as a biological weapon for depopulation

    https://naturalnews.com/2019-04-30-the-secret-history-of-lyme-disease-biological-weapon-for-depopulation.html

    There's nothing new there, but from what I heard, tobacco can be extremely helpful when used as part of herbal mix.
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    Lyme disease
    Lyme disease (so named for the town in ConnecticutWikipedia's W.svg, where researchers discovered it while investigating why the hell so many people from there and the neighboring town of Old Lyme were getting what appeared to be rheumatoid arthritis) is an infectious disease carried by certain types of ticks, especially deer ticks. The disease is caused primarily by the bacteria Borrelia burgdorferi in the United States, and by B. afzelii and B. garinii in Europe. Symptoms include headache, fever, fatigue, and a distinctive rash. Diagnosing Lyme disease without a visible rash can be confirmed by performing tests known as an ELISA and a Western blot, though this is not recommended for those with non‐specific symptoms like chronic fatigue.[1] Because doctors only recently discovered it in 1977, Lyme is not as well understood as other diseases. This leaves it rife with woo.

    When Europeans first came to the United States it was rampant, among them and the Indians who lived in or near forests. Accounts of North America dating back to the 1700s clearly describe its hallmark symptoms, and as early as 1762 a Scottish doctor managed to connect them to the presence of ticks. As colonists deforested large swathes of the eastern United States it became far less frequent, as ticks no longer had much in the way of habitat. When much of this area, especially New England, subsequently became reforested, the disease accordingly made a significant comeback.

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    If the Indians knew about the disease, then how come doctors "re-discovered" it in 1977?
    The Lyme disease is a weaponized version, using some kind of spirochete.

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    According to the article, the doctors discovered that it was caused by the bacteria which I presume was living in the guts of the ticks.
    Certainly this kind of knowledge was not available to either the Indians or the settlers.
    Having said, I don't think there exists a disease caused by bacteria, virus, prions, etc... that cannot be weaponized.

    ANYTHING can be weaponized.

    Even the Mongols used germ warfare by dropping diseased plauge meat into the water wells. https://www.ancient-origins.net/news...warfare-003188


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    Quote Posted by Intranuclear (here)

    Even the Mongols used germ warfare
    More recently, the British used smallpox against George Washinton's army as a bioweapon.
    https://io9.gizmodo.com/british-used...ndence-5832968

    As for the Black Death, there were no wars raging in Europe at that time, so other causes must be considered.

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    "Lyme" is a bio-weapon. No doubt about it. The pathogen escaped the lab on the island by accident, either by wind, bird or otherwise.

    https://www.dr-rath-foundation.org/2...fare-research/

    It was a blessing in disguise, because they were trying to make something much worse.

    Eastern medicine is fine, but it takes too long to heal.
    Regular antibiotics have too many side effects and are not effective.

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    Didge, can you please provide some sort of corroboration for your claim about Lyme being a bio weapon? I worked with "scientists" who were studying Lyme disease, or the "cure". Dr. M*&io Ph*&**ip was the head of the department, which studied Lyme disease among other pathogens and it is my understanding he had patented the test for it in humans; i.e. were they positive for having the disease?

    What are you basing your claim on? About it being a pathogen that escaped the lab?

    Edit: They were studying the disease and not necessarily the cure. But, Dr. Phi99ipe was the head of that department. They all had lifelong jobs. Sorry for being a cynic. It comes with the job.
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    Quote Posted by Valerie Villars (here)
    Didge, can you please provide some sort of corroboration for your claim about Lyme being a bio weapon? I worked with "scientists" who were studying Lyme disease, or the "cure". Dr. M*&io Ph*&**ip was the head of the department, which studied Lyme disease among other pathogens and it is my understanding he had patented the test for it in humans; i.e. were they positive for having the disease?

    What are you basing your claim on? About it being a pathogen that escaped the lab?
    https://www.dr-rath-foundation.org/2...fare-research/

    https://headlinehealth.com/did-lyme-...overnment-lab/
    Did Lyme Disease Escape From This Secret USDA Lab? - Headline ...
    "Access from your area has been temporarily limited for security reasons"
    It ought to tell you something.

    So many "scientists" have been working on cancer, for example, and yet they haven't discovered the cure.
    Sad to say, many have no intention of "discovering" the cure, because it's like killing the goose that lays golden eggs. Oh yes, they are very good at testing.
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    Default Re: Lyme disease: is it a bioweapon?

    Valerie,

    You might be interested in these contributions made by Hervé


    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post842549

    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post842667

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    Default Lymes Disease as Biological Warfare

    I find it interesting that mainstream media is running the story today about the investigation of the Pentagon as possibly creating the Lymes disease epidemic here in the US. I first heard the story on Fox evening news on the TV tonight, and couldn't believe they were bringing the possibility up at all. (although "conspiracy" sites have been speculating about this for years.)

    The Fox News report is here:

    House orders Pentagon to reveal whether it turned ticks into biological weapons

    Further news searches showed the story popping today up on CBS, The Washington Post, USA Today, and even Popular Mechanics:

    So...Did the Pentagon Use Ticks for Biological Warfare?
    Is the Pentagon responsible for the epidemic of Lyme disease?


    Anyway - this has me rather astounded! Why do you suppose they are running with this?

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    https://sites.newpaltz.edu/ticktalk/...randa-dumitru/

    I read the book referred to in the article above about the disease escaping from Lab 257 Plum Island experimental disease facility NY, now closed down. Absolutely jawdropping risks taken, and I do believe this was released deliberately.
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    Some members of the U.S. Government and the mainstream media seem to be admitting yet another crazy conspiracy theory may be actually true, that Lyme's Disease may come from weaponized ticks originating in a U.S. Government laboratory as part of a bioweapons program. Newsweek is just one MSM news outlet covering it:

    Quote Pentagon May Have Released Weaponized Ticks That Helped Spread of Lyme Disease: Investigation Ordered
    https://www.newsweek.com/pentagon-we...gation-1449737
    By Aristos Georgiou On 7/17/19

    Last week, the U.S. House of Representatives quietly passed a bill requiring the Inspector General of the Department of Defense (DoD) to conduct a review into whether the Pentagon experimented with ticks and other blood-sucking insects for use as biological weapons between 1950 and 1975.

    If the Inspector General finds that such experiments occurred, then, according to the bill, they must provide the House and Senate Armed Services committees with a report on the scope of the research and "whether any ticks or insects used in such experiments were released outside of any laboratory by accident or experiment design," potentially leading to the spread of diseases such as Lyme.

    The amendment was put forward by Rep. Chris Smith, a Republican from New Jersey, who was "inspired" by several books and articles claiming that the U.S. government had conducted research at facilities such as Fort Detrick, Maryland, and Plum Island, New York, for this purpose.
    This theory was actually mentioned in the National Geographic magazine in 2014. The article focuses on whether or not Lyme’s is sexually transmittable, or if a 5,300-year-old mummy known as Ötzi the Iceman, had Lyme’s, but also, buried in the middle of the article, it states:

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    One theory—compelling but controversial—about the sudden emergence of the disease in Connecticut blames the accidental release of infected ticks during experiments at Plum Island Animal Disease Center, on Long Island Sound about eight miles south of Lyme.

    Originally operated by the U.S. Army, then by the Department of Agriculture, and now by the Department of Homeland Security, the facility's official mandate is defense research relating to agricultural bioterrorism.

    A book by Michael Carroll called Lab 257 cites post-World War II experiments on Plum Island that involved using ticks as disease vectors for germ warfare.

    Officials have denied the allegations, but Carroll and others—including former Minnesota Gov. Jesse Ventura—allege the government has used the facility to develop various diseases intended for delivery as biological weapons.


    from:What Is Lyme Disease? New Findings Deepen the Mystery
    https://news.nationalgeographic.com/...-tick-science/
    The episode of Jesse Ventura’s “Conspiracy Theory” was released in 2010. One thing that it mentioned that Newsweek and National Geographic did not, was Dr. Eric Traub. Traub worked directly for Heinrich Hmmmler researching biological weapons on Riems Island (Germany’s equivalent to Plum Island.) Traub was brought to the United States under Operation Paperclip to work for Naval Medical Research and had visited Fort Terry on Plum Island several times, where the U.S. was doing bioweapons reserach. Just 10 miles to the North of Plum Island, across the Long Island Sound is Old Lyme Connecticut, where, in the 1970s, Lyme’s disease made it’s first appearance.


    I find it interesting that so many ideas that were “crazy conspiracy theorists” on Project Avalon have been discussing about for at least a decade are suddenly recognized as serious matters. One thinks of the UFO phenomena which is now taken seriously by the New York Times. Or the idea that pedophilia and sex slavery trafficking is a much bigger phenomena and connected to well known public figures which we now know from the posthumous exposure of Jimmy Savile’s crimes and the arrest of Jeffrey Epstein. What’s next?

    Mod note by Constance: I've merged this thread here with MSM and US Government now acknowledge the reality of weaponised Ticks and question origins of Lyme's disease.
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    Default Re: Lymes Disease as Biological Warfare

    Maybe the source of the disease is the reason Lyme sufferers have historically been ignored and dismissed as mentally off balance or hypochondriacs by many health care "professionals", at least in the US.

    Ayt, you ask a really important question. Why is this information being revealed now? It seems there is always an ulterior motive. The days of presenting new for news sake seem to be over.

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    I had a friend who was upstate NY from UK in early 80’s, wandered in undergrowth, came back to UK, got dreadfully ill, inexplicable symptoms, almost died, then Lyme Disease was discovered. She went through dreadful suffering, as in the UK this was unheard of at the time, and has since died.
    Now tick-borne Lyme disease is prevalent probably across Europe and may even be global?
    After reading all the research documentation, a ground-breaking book, and seeing what is happening in our UK agricultural/rural communities, this release from Plum Island is very effective, but now costing our Health Services millions to try to remedy. There should be recompense for this irresponsibility.

    However, I am unsure as to why this just surfaced in MSM...., perhaps someone of ‘importance’ is claiming to be affected.... I do know that some Hollywood personalities claim to have been damaged.
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    One thought that did cross my mind was when I heard the mention of "working now to develop a good vaccine" or some-such...

    Could the intended vaccine be part of the reason for the release(?)

    Mo' Money for pharma?
    More genetic altering?
    More population control?

    I can't imagine any kind of compensation resulting, as the number of people with lymes, or who have had lymes, or who claim to have lymes is massive.

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    There is also money to be made on testing to see if a person has Lyme Disease. As I recall a scientist at the Tulane National Primate Research Center, Dr. Mario Phillipe was instrumental in developing the test through millions of dollars in government grant money for research.
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    Paul made a great contribution to the Lyme Disease discussion from a different thread back in 2017. Here's his quote:

    "I prefer the explanation that Lyme Disease is caused by a more virulent form of Borrelia Burgdorferi that escaped from Plum Island, which is near Lyme, Connecticut, and which is the home of Plum Island Animal Disease Center, where biological weapons are developed (or offically it is claimed to be where animal diseases are studied.) See further for example this curezone.org article."

    The history in that well researched article is what I tend to believe as well. They were trying to combat … was it Mad Cow's? … using ticks as a delivery vehicle. I'll have to reread it again. :-)

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    Long post but it covers the designer diseases and possible people to look at, so please do read the whole thing..

    I have MS, as well as a few other "Related" less significant conditions. And in my own research of said things, I came to find some disturbing things.. The way in which these conditions tend to be in one belt on the map, but then they further spread as a result of people relocating.. The times in which each "Group" tends to be affected. I worked in a place where 5 people came down with the same thing around the same time, and one had a daughter that came down with a mutated version of the condition.. and given the number of employees this not only seemed impossible but it led towards it being possibly deliberate. I started to ask questions..

    Where were you during "This" time frame? And I found astonishing information by dong so, we all seemed to be living in the same area when the symptoms began manifesting. None of us doing anything high risk that should bring this on. Where we lived was quite telling as well. Because there are plenty of regions on this country map that have ticks, and other things without these pockets of autoimmune conditions breaking out.

    While I will never be free of the condition, I no longer have sudden outbreaks of symptoms or "exacerbations", unless I myself overdo something. But I also went on 2 different clinical research drug studies to accomplish this. And if you ask me we DO have cures to such things, or at least the perpetuation of disability as a result of finding yourself with said conditions. But they're NOT marketing this stuff. That says a LOT to me.

    THANK YOU ABBOTT LABS... For allowing me to be one of those people that got their life back. (Did I just disclose the company with the answers?) OOPS...

    They're not stupid. Those of us "figuring it out", with the means to research such things with the internet at our fingertips, are really FORCING some companies to suddenly "Grow a conscious".. With these companies now able to find what people are searching at the touch of their fingertips, they're fully aware that people have suspicions, and that they're quickly going to be singled out for what they're doing... I suppose it is better to pretend like thy didn't know that they were benefiting from a created crisis, than to admit they had some part in creating it. It's all abut DAMAGE CONTROL at this point. All across the board.

    The treatments and tests for this disease alone are astounding. Shots at almost $2,000 a month, scans tests, labs, Not to mention the pharmaceutical profit to slow the symptoms so people can still function to afford their insurance coverage, What a nightmare, How revolting some humans are. To do such things to others. Devices to assist people with said conditions, home remodels to accommodate disabilities, etc. The list goes on and on.

    But the question then becomes...

    WHO did it, have we been attacked by air by other countries? IE, them dropping some things into our environment? That is something to consider and I DO NOT know this, so I would never lose my focus on that fact.. Surely the government would put a lid on that so quickly as they would lose their sense of control over the masses to admit they can't stop such things,(If it was an air attack) ... it would be classified at the highest levels. And there HAVE BEEN studies of people dropping bugs from altitude to see if they survived, seriously, look it up! I did.. So then we have to question, WERE we attacked in this way? And if so? Who did it? Do we follow the jet streams to figure out where balloons would come from if this happened? Would doing so give us a clear picture over who the military attacked next and the TRUE reasons why?

    The tendency tends to be to not trust those in the military.. The governments. What if we should be, and they're stopping mass panic by suggesting that we have been at war all along? The Chinese, (I think it was them) we're sending bombs to America soil using the jet streams to carry them... I think in the 50's and SOME LANDED.. They stopped the press coverage of such things immediately so that they would think they weren't making contact, and thereby give up on the attacks in this fashion... ! Not to keep us from knowing it was happening.

    At this point you then begin to get a different look at these agencies. They truly are doing their jobs, so there is a place for such things. Using "Any means necessary".. Keeping mass panic from ensuing, by not telling people openly, while they find creative solutions to the problem, ie, no reports of them landing in the press? Well it does become a good option. But as American's we want FREE PRESS.. At what cost? Who determines who has a need to know?

    Surely those that do find the reasons good enough to NOT post it in the newspaper. Perhaps that WAS the "Roswell" balloon.. And it would quickly scare the masses to learn as much. Perhaps it wasn't "Aliens" at all, but those Chinese bombs? Complete with the "Christmas tape".. Who knows. But certainly they WOULD have a good reason for keeping such things a secret. People would PANIC.

    "Sure, put up an alien" let people believe we have neighbors" would be the best course of action. Perhaps those balloons killed a group of children... That would stir another HUGE WAR.. So better they keep a lid on it! The other "Crashes" then would also begin to make a lot more sense. I never did believe that high tech advanced flying craft were brought down by new radars to begin with. More likely weather balloons being sent up into the jet stream landing, and actually killing people. But do you go to war over a few deaths? Killing many more people in the process? And who do you blame? Has anyone ever even considered such a thing in their research of "Rosewell"? Because if you haven't you're not worth your weight as a researcher.

    We would never hear of such things, so of course we would want to point to our own governments for such things as they certainly wouldn't be telling us that we are quietly being attacked. THAT WOULD weaken a population and the support of the common wealth against the establishment. Which IS happening now. So who becomes the voice of reason? Broaden your scope of the true possibilities of such things folks. Don't be so sure that everything is what it seems.. You have to keep an open mind on such things.

    Seriously, why would our own government weaken it's own population when a strong population is needed to keep them in power, and strong? You're really not looking at the whole picture here. In my humble opinion. I like to think I am intelligent, and intelligence agencies do not hire people that are not able to consider more options.. They would need open minded individuals so they don't miss anything. While I would never work for such an agency, I could see why they would find someone who has a broader perspective desirable as an employee.. I wouldn't hire someone who had staunch views, unable to ponder other possibilities, and if we want to be considered an intelligent source of information, we too must ponder other options for such things. It just makes good common sense.

    So what ARE we truly looking at with these new outbreaks of "Designer diseases"? Who truly is to blame? Our own biowarfare scientists? Or someone else entirely? Before we sentence our own community to death for such a thing, we should ponder the broader community, this is a very large planet. And some of our neighbors don't like us much, for good reason. We are the bullies in the sandbox...

    What I am saying is, I haven't yet determined what I believe it to be.. But I am keeping all the options on the table... SOMEONE created these conditions in my opinion, but I am not so quick to decide who.. Talking about it is a great start...

    Thank you for the thread! It allows me to say something BEFORE people form their opinions, forcing them to consider more options.. And that's a good thing..
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    Quote Posted by Ayt (here)
    One thought that did cross my mind was when I heard the mention of "working now to develop a good vaccine" or some-such...

    Could the intended vaccine be part of the reason for the release(?)

    Mo' Money for pharma?
    More genetic altering?
    More population control?

    I can't imagine any kind of compensation resulting, as the number of people with lymes, or who have had lymes, or who claim to have lymes is massive.
    Great detective skills, Ayt. Think of the income that could generate. Every person on the East coast and other areas where it has spread. That would be quite a windfall for big pharma not to mention European and other countries. Maybe they need to legitimize it in a sense to be able to promote a vaccine.

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