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    Greetings
    Here in Florida last week it all happened so fast most of us thought it was fake news...it wasn't... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmbY...taWFLWyenxNGZE
    Florida Votes to Overturn First Amendment
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    This is really terrifying to me. We always look at politicians using shooter events for gun control, but this is blatantly a first amendment violation. No one is ever going to legislate banning hate. If anything it will create more resentment to the population of people that might do these types of shootings. It will add fuel to the fire.

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    Slapping some Henry Makow together:
    "... Lenin was a Jewish racist who deliberately gave Jews especially, the most 'intellectually demanding tasks.' He admitted that 50% of the communist terrorist vanguard in the south and west of Russia was comprised of Jews."

    Lenin declared, "We are exterminating the bourgeoisie as a class." His partner in crime, Apfelbaum (Zinoviev) stated: "The interests of the revolution require the physical annihilation of the bourgeoisie class."

    Who were these bourgeoisie? Certainly not Jews. Trotsky gave a clue to their identity in a 1937 interview in the New York Jewish newspaper, Daily Forward: "The longer the rotten bourgeoisie society lives, the more and more barbaric will anti-Semitism become everywhere."

    Bourgeoisie was a Bolshevik code-word for Gentile. The first law passed after the Communists seized power in Russia made anti-semitism a crime punishable by death.

    ... Bolshevism... Zionism... goyim... Gentiles... Bourgeois... White "privileged" ... the tip-toe gradient slope toward some "guillotine" with the very simple Occam's razor of: "If you are not for us, then you can only be against us..." "Clank!"
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    kill everyone else?
    But do you know of a Jew who actually wants to do that?
    That's what the US military is for.

    The State of Israel is likened to a three-story building with a basement.

    Top floor is occupied by European or Ashkenazi Jews.
    Second story by eastern Sefaradi Jews (Jews from Arab countries, Iran, etc.)
    Ground floor by Arabs and Druze with Israeli citizenship, whose land was within 1948 partition.
    Basement where the sun never shines is inhabited by Arabs in the occupied territories since 1967 (Gaza and West Bank) with no human rights whatsoever.

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    So there seems to be a lot of opinion as to who are the zionist. And before we lost track of who they are, They are the bankers and their cohorts. They are not the innocent Israelite, Palestine, Arabs, Americans or anyone for that matter but the bankers maybe their bosses if they have but just follow the bankers and there they are.

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    Quote Posted by TomKat (here)
    kill everyone else?
    But do you know of a Jew who actually wants to do that?
    That's what the US military is for.

    The State of Israel is likened to a three-story building with a basement.

    Top floor is occupied by European or Ashkenazi Jews.
    Second story by eastern Sefaradi Jews (Jews from Arab countries, Iran, etc.)
    Ground floor by Arabs and Druze with Israeli citizenship, whose land was within 1948 partition.
    Basement where the sun never shines is inhabited by Arabs in the occupied territories since 1967 (Gaza and West Bank) with no human rights whatsoever.
    The bible clearly stated that "Israel is the chosen land and the Jews are the chosen people".On the old testament there are also instructions to the supposed chosen people to plunder all the cities they can find, kill all males oldies and young's, except the virgins which they are instructed to bring home" . So there you are their intentions clearly express. But then again its not the Jews as a race who are on these but those who control Israel, America and most of the world. Need I say who they are.

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    Zionism is a totally artificial construct created in the 19th century by the Rothschilds.

    Later on, Nazis rounded up Jews during WWII who refused to migrate to Palestine, because German nationalists and Jewish Zionists wanted a transfer of Jews from Europe to Palestine. Nationalist Germans simply wanted Jews out of Europe. Adolf Eichmann was a Jew fluent in Yiddish and negotiated settlements of these Jews with the older Jewish settlers in Palestine, and that's why Israelis kidnapped him in Argentina and promptly executed him so that the world would never know the truth.

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    kill everyone else?
    But do you know of a Jew who actually wants to do that?
    That's what the US military is for.
    The bible clearly stated that "Israel is the chosen land and the Jews are the chosen people".On the old testament there are also instructions to the supposed chosen people to plunder all the cities they can find, kill all males oldies and young's, except the virgins which they are instructed to bring home" . So there you are their intentions clearly express. But then again its not the Jews as a race who are on these but those who control Israel, America and most of the world. Need I say who they are.
    In the Old Testaments, there are several deities involved and Yahweh is certainly not a friend of humanity.
    The name of Baal, meaning "Lord," a traditional war god worshiped by Canaanites and Israelites, appears in the name of the Carthaginian general Hannibal (in the Punic Wars), which means "grace of Baal."

    The word Punic comes from Phoenicia. Another indication that Canaanites, Israelites and Phoenicians were the same.

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    "Hannibal was one of the sons of Hamilcar Barca, a Carthaginian leader. He was born in what is present day northern Tunisia, one of many Mediterranean regions colonised by the Canaanites from their homelands in Phoenicia. "
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannibal

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    Quote Posted by Tintin (here)
    From Jonathan Cook blog
    (...)In a now familiar pattern to lobby claims, Sacks relied on the false premise that all Jews are Zionists. He conflated a religious or ethnic category with a political ideology. The Labour leader has held his ground on this occasion, pointing out that he was using the term “in the accurate political sense and not as a euphemism for Jewish people”. (...)
    What follows is an abridged version of my post back in January that deals with this hot-button and emotive topic. An understanding of the history of the terminology and how it has been corrupted (deliberately) to take on entirely different meanings in the public psyche - perception management - is very important to be aware of.

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    And Dennis is CORRECT (see his post here)
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    I am going to change the thread title as well, as it is unintentionally oxymoronic, and just plain wrong, beggin' your pardon. (now changed - TQ)

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    When I first saw this thread appear my immediate reaction was - to flag it as a potential car crash due to it likely wheeling quickly out of control. But, I thought again, and, provided a mature, thoughtful, informed and intelligent discussion does take place here then it may well be a very valuable and stimulating one to keep. I've got my fingers crossed

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    These are but a tiny clutch of many synoptic sources on the internet:

    Etymology of the currently most misunderstood words/terms that are bandied around with next to no real understanding of their original and actual meanings:

    Semite (from https://www.druidry.org/events-proje...haemus-lecture) - Section 9 (in itself a mammoth work but actually really very interesting indeed)

    The Eleventh Mount Haemus Lecture | Druidry & Transpersonal History - by Dr Thomas Clough Daffern

    "To Druid thinkers, whether of ancient times, or modern times, the whole notion of anti-Semitism would have been a logical oxymoron: the Semite is etymologically the one who listens, the people who hear – and Phoenicians, Akkadians, Babylonians, Phoenicians, Hebrews and Arabs were all from this conglomeration of tribal peoples." [ my emphases - TQ ]

    Jew (from http://www.wicwiki.org.uk/mediawiki/...Word_%22Jew%22)

    When asked, "Who is Israel? - Who is a Jew?" the Israeli Government's Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MFA) unhesitatingly answered:

    "The term Israelite is purely Biblical. An Israeli is a citizen of Israel, regardless of religion. A Jew is a person anywhere in the world born to a Jewish mother, or converted to Judaism, who is thus identified as a member of the Jewish people and religion"
    (Information Division, Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Jerusalem; February, 1998).

    The Jewish Almanac concurs: "Strictly speaking, it is incorrect to call an ancient Israelite a "Jew." Or to call a contemporary Jew [an] "Israelite," or a "Hebrew." The first Hebrews would not have been Jews at all, and contemporary Palestinians, by their own definition of the term "Palestinian," have to include Jews among their own people" (The Jewish Almanac, October, 1980, page 3, Bantam Books, Inc).

    And, this: Ioudaios derived from the Aramaic jehudhai which did not refer to members of the tribe of Judah but to Judeans, the residents of the Babylonian province of Judea. The spelling of our present-day English word Jew is a transliteration of an abbreviation or slang word coined by their Babylonian conquerors for Judeans without reference to the race or religion of the captives.

    Hebrew/Apiru/Habiru (from: http://www.imninalu.net/habiru.htm)

    From the Papyrus Leiden, dated to the reign of Ramose II, about the year 2510 (1250 b.c.e.), the following statement is made in a letter: "Issue grain to the men of the army and to the Apiru who draw stone for the great pylon of Ramses II". Again we see Apiru in bondage in Egypt down to the time of Ramose II. They were being used as quarrymen and manual labourers.

    These references to the Apiru in Egyptian documents and on monuments show their presence in Egypt, and their social importance, for more than three centuries. The same people are called elsewhere "Habiru" or "Habiri".

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    Related thread: Al Jazeera's "The Lobby" documentary series


    I would disagree.

    https://www.etymonline.com/word/Semi...online_v_23195

    This is the site you should use for word history. This is a respected and well researched site that is what linguists use.

    I have no affiliation with this site. It is just the best site there is for word history.[COLOR="red"]
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    Default Re: Anti-Zionism is anti-Semitism? (Discuss - sensibly)

    In the same vein as post # 23:

    ...

    Quote Alt Skull‏ @_AltSkull


    “When certain obstructionists become too irritating, label them, after suitable buildup, as fascist, Nazi or anti-Semitic, & use the prestige of antifascist & tolerance organizations to discredit them."

    -Communist Party Directive 1943

    They've been doing this a LONG time, folks.

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    This is what this quote is all about.


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    Hitler didn't say it. Goebbels said it in a speech quoting from a Jewish paper where THEY were saying it. It's been attributed to the Germans for decades. THEY were only repeating it....

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    Of course, the same technique has been applied to the "Reds," "Commies," etc... so, yes, it's all Putin's fault, anyway!


    A little more about one of the first recent forced mass migration:
    ROTHSCHILDS FOLLOW BIBLICAL BLUEPRINT

    At the beginning of the 19th century, the Rothschilds started campaigning to return the Jews to Israel, purchasing land there and scheming to break up the Ottoman Empire. They later bought the Suez Canal to project their power into the Middle East. Bjerknes writes:
    "The ruin of the Turkish Empire and the mass murder of the Armenian Christians were one step on the long and tumultuous Jewish march toward the death of mankind. The ruin of the Russian empire was another, followed by the repeated destruction of Europe, particularly Germany in the World Wars this Jewish cult created in an attempt to artificially fulfill Messianic prophecy and force the Jews of Europe against their will to flee to Palestine." (66)
    According to Bjerknes, Jewish support was the only thing lacking in the Rothschilds' plan to establish a world government in Jerusalem, with them as king:
    "They could bankrupt Egypt and Turkey. They could bring Russia to ruins. They could buy Jewish ne'er-do-wells. They could even buy the Pope but the only way to force Jews in large numbers to Palestine was to put Hitler and Stalin in power and persecute Jews on a massive and unprecedented scale." (291)
    ... which brings us back to Albert Pike's WW III:
    "The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time."

    If I understood the whole bouillabaisse recipe correctly, the "plan" followed by the Zionists is taking its template from the prophecies of the Old Testament + Zohar + Talmud + kabbalah (the Ante/Anti-Christ) and force it into implementation... so that someone could be king of the world... sick! And, of course, the "New Testament" can't help but become one of those "irritating obstructionists"... because it bluntly states: "No chosen ones! You are all of the father!" If there ever was one, that's quite a cosmic slap that's still ringing across the planet.
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    When some truth comes out of the information war... shocking:

    Global persecution of Christians reaches "near-genocidal levels"

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    A new report on Christian persecution ordered by the UK's Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs, Jeremy Hunt, finds that Christians are the most persecuted religious group in the world.

    The review, led by the Bishop of Truro the Right Reverend Philip Mounstephen, found that one in three people suffer from religious persecution globally, with 80% of the persecuted being followers of Jesus Christ.

    Hunt felt that, given the research consistently showed that Christians are the most persecuted religious group, such a study was warranted to further investigate the nature and scope of the persecution. Hunt also added that "political correctness" played a role in not confronting the issue sooner.

    The report, which is not yet finalized, defines persecution as "discriminatory treatment where that treatment is accompanied by actual or perceived threats of violence or other forced coercion."

    In the Middle East and North Africa (MENA), the report found that severity of Christian persecution came close to meeting the UN definition of a genocide.

    The primary effect of this acute persecution has been a mass exodus of Christians from these countries. In Syria, the Christian population has gone from 1.7 million in 2011 to 450,000 in 2019. In Iraq, the number of Christians has declined dramatically from 1.5 million in 2003 to below 120,000 today.
    Given the scale of persecution of Christians today, indications that it is getting worse and that its impact involves the decimation of some of the faith group's oldest and most enduring communities, the need for governments to give increasing priority and specific targeted support to this faith community is not only necessary but increasingly urgent.

    -Bishop of Truro's Independent Review for the Foreign Secretary of FCO Support for Persecuted Christians - Interim Report
    Truro's review isn't the only group to reach these dire conclusions. In 2016, Pew Research found that Christians were targeted in 144 countries, up 19 from 125 in 2015.

    Christian persecution NGO Open Doors reported earlier this year that "approximately 245 million Christians living in the top 50 countries suffer high levels of persecution or worse," up 30 million from last year. The NGO stated that the number of countries classified as having "extreme" levels of persecution has risen from one (North Korea) to 11.

    In the MENA, the Christian population has substantially declined over the past century, from 20% to less than 4% today. The report cites political failures, an increase in religious conservatism (primarily Muslim), and a rise in radical Islamic militants.

    In South Asia, the report finds that persecution against Christians has grown in large part to the growth of militant nationalism in the region. Political parties in Pakistan, India, and Sri Lanka are embracing militant religious causes to increase their populist electoral base.

    In 2017, Sri Lanka (majority Buddhist) experienced a rise in attacks against Christians and Muslims, with 97 attack documented throughout the year. In India, persecution has risen sharply since the right wing Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) led by Prime Minister Narendra Modi came to power in 2014. Attacks more than doubled from 358 in 2016 to 736 in 2017.

    In Sub-Saharan Africa, despite the region being overwhelmingly Christian, persecution has increased in a number of countries on the southern edge of the Sahara desert which have formed a bit of a "fault line" where Christian and Muslim majority countries collide.

    The worst persecution in the region came from the radical Islamic militant group Boko Haram in Nigeria. The groups distinct aim is to "eliminate Christianity and pave the way for the total Islamisation of the country." In 2015, U.S. intelligence reports estimated that 200,000 Christians were at risk of being killed by Boko Haram.

    In Maiduguri, a city in north-east Nigeria, research from the Catholic Church reported that the massacres by the Islamists had "created 5,000 widows and 15,000 orphans and resulted in attacks on 200 churches and chapels, 35 presbyteries and parish centres."

    In communist China, the Christian church is also increasingly under attack.
    When it comes to China's own citizens, its communist ideology and nationalistic outlook leads it to suppress the Christian church in a number of ways. The Communist party in China has historically attempted to limit freedoms throughout Chinese society so as to maintain a strong grip on the country and to ensure it stays in power. In recent years President Xi has sought to control the church. As part of this, the Chinese state has provided 'active guidance' for Chinese churches to adapt to China's socialist society and legislation came into force in February 2018 which gave the state far-reaching powers to monitor and control religious organisations.

    -Bishop of Truro's Independent Review for the Foreign Secretary of FCO Support for Persecuted Christians - Interim Report
    Persecution in China against Christians often takes place in subtle ways, with church leaders beings arrested on trumped up charges of tax fraud or embezzlement as a way to shut down their ministry.

    The report's findings come after more than 250 people were killed and more than 500 wounded in attacks at hotels and churches in Sri Lanka on Easter Sunday.


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    Quote Posted by Hervé (here)
    Quote 𝔄𝔰𝔤𝔢𝔦𝔯𝔯 ℌ𝔞𝔫𝔰𝔰𝔬𝔫 🌲‏ @NotRealAsgeirr May 9

    This is what this quote is all about.


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    Hitler didn't say it. Goebbels said it in a speech quoting from a Jewish paper where THEY were saying it. It's been attributed to the Germans for decades. THEY were only repeating it....

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    There's a page on Wikipedia quoting the exact passage from "Mein Kampf" that the "big lie" quote is paraphrased from:

    Quote But it remained for the Jews, with their unqualified capacity for falsehood, and their fighting comrades, the Marxists, to impute responsibility for the downfall precisely to the man who alone had shown a superhuman will and energy in his effort to prevent the catastrophe which he had foreseen and to save the nation from that hour of complete overthrow and shame. By placing responsibility for the loss of the world war on the shoulders of Ludendorff they took away the weapon of moral right from the only adversary dangerous enough to be likely to succeed in bringing the betrayers of the Fatherland to Justice.

    All this was inspired by the principle—which is quite true within itself—that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods.

    It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_lie

    Hitler was talking about masses of people being fooled by Jewish media propaganda, not bragging about how big the lies he tells are, like most people seem to implicitly assume when posting these half-fake/paraphrased quote memes.

    The irony of people posting these quotes without context is just about as good as this:


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    Default Re: Anti-Zionism is anti-Semitism? (Discuss - sensibly)

    Who really wants a WWIII?

    Fundamentalist Christians, because they want Jesus to return, who supposedly will return after a total destruction of the world.
    Fundamentalist Judaics, because they want their messiah to come.

    The Illuminati know it and, taking advantage of these naive beliefs, will cause a nuclear hell on earth for their lord Lucifer to rule the entire world.

    It is easy to poo-poo and laugh at such beliefs, but belief system rules this world, whether you like it or not.
    (The Illuminati have no respect for humans, regardless of Christians, Jews, Muslims or atheist materialists. Religion is nothing but their tool.)

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    From what I understand zionism is not judaism. So it's not semitic. Therefore, not anti-semitic.
    Just more garbage to confused the ignorant....

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    Prophesy will be fulfilled. Even the Illuminati knows what's in store for the criminals and lawless....
    No one should get comfortable because it's about to get worse. As if it isn't already bad, right?
    We have CERN that wants to open a portal into and negative dimension and already has a pin hole open.
    We have the Chinese who are building a Sun device that will burn hotter than the actual Sun. Why do they need that anyway? It'll fry everyone that close to the planet.
    There are so many agendas to do away with humanity right now. Just from all that I've discovered, I'm overwhelmed....
    Get much worse that all this? Heaven help us all....
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    I was watching a documentary on the fate of the Uighurs (Uyghurs) in western China.
    China is an atheist country, created by mass-murderer Mao who was backed by the Rothschilds.
    Needless to say, China is the model country for the New World Order.
    (I have a theory that the Japanese invaded China in 1930s to permit the communist takeover of China. The same tactic where the US and Japan sent troops to Siberia after the Russian Revolution, so that the Russians will rally behind the Bolsheviks.)

    Who writes history? The winner, of course.
    Who is the winner? The Rothschilds --- so far.

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    [QUOTE=A Voice from the Mountains;1290911][QUOTE=Hervé;1290877] The Big Lie theory, also propounded by LBJ, is what's behind Russiagate.

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    Who really wants a WWIII?

    Fundamentalist Christians, because they want Jesus to return, who supposedly will return after a total destruction of the world.
    Fundamentalist Judaics, because they want their messiah to come.

    The Illuminati know it and, taking advantage of these naive beliefs, will cause a nuclear hell on earth for their lord Lucifer to rule the entire world.

    It is easy to poo-poo and laugh at such beliefs, but belief system rules this world, whether you like it or not.
    (The Illuminati have no respect for humans, regardless of Christians, Jews, Muslims or atheist materialists. Religion is nothing but their tool.)
    Christians and those that practice Judaic religion constitute under 34% of those who are practicing religion, according to information I found. I doubt very many of those are actually hoping to destroy the world so the messiah will return. I would think that you would have to be take the bible literally and be rather zealous to actually want to create WWIII for that purpose. At the end of the day, how many would really want to see their family members lives destroyed to expedite a prophecy?

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    ... At the end of the day, how many would really want to see their family members lives destroyed to expedite a prophecy?
    It only takes one psychopath, with the wealth of the world to spare and the firm belief that everyone else is barely worth of belonging to their chattel, to bring it to fruition. There have been families of those psychopaths fostered generations after generations... or, what about those parents and families so proud of their kids sacrificing themselves for their "cause" in suicide bombings? Yep, education and culture.
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    The Illuminati know it and, taking advantage of these naive beliefs, will cause a nuclear hell on earth for their lord Lucifer to rule the entire world.
    Interesting perspective, I've seen a number of movies with the theme bringing back the dark lord from the abyss. I'm sure not less than four movies and I am not a movie buff. so maybe you are into something. Will you tell us who do you think lucifer is in real life?

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