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    Not sure what episode 4 revealed. I did not hear anything remotely new except more frustration. Basically there are secret meetings or just evasiveness. Well, that has always been the case. At this rate, one could have several hundred episodes and still say nothing. The most meaningful bit that was revealed in episode 3 (not 4) was that there are two camps in the Pentagon, a group that wants this info out and a religious group that want nothing to do with it because these things are demons. Hopefully future episodes can shed more light on this issue.
    Ah, AFAIK, what this series actually seems to be about is making the woo-woo subject of "UFO"s more "Mainstream" (palatable) and by using respectable First Person POV's it hopes to give the subject matter a much better sense of Credibility in the General Public Consciousness ... but of course, as a TV Series, it's merely "scratching the surface" of a highly complex Phenomenon that no single person (or government) has ALL the answers to !!!

    On the other hand, I'd say that when combined with the recently leaked Wilson documents, surely there is now a case for some more mainstream Investigative Journalists to "get their teeth into it" eh ?


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    Not sure what episode 4 revealed. I did not hear anything remotely new except more frustration. Basically there are secret meetings or just evasiveness. Well, that has always been the case. At this rate, one could have several hundred episodes and still say nothing. The most meaningful bit that was revealed in episode 3 (not 4) was that there are two camps in the Pentagon, a group that wants this info out and a religious group that want nothing to do with it because these things are demons. Hopefully future episodes can shed more light on this issue.
    Ah, AFAIK, what this series actually seems to be about is making the woo-woo subject of "UFO"s more "Mainstream" (palatable) and by using respectable First Person POV's it hopes to give the subject matter a much better sense of Credibility in the General Public Consciousness ... but of course, as a TV Series, it's merely "scratching the surface" of a highly complex Phenomenon that no single person (or government) has ALL the answers to !!!

    On the other hand, I'd say that when combined with the recently leaked Wilson documents, surely there is now a case for some more mainstream Investigative Journalists to "get their teeth into it" eh ?

    Could not agree more.
    Hopefully the show matures quickly and takes into consideration the latest revelations else TTSA will lose even more credibility (not saying they have much now)

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    Hi,

    I wonder if the next episode is available in the Avalon library yet?

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    Oh, I've no doubt a link to the latest episode will appear later today on either of Vimeo or DailyMotion but until it does, and if you can't wait LOL, it can now be downloaded (570Mb) from this WeTransfer link :

    Unidentified Inside Americas UFO Investigation S01E05

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    Here's the Torrent Hash : B70F69A699C42E92CF86E9185A27A00AB5266DE7


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    Here’s a live tweet commentary on Episode 5

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...066044416.html

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    EP 5 is painful to watch. Exactly ZERO new material.

    Messages so far:
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    1. It's a threat and nobody is doing anything.
    2. There is a coverup.
    3. We used to lie, but now we are telling the truth and we don't know what this is.
    4. It's illegal to do covert ops on US citizens.
    5. The disinfo campaign was spreading 80% false info and 20% real info but the UFO community does not know which is which.

    Exactly where does disclosure fit here?

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    The government has known how to build and fly these craft since before the 1950's when they offered Mr. Brown one dollar. or less, for his reinvention of the propulsion system of the UFO.

    From what I have read here and there, there seems to be a training school for UFO pilots exiting under sea caves around Southern California and now we hear of the military "off limits" island off Mexico where I would say there is an undersea UFO base. These bases for UFO's may be operated by a collusion of governments of Earth as well as of those on the Moon, including the Nazi element. They would have to be linked to the Secret Space Program in whole or in part. There are also UFO's which they have not been able to open in their reverse engineering program, probably dug up from some archeological site. The UFO's are engineered to read the minds of their pilots and all other sentient life. According to reports I have read it seems clear the craft was reading the minds of those they intended to abduct as well as those merely observing them from the ground. The zig zag motion of the UFO, from the perspective of those on the ground, is only the relative motion of the craft in relation to the planet while executing angles of motion which enable them to escape Earth's gravity. There are Alien undersea bases everywhere but especially off Puerto Rico, Bermuda, throughout the Caribbean, etc. I have put together this information from the last ten years on the internet and related reading. It is CLEAR that the SECRET ARM OF SPACE RESEARCH, ETC., in the US Government has been deliberately keeping the rest of the government and military OUT OF KNOWLEDGE AND IT SEEMS LOGICAL TO ME THE USA AND RUSSIA ARE ONE! If it were not so, how could Rockefeller FIRE CRUSCHEV at the time of the Cuban Missile Crisis?

    In the video, a swarm of UFO's disappear into a hole in the sky. I would say this was an inter-dimentional exit consisting of a corkscrew shape, thus obstructing the straight line pathway of light. In other words, the crafts were making a JUMP.

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    Quote Posted by AutumnW (here)
    Hi,

    I wonder if the next episode is available in the Avalon library yet?
    Yes, episodes 4 and 5, here:

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    Hi,

    I wonder if the next episode is available in the Avalon library yet?
    Yes, episodes 4 and 5, here:
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    Has anybody got the final Episode yet ?

    That's supposedly the one in which we are told about the Italian helicopter being "shot down".

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    From the DailyMotion website : Unidentified - Inside Americas UFO Investigation S01E06 - The Revelation

    Quote The investigation uncovers shocking video evidence, patterns, secret coordinates and jarring eyewitness testimonies about UFOs. The team follows a lead to an allied European country to probe a case where a UFO allegedly shot down a helicopter, and more.

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    My thoughts so far after EP 6.
    So they went to Italy and got a thumb drive of 13,000 cases since 1901.
    The Italians said that they wanted something of equal value for that info, yet the video did not show what TTSA "paid".
    A naive assumption is that TTSA is "tasked" to go around the world and collect everything everyone else knows, kind of like open spying, before US "releases" what they know.
    But that does not make much sense.
    In fact, nothing makes sense as TTSA (Louis specifically) refuses to say anything of value.
    So, no disclosure, nothing, not even possible threat.

    At this point Unidentified is a miserable failure in every single way.

    1. They have not demonstrated threat, so they cannot possibly "mobilize" Congress "to do something about it".
    2. They have not shown other-worldliness, in fact their estimates of number of galaxies and and other numbers are from the 1950s (the latest numbers of observable galaxies is now 2 trillion and not 100 billion)
    3. They have not even attempted to uncover or even talk about dark projects, such as reverse engineering.
    4. They have not even talked about abduction, because that can easily be used to push the idiotic "threat" agenda.
    5. They say that they have eliminated the stigma of talking about UFOs, but clearly that is bull especially after Trump ridiculing the UFO belief (last night).

    They are I think succeeding in pushing this topic even more underground.

    BTW, saying something is a psyop is terribly unhelpful as that is a duh!!!
    Some questions are:
    1. What is their agenda?
    2. Why are they shooting themselves in the heart (not even foot)?
    3. Why are they turning the UFO community even more against them (TTSA)?
    4. Without showing any real footage of what must be countless verified videos, how could they even get the kids to get excited about the issue?

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    Quote Posted by Intranuclear (here)

    BTW, saying something is a psyop is terribly unhelpful as that is a duh!!!
    Some questions are:
    1. What is their agenda?
    2. Why are they shooting themselves in the heart (not even foot)?
    3. Why are they turning the UFO community even more against them (TTSA)?
    4. Without showing any real footage of what must be countless verified videos, how could they even get the kids to get excited about the issue?
    Good questions. My best guesses:

    1) To plant the meme that UFOs/ETs are a threat. If that's promoted and believed by the global public, then that justifies and strengthens the rationale for a one-world NWO government. (Just as Reagan said.)

    2 and 3) They may not be... their target isn't the UFO community. It's the uninformed public. Their strategic gamble is that the UFO community will continue to be ignored or sidelined by the mainstream.

    4) It's propaganda: they're sowing seeds (that UFOs may be hostile) that they simply hope will take root.

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    I think Bill’s point 2 and 3 are key to understanding this.

    Geopolitical and international business decisions aren’t made with the outliers in mind. Outliers, or the edges of the bell curve, are consistent and strong in their beliefs. They aren’t swayed easily, and take up relatively little space, like a couple old tree stumps the river sweeps past. They’re the doomsday crier with the same message on the corner of Fulton and Division that traffic passes by each day.

    The river can be directed and changed because it’s always in motion. Looking, searching, consuming, waiting for direction and the new en vogue.

    War is won typically by the group on the higher ground, and what ground could be higher than space? Once the technology is right, and the river high and ready, a couple small dams need breaking and the river will rush in the new direction, passing through the old stumps like nothing.

    It’s an appeal to ready the waters, build the tension, so that when the dams are set to be fractured, the water will fill and flood the correct fields.

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    The threat agenda is not really stretch, since one can easily argue that anything one does not know and understand is or can be a threat. That's easily demonstrated.
    Walking underneath a UFO with its engines operational, is most certainly dangerous as it is pushing light into the UV and higher spectrum so one can easily get radiation poisoning.
    I mean, walking under an operation rocket or behind a jet engine is certainly fatal.
    A plane too close to a UFO will get its electronics scrambled and that cannot possibly be good.
    I mean one can easily demonstrate threat for everything, guns, religions, kitchen knives, paper clips, sugar, etc... so well, everything can easily become a threat.
    Mobilizing people against super advanced entities (aliens or time travelers) cannot possibly be healthy as if they wanted us simply gone, they would not even need to use a single bullet, they can just direct one of the trillions of rocks or comets at the earth.

    I guess at this point I don't even know who their audience is.
    If you subtract the UFO community from their viewership, not sure what is left.

    UFOs have demonstrably been around since at least the dawn of recorded history so the argument of whether this is some other countries advanced tech is laughably stupid.
    If you throw in time travel devices, then clearly the threat is NOT UFOs but time machines, so what now? We declare war against time? Kill all scientists who talk about building time machines?

    How does it help them if everyone is threatened?
    Yes, people can be temporarily coerced into believing that another group is representing evil and we mobilize against them, but has that ever in recorded history resulted in anything but endless war?
    How does making enemies by killing people and making every survivor dedicate their lives on taking revenge help anyone?

    So assuming that TTSA is composed of people who have above single digit IQ, what is their ultimate goal of pushing the threat agenda?

    The uninformed people are still informed as there have been countless movies and TV shows and video games and millions of books discussing the topic of ETs (and everything else).

    I just don't quite see how the threat agenda is getting them anything useful except perhaps getting people to openly compete for these technologies in a collective sense.
    Maybe by showing that chemical rockets and missiles and satellite weapons and nuclear and biological weapons are no match for craft that can pop in and out of reality will allow the revelation of the black budgeted, reversed engineered craft.

    The rumor is that US is finally ready to put up a fight against these craft and so is this the agenda? To allow the revelation of reversed engineered tech without having to worry about disclosure?
    That makes some sense and will work for a time.

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    The Pentagon would have given Unidentified the go ahead behind the scenes. They want this information out there, obviously. It's such a no-brainer.

    TTSA members may be naive enough to think they are true whistle blowers, taking a chance by coming forward. Who knows? Seems a bit ludicrous, but they may feel that compartmentalization is so complete and such an impediment to free flow of information within the chain of command, that it was necessary.

    We can't know what members of TTSA think or how they think nor their intent. My personal bias is that some of the members are sincere in what they are saying.

    Btw, who owns the history channel? Fox channel?

    As far as globalization goes, I agree that this show represents a massive power grab, by the military and its contractors. Who really controls the world, is it the U.S, or Lockheed Martin, General Dynamics, etc..? Or..are they now one and the same? I feel we have had unilateral globalization under the U.S and the U.S is losing power to China right now. Disclosure is part of a vast movement to defeat the new 'enemy.'

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    Quote Posted by AutumnW (here)
    The Pentagon would have given Unidentified the go ahead behind the scenes. They want this information out there, obviously. It's such a no-brainer.

    TTSA members may be naive enough to think they are true whistle blowers, taking a chance by coming forward. Who knows? Seems a bit ludicrous, but they may feel that compartmentalization is so complete and such an impediment to free flow of information within the chain of command, that it was necessary.

    We can't know what members of TTSA think or how they think nor their intent. My personal bias is that some of the members are sincere in what they are saying.

    Btw, who owns the history channel? Fox channel?

    As far as globalization goes, I agree that this show represents a massive power grab, by the military and its contractors. Who really controls the world, is it the U.S, or Lockheed Martin, General Dynamics, etc..? Or..are they now one and the same? I feel we have had unilateral globalization under the U.S and the U.S is losing power to China right now. Disclosure is part of a vast movement to defeat the new 'enemy.'
    As far as the History channel (from Google search): History (originally The History Channel from 1995 to 2008) is a history-based pay television network that is owned by A&E Networks, a joint venture between Hearst Communications and the Disney Media Networks division of the Walt Disney Company.

    You are right, it is not easy to know the mind of so many with different agendas, with power plays within power plays, but it can be fun to speculate, to find something that makes sense but not foolish enough to believe in any conclusion.

    Some people say "time will tell", but I have never seen historical evidence of this cliche, as anything important is always forever speculated upon. It is clearly easier to mind one's own business and ignore it all, except that learning about the universe is fun and I hate it when it gets muddied by those who think that they are the only ones worthy of knowledge.

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    Professor Simon Holland is NOT a professor, it's just a nickname.

    Quote The story of how the US Navy have developed quantum vacuum propulsion. This film proves the link between the 'tictac' UFO, a Navy antigravity patent, re-opening military UFO logs and the briefing of US congressmen on 'the propulsion gap' .

    Prof Simon pulls it all together in this interesting short film.

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    Final in series

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    On this episode of the UFO podcast UNKNOWN, Jason McClellan, Maureen Elsberry, Ryan Sprague, and Shane Hurd recap the final two episode of Unidentified: Inside America's UFO Investigation. The team also discusses the series overall. Jason also talks about his experience at the Roswell UFO Festival.

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