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    Default Re: Termed "The UFO Leak Of The Century" by R. Dolan: The Notes between Dr. Eric Davis and Admiral Thomas Wilson

    Gathering as much information about this as I can at the moment, my current personal view is that this VERY interesting YouTube conversation (referred to above several times) is the most informative so far.

    It offers some extremely valuable factual insights. Based on these, my current leaning is that this document has
    1. at least been doctored for reasons unknown, and
    2. may be an elaborate intel-level hoax/disinfo ploy, though based on some real events and people.

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    Default Re: Termed "The UFO Leak Of The Century" by R. Dolan: The Notes between Dr. Eric Davis and Admiral Thomas Wilson

    It looks like there is another document coming on Monday from Grant Cameron. Hopefully, this will help make the picture a little more clear.

    From Facebook:

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    Default Re: Termed "The UFO Leak Of The Century" by R. Dolan: The Notes between Dr. Eric Davis and Admiral Thomas Wilson

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Based on these, my current leaning is that this document has
    1. at least been doctored for reasons unknown, and
    2. may be an elaborate intel-level hoax/disinfo ploy, though based on some real events and people.
    What seems hoaxed is the 2 page letter from Commander Willard Miller. Both Frank Stalter and Chant Hannah (two interviewers/researchers) called Miller separately, and he seemed to offer a fairly convincing argument that he did not write the letter. I am wondering if the letter was fabricated by Eric Davis, just so he could get Wilson's attention?

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    Default Re: Termed "The UFO Leak Of The Century" by R. Dolan: The Notes between Dr. Eric Davis and Admiral Thomas Wilson

    Quote Posted by Kryztian (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Based on these, my current leaning is that this document has
    1. at least been doctored for reasons unknown, and
    2. may be an elaborate intel-level hoax/disinfo ploy, though based on some real events and people.
    What seems hoaxed is the 2 page letter from Commander Willard Miller. Both Frank Stalter and Chant Hannah (two interviewers/researchers) called Miller separately, and he seemed to offer a fairly convincing argument that he did not write the letter.
    Yes, Miller co-operated fully with the investigators (see this video), drew attention to a number of anomalies and errors, and himself stated he doubted the veracity of the whole document. That all really does count for something.

    My own added reservations include the overdramatized screenplay-dialog style of the conversation summary, which if it was NOT taken from a dictaphone, was (at least) definitely embellished.

    No-one would EVER write notes like that just from memory. So whether or not a dictaphone was in play seems to me to be really quite important.

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    Default Re: Termed "The UFO Leak Of The Century" by R. Dolan: The Notes between Dr. Eric Davis and Admiral Thomas Wilson

    Ah, for anybody interested, Richard Dolan is "going live" on his YouTube channel sometime in the next few hours :

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    Default Re: Termed "The UFO Leak Of The Century" by R. Dolan: The Notes between Dr. Eric Davis and Admiral Thomas Wilson

    This is the transcript of the video: https://richarddolanmembers.com/arti...-developments/

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    Default Re: Termed "The UFO Leak Of The Century" by R. Dolan: The Notes between Dr. Eric Davis and Admiral Thomas Wilson

    Quote Posted by Intranuclear (here)
    This is the transcript of the video: https://richarddolanmembers.com/arti...-developments/
    From the above transcript :

    Quote One of the key statements Keith pulled out was one from Grant Cameron from an interview on the Black Vault radio with John Greenewald on December 28, 2018. Keith quotes Grant here:

    QuoteIt’s a transcript of an interview and the person who had it died, had the transcript, and it comes out of their files.”
    That’s a definite clue. The person who had this document died, and what we have now has come from the files of that person.
    Ah, so here's the link for the YouTube video of the Grant Cameron interview on Black Vault Radio : Ep-20 – Grant Cameron on UFO Secrecy | The Black Vault Radio w/ John Greenewald, Jr. (published on 28 Dec 2018) containing the above Quote at the 2:06:37 mark.

    But just a few minutes after Grant talks about the "Wilson interview" he goes on to talk about his theory for what seems to be happening generally with the UFO phenomenon (from 2:11:57) :

    Quote There is a "dark arm" of the government, a "dark agency" of the government, or whatever it is, who have unlimited money, and unlimited power and they control this story and there's nothing we can do about it.

    It's done according to constitution, I think it's done legally, I think if it wasn't being done legally someone would walk away, someone would defect and nobody has defected.

    There's been 13 or 14 presidents who have handled the ufo subject, they've all done the same thing whether they're republican or democrat, everybody has done the same thing which indicates that there is a plan, there is something in there, it's just very highly compartmentalised and I can't see anything other than the fact that what's happening now is intentional.

    That they need the story, almost like when they let the road runners tell the story of Area 51, so eventually they tell every story and they will declassify all the documents, but it's on whatever time, cos you're not going to declassify anything until it's no longer a threat to national security, as long as it's a threat to national security you're not going to release it, so the classified parts you want to keep, but like the road runners they're going to allow people to tell the story and that's what I believe they're doing.

    They're sort of gradually doing the story, almost like Chase Brandon said : If you want a good read, read the AATIP story, if you want to know what's going on read between the lines !
    I wonder if perhaps Grant will address this issue of "Disclosure" further in his next Public Post tomorrow given the recent Wilson Leak eh ?

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    Default Re: Termed "The UFO Leak Of The Century" by R. Dolan: The Notes between Dr. Eric Davis and Admiral Thomas Wilson

    Ah, I've copied the following screenshot from Grant Cameron's FB page (here) :

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    Now in case it's not clear :

    1. I have two more documents. One will be posted Monday. One is not a UFO document that can wait. The source has more documents I have not seen nor do i wish to see.

    2. Greer on Church Monday. I will be on in near future. Dolan will keep up his efforts and after a long conversation with me he knows more about what happened.


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    Default Re: Termed "The UFO Leak Of The Century" by R. Dolan: The Notes between Dr. Eric Davis and Admiral Thomas Wilson

    Oh, so here is the latest three page document from Grant Cameron as posted to his FB page (June 17, 2019) :

    Quote I have tried to stay out of this latest document controversy since about March. However, recently is appeared that the crazies were trying to push my friend Richard Dolan off a cliff, so I have come to support him.

    In 2008 Apollo astronaut Dr. Edgar Mitchell made some dramatic claims about the reality of UFOs.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhNdxdveK7cI

    We know that Mitchell talked to a lot of powerful people about UFOs and was connected to NIDS and the discoveries and reports that were produced. In 2008 he stated, "I have been people involved in certain committees and certain research programs with very credible scientists in various intelligence people that do know the real inside story and I I am not hesitant to talk about it."

    Did you ever wonder where his files went after he passed on?
    It presents as a "National Institute for Discovery Science" (NIDS) letter addressed to Edgar Mitchell signed by Robert Bigelow.

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    And Keith Basterfield has posted some comparative analysis in support of the Provenance of the document to his website :

    Revelations of the third kind - The Bigelow/Mitchell 1996 letter emerges (June 17, 2019)

    It will be interesting, I'd say, in the next couple of days to hear further about this whole affair from Steven Greer and Keith who are both now confirmed to appear with Jimmy Church (Monday and Wednesday evenings respectively) [1] :

    https://twitter.com/JChurchRadio/sta...70194805583872

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    [1] It'll be in the middle of the night for any of us Europe-based-Earthlings who manage to stay awake !!!
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    Default Re: Termed "The UFO Leak Of The Century" by R. Dolan: The Notes between Dr. Eric Davis and Admiral Thomas Wilson

    Cant get to "revelations" link above !

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    Quote Posted by Did You See Them (here)
    Cant get to "revelations" link above !
    Ah, sorry about that, I've just corrected it !

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    Mr Cameron on the subject @ hand...

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    Grant Cameron - Admiral Wilson UFO Document Leak & Ryan Stacey - TESA

    Published 17th June 2019

    In the first portion of the show, Grant Cameron to discuss the Admiral Wilson UFO document leak.

    Then Ryan Stacey from TESA (The Experiencers Support Association) joins us to talk about his experiencer's project.

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    Default Re: Termed "The UFO Leak Of The Century" by R. Dolan: The Notes between Dr. Eric Davis and Admiral Thomas Wilson

    Dr Greer shares his thoughts...

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    Fade To Black



    Dr. Steven Greer | The Wilson UFO Leaked Documents

    Published 17th June 2019

    Last week a major document leak was exposed to the UFO community… the documents contained a transcript of a conversation between Eric Davis and Rear Admiral Thomas Wilson that took place in a car behind the EG&G building in Las Vegas.
    Dr. Steven Greer is featured a couple of times in the document, having attended a meeting at the Pentagon in April, 1997 and the subject at that meeting was UFOs.
    Tonight, our guest is Dr. Greer and we are going to discuss the document, the Pentagon meeting and how the government and it’s agencies present the UFO question to the public.

    One can listen by clicking here
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    Quote Posted by Star Tsar (here)
    Mr Cameron on the subject @ hand...

    Quote Posted by Star Tsar (here)
    Spaced Out Radio

    Grant Cameron - Admiral Wilson UFO Document Leak & Ryan Stacey - TESA

    Published 17th June 2019

    In the first portion of the show, Grant Cameron to discuss the Admiral Wilson UFO document leak.

    Then Ryan Stacey from TESA (The Experiencers Support Association) joins us to talk about his experiencer's project.

    video
    Oh, now due to some time constraints (such as sleeping and working), lol, I have only so far listened to the first 40 minutes (or so) of Grant's interview (under protest he says) on "Spaced Out Radio" with Dave Scott ... but I want to draw "your" attention to these salient points :

    1. It seems that at first Grant was "all for" getting the Wilson document "out into the open" but then due to a series of "unfortunate events" he changed his mind and wanted nothing more to do with it.

    2. Nevertheless, what he is sure of is that the document has come from the files of Edgar Mitchell and how he can be so certain is because the people who now are in possession of the files have also shared with him other files such as a letter from Edgar to the widow of Charles Lindbergh. To his mind the "provenance" of the recent leaked documents is "beyond doubt" !

    3. Then the documents "dropped onto the Internet" at Reddit but nothing seemed to happen until Richard Dolan "got hold of them". Grant says that even when Richard contacted him, he still maintained he wanted to stay "out of it", however once he heard Richard had got a "no comment" from Hal Puthoff, that reassured him Richard was doing the proper "leg work" confronting the relevant parties and so he felt he could once again "get involved".

    Thus in the eyes of both Richard and Grant, the "no comment" from Hal Puthoff is of major significance eh ?

    Here is what Richard said in his presentation The Wilson Leak: Latest Developments. Richard Dolan The Big Picture (15 Jun 2019) from the 39:15 mark :

    Quote ... this is a "no comment" that I received three days ago on June 12 from Dr Hal Puthoff, and I'm gonna show this to you, this is directly out of my email, I have permission to show this, I asked explicitly, and he said sure and I am showing this here :

    It reads : "Rich, With regards to authenticity, we have no comment on the documents recently being circulated. As some of us still retain USG security clearances and remain bound by the secrecy oaths we have taken, we believe it is in the best interest of the USG and ourselves not to comment on any documents that purport to describe classified USG programs or information. Best regards, Hal"

    I would ask you to read that statement very carefully, rather than a simple denial, Dr Puthoff offers a very carefully worded non-denial. <deep breath> This is practically offering an explanation for his "no comment", it's as confirming as a "no comment" can ever be, it's also noteworthy I think that he states "WE have no comment", clearly speaking for all parties concerned ..."
    As ever, for "your" Consideration

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    Quote Posted by Star Tsar (here)
    Dr Greer shares his thoughts...

    Quote Posted by Star Tsar (here)
    Fade To Black

    Dr. Steven Greer | The Wilson UFO Leaked Documents

    Published 17th June 2019

    Last week a major document leak was exposed to the UFO community… the documents contained a transcript of a conversation between Eric Davis and Rear Admiral Thomas Wilson that took place in a car behind the EG&G building in Las Vegas.
    Dr. Steven Greer is featured a couple of times in the document, having attended a meeting at the Pentagon in April, 1997 and the subject at that meeting was UFOs.
    Tonight, our guest is Dr. Greer and we are going to discuss the document, the Pentagon meeting and how the government and it’s agencies present the UFO question to the public.

    One can listen by clicking here
    Oh, for anybody interested : The spreaker link above no longer works however it's up on the FADE TO BLACK Radio YouTube channel :


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    Default Re: Termed "The UFO Leak Of The Century" by R. Dolan: The Notes between Dr. Eric Davis and Admiral Thomas Wilson

    Ah, and it seems that Richard Dolan has some new information ...

    https://twitter.com/RichDolan/status...11669336289280

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    Default Re: Termed "The UFO Leak Of The Century" by R. Dolan: The Notes between Dr. Eric Davis and Admiral Thomas Wilson

    Oh, for any interested parties who don't necessarily have the time to listen to some of the recent interviews listed on this thread, may I suggest visiting this Twitter account UFOR&DBoard that provides a Summary in series of Tweets ... included is the Steven Green interview with Jimmy Church (73 Tweets starting here) as well as tonight's Richard Dolan presentation (starting here) ...
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    Default Re: Termed "The UFO Leak Of The Century" by R. Dolan: The Notes between Dr. Eric Davis and Admiral Thomas Wilson

    Quote Posted by Clear Light (here)
    Ah, and it seems that Richard Dolan has some new information ...

    https://twitter.com/RichDolan/status...11669336289280

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    As mentioned above by Mr Transparent Photon!

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    The Richard Dolan Show

    Intelligent Disclosure | The Leak: New Revelations

    Streamed & Published 18th June 2019

    The Davis-Wilson leak continues to work its way through the UFO community. A consensus has formed that these notes came from the files of the late Apollo astronaut, Dr. Edgar Mitchell. Richard and Tracey discuss this, plus a fascinating recent quote from Dr. Eric Davis, provided as recently as June 1, 2019, giving strong corroboration to the notes. Responding to researcher James Iandoli immediately following an appearance of Luis Elizondo on Tucker Carlson, Davis said, "Luis Elizondo's very brief answer to Tucker Carlson's question about whether the U.S. government is in possession of recovered crashed and landed UFO technology hardware is 1000% accurate. My national security NDAs prevent me from adding any further comment on this."

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    Default Re: Termed "The UFO Leak Of The Century" by R. Dolan: The Notes between Dr. Eric Davis and Admiral Thomas Wilson

    More "breadcrumbs" !
    We've had lots of breadcrumbs !!

    I think we need "them" to drop a real piece of the crust - even if it curls the hairs on the back of our necks !

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