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    Default Re: 33 Gematria

    Hey blackdog, let me offer some clues I learned about this work you are doing here. I don't mean to be right, but just to comment the little I've learned about it.

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    Masonic cults and rituals are based on ancient Egypt, so the Emerald Tablets is one of their Bibles, as to say. The origin of gematria and numerology lies in the Kabbalah and the Tarot Cards. Firstly based on the hebrew alfabet, might have been adapted to the English language by Scottish Masons (1st Lodge?).

    So, the numbers (probably) was (also) given by the Emerald Tablets (32 sons + 1 father = 33), where each son (of father) occupy one of the Halls of Amenti, as described on tablet II, such as an hierarchical system (of power?)

    Quote exerpt from tablet II - the Halls of Amenti
    ..
    Side by side then, placed they other spaces,
    filled them with Life and with Light from above.
    Builded they then the Halls of Amenti,
    that they might dwell eternally there,
    living with life to eternity's end.

    Thirty and two were there of the children,
    sons of Lights who had come among men,
    seeking to free from the bondage of darkness
    those who were bound by the force from beyond.

    Deep in the Halls of Life grew a flower, flaming,
    expanding, driving backward the night.

    Placed in the centre, a ray of great potence, Life
    giving, Light giving, filling with power all who came near it.
    Placed they around it thrones, two and thirty,
    places for each of the Children of Light,
    placed so that they were bathed in the radiance,
    filled with the Life from the eternal Light.
    ...
    ...
    Custodians and watchers of the force of man's bondage,
    ready to loose when the light has been reached.
    First and most mighty,
    sits the Veiled Presence, Lord of Lords,
    the infinite Nine,
    over the other from each
    the Lords of the Cycles;

    Three, Four, Five, and Six, Seven, Eight,
    each with his mission, each with his powers,
    guiding, directing the destiny of man.
    There sit they, mighty and potent,
    free of all time and space.
    ..
    these Halls of Amenti certainly may be related to the 33 vertebra in the spine, the pathway of kundalini (as bellow), but about Jesus, which was adopted as Solar Logos by Church, this numbers should mean more a matter of liturgical hierarchy than a fact. Among others, the persa myth of Mithra (Indo-Iranian) have similar characteristics of Jesus (click this link to see more mystical similar representatives, where chronologically, the first one Solar Logos that appeared was Horus, from Egypt)

    Quote 33 is the number of vertebra in the spine, the pathway of the kundalini. There are 33 degrees in Scottish Rite Freemasonry. The Christ is the figure man becomes upon enlightenment, which is why Jesus was resurrected at the age of 33.
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    I would like to discuss this (controverse) data bellow, because not seems me accurated

    Quote The Age of Aquarius started on 9/11/2001.
    The Eras are about 2150 years long (and not 2000), so if the Pisces Era started at Zero Year, the Age of Aquarius will start at the middle of next century (XXII).

    I had notice that will be at 2138~2142, a transition period, and if So, the Pisces Era started about year 10 BC (that makes more sense)

    The claim of 2000 years long Eras, that leads people to say Aquarius Era started at year 2001, don't seems me accurated, but it has been used as massive propaganda by esoteric and mythical people, to support New Age cults.

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    These three images bellow means the origins of gematria used by kabalah and tarot (22 cards - major arcanes), and each one have astrological meaning too, as planets and signs related. The cults are complex, old and well structured. The modern cosmology also involve 22 items -- the 12 signs of zodiac and 10 external (Earth) elements -- Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto.





    Numbers --- Letters --- Symbols ---22 Tarot Cards (with Roman numbers),
    Astrological correspondences to the Tree of Life (the forbidden fruit tree ?)




    note -- the occultist Aleister Crowley made a change in The Arcane VIII (justice) and the Arcane XI (strenght), so the Justice and the Strenght changed position in the (other) conventional order. It's a very subtil and intriguing change, indeed, because Crowley claiming that the conventional mode is distorted to disguise hidden secrets.

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    BTW, the idea of gematria its The Thoughts (words) creates Substances (numbers), and inversely, the Matters Substances(numbers) represent Thoughts(words).

    examples:

    "Let there be Light"
    Full Reduction - 75 (3), Reverse Full Reduction - 78 (6)
    English Ordinal - 156 (3), Reverse Ordinal - 249 (6)

    tarot cards for 6 is the Lovers and 3 is the Empress (sexually receptive)

    for 33 number, the Arcane card is 6, the Lovers, so, an interpretation,
    the words expressed by this number, may be more lovely than others.
    Worshipers of the cult, can use this names to be better accepted,
    or for to seduce & persuade (others) ..

    secondary interpretations of 33 (plausible)
    the element 11 on 33, improves The Strenght to The Lovers (domination by force)
    other element 3, The Empress, reinforces sex appeal (the woman sitting with legs opened)

    If use the Crowley model, instead Strenght, improves by Justice, very interesting way (of cult)



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    Default Dark Waters (2019)

    Mark Ruffalo as Robert(33) Bilott

    Anne Hathaway(33) as Sarah Bilott
    Sarah Bilott = 3+1+2+1+5 + 2+1+3+7+4+4 = 33 (Chaldean)
    Tim Robbins as Tom(33R) Terp
    Robbin = 9+6+2+2+9+5 = 33 (Full Reduction)
    Bill Camp(33) as Wilbur Tennant

    Victor(33) Garber as Phil Donnelly
    Garber = 7+1+9+2+5+9 = 33 (Full Reduction)
    Garber = 120+156+54+150+132+54 = 666 (x6)
    Donnelly = 4+7+5+5+5+3+3+1 = 33 (Chaldean)
    Mare Winningham as Darlene Kiger - Mare Winningham was in Turner and Hooch, an important symbolic movie. Not sure if/why she is significant.

    Bill Pullman as Harry Deitzler
    Bill Pull = 2+9+3+3 + 7+3+3+3 = 33 (Full Reduction) - Maybe.
    William Jackson Harper(33R) as James(33R) Ross

    Louisa Krause as Karla - Nothing?

    Spencer Lieberman as Extra
    Lieber = 3+9+5+2+5+9 = 33 (Full Reduction)

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    Default Hanoi Hilton (1987)

    Hilton = 8+9+3+2+6+5 = 33 (Full Reduction)
    Michael(33) Moriarty as LCDR Williamson

    John Edwin Shaw as Mason

    Ken(33RE) Wright as Kennedy (33/666)
    Ken Wright = 2+5+5 + 6+2+1+3+5+4 = 33 (Chaldean)
    Paul Le Mat as Earl Hubman - Nothing?

    David Soul as Maj. Oldham - Nothing? Major=33R.

    Stephen(33) Davies as Capt. Robert(33) Miles
    Davies = 4+1+4+9+5+10 = 33 (Single Reduction)
    Lawrence Pressman as Col. Cathcart - Colonel=33C
    Pressman = 7+9+5+1+1+4+1+5 = 33 (Full Reduction)
    Pressman = 66+54+132+48+48+84+156+78 = 666 (Reverse Sumerian)
    Doug Savant as Ashby - Nothing?

    David Anthony Smith(33R) as Gregory

    Jeffrey(33R) Jones as Maj. Fischer

    John Vargas as Oliviera - Nothing.

    Rick Fitts as Capt. Turner(33)

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    Default The Ladykillers (2004)

    Tom(33R) Hanks as Goldthwaite Higginson Dorr, PhD
    Higginson = 5+1+3+3+1+5+3+7+5 = 33 (Chaldean)
    Irma P. Hall(33) as Marva Munson(33)
    Irma P = 9+9+5+8 + 2 = 33 (Reverse Full Reduction)
    Marlon Wayans as Gawain MacSam - Sam=33
    Gawain MacSam = 3+1+6+1+1+5 + 4+1+3+3+1+4 = 33 (Chaldean)
    J. K. Simmons as Garth Pancake
    JK Simmons = 1+2 + 1+9+4+4+6+5+1 = 33 (Full Reduction)
    JK = 17+16 = 33 (Reverse Ordinal)
    Pancake = 7+1+5+3+1+11+5 = 33 (Full Reduction KV)
    Tzi Ma as "The General"
    TM = 20+13 = 33 (English Ordinal)
    Ryan Hurst as Lump Hudson - Hud=33

    Diane(33) Delano as Mountain Girl
    Delano = 138+132+90+156+78+72 = 666 (x6)
    Mountain = 4+7+6+5+4+1+1+5 = 33 (Chaldean)

    Segundo = 3+5+3+6+5+4+7 = 33 (Chaldean)
    Feline = 6+5+3+9+5+5 = 33 (Full Reduction)
    Teacup = 7+4+8+6+6+2 = 33 (Reverse Full Reduction)
    Feline = 126+132+90+108+78+132 = 666 (x6)
    Brothers = 150+54+72+42+114+132+54+48 = 666 (x6) - Coen
    Barge = 2+1+18+7+5 = 33 (English Ordinal)
    Skippy = 1+2+9+7+7+7 = 33 (Full Reduction)
    Cellar = 144+132+90+90+156+54 = 666 (x6)
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    Default Re: 33 Gematria

    Golden Arches = 42+90+72+24+30+84 + 6+108+18+48+30+114 = 666 (x6)

    Donald's = 4+6+5+1+3+4 + 10 = 33 (Single Reduction)

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    Default LA Confidential (1997)

    Kevin Spacey as Det. Sgt. Jack Vincennes
    Spacey = 10+7+1+3+5+7 = 33 (Single Reduction)
    Russell Crowe as Officer Wendell "Bud" White
    RC = 9+24 = 33 (Reverse Ordinal) - Initials
    Wendell = 4+4+4+5+4+6+6 = 33 (Reverse Full Reduction)
    Bud White = 2+6+4 + 6+5+1+4+5 = 33 (Chaldean)
    Guy Pearce as Det. Lt. Edmund "Ed" Exley
    Pearce = 2+4+8+9+6+4 = 33 (Reverse Full Reduction)
    Kim(33) Basinger as Lynn Bracken

    James(33R) Cromwell as Capt. Dudley Smith(33S)
    Cromwell = 3+2+7+4+6+5+3+3 = 33 (Chaldean)
    Danny DeVito(33R) as Sid Hudgens
    Hudgens = 8+3+4+7+5+5+1 = 33 (Full Reduction)
    Hudgens = 114+36+138+120+132+78+48 = 666 (Reverse x6)
    David Strathairn as Pierce Morehouse Patchett - Nothing?

    Ron Rifkin as District Attorney Ellis Loew
    Ron Rifkin = 2+7+5 + 2+1+8+2+1+5 = 33 (Chaldean)
    Ellis = 4+6+6+9+8 = 33 (Reverse Full Reduction)
    Graham(33R) Beckel as Det. Richard "Dick" Stensland
    Stensland = 3+4+5+5+3+3+1+5+4 = 33 (Chaldean)
    Amber(33R) Smith(33S) as Susan Lefferts

    John Mahon as Police(33) Chief

    Paul Guilfoyle as Meyer "Mickey"(33R) Cohen

    Matt McCoy as Brett Chase - Nothing?

    Paolo Seganti as Johnny Stompanato

    Simon Baker as Matt Reynolds
    Reynold = 9+4+2+4+3+6+5 = 33 (Reverse Full Reduction)
    SB = 8+25 = 33 (Reverse Ordinal) - Initials
    Tomas Arana as Michael(33) Breuning
    TA = 7+26 = 33 (Reverse Ordinal)
    Michael33 McCleery as William Carlisle

    Shawnee Free Jones as Tammy Jordan
    Shawnee = 8+1+8+4+4+4+4 = 33 (Reverse Full Reduction)
    Darrell Sandeen as Leland(33R) "Buzz"(33R) Meeks

    Marisol Padilla Sánchez as Inez Soto
    Marisol = 4+1+9+9+1+6+3 = 33 (Full Reduction)
    MPS = 14+11+8 = 33 (Reverse Ordinal) - Initials
    Gwenda Deacon as Mrs. Lefferts - Nothing?

    Jim Metzler as Councilman - Nothing?

    Brenda Bakke as Lana Turner(33R)
    Bakke = 7+8+7+7+4 = 33 (Reverse Full Reduction)

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    Default Re: 33 Gematria

    I'm sorry if this info not fit good on this thread, but I think yes ...

    Israel's attorney general, Avichai Mandelblit, has handed Congress a list of 333 people to testify in 3 cases against Prime Minister Netanyahu.

    Netanyahu countered on twitter

    Quote “When an accusation is true, you don’t need 333 witnesses,” he wrote on Twitter. “When the accusation is untrue, not even 333 witnesses will help.”
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    Quote Posted by rogparan (here)
    I would like to discuss this (controverse) data bellow, because not seems me accurated

    Quote The Age of Aquarius started on 9/11/2001.
    The Eras are about 2150 years long (and not 2000), so if the Pisces Era started at Zero Year, the Age of Aquarius will start at the middle of next century (XXII).

    I had notice that will be at 2138~2142, a transition period, and if So, the Pisces Era started about year 10 BC (that makes more sense)

    The claim of 2000 years long Eras, that leads people to say Aquarius Era started at year 2001, don't seems me accurated, but it has been used as massive propaganda by esoteric and mythical people, to support New Age cults.
    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...wn-of-Aquarius

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    Quote Posted by rogparan (here)
    I'm sorry if this info not fit good on this thread, but I think yes ...

    Israel's attorney general, Avichai Mandelblit, has handed Congress a list of 333 people to testify in 3 cases against Prime Minister Netanyahu.
    Netanyahu = 5+5+4+1+5+1+1+5+6 = 33 (Chaldean)

    Israel is an important symbolic concept. The goddess Isis looms on its borders in the form of a fictional terrorist group.

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    Default Pulp Fiction (worksheet)

    Hamburgers = 5+1+4+2+6+2+3+5+2+3 = 33 (Chaldean)
    Sideburns = 114+54+24+30+12+126+108+84+114 = 666 (x6)
    Ability = 1+2+9+3+9+2+7 = 33 (Full Reduction)
    Ability = 156+150+108+90+108+42+12 = 666 (Reverse x6)
    Adhesives = 1+4+5+5+3+1+6+5+3 = 33 (Chaldean)
    Matches = 4+1+2+3+8+5+10 = 33 (Single Reduction)
    Shoes = 8+10+3+4+8 = 33 (Reverse Single Reduction)
    Ponytails = 8+7+5+1+4+1+1+3+3 = 33 (Chaldean)
    Shootup = 1+8+6+6+2+3+7 = 33 (Full Reduction)
    Statues = 10+2+1+2+3+5+10 = 33 (Single Reduction)
    Jack Rabbit Slims = 1+1+3+2 + 2+1+2+2+1+4 + 3+3+1+4+3 = 33 (Chaldean)
    Three Years = 4+5+2+5+5 + 1+5+1+2+3 = 33 (Chaldean)
    Jokes = 1+6+11+5+10 = 33 (Single Reduction KV)
    Contest = 3+6+5+2+5+10+2 = 33 (Single Reduction)
    Contestants = 3+6+5+2+5+1+2+1+5+2+1 = 33 (Full Reduction)
    Teenage = 7+4+4+4+8+2+4 = 33 (Reverse Full Reduction)
    Wedding = 4+4+5+5+9+4+2 = 33 (Reverse Full Reduction)
    Phones = 8+5+7+5+5+3 = 33 (Chaldean)
    Bubble Gum = 2+6+2+2+3+5 + 3+6+4 = 33 (Chaldean)
    The Shot = 4+5+5 + 3+5+7+4 = 33 (Chaldean)
    Red Dot = 9+4+5 + 5+3+7 = 33 (Reverse Full Reduction)
    Plunger = 2+6+6+4+2+4+9 = 33 (Reverse Full Reduction)
    Bong Hit = 7+3+4+2 + 1+9+7 = 33 (Reverse Full Reduction)
    Not Funny = 4+3+7 + 3+6+4+4+2 = 33 (Reverse Full Reduction)
    POW Camp = 7+6+5 + 3+1+4+7 = 33 (Full Reduction)
    Coolidge = 3+7+7+3+1+4+3+5 = 33 (Chaldean)
    The Watch = 4+5+5 + 6+1+4+3+5 = 33 (Chaldean)
    Illusion = 54+72+72+126+114+54+90+84 = 666 (x6)
    Alleyways = 1+3+3+5+7+5+1+7+1 = 33 (Full Reduction)
    Cabby = 3+1+2+2+25 = 33 (English Ordinal)
    Big Jerry Cab Co = 2+1+3 + 1+5+2+2+1 + 3+1+2 + 3+7 = 33 (Chaldean)
    Nipples = 5+1+8+8+3+5+3 = 33 (Chaldean)
    Smothers = 3+4+7+4+5+5+2+3 = 33 (Chaldean)
    Kiss It = 11+9+1+1 + 9+2 = 33 (Full Reduction KV)
    Pleasure = 8+3+5+1+3+6+2+5 = 33 (Chaldean)
    Zapaterias = 7+1+8+1+4+5+2+1+1+3 = 33 (Chaldean)
    Mind Reader = 4+1+5+4 + 2+5+1+4+5+2 = 33 (Chaldean)
    Zed's Dead = 7+5+4 + 3 + 4+5+1+4 = 33 (Chaldean)
    The Gimp = 42+114+132 + 120+108+84+66 = 666 (Reverse x6)
    Butt Sex = 12+126+120+120 + 114+30+144 = 666 (x6)
    Ass Rapists = 1+1+1 + 9+1+7+9+1+2+1 = 33 (Full Reduction)
    Mr Wolf = 4+9 + 5+6+3+6 = 33 (Full Reduction)
    Best Linen = 2+5+3+4 + 3+1+5+5+5 = 33 (Chaldean)
    Pork = 7+6+9+11 = 33 (Full Reduction KV)
    Muffin = 4+3+6+6+9+5 = 33 (Full Reduction)
    The Face = 7+1+4 + 3+8+6+4 = 33 (Reverse Full Reduction)
    Fonzie = 8+7+5+7+1+5 = 33 (Chaldean)
    Fried = 6+9+9+5+4 = 33 (Full Reduction)
    Shutup = 10+8+3+2+3+7 = 33 (Single Reduction)
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    Default Re: 33 Gematria

    I translate some info from an Astronomer (I knowed him personaly). R.R.de Freitas Mourão
    He writed books, articles, commanded the planetariums and national observatory of Rio.
    He worked on this subjects all his life, and was a very smart man, scientifically recognized.

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    It is understood to be a series of calendar years that have elapsed since an important event that is taken as a point of reference. Examples include the Christian Age, Cenozoic Age, Byzantine Age, Age of the Greeks, and many others.

    In case of astronomy, the equinoctial or zodiacal age mean the period in which the Vernal Point passes through a constellation or a zodiac sign. At the moment, the Vernal Point is situated in both the sign and the constellation Pisces, so is why is said we are in the Age of Pisces.

    But there is some doubt about the beginning of the next Age, that of Aquarius, as some mystics say it will start at the beginning of the new millennium, that is, in 2001. This has its reasons, but like others different from what is listed bellow, has no reasonable (international) support.

    For Astronomy an Age is determined by the passage of the Vernal Point along the region occupied by a zodiacal sign or constellation, by reason of a displacement of the earth's axis that is made by about one degree every 70 years, in the retrograde (east to west) direction.

    If we consider the constellations are of different sizes and therefore occupy varying spaces in the celestial sphere, and the signs of zodiac occupy regular spaces of 30 degrees, we can deduce that the time taken by the Vernal Point in the signs is always the same in all of them, which is not the case with constellations, especially now that the International Astronomical Union has precisely defined the boundaries of constellations.

    So, the Age of Aquarius (table below) will only begin in the year 2150 (if we consider the passage from the Vernal Point to the sign of Aquarius) or in 2620 (if we consider the passage of the Vernal Point through the constellation of Aquarius).

    Sign ------- Zodiac ------- Constelation
    Aries -------- 2150 BC ----- 1820 BC
    Pisces ---------- 0 ---------- 55 BC
    Aquarius ---- 2150 ------- 2620
    Capricorn ---- 4300 ------- 4330
    Sagitarius ---- 6450 ------- 6320


    wikipedia image, portuguese page about the Astronomer
    funny, because he was simple, disheveled, kinda crazy (lol)
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    Default Re: 33 Gematria

    Quote Posted by Keyholder (here)
    But there is some doubt about the beginning of the next Age, that of Aquarius, as some mystics say it will start at the beginning of the new millennium, that is, in 2001. This has its reasons, but like others different from what is listed bellow, has no reasonable (international) support.
    This is your answer. "Some mystics say..." I am not making claims about the scientific start of the Age of Aquarius or about the science behind the precession of the equinoxes. I am arguing that the powers that be are working with a Masonic calendar which uses 2000 years as the length of a zodiac age. Precession allegedly speeds up as we get closer to the next Golden Age, making the length of the Great Year equal to 24,000 years.

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    Default Re: 33 Gematria

    Pregnant = 8+2+5+3+5+1+5+4 = 33 (Chaldean)
    Pregnancy = 8+2+5+3+5+1+5+3+1 = 33 (Chaldean)

    Police = 7+6+3+9+3+5 = 33 (Full Reduction)
    Police Car = 8+7+3+1+3+5 + 3+1+2 = 33 (Chaldean)

    Copper = 3+7+8+8+5+2 = 33 (Chaldean)

    Boats = 7+3+8+7+8 = 33 (Reverse Full Reduction)

    Dead Cop = 5+4+8+5 + 6+3+2 = 33 (Reverse Full Reduction)
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