Don't be a Rabbit in the Headlights: Reincarnation discussions

[Sunny-side-up]

Hi all this is a re visiting a what I feel/ as an important subject.
So for those who have see the discussions in the past to those new members here are some links:

"Don't go into the light" - Discussion thread
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ite+light+trap

How to get out of the endless Reincarnation cycle?
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...10#post1300010

The reported 'Light at the end of the tunnel' is taken for granted as the way it has to be, with no choices.
many here in Avalon and around the world have queries about that.

So it has been suggested we should try to be awake when our time comes, and take time to look around as it where.

Much info in the linked posts

[Ron Mauer Sr]

I do not know which is the better choice but I do know my choice is to turn my back on the light tunnel, maintain the strong intention, today and tomorrow, "I go home to Source". Maintaining that intention every day must be a good choice. When croaking time gets here I will avoid the light tunnel, a potential trap, look up and find a hole in what may appear to be an electric fence. In that thought responsive environment I will go through that hole and return home.

[Ron Mauer Sr]

In a dream, years ago, I was exploring off planet and found a room with a closed door. Being the curious person I am, opened the door and stepped inside. Immediately there was a loud buzzing sound, the door was locked behind me and the room was filled with small robots, maybe Greys. I called out to friendly ETs for help. No help came. When I called upon my own power (Self) for help, I was immediately set free. Might be a lesson here. I see this room to be a trap similar to the light tunnel and memory erasure station.

[Sunny-side-up]

Hi Ron that was a very powerful dream you had and yes:

I called out to friendly ETs for help. No help came. When I called upon my own power (Self) for help, I was immediately set free.

there was a great lesson.
when our times come it is up to us to get through to the best place we can, under our own minds.
We would only have our selves to blame or thank then

[Mercedes]

Hi there Sunny! Thank you for the post. When I started a few years back, searching for answers anywhere I could, I read about ET's having some sort of technology and if I remember correctly it had to do with the moon, with this technology they where able to get your soul and hold it for whatever reason. That information alone made me so desperate to find the truth and a way to escape that faith that I was really anxious because I thought I was running out of time, now, years later I know what I have to do when the time comes. It has to do with what Ron Mauer Sr is saying, and we don't know what lies beyond the web or mesh they built arround our earth, but there are holes in it, and there is a way out. Now I just have to work on my courage to explore what is out there, cause I know I do not want to come back , even if it's such a beautiful planet. As long as it's being hijacked the way it is I do not want to come back.

[Bubu]

I sense some mind conditioning here, just as in many many cases, where the masses are told not to have what is good for them and to have what is not good for them. thanks for the thread I will remember to go to the light.

[Sunny-side-up]

I originally mentioned in those first posts about forbidden Taoist and Buddhist doctrines (which I experimented with, with great results, mind opening expanding results)

The so called darker monks who practice what most would call black magic use the doctrines to escape the mortal coil and or pick a better/higher level next visit

[Ron Mauer Sr]

It may be helpful to maintain a sense of humor and *not* give up your power. If you find yourself in front of a powerful looking board of ascended masters or imposters who say you must go in a specific direction, you say with conviction say "What are your credentials? Show me a picture ID.

You repeat "I go home to Source."

The board says "No".

You say "Do you think you can revoke my drivers license?"

[greybeard]

I have never ever read, heard, a mystic say dont go into the light.
I have heard repeatedly that Self realization is the way out of reincarnation.
Chris

[Ron Mauer Sr]

Posted by greybeard (here)
I have never ever read, heard, a mystic say dont go into the light.
I have heard repeatedly that Self realization is the way out of reincarnation.
Chris

Chris, have the mystics you are familiar with talked about the light tunnel? Can you summarize what they said?

My goal is to avoid manipulation. Reincarnation may be a good choice for learning.

[greybeard]

Ron been reading listening etc for forty years.
No mention of tunnel ---they say you are the light.
There is nothing to fear, not that you do.

Chris

[Ron Mauer Sr]

Posted by greybeard (here)
Ron been reading listening etc for forty years.
No mention of tunnel ---they say you are the light.
There is nothing to fear, not that you do.

Chris

Very interesting that they do not mention the light tunnel.

Many people do after a near death experience.
That is a very interesting dichotomy.
Perhaps the *immediate* path after croaking varies.

I have more strong suspicions than I do beliefs. Suspicions are easier to change based on new information that may feel good. My strongest suspicion is that we are all extensions of Source energy. And that includes the dark ones.

[RunningDeer]

Posted by Sunny-side-up (here)
"Don't go into the light" - Discussion thread
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ite+light+trap

Thanks, Alan.
Link correction: "Don't go into the light" - Discussion thread

[Wind]

First people made death a problem to be dealt with and now life after death is becoming a problem.

When you die you will actually know that this is just another thing that you don't have to worry about at all.

[greybeard]

Posted by Ron Mauer Sr (here)

Posted by greybeard (here)
Ron been reading listening etc for forty years.
No mention of tunnel ---they say you are the light.
There is nothing to fear, not that you do.

Chris

Very interesting that they do not mention the light tunnel.

Many people do after a near death experience.
That is a very interesting dichotomy.
Perhaps the *immediate* path after croaking varies.

I have more strong suspicions than I do beliefs. Suspicions are easier to change based on new information that may feel good. My strongest suspicion is that we are all extensions of Source energy. And that includes the dark ones.

Mystics tend to mention only what is relevant for the ones interested in not reincarnating--Self realization Ron.
Yes Ive listened to quite a few NDE accounts--thats a different ball game in that they are not enlightened through the experience and hav no free will about coming back--they had no choice --they would rather have stayed.

However several have said that they know that which ever deity they met be it Jesus--God etc.
It was them selves.
Dr Eben Alexander for one.
Anita Mootjani for another.
So they came back to share hope and testify to Oneness.

The Buddha warned against spiritual experiences--as hallucinations of the mind.
Some encourage but that's not it
Bottom line is that you are That--the Source in disguise as a person--till Truth is realized.

Chris

[Ron Mauer Sr]

It would be an enlightening experience to put the mystics and those who had an NDE experience in the same room and discuss what is experienced/perceived. If the croaking event involves free will choices it would be nice to understand ones options.

Those of us not yet enlightened could benefit from accurate information. My goal is to make good decisions.


Whenever the time is right, I hope to go to sleep while feeling good then wake up croaked and laughing about all the stuff I thought was important.

[Sunny-side-up]

You say "Do you think you can revoke my drivers license?"

Ron, like it.

Thanks RunningDeer, always like to see you around

Wind

First people made death a problem to be dealt with and now life after death is becoming a problem.

When you die you will actually know that this is just another thing that you don't have to worry about at all.

yes for sure, but we as humans can get tangled and confused even in such end matters.
And just maybe we do need to question the coming end, we have choices.
Choices:
Fear the end is most peoples way
Think and practice for it, see and take the choices which lead to a higher level of your path, well that might be considered enlightened.
You might already be at the high level and just go.
Individually we will do what we will do, if do anything we can.

BTW Hi greybeard

[Rich]

Just yesterday I watched a video in which the lady said the machine that recycles people back to earth has been turned off...

[RunningDeer]

Posted by Ron Mauer Sr (here)
It would be an enlightening experience to put the mystics and those who had an NDE experience in the same room and discuss what is experienced/perceived. If the croaking event involves free will choices it would be nice to understand ones options.

Those of us not yet enlightened could benefit from accurate information. My goal is to make good decisions.


Whenever the time is right, I hope to go to sleep while feeling good then wake up croaked and laughing about all the stuff I thought was important.

My goal is to be awake as I move from this space/state into the new. No death. A Tai Chi flow from here to there. An inner knowing. No mind chatter to slow the process down. I'll keep it simple because that's how it works for me.

In the meantime, I beef up my discernment skills. I feel through and use inner cognition (knowing) to experiment with the difference between the lower astral false light and beyond to unconditional love. I question. I challenge. I invite and un-invite as each adventure warrants.

My disclaimer: I’m a work in progress.

[Michi]

Posted by Rich (here)
Just yesterday I watched a video in which the lady said the machine that recycles people back to earth has been turned off...

There is also that recent video from Wes Penre explainig the trend towards Transhumanism making the existing reincarnation traps obsolete because when all spirits are trapped in a forever living body, there's no need for "forced reincarnation."