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    Default Re: Jeffrey Epstein & Ghislaine Maxwell: the whole story so far

    Fancy some foreshadowing?

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    Associated Press

    Jeffrey Epstein Taken Off Suicide Watch Before Death

    Published 10th August 2019

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    What comes next in Epstein case is very interesting.
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    Default Re: Jeffrey Epstein & Ghislaine Maxwell: the whole story so far

    Thanks Hervé. I'm with Jim Stone on this one. Why would a fireman be escorting his body out of the detention centre.....oh sorry I meant the firehouse back yard - evidenced by the stack of FDNY gurnies hanging from the wall?

    The whole thing is a hoax and as some have already suggested, Epstein is most likely well out of harm's way by now, save for that of the cosmetic surgeon's scalpel of course.

    Any "independent media" validating his death, either by suicide or murder should be recognized for what they are, either very stupid or willing participants of the pantomime.

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    Default Re: Jeffrey Epstein & Ghislaine Maxwell: the whole story so far

    Jim Stone's interpretation:

    BLOCKBUSTER: SECONDARY CONFIRMATION EPSTEIN IS NOT DEAD

    While I was spending the entire day on what I did, others spent the entire day going down an entirely different path and Voila! It is not even Epstein on the gurney at all. This surprised me. I figured they'd at least use his face and paste it in where needed, but as it turns out, they did not do that. I don't know where they got the image for the gurney but suspect they killed a lookalike, and used a stock photo to paste the look alike onto, or they used a lookalike to confuse investigation. TAKE A LOOK AT THIS:





    Let's get another look inside Epstein's ear.

    PLEASE NOTE: I have noticed some sort of AI is morphing all the Epstein pics to match the guy on the gurney and, to circumvent that, I looked up court sketches of Epstein (which an AI would not find or modify right, and they match this photo to the left

    Yep, that is correct, the confirmed correct ear does not match the guy on the gurney. But there is MUCH MUCH MORE:

    Someone did an animated Gif comparison between the man on the cart and the actual Epstein. Notice how, despite being close, the two do not match. The eyes don't line up perfect, the nose is sloped wrong, and the ears are different.



    Now look at this one Doc Savage posted on the Godlikeproductions forum: - it shows the exact same thing - a mismatched ear and very different facial features. The nose is different, the eyebrows are different, and I'd bet we did not get to see the mouth for a reason.



    BOTTOM LINE: Epstein is alive. He got smuggled out of the jail when there was no security for three entire hours and someone else was put in his place, possibly dead. I can't explain why the head on the gurney was the wrong size, but it is obvious this particular story is not even close to what was reported.


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    BNL NEWS‏ @BreakingNLive

    BREAKING: Two guards at the MCC who normally have overnight shift that watches over suicide risk inmates, were both told to leave area 3 hours earlier for scheduled "Maintenance" to jail cells and hallways. This morning Epstein was found dead

    10:03 AM - 10 Aug 2019
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    My best guess: "they" couldn't let him go to trial and he had some seriously potent and efficient "Kill Switch" to summarily get rid of him without serious consequences... so he was swapped with someone else for him to escape jail.

    Again, if we give some credence to Jim Stone, it was all already planned and Epstein's billionaire clients orchestrated celebration parties for today, 11th August, 2019...

    Quote A landscaper who works on elite properties has noticed that MANY elite are holding parties on August 11. The post is extremely poorly written, so bad it hurts the message, but IF it is true it begs the question: WHY would they be holding parties on the 11th?

    The following is not sourced, it is just floating around out there, and the nature of how it was written is spooky, this is NOT someone screwing around, this was posted by someone not very literate so it fits the profile perfectly as legit: . . . . .

    "I'm a landscaper and I work on properties that are owned by billionares and millionaires that are oil company executives ceos of large investing companies s and p 500 investors basically extremely powerful people and like 10 different clients are throwimg a party on August 11th even tho its not necessarily unusual for some of our clients to throw a party every now and then its highly unusual for this many of our clients to throw a party on the same exact day and ive been hearimg about this date from you and many fish I think these people know about somthing everone has been really secretove about it I asked what the party was for and no one knows"
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    Default Re: Jeffrey Epstein & Ghislaine Maxwell: the whole story so far

    Another great analysis of Amazing Polly


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    Default Re: Jeffrey Epstein & Ghislaine Maxwell: the whole story so far

    Those supposed death photos are very interesting.

    On another front, i hate to drag politics into this, but the President of the United States has of course injected himself into this. Maybe y'all heard he retweeted a guy saying the Clintons did it, and talking about the body trail.

    Quote “Died of SUICIDE on 24/7 SUICIDE WATCH ? Yeah right!” read the post from comedian Terrence K. Williams. “#JefferyEpstein had information on Bill Clinton & now he’s dead.”


    Died of SUICIDE on 24/7 SUICIDE WATCH ? Yeah right! How does that happen#JefferyEpstein had information on Bill Clinton & now he’s dead

    I see #TrumpBodyCount trending but we know who did this!

    RT if you’re not Surprised#EpsteinSuicide #ClintonBodyCount #ClintonCrimeFamily

    https://twitter.com/w_terrence?ref_s...ction-n1041146




    So much wrong here muddying the waters.

    Even though i dont doubt that people who the Clintons find, "inconvenient" shall we say, wind up dead, no matter HOW much power and influence they have, i dont think they could have pulled off something like this acting alone, no way Jose. No, it would have taken a whole slew of these powerful people actin in concert to do this.

    If you scroll down this comedian/actor's tweet page, it gets clear real quick like that hes a run of the mill self described "deplorable", especially if you watch his videos,who never misses an opportunity to point his finger at liberals for being the cause of all problems. What Trump has done is both send his base barreling straight after the Clintons with blinders on, ignoring any bigger picture, and also makes this political when its nothing of the kind.

    Theres already a fire burning. What he's doing is stoking that fire, redirecting part of that fire to keep his base stoked up and united, all for his own cheap political benefit, regardless of what other unknown effects it may have out there. Like a dumb kid playing with matches, not cool.

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    Yes - it's an incredibly well-researched and documented set of articles. I read the first 2 before you brought them to Avalon, but I just can't seem to apply the effort to correctly format the ones I post here at Avalon.

    I believe I first learned of this history here:

    https://www.neonrevolt.com/2019/07/1...ng-neonrevolt/

    The Mega group leads to so much historical exposures.

    I appreciate how well and thoroughly the content you bring here is presented.
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    Default Re: Jeffrey Epstein & Ghislaine Maxwell: the whole story so far

    I was watching the series "the making of the mob:new york" (wiki link), and found out one startlingly interesting fact.

    In New York, they basically owned the town, re police, ports, judicial, politics, all of it (or deeply entwined).

    That Little Rock was a mob 'free zone' enclave and vacation area.

    That it was literally a mob town, and basically connected to New York.

    New York area, eastern seaboard, mostly always..Democratic.

    And that whole murder Inc thing, 1000 people eliminated with no evidence, in a 10 year window.

    And those Murder Inc people, they were basically...Jewish. which is a Caspian sea area' thing, they were adopted into the Jewish religion, they were originally the world's best mercenaries. And their religion was sexually oriented, penis idolatry, etc.

    So, eastern seaboard, New York, Murder inc, Little rock and the Jewish connection. all the way back to the 1920's and earlier. (I mean.. the US government had to ask the New York Mob, to secure the entire NY coastal ports ports during WWII, it's the only way it could be done)



    Just think about that for a few minutes.

    so the connection is nearly 100 years old, in depth. So it's definitely had chances to mature. (and change, etc)
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    Jeffery Epstein's death was Deep State’s shot at Trump. We got him, we can get you.
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    Jeffrey Epstein’s endless connections

    by Jon Rappoport
    Aug 11, 2019

    Assertions and speculations spread like wildfire. Epstein was murdered. He isn’t dead at all, he was ferreted out of jail and taken to Israel. He killed himself. The video cameras in jail malfunctioned (were turned off on purpose). Epstein paid off guards so he could engineer his covert escape. He’s dead, a victim of the rising Clinton body count. Trump is in the Epstein scandal up to his eyeballs. And so on.

    I call your attention to two writers who are digging into Epstein’s seemingly endless, high-level connections. One is Wayne Madsen (twitter), whose recent article is posted at Intrepid Report: Politics and pedophilia: a demonic mix.

    The other is Whitney Webb (twitter), at MintPress News: Mega Group, Maxwells and Mossad: The Spy Story at the Heart of the Jeffrey Epstein Scandal.

    Both these articles delve into Epstein’s international relationships, particularly in, or dedicated to, the State of Israel. Webb’s multi-part series is massive.

    These two articles (and others) are written against a background everyone is now familiar with—Epstein’s trove of knowledge about powerful men having sex with his underage girls, and the undoubted blackmail material Epstein possessed that could be used to control such men.

    It’s unclear how much of this material would have emerged, in convincing detail, if Epstein’s trial had taken place. Certainly, during the proceedings, the press would have had a field day with it. The recent federal charges against Epstein involved sex trafficking of minors. In bringing evidence in court, it’s entirely possible that specific “customers” would have been exposed, at least by implication, if not directly.

    In my non-legal opinion, a great deal of wrangling would have occurred around the issue of naming names of customers. The judge might have ruled that names had to be omitted in the courtroom.

    If so, why isn’t Epstein still present in jail awaiting trial? Perhaps in recent months, he had made private threats to name names unless he was somehow taken off the hook. If his powerful cohorts and handlers believed he was becoming unstable, if he was now a loose cannon, they would have taken action.

    If you read the two articles I’ve referred to above, whether you accept the findings and assertions of the authors or not, you’ll certainly derive a sense of how much protection must exist to keep Epstein’s connections safe and secure. The man seemed to “know everybody.” Scientists at Harvard, lawyers, very rich businessmen, spies, organized crime figures, presidents…

    There are also very serious questions about Epstein’s money. As in billions of dollars (?) Where did it come from? Did he really earn it by investing for clients? Or was it funneled to him, to prop him up, so he could himself act as a secret agent collecting blackmail material on key men around the world? Did he have a close and enduring relationship with the Mossad?

    As usual, in researching the answers to these questions, you don’t find smoking guns lying on a table in full view under a spotlight. At least not yet. You have to make a convincing circumstantial case, for which most people, unfortunately, don’t have the patience. They simply want to assume they already know everything worth knowing. Then they fixate on one detail or one claim, tell you it proves they’re right on the whole story, and move on.

    After reading Madsen’s and Webb’s work (particularly Webb’s), I’m at least convinced the Jeffrey Epstein story is much, much bigger than most people realize. It’s shocking that Epstein, with all his connections, ever emerged in public view at all. You’d think the man would have been kept under wraps. But then, given what he has been doing, and with whom, and where (his island fortress), how could he remain anonymous? It seems that, for decades, he has virtually been asking for attention. He’s been bragging about his crimes. These are not the acts and attitudes of a traditional spy/agent. All along, people behind Epstein have been taking a risk, purposely stimulating their adrenaline, betting on the money line that no matter what eventually happened to him, they would be able to escape unscathed.

    I believe that’s called a clue. It tells you something about the degree of power they possess. And it tells you something about their hubris.

    Long, long ago, they crossed the line between any sort of morality and sheer crime. Operating in darkness, they won their game, over and over. What is left? Their basic character bankrupted, they can only indulge their appetite for more destruction. Whether they know it or not, whether they care or not, this becomes self-destruction. That doesn’t solve our problem, but it puts a cap on their problem.

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    It occurred to me earlier today that Epstein, is/was the lynch-pin of western power, as incredible as it seems. One man having so many varied and intertwining connections to the Who's who of who runs the world is almost too fantastic to believe. Until you start reading. It just goes on and on.

    The documentation of connections is just astounding. I would never have believed such a web of connections spun by one man would be possible, before I knew anything about him. It's just incredible. It defies every single thing we are taught about this world. And yet, there it is.
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    Quote Posted by Valerie Villars (here)
    It occurred to me earlier today that Epstein, is/was the lynch-pin of western power, as incredible as it seems. One man having so many varied and intertwining connections to the Who's who of who runs the world is almost too fantastic to believe. Until you start reading. It just goes on and on.

    The documentation of connections is just astounding. I would never have believed such a web of connections spun by one man would be possible, before I knew anything about him. It's just incredible. It defies every single thing we are taught about this world. And yet, there it is.
    Valerie, could you call Epstein the "Keystone"?
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    Quote Posted by mgray (here)
    Quote Posted by Valerie Villars (here)
    It occurred to me earlier today that Epstein, is/was the lynch-pin of western power, as incredible as it seems. One man having so many varied and intertwining connections to the Who's who of who runs the world is almost too fantastic to believe. Until you start reading. It just goes on and on.

    The documentation of connections is just astounding. I would never have believed such a web of connections spun by one man would be possible, before I knew anything about him. It's just incredible. It defies every single thing we are taught about this world. And yet, there it is.
    Valerie, could you call Epstein the "Keystone"?
    That’s it!! Bingo! Thank you.

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    Yes. That is what a lynch pin is.
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    Well, this is quite strange:

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    [YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=L3NBXBdazjs/YOUTUBE]

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    Quote Posted by Antagenet (here)
    [YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=L3NBXBdazjs/YOUTUBE]
    If this guy were just calling for an anti elite uprising in general, to be OF the avg American in general i could understand but, he's not. Hes calling for yet more separation, a right winger calling for a right wing uprising to yet further separate us, and set off this possible looming civil war. I dont think a violent partisan political uprising will end in the utopia he envisions. And i think people like him are dangerous, might doesn't make right ha ha.

    If "they" start going door to door for the guns one day thats one thing, its more bipartisan, then all bets are off, but to be purposely putting another lit match toward that powder keg from one narrow political perspective? Thank you but not interested.

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    When in doubt, do the next right thing.
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