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    I'm hoping I might be able to get some insights or advice from others on this one.
    I have had 2 major contactee experiences in my adult life - in both cases with Greys involved.

    In 2014 I experienced a visitation by a different entity - humanoid form that appeared entirely shiny black like a glossy wetsuit.

    As I got out of bed and switched the light on it " vanished" although I could make out the outline shimmer of it standing in the corner of the room. It then rushed out of the door and I experienced a strong EM field as it left.

    Physical indicators of it's presence...my nearby cordless phone tripped on and off; the broadband modem fried and a tech had to call out to restore my service..he advised the lead in cable at the house was damaged and there was a second fault at the exchange on my service. 3 of the 4 electric motors in my adopter drone fused and had to be replaced.

    Without going into great detail my life went downhill markedly from there and hasn't recovered.

    Strangely I met a person later who had also experienced the entities I described. He claimed they were human, high military and wearing a high tech suit.

    I'm at a loss and hope to learn more.
    Does this resonate with anyone?
    Any input is welcomed.
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    I should add, the chap I met claimed that the black beings appeared to be attempting to shut down those who had contact experiences with the Greys.

    This certainly appeared to be true in both our cases.
    I can report a sense of " programming" having occurred after my encounter with the black figure.

    I reached out to my partner and a friend afterwards, explaining that I "wasn't right" after the encounter.

    The rest I choose not to go into on here as the change in my life has been traumatic. Suffice it to say I was shut down in the most horrible of ways.
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    Hi there, thanks, and welcome to the forum!

    Do maybe listen to this fascinating interview with Robert Guffey (the author of Chameleo). There's a VERY interesting thread about him and his experiences here:
    Here's an interview I found yesterday. It's highly entertaining, and great value. The connection here is that towards the end of the interview Guffey describes how once he saw a bunch of 'Men in Black' in a car park, complete with shiny black Chevy, who were CLEARLY intel agents all dressed up as in Halloween costumes.

    Guffey argues that it's entirely possible that MANY apparently ET or paranormal experiences could be the work of agencies or military operatives experimenting with this kind of technology. I'd highly recommend it.


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    The military/MILAB thing was completely unknown to me prior to the 2014 incident.
    I can say I'm very familiar with the Greys and the black entity was completely different to the tone and feel of the prior Grey contact encounters.

    This being certainly reacted in a far more human manner, and that's consistent with what I was told later about it being humanoid.

    As a matter of interest for readers, my experience of the Greys is that they possess a "hive mind"...they collude telepathically and hence they do not move or respond with the deftness or speed of a human (we of course think independently).

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    Lakota, the military/milab thing was completely unknown to me also, prior to 2013.

    It all sounds so fantastic until you go through it. I believe the book "Chamelo" is also in the Avalon library if you want to read it. It's a good book. The interview Bill posted was really good also. I listened to it yesterday.

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    Thank you Valerie, I will most certainly take a look at the book and also thanks to Bill - will have a look at the video also.

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    Greetings Lakota,

    I know you from reading your OP that you are convinced that your visit is due to contact with "Greys" BUT I notice on your profile that you are an author have you considered the visit may have something to do with something you are writing or will write in the future?
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    Hi, I should explain I was not an author at the time of the first two contact experiences. Actually I was a civilian flight instructor at the time. I was drawn to environmental protection after the first encounter and have done a great deal of work in marine environmentalism. The writing flowed as a result of that...books on marine preservation.

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    I know that you really didn't want to share what happened to your life after the experience. But I am curious, can you share some of the types of things that happened, without giving too many details that are personal to you? Did you experience the voice to skull? The downloads? And all of the other things that most MiLabs tend to discuss? I believe many people have these experiences, FEW share them. But I doubt they are going to lighten up, and only happen more in frequency in the future.

    I do hope that things have settled down since then, and that you have been able to put your life back into order.

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    I know that you really didn't want to share what happened to your life after the experience. But I am curious, can you share some of the types of things that happened, without giving too many details that are personal to you? Did you experience the voice to skull? The downloads? And all of the other things that most MiLabs tend to discuss? I believe many people have these experiences, FEW share them. But I doubt they are going to lighten up, and only happen more in frequency in the future.

    I do hope that things have settled down since then, and that you have been able to put your life back into order.
    Hi Denise
    To answer your question - I do have a lot of information I can share about the Grey encounters, and those experiences included large amounts of information transfer and telepathic communication (I'm not sure if that's what you mean by "voice to skull")

    For the purpose of keeping topics separate, I would be happy to perhaps open a thread in an appropriate category to speak in-depth about the Greys.

    On this thread I'll try to stick to the 2014 encounter with the black entity which I'll call a possible Milab encounter - it being quite different to the Grey experiences.

    That being said the Milab incident seemed to have a couple of similar traits to previous Grey encounters...the night after the incident I have described on my first post, I woke feeling they had returned and "got into my head"...that feeling was similar to one I experienced previously...the sense of having been programmed.

    I wasn't right after that. Physical symptoms..severe uncontrollable muscle twitch...feelings of disorientation lasting for a couple of weeks.

    Then in late 2014, I will just say I acted strangely out of character...all seemed normal at the time.

    I have more recently been seeking out info on the Milab phenomenon and I can say that Eve Lorgen's interview with Milab Lilu Tuatha has a scary resonance.

    I've attached a copy of the Eve Lorgen - Lilu Tuatha interview for reference.
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    Quote Posted by Denise/Dizi (here)
    I know that you really didn't want to share what happened to your life after the experience. But I am curious, can you share some of the types of things that happened, without giving too many details that are personal to you? Did you experience the voice to skull? The downloads? And all of the other things that most MiLabs tend to discuss? I believe many people have these experiences, FEW share them. But I doubt they are going to lighten up, and only happen more in frequency in the future.

    I do hope that things have settled down since then, and that you have been able to put your life back into order.
    Hi Denise
    To answer your question - I do have a lot of information I can share about the Grey encounters, and those experiences included large amounts of information transfer and telepathic communication (I'm not sure if that's what you mean by "voice to skull")

    For the purpose of keeping topics separate, I would be happy to perhaps open a thread in an appropriate category to speak in-depth about the Greys.

    On this thread I'll try to stick to the 2014 encounter with the black entity which I'll call a possible Milab encounter - it being quite different to the Grey experiences.

    That being said the Milab incident seemed to have a couple of similar traits to previous Grey encounters...the night after the incident I have described on my first post, I woke feeling they had returned and "got into my head"...that feeling was similar to one I experienced previously...the sense of having been programmed.

    I wasn't right after that. Physical symptoms..severe uncontrollable muscle twitch...feelings of disorientation lasting for a couple of weeks.

    Then in late 2014, I will just say I acted strangely out of character...all seemed normal at the time.

    I have more recently been seeking out info on the Milab phenomenon and I can say that Eve Lorgen's interview with Milab Lilu Tuatha has a scary resonance.
    Thank you for offering up more details. I think it would be wonderful if you started another thread that describes better the experiences with the greys. I would love to learn more personally.. I wrote "voice to skull" because you were mentioning the Possibilities of a MiLabs experience. And I believe they're known more for synthetic telepathy than actual telepathy.

    To be honest, I am not sure how natural telepathy works.. And the greys have been described as being robotic in nature, so in my opinion they may have some technology built into their minds that does allow for them to gain entry into ours, in a way we would consider "Telepathic". "A mind power, to connect minds" essentially.

    The entire subject is fascinating to me.. I will keep an eye out for any new threads that you may start. I am excited now, knowing more may be coming. Thank you for sharing with us Lakota. Nice to meet you..

    By the way I had my own strange experiences in 2014.. I wasn't myself afterwards either, so I am very thrilled to see what you write. It took me months to recover.. My family thought that I had lost my mind. It was so cool though that I would welcome it again. Is that terrible? HAHAHA.

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    I happened upon this forum whilst looking for further information on the Milab phenomenon. I'm heartened by the warmth and openness displayed by members since I signed on.
    I would be very happy to share what I have experienced with the Greys - I will open a new thread soon; I'll get more of a handle on the forum protocols so I post in the appropriate section etc.
    Perhaps some of the information may assist you in making sense of what you experienced in 2014.

    Perhaps it's in some ways a good thing that I am recounting my 'Milab' experience without having seen a great deal of information on the topic.
    That at least means that my perception is not overly tainted by the experiences and perceptions of others.

    From what I have read so far, the premise of the Milab program is the recruitment of contactees (I've never liked the term abductee, so you'll never see me use it); to use those individuals and their abilities (?) for some human based high military purpose.
    I can only say that in my case, I have only felt that I have been shut down or silenced. I am still fighting for my freedom and have now been separated from my partner and family for 3 years.

    I'll save my response regards the Greys and telepathy for the appropriate thread...more about that soon!
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    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...bility-program

    I've just started listening to the Robert Guffey interview and some points resonate immediately:
    1. The reference to high-tech invisibility suits:
    This is exactly what I experienced myself. The black-suited entity could make itself invisible (I had the bedroom light on at the time) almost like a 'chameleon'
    I could actually still make out a vague shimmer or outline where the being was standing. (If you've ever seen Star trek where the Klingon ship cloaks itself but you can see it's shape against the background of space; the effect looks exactly like that).

    2. The fellow that I subsequently met, who had experience with these beings - I'll call him Garry - had witnessed them on several occasions. They appeared to be keeping him under surveillance....and strangely just like the bloke in Robert Guffey's story, Garry was also a recreational drug user. It did make me wonder whether he suffered paranoia or was delusional; although a number of things he described rang true. Garry stated the beings were human - some sort of military. He told me he had seen them using unmarked vehicles or minivans to get around. And he had seen them putting the high-tech suits on. He claimed he also witnessed a suit failure - the female operator became visible as her suit 'shorted out' or failed.
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    Robert Guffey's book Chameleo is no longer in the Avalon Library, but here's a 7-day download link for the book as a PDF, and also the mp3 audiobook.

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    Robert Guffey's book Chameleo is no longer in the Avalon Library, but here's a 7-day download link for the book as a PDF, and also the mp3 audiobook.
    Thank you so much Bill...that's greatly appreciated!
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    Hi, I should explain I was not an author at the time of the first two contact experiences. Actually I was a civilian flight instructor at the time. I was drawn to environmental protection after the first encounter and have done a great deal of work in marine environmentalism. The writing flowed as a result of that...books on marine preservation.
    Care to share some of this literary work? Please.
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    I know that you really didn't want to share what happened to your life after the experience. But I am curious, can you share some of the types of things that happened, without giving too many details that are personal to you? Did you experience the voice to skull? The downloads? And all of the other things that most MiLabs tend to discuss? I believe many people have these experiences, FEW share them. But I doubt they are going to lighten up, and only happen more in frequency in the future.

    I do hope that things have settled down since then, and that you have been able to put your life back into order.
    Hi Denise
    To answer your question - I do have a lot of information I can share about the Grey encounters, and those experiences included large amounts of information transfer and telepathic communication (I'm not sure if that's what you mean by "voice to skull")

    For the purpose of keeping topics separate, I would be happy to perhaps open a thread in an appropriate category to speak in-depth about the Greys.

    On this thread I'll try to stick to the 2014 encounter with the black entity which I'll call a possible Milab encounter - it being quite different to the Grey experiences.

    That being said the Milab incident seemed to have a couple of similar traits to previous Grey encounters...the night after the incident I have described on my first post, I woke feeling they had returned and "got into my head"...that feeling was similar to one I experienced previously...the sense of having been programmed.

    I wasn't right after that. Physical symptoms..severe uncontrollable muscle twitch...feelings of disorientation lasting for a couple of weeks.

    Then in late 2014, I will just say I acted strangely out of character...all seemed normal at the time.

    I have more recently been seeking out info on the Milab phenomenon and I can say that Eve Lorgen's interview with Milab Lilu Tuatha has a scary resonance.
    Thank you for offering up more details. I think it would be wonderful if you started another thread that describes better the experiences with the greys. I would love to learn more personally.. I wrote "voice to skull" because you were mentioning the Possibilities of a MiLabs experience. And I believe they're known more for synthetic telepathy than actual telepathy.

    To be honest, I am not sure how natural telepathy works.. And the greys have been described as being robotic in nature, so in my opinion they may have some technology built into their minds that does allow for them to gain entry into ours, in a way we would consider "Telepathic". "A mind power, to connect minds" essentially.

    The entire subject is fascinating to me.. I will keep an eye out for any new threads that you may start. I am excited now, knowing more may be coming. Thank you for sharing with us Lakota. Nice to meet you..

    By the way I had my own strange experiences in 2014.. I wasn't myself afterwards either, so I am very thrilled to see what you write. It took me months to recover.. My family thought that I had lost my mind. It was so cool though that I would welcome it again. Is that terrible? HAHAHA.

    Oddly my life fell apart fall 2014 when my husband began acting very strangely...all is well now and he also felt like everything was fantastic at the time ...looking back now he can’t believe the things he said and did

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    Given the subject matter we have been discussing here - this is probably the best book to start with.
    It is literary fiction which combines an environmental message with a lot of what I have experienced buried into it.

    http://getbook.at/Home-LeoJai-ebook
    http://getbook.at/Home-LeoJai-paperback
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    Hi, I should explain I was not an author at the time of the first two contact experiences. Actually I was a civilian flight instructor at the time. I was drawn to environmental protection after the first encounter and have done a great deal of work in marine environmentalism. The writing flowed as a result of that...books on marine preservation.
    Care to share some of this literary work? Please.
    Given the subject matter we have been discussing here - this is probably the best book to start with.
    It is literary fiction which combines an environmental message with a lot of what I have experienced buried into it.

    http://getbook.at/Home-LeoJai-ebook
    http://getbook.at/Home-LeoJai-paperback

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    Hi, I should explain I was not an author at the time of the first two contact experiences. Actually I was a civilian flight instructor at the time. I was drawn to environmental protection after the first encounter and have done a great deal of work in marine environmentalism. The writing flowed as a result of that...books on marine preservation.
    Care to share some of this literary work? Please.
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    I know that you really didn't want to share what happened to your life after the experience. But I am curious, can you share some of the types of things that happened, without giving too many details that are personal to you? Did you experience the voice to skull? The downloads? And all of the other things that most MiLabs tend to discuss? I believe many people have these experiences, FEW share them. But I doubt they are going to lighten up, and only happen more in frequency in the future.

    I do hope that things have settled down since then, and that you have been able to put your life back into order.
    Hi Denise
    To answer your question - I do have a lot of information I can share about the Grey encounters, and those experiences included large amounts of information transfer and telepathic communication (I'm not sure if that's what you mean by "voice to skull")

    For the purpose of keeping topics separate, I would be happy to perhaps open a thread in an appropriate category to speak in-depth about the Greys.

    On this thread I'll try to stick to the 2014 encounter with the black entity which I'll call a possible Milab encounter - it being quite different to the Grey experiences.

    That being said the Milab incident seemed to have a couple of similar traits to previous Grey encounters...the night after the incident I have described on my first post, I woke feeling they had returned and "got into my head"...that feeling was similar to one I experienced previously...the sense of having been programmed.

    I wasn't right after that. Physical symptoms..severe uncontrollable muscle twitch...feelings of disorientation lasting for a couple of weeks.

    Then in late 2014, I will just say I acted strangely out of character...all seemed normal at the time.

    I have more recently been seeking out info on the Milab phenomenon and I can say that Eve Lorgen's interview with Milab Lilu Tuatha has a scary resonance.
    Thank you for offering up more details. I think it would be wonderful if you started another thread that describes better the experiences with the greys. I would love to learn more personally.. I wrote "voice to skull" because you were mentioning the Possibilities of a MiLabs experience. And I believe they're known more for synthetic telepathy than actual telepathy.

    To be honest, I am not sure how natural telepathy works.. And the greys have been described as being robotic in nature, so in my opinion they may have some technology built into their minds that does allow for them to gain entry into ours, in a way we would consider "Telepathic". "A mind power, to connect minds" essentially.

    The entire subject is fascinating to me.. I will keep an eye out for any new threads that you may start. I am excited now, knowing more may be coming. Thank you for sharing with us Lakota. Nice to meet you..

    By the way I had my own strange experiences in 2014.. I wasn't myself afterwards either, so I am very thrilled to see what you write. It took me months to recover.. My family thought that I had lost my mind. It was so cool though that I would welcome it again. Is that terrible? HAHAHA.

    Oddly my life fell apart fall 2014 when my husband began acting very strangely...all is well now and he also felt like everything was fantastic at the time ...looking back now he can’t believe the things he said and did
    Would be very happy to chat with you about that, if it is something you feel you want to discuss.
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    Thank You for sharing Earth Angel. These experiences seem to be coming in clusters and waves.. I plan to read up on what Lakota was doing at the time, and reading what they share. I am so curious to see if your husband also can relate to those experiences.. (If they're similar to my own).. I think it would be wonderful if the conversation kept going on this and other threads, as they seem to go cold after a short while. And without continuing the conversation we will never know what it all really means.

    I was stunned recently to find others that had pieces to my own puzzle. So please do, if you can, share if something sounds familiar? Even if it doesn't actually.. as you never know who may relate to it..

    It would be / could be ..so beneficial to not only you, in knowing that he was not alone, but to others who are browsing Avalon for the same reasons. Nice to meet you along with Lakota.. and I do hope you come back to the thread.

    Thank you for the links Lakota.

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