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    Some love them, some rely on them and some simply won't touch them.
    What evidence is there that a card with letters on it and a planchette will invoke the spirit realm?
    What is the physics behind such a technique working? Even cutting up pieces of paper with and a different letter on each, and placing in a circle with a YES and NO added. Then a glass in the middle with people touching gently.

    Are people unknowingly influencing it or is there a genuine unseen force communicating via the participants?

    what's your view on this means of communicating with the "other side" - harmless, effective or very dangerous?

    Anyone had any "reliable" or "interesting" experience that they were later able to verify or validate the "message" received or the identity of the entity communicating.

    For something apparently so sinsister, it appears to now be selling mainstream on Amazon -



    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Psychic-Cir...dp/0671866451/

    Stay away or use it to develop your psychic and interdimensional communication skills?

    Whats your thoughts on a circle circle/ouija board?

    curious.
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    i had a bad experience with it. I think that when you do ouija you will open a door with the spirit world...but spirits are like human, if you have a good energy and a nobile purpose will come good spirits, but if you have bad vibes and supeficials purpose will come bad spirit...just because they can see your very truth... anyway, itís better to stay aware...or be shoure to close the door at the and... many of bad spirits wants to take you to the wrong way, and this can be dangerous for your personal spirit evolucion.

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    "I do believe in ghosts, I do, I do, I do!" said the cowardly lion in the Wizard of Oz. "And so do I!" said Hip Hipnotist after nearly burning to death when a massive fire consumed the house I was staying in after burning a -- you guessed it... ouija board!

    I won't go into details now, perhaps some other time if enough interest, because just thinking about makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up. And I don't have any hair on the back of my neck!

    In short I'd say if you don't believe in ghosts/spirits you WILL after messing with a ouija board. And to think they sell these to kids. ;-((

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    I wrote a book about my experiences. The ouija opened the door to absolutely mind blowingly intense experiences....which ultimately took me to the hieghts of heaven ... and the depths of hell.

    I include a warning about ouija at the start of the book. I don't recommend it at all. It can open doors to powerful energies, that can be way beyond our ability to understand and work with. I know now that there are much getter and safer ways to access the world beyond the veil.

    For anyone interested.....




    https://www.amazon.com/Jump-Into-Blu.../dp/B00WWD34K6
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    As a youth, I tried the ouija board many times, because several of my friends and relatives had one.
    I was always so terribly disappointed because absolutely nothing happened regardless of me being totally open.
    Clearly many claim experiences, but I have never witnessed one.
    Perhaps my mind is being shielded or protected (somehow).
    I have also never seen a ghost but have had a couple of friends who have.
    Unquestionably we are all connected in this or any other universe, so there are unimaginable avenues of information exchange, but perhaps I lack a specific sense.
    I certainly would love to witness many of the experiences people here talk about.

    The biggest problem with the human mind is that it is ridiculously easy to manipulate using various technologies, drugs, mental illnesses (schizophrenia for example), hypnotic suggestions, etc... that it becomes very hard to learn anything especially when these phenomena are not easily reproducible.

    Regardless I remain open to ANY possibility, and am here to learn.

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    For me, I stay far away. Here's why.

    Dark entities operate on loopholes and cracks in defense. So it's nigh-impossible to use it safely. You're basically just unlocking the door to your house, turning on all the lights, and putting a sign outside that says 'Hey, come in!'.

    You could get nice people in your house.

    Or you could get a murderous psychopath.

    Not worth the risk, imo.

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    I have been a professional psychic (among other hats I wear) for more than 30 years, and warn everyone to completely stay away from Ouija boards! They are one of the most dangerous tools on the planet, and should never be sold in a toy store.

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    Quote Posted by Arcturian108 (here)
    I have been a professional psychic (among other hats I wear) for more than 30 years, and warn everyone to completely stay away from Ouija boards! They are one of the most dangerous tools on the planet, and should never be sold in a toy store.
    Do you have any wild stories about it?

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    I've told this elsewhere, but my Mom and my uncle playing with Ouija when I was 12 opened the way for a very dangerous and dark energy which attached itself to innocent me, and even physically attacked me.

    It's a very dangerous thing to play with.
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    I would say that it is safer to play russian roulette with three bullets inserted in the cylinder instead of "playing" ouija.

    Some things aren't worth trying. You may get lucky a few times, until you don't. Yet it is marketed for all the poor souls...
    "When you've seen beyond yourself, then you may find, peace of mind is waiting there." ~ George Harrison

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    Quote Posted by Intranuclear (here)
    I certainly would love to witness many of the experiences people here talk about.
    I understand why you feel this way, but do not go looking for this.

    I am here posting on this site because of the things I have been through. It is a very different perspective than yours.

    These energies/entities can really mess with your life. They can reach out and affect other people and things you are dealing with. My life was completely derailed from something that I am still trying to make sense of.

    Another thing...have you ever been totally beaten up? Do you know someone who has? And now everywhere they go they are looking over their shoulder because they are afraid that they might get jumped?

    Would you want that in your life?

    People that have not had these experinces seem to think it is like a fun "boo" and scary haunted house amusement. Ha ha - that was fun.

    Not fun. Not when it is real. But because you have not experienced it yourself, you can not understand what reality that then creates.

    If you are a parent how do you protect your child from a predator that you can not see? Is not stopped by walls, etc.

    And yes, people have used religion to make them go away. I can tell you - in my case, crosses, bibles, etc., did not work. (I appreciate everyone who has ever offered support. For real.)

    It doesn't surprise me that we are always trying to tell people about not using a Oija board. There will always be people who do not think that there is anything to be concerned about.

    But those people end up telling other people about their experince with a Oija board.

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    The insurmountable problem I have with the ouija board is this: I take a piece of paper, write the letters of the alphabet, put yes and no on it, and voila, I now have a ouija board.
    Therefore this necessarily suggests that the board is NOT and cannot be the thing that "conjures" whatever negative or positive or uncaring entities, but must certainly be the mind and the intent of the user.
    This must also be true of automatic writing, tarot cards, solitaire, dice, bones, stones, and a billion other things that people use to focus or help focus to "see" or experience something.

    Remote viewing is a perfect example, where a ouija board is not even required, and just with a pen and paper it allows the viewer to "see".

    We are left with two things, abilities and belief.
    Without belief, no amount of ability makes a difference, and without ability, no amount of belief makes a difference.

    Ability + Belief + Intent + Action = Outcome

    So what I am suggesting is that those people here who have experiences to share, are the key. You guys likely posses some innate ability, however acquired, that allows you to channel whatever energies that you allow or open up to.

    A trivial example: a soldier who is open to follow a command, is willing to put his morality and ethics aside and pick up a gun and kill other people.
    So, is it the gun alone that was the danger?

    Only a true fool would think that just because one cannot see something that it does not or cannot exist.
    I think the mind, any mind (animals, people, aliens) is a terribly powerful tool and we as a collective have only just begun to scratch at the surface of its capabilities.
    Along the way, as has been demonstrated by history, the mind has been responsible for countless atrocities and countless good.

    This insanely infinite existence must necessarily harbor everything that can and cannot be imagined, and trying to shelter ourselves from all possible forms of danger clearly will isolate us further and we will end up as paranoid entities and certainly dangerous to other human and non-human entities (trivial example: we kill many billions of animals per year without remorse regardless of demonstrated intelligence even from the lowliest of them).

    If death is simply a shedding of form (body) as many seem to believe, then what is there to fear?

    Again, I am not remotely suggesting that fear should be abandoned, however, we as paranoid creatures, if we survive our growth and the planet allows us, will very likely go out and encounter other paranoid entities and the outcome bodes badly for one or both of us.

    Back to ouija boards.
    Those here who have practiced it with "success", was it always when you were alone, or with just one other, or with other onlookers?
    Is there a pattern?
    Any of you try to log or record the experience?

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    I had an experience as a young boy, around ten?, with my aunt (father's side) and my mother. My aunt was into it as a parlor trick. But my mother and I are both rather psychic.

    That little pod-like thing was whipping around the board answering questions. We summoned a few spirits of dead ancestors.

    When the table started moving and dis-embodied voices started moaning, my mother and I quickly withdrew our fingers - and it all stopped. I've never seen my aunt so spooked. The Ouija board was never used again.

    At the time I had no idea of my own power but knew my mom had the 'gift'. Kinda started wondering if I might have it too around that time, after that incident.
    Forget about it

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    Quote Posted by BlueSpirit (here)
    i had a bad experience with it. I think that when you do ouija you will open a door with the spirit world...but spirits are like human, if you have a good energy and a nobile purpose will come good spirits, but if you have bad vibes and supeficials purpose will come bad spirit...just because they can see your very truth... anyway, itís better to stay aware...or be shoure to close the door at the and... many of bad spirits wants to take you to the wrong way, and this can be dangerous for your personal spirit evolucion.
    It's interesting you mention closing the door at the end. Does that imply that one needs the appropriate incantation, mantra, or door opening ceremony to begin and use the board safely, or can others achieve easier and better results using alternate processes & means without the need of a board and planchette to communicate with the other side - successfully? Many simply use meditation to channel or communicate without the need to purchase such devices.

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    But its fair to say that kids nowadays get up to a heck of a lot more than those one or two generations ago

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    OK, @enfoldedblue your reviews intrigued me I just bought a copy of your book for here in the UK - £10
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    @Arcturian108, As a professional psychic in not using a ouija board, do you believe there is a danger of people using other methods such Seances or EVP. Others have stories of regularly seeing coins materialise or get thrown at them, and the date on the coin being signifcant.

    Some people believe that "the other side" can communicate via their dreams or even wind chimes. Cana negative entity communicate with you via yoru dreams like it may attempt to do via a ouija board to the untrained or uninitiated?

    Some believe that a white feather appearing or floating down beside you might also be a message from the other side. Whilst others believe that electricity or electro magnetic frequencies can be leveraged to communicate.

    I'm just curious that many other methods don't appear to get such a bad wrap/press. I'm sure they do, but perhaps not so many people have tried them or would share their experiences - not sure
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    @Intranuclear...

    Quote Posted by Intranuclear (here)
    Regardless I remain open to ANY possibility, and am here to learn.
    I think you nailed it. The ability to be or remain open can massively change one's perspective, awareness and receptivity to receiving messages, clues or insights from other realms, not neccessarily in having to rely on a Ouija board as the "medium". I dare say, practice makes perfect the more one pursues their preferred medium, method or device.

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    Some quarters simply believe that there is nothing sinister or paranormal about it, and is simply the ideomotor effect in action.

    Do you think that it's simply an unconscious involuntary physical movement that we make when we are so focused on not making a movement?

    I apologise if my replies are out of sync here, but I am curious about this "phenomena" if I can call it that.

    Would one get the same results if doing it alone or in a group or would results be the same if you were blindfolded but videoed the exercise and
    play back to see what the results would be.

    Interestingly, would participants recall more accurate information via a ouija board or as mentioned above - remote viewing? Or via a seance or channeller.

    Do people have the same fear, mistrust or trepidation towards dowsing with crystals, pendulums, coathangers, willow rods to get answers to questions.

    What about Autowriting? I bet many have tried that, but can also surmise that many wouldn't incase it opens up something negative in one's psyche and potentially lets another "personality" enter.

    Are there more safer, proven and reliable methods of communicating with the other side, or simply no - there's not, because it doesn't exist.

    What do you believe, have tested, and are satisfied with?

    Is Ouija a Jaoui or a Ninenon, and what about other methods of communicating with the other side in your opinion - a thumbs up or a thumbs down?

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    Default Re: Ouija

    The late Dr David Hawkins warne against Ouija Board--said it comes from the lower astral--will give accurate info to pull you in then!!!

    He extensively use Kinesology--muscle testing--with teams of people to make sure the results were valid
    Any quetion could be answere if aske correctly.
    Full details in his book "Power vs Force"

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