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    Default US and Israel fabricating lies to provoke war with Iran: Ex-CIA officer

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    Quote A former American counter-terrorism specialist and military intelligence officer of the CIA says some elements in the Donald Trump administration in collaboration with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu are fabricating lies in order to provoke a war with Iran.

    “The United States is moving dangerously forward in what appears to be a deliberate attempt to provoke a war with Iran, apparently based on threat intelligence provided by Israel,” Philip Giraldi wrote in article published on Friday.

    “The claims made by National Security Advisor John Bolton and by Secretary of State Mike Pompeo that there is solid evidence of Iran’s intention to attack US forces in the Persian Gulf region is almost certainly a fabrication, possibly deliberately contrived by Bolton and company in collaboration with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu,” he stated.

    “It will be used to justify sending bombers and additional naval air resources to confront any possible moves by Tehran to maintain its oil exports, which were blocked by Washington last week. If the US Navy tries to board ships carrying Iranian oil it will undoubtedly, and justifiably, provoke a violent response from Iran, which is precisely what Bolton, Pompeo and Netanyahu are seeking,” he noted.
    lies to start a war = false flag

    The major (by a long ways) lobbyist organization influencing USA foreign policy is AIPAC, Israeli Zionists. That is overt, but if you have been watching the Middle East for the past 4 decades (with every US president in turn licking Zionist boots), you see the covert picture as well. Zionist Israel wants to obliterate Iran, and the US president is willing.

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    Quote “It would be difficult to find in the history books another example of a war fought for no reason whatsoever. As ignorant as President Donald Trump and his triumvirate or psychotics Bolton, Pompeo and Elliott Abrams are, even they surely know that Iran poses no threat to the United States,” he continued. The analyst wrote that the “influence of Israel over US foreign policy is undeniable, with Washington now declaring that it will ‘review ties’ with other nations that are considered to be unfriendly to” Israel.

    In an interview with Press TV on Thursday, Scott Bennett, a former US military psychological warfare officer and political commentator, said America’s CIA and Israel’s Mossad are conflating and distorting intelligence to push the United States into a military conflict with Iran.

    On Wednesday, American Muslim Representative Ilhan Omar accused the Trump administration of preparing the ground for direct confrontation with Iran using inflated intelligence data.

    She said that the US intelligence community was making up excuses to justify hostile anti-Iran policies just as it did before the invasion of Iraq in 2003.


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    (further into the article, and the "take away" message)

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    Quote On Sunday, US National Security Adviser John Bolton announced the deployment of an American carrier strike group to the Middle East, citing a "credible threat" from Iran.

    The US Air Force acknowledged Friday that B-52 bombers ordered by the White House to deploy to the Persian Gulf to counter unspecified threats from Iran have arrived at a major American air base in Qatar.

    Images released by the US Air Force’s Central Command show B-52H Stratofortress bombers arriving at Al Udeid Air Base in Qatar on Thursday night.

    Trump was asked about the deployment decision on Thursday. He said Iran had been "very threatening."

    "We have information that you don’t want to know about. They were very threatening, and we just want to have — we have to have great security for this country," Trump said.
    In context:
    "Apparently stung by the Iranian president’s barb that his White House was “mentally retarded,” an angry President Trump on Tuesday again threatened the country with “obliteration.”

    Iran’s very ignorant and insulting statement, put out today, only shows that they do not understand reality. Any attack by Iran on anything American will be met with great and overwhelming force. In some areas, overwhelming will mean obliteration. No more John Kerry & Obama!” the commander-in-chief wrote, referring to two of the architects of the Iranian nuke deal that he pulled the US out of."
    [my opinion]The Zionist Israelis have the mentally retarded Zionist and militarist and deep-state-compliant US commander-in-chief that they needed. This isn't posturing, the Zionist Israelis are going for broke on having the US military destroy their enemy, Iran. Probably half or more of the population of the US doesn't care, at all, other than rising taxes, who the USA targets for destruction. I have witnessed 50 years of dehumanizing of entire nations of people by the deep state controlled corporate mainstream media in the US, justifying anything and everything the USA Inc.* does to its victim nations around the world.

    *(The "USA, Inc." is the mobster-run, oligarch-controlled US government, not the parasitised nation of the same name that has been taken over.)[/my opinion]
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    Default Re: US and Israel fabricating lies to provoke war with Iran: Ex-CIA officer

    @Dennis, I think that you are pretty much correct with possibly one exception. President Trump may or may not be a mentally retarded Zionist. He might be under the control of the Zionists by extortion. He may actually understand what is really going on, but have something very big and ugly to hide from the American public. Either way, a war with Iran could start.

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    Default Re: US and Israel fabricating lies to provoke war with Iran: Ex-CIA officer

    Spot-on I would say Dennis. What a joke, Trump saying "we need great security for this country" while deploying B52s thousands of miles away from the U.S.A. WTF!

    Trump's Zionist masters are not having an easy go of it though. The public at home no longer have a stomach for an expensive war, Congress has stepped in to put a halt to Trump attacking Iran without their permission and Bolton/Pompeo are struggling to sign-up U.S. allies largely because their tanker attack looked so bloody phony. Idiots!

    The Iranians have taken a page out of Putin's guide book and won't take Bolton/Pompeo's bait very easily. (Remember the Russian jet that was downed). Of course, there's no doubt the Israelis are calling the shots here as Giraldi asserts and are working with Bolton/Pompei to fabricate one provocation after the next but if the Iranians can keep their cool, we may be lucky enough to get an outcome like in Venezuela recently which was yet another Bolton/Pompeo cock-up. Those neocon puppets really are losing what few brain cells they have left. Maybe their implants really are frying their brains.
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    Default Re: US and Israel fabricating lies to provoke war with Iran: Ex-CIA officer

    Don’t forget Trump’s son-in-law is Jared Kushner, with dual nationality with Israel, and in a very high governmental position, along with his wife....
    Trump is therefore compromised.
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    Default Re: US and Israel fabricating lies to provoke war with Iran: Ex-CIA officer

    There certainly is a credible threat from Iran. Were the U. S. to "try" them, all thirty-five or so bases in the Middle East would get vaporized. Iran has no power projection around the world; the U. S. does, but, it won't do them much good any more. Just a bunch of easy targets.

    As to what Iran may do to dismantle the Zionist occupation, I personally don't care. It's nothing I would approve investing a tax penny to prevent. Unfortunately our Zionist-occupied government is beyond my control (or even remote influence).

    It sounds a bit like the "Japan" model: put in a fuel blockade, an act of war, then act hurt when they retaliate.

    I doubt they can conjure up a "war"--not a Congressionally-declared one--but the Executive branch has too many options, it is too powerful and dangerous, can easily cause violence and other problems.

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    Default Re: US and Israel fabricating lies to provoke war with Iran: Ex-CIA officer

    Thanks Dennis,

    And to underline the point you have made, this is an excellent video about John Bolton. Also very interesting bit about Sheldon Adelson and his contributions to Trump. Direct link between those contributions and the hiring of Bolton as national security advisor. Chilling.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hs35O_TBbbU

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