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    Default Re: ‘Undeniable’ proof' the Moon Landings were faked?

    Quote Posted by ichingcarpenter (here)
    Dear Bill Ryan............ Please post the moon photos that you said are fake........ thanks
    Really? There are many, easily found: shadows non-aligned, examples of double lighting and/or fill-in lighting, images where the cross-hairs of the Hassleblad camera are behind the image, not in front of it, and more where film of scenes from different Apollo missions has the same background and/or horizon.

    See this excellent 2014 thread, with 270 posts. Just search for my own posts there. (Search thread > Advanced Search, and you can search in the thread.) But many others posted fascinating and detailed material, too.

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    Default Re: ‘Undeniable’ proof' the Moon Landings were faked?

    Quote Posted by ichingcarpenter (here)
    Dear Bill Ryan............ Please post the moon photos that you said are fake........ thanks
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Really? There are many, easily found: shadows non-aligned, examples of double lighting and/or fill-in lighting, images where the cross-hairs of the Hassleblad camera are behind the image, not in front of it, and more where film of scenes from different Apollo missions has the same background and/or horizon.
    Here’s one example of cross-hairs.


    A lot of sites come up when you type into your search engine:

    Dave McGowan Wagging The Moondoggie+pdf. - You'll see many photos and explanations of them.

    Lots of vids to choose from here: Wagging the Moondoggie.

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    Default Re: ‘Undeniable’ proof' the Moon Landings were faked?

    Yep. Here's just one example of a photo that certainly looks to have been faked.


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    Too much cool-aid or delusional or completely ignorant man do believe in the Apollo Moon landing.
    International Space Station is not in space. It's circling around low Earth orbit few hundred kilometers above the surface.
    Space Shuttle? It was a low Earth orbit craft.
    NASA destroyed all the technical data that proves the Apollo Moon landing was real historic event.
    There were real fake videos and photos taken on secret indoor/outdoor studios under NASA's operation though.
    NASA will not be able to send manned probe to Moon by the end of 2024. It will proves the Apollo Moon landing was complete fake ironically. Time will tell.

    Even if NASA or a nation has faster than light propulsion tomorrow, sending human to other planet is impossible until we have technical advancement to simulate other planet's environment on Earth.
    Each planet has unique electromagnetic environment. All life forms on Earth are like fishes in the localized electromagnetic ocean. We live at the bottom of electromagnetic ocean.
    When people goes to high altitude mountains, due to the low density of air some develops illness that might trigger death.

    Average distance from Moon and Earth is 384,402 km. Did NASA figure out all physiological change of human body caused by different electromagnetic environment of space and Moon?
    No, they couldn't. EM effect on life recognized by EU folks lately. There has been pioneers but their works completely ignored by mainstream science.
    This itself insults average intelligence. Also to send and bring back astronauts NASA required at least three Saturn V rockets, which were impossible for them to build and maintain.

    To withstand in hard vaccum in space, the suit has hard shell.




    The fake space suit by NASA


    A fake Moon's surface photo by NASA
    (The film camera was supposedly operating at minus 100 or plus 100 Celsius degrees without thermal protection device.)
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    Default Re: ‘Undeniable’ proof' the Moon Landings were faked?

    Just re-showing this vid from past posts.
    It says it all, give the conversation a listen to.
    Dave McGowan blows the Apollo lies to shreds with simple logic
    I'm a simple easy going guy that is very upset/sad with the worlds hidden controllers!
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    Clear evidence that the Apollo astronauts placed these retroreflectors on the moon:

    Quote Lunar Laser Ranging experiment

    The ongoing Lunar Laser Ranging experiment or Apollo landing mirror measures the distance between surfaces of Earth and the Moon using laser ranging. Lasers at observatories on Earth are aimed at retroreflectors planted on the Moon during the Apollo program (11, 14, and 15), and the two Lunokhod missions.[1] Laser light pulses are transmitted and reflected back to Earth, and the round-trip duration is measured. The lunar distance is calculated from this value.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_...ing_experiment

    Quote Posted by DaveToo (here)
    And second question for now. How did they navigate through the Van Allen belts?
    All these claims that the astronauts could not have passed through the Van Allen radiation belts is just a conspiracy theory without any solid evidence -- in other words, these claims are based on pure hearsay. If you think that it was impossible to navigate through the Van Allen belts, then you have to substantiate your allegation and not the other way around.

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    Default Re: ‘Undeniable’ proof' the Moon Landings were faked?

    Scientists discovered Moon's surface reflects laser beams in early 1960s already.

    https://the60sat50.blogspot.com/2012...-luna-see.html
    Quote Wednesday, May 9, 1962: Project Luna See
    Louis Smullin and Giorgio Fiocco of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology aimed a ruby laser beam toward the moon's surface and Albategnius became the first lunar feature to reflect laser light from Earth. (From the book "Moonwalk with Your Eyes" by Tammy Plotner, 2010.)

    From a New York Times article dated May 10:

    Last night, for the first time, man illuminated another celestial body.
    Had someone been standing in the mountainous region southeast of the crater Albategnius on the moon, the stark and darkened lunar landscape about him would have been lighted by a succession of dim red flashes.
    The effect is thought to have been limited to a circular area of the moon's surface only one mile in radius. The light beam was produced by engineers from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, using a device known as a laser or optical maser.
    It produces a beam of extreme intensity and narrowness. The reflected light could be detected on earth only by electronic means. However, according to Dr. Charles H. Townes, inventor of the maser of now provost of M.I.T., the illumination on the moon's surface was comparable to that produced on the walls of a large room by a flashlight bulb. ...
    He and many others believe such devices will play a key role in communications with and between space vehicles. ... Ultimately, Dr. Townes believes, the laser principle may provide an efficient means for transmitting energy long distances. It could be used to provide power to expeditions on the moon or other planets, using sources on the earth. It is also being tested as surgical knife and may be useful for delicate welding jobs.
    The link contains the original experment.
    https://dspace.mit.edu/bitstream/han...pdf?sequence=1
    Quote D. PROJECT LUNA SEE

    In order to determine some of the possibilities of optical maser radar we conducted experiments with the Moon as a target.
    These experiments were made at Lexington, Massachusetts, on the evenings of May 9, 10, and 11, 1962
    https://books.google.co.kr/books?id=...omy%22&f=false
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    NASA claimed that one Saturn V rocket was used to send lunar lander to Moon.
    To escape Earth, the rocket used the bottom two rockets. The third stage rocket was used to set the orbit to Moon carefully.

    The Apollo astronauts had to navigate facing Earth on the way to the Moon with the third stage rocket.

    But the problem is the third stage did not have enough thrust to slow down lunar lander's speed which was traveling over speed of Mach 55 (19,000 m/s divided by 340 m/s) . The orbital speed of Earth in space is around 30 km/s. So the lunar lander's speed right after escaping Earth would be between 41 km/s and 19 km/s. Moon is traveling at 31 km/s or 29 km/s in space.

    So NASA had to set the lunar lander's orbit for being slow down by Earth and Moon's gravity pull with incredible precision. Every 1/1000th second the lunar lander was moving 19 m in space. However it's a speculation because NASA destroyed all telemetry data of the lunar landers during Apollo Project.





    How they came back safely without another Saturn V rocket to Earth?
    It's absurd.
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    Quote In the main part of the show Andrew Johnson talks about his research into the secret space programme. Is it true that exotic propulsion technologies have been successfully developed and deployed, and hidden from public view? Is it true that silent spacecraft, which would make rockets look like a horse and cart, are being flown from Earth in a secret space fleet? When you consider all of the evidence in Andrew Johnson’s book the answer is affirmative.
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    NASA says it also ‘destroyed the technology which got us to the moon and it would cost to much money and time to recreate it now.’ Right?

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    NASA says it also ‘destroyed the technology which got us to the moon and it would cost to much money and time to recreate it now.’ Right?
    That's true. But with NASA there is Never A Straight Answer. Ever.

    Many surmise that NASA developed a 'Moon set' and filmed Moon activities as a back up in case of failure, views of artifacts they don't want others to see on the Moon or destruction of the films. Perhaps too close a look at the lost films and telemetry data with better technology would reveal too much.

    Now NASA says they can't return to the moon without the lost data even though they seem to have made it to Mars and other planets without the moon telemetry data. Unless those are hoaxes of course. In a recent video one spokesman said that they can't go to the Moon unless they can develop a dependable rocket.

    Right back to Never a Straight Answer.

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    Quote Posted by xylo (here)
    NASA says it also ‘destroyed the technology which got us to the moon and it would cost to much money and time to recreate it now.’ Right?
    The statement it 'destroyed the technology which got us to the moon' is misleading, see the quote below. By the way, if you read between the lines you will find a demand for more money.

    Quote We have neither destroyed the technology to return to the Moon, nor lost it. What’s happened is much less sinister: our technological base has moved ahead, and most of what was built for the Apollo program is completely obsolete. We can’t duplicate the Saturn V or the Apollo spacecraft any more than we can precisely duplicate a World War II era Stirling bomber. (I pick that solely because my father flew in Stirlings.) We’d have to recreate the industrial base of the 1960s to pull it off.
    https://www.quora.com/Do-you-believe...rn-to-the-moon

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    Default Re: ‘Undeniable’ proof' the Moon Landings were faked?

    Quote Posted by DaveToo (here)
    Quote Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
    I believe the answer is correct that we went to the moon but the footage was massaged and fake....
    I consider myself a 9/11 expert. A 9/11 conspiracy authority. This is because I have spent literally years researching the subject, full-time.
    Considering one an authority/expert does not necessarily make one an authority/expert . . .

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    Default Re: ‘Undeniable’ proof' the Moon Landings were faked?

    Quote Posted by Sunny-side-up (here)
    Some more content for the ongoing ddebate: did we land on the moon?
    Haven't seen this content before.

    Quote Most shockingly, Sibrel claims to have documents from a former security guard who says he watched while NASA and the CIA filmed the faked moon landing of 1969 at a military base.
    Quote A FILMMAKER who was punched in the face by astronaut Buzz Aldrin for saying he lied about walking on the moon - says he has undeniable proof that the lunar landings were fake.

    Bart Sibrel, who has been assaulted and bombarded with death threats over his research into the Apollo missions, shared photos and video footage with Sun Online which, unbelievably, he claims prove man has never walked on the moon.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/953014...andings-faked/
    Not correct. Bart Sibrel was punched in the face for calling Buzz Aldrin "a coward, and a liar, and a thief." Sibrel claims to have sent Aldrin a letter of apology.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astron...ith_astronauts


    Bart Sibrel is as credible as any of these leading Flat Earth advocates. His personal behavior is just childish:

    Quote In Astronauts Gone Wild, Sibrel confronts nine Apollo astronauts and asks them to swear an oath on a Bible that they traveled to the Moon and back.
    [...]
    Later, Mitchell had the following to say about his encounter: "Sibrel faked his way into my home with false History Channel credentials for an interview. After about 3–4 minutes, he popped the bible question. Realizing who he was, I maintained my cool enough to swear on his bible, then ended the interview and tossed him out of the house, with a boot in his rear."[8]
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    Default Re: ‘Undeniable’ proof' the Moon Landings were faked?

    its a shame , Sibrel was close to possibly getting somewhere with Dr Mitchell , but he let his agenda get in the way. If he could of found a way to get Mitchel to just stay with him on his inquiry, the point he was trying to make had legs. But he blew it and the whole thing went bad.

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    Default Re: ‘Undeniable’ proof' the Moon Landings were faked?

    Also, the line between the close up area and the distance and mountainous area is unmistakable. Look closely at the picture Bill posted. Jay Weidner explains this as front screen projection. He tells, in great detail, how this is accomplished. Once you are able to see the line, it cannot be unseen. You can see it in all the faked pictures and videos.
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