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    Hi Bill,

    when I have some health issues, I usually treat it with several things, at once, so I can not point to what exactly helped most. Last year, after kneeling on the roof while installing solar panels, my knee swell up and MRI showed quite a bad tear of the cartilage. To see a specialist I had to wait for a couple of weeks, and knowing that the surgery would be his only answer, I started treating my knee with poultices which I made from beef jelly (usually found in the shop where the cake icinga are stored; 1 small spoon in 1dl of water and adding a bit of DMSO to facilitate absorption; applied on the knee, put a gauze over it and a bandage) and Epsom salt gel (magnesium sulfate), which I rubbed in, separately. I was also taking some of the jelly by mouth each morning (beef jelly contains all necessary ingredients for the cartilage repair.) Beside that, I used Borax, Zink and some other vitamins and minerals as a supportive therapy.

    Short and good, I fixed the knee before I got the appointment with the specialist. Chronic conditions may need a bit more time but the principle would be the same. Actually, I was quite surprised by the Epsom salt gel, (Epsom salt baths are another option, but the gel is more practical) as it was working miraculously in my case, reducing the pain in the joint and muscles, eliminating cramps and even the low back pain!?

    The problem is that there are no two people with exactly the same condition, the same mineral or nutrient status of the body... etc., so the same staff may not work for everybody in the same manner.

    Mod note from Bill: copied from The Borax Conspiracy thread, where this was first posted. It also very much belongs here.



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    A new article from Dr Mercola.
    Top anti-inflammatory foods and supplements

    Story at-a-glance
    • Chronic inflammation is a hallmark of virtually all disease, including cancer, obesity and heart disease. Your diet plays a significant if not primary role as it can either trigger or prevent inflammation
    • Leafy greens, berries and mushrooms are potent anti-inflammatory foods. People with autoimmune diseases may want to limit vegetables high in lectins, though, as they may cause more problems than they solve
    • Traditionally fermented and cultured foods are anti-inflammatory staples that work their “magic” by optimizing your gut flora. Examples include kefir, yogurt, natto, kimchee, miso, tempeh, pickles, sauerkraut, olives and other fermented vegetables
    • Marine-based omega-3 fats found in fatty cold-water fish that are low in environmental toxins are important anti-inflammatories that are particularly crucial for brain and heart health
    • Other anti-inflammatory foods and supplements include green tea, spices such as cloves, ginger, rosemary and turmeric, herbal remedies such as white willow bark, maritime pine bark and Cat’s claw, and supplements such as resveratrol, curcumin, capsaicin, vitamin D, zinc and SAM-e
    Chronic inflammation is a hallmark of virtually all disease, including cancer, obesity and heart disease. While inflammation is a perfectly normal and beneficial process that occurs when your body's white blood cells and chemicals protect you from foreign invaders like bacteria and viruses, it leads to trouble when the inflammatory response gets out of hand and continues indefinitely.

    Your diet plays a significant if not primary role in this chain of events and is the perfect place to start to address it. Certain nutritional supplements can also be helpful as add-ons.

    Below, I’ll review some of the foods, spices and supplements known for their anti-inflammatory power (and the foods known for their inflammatory effects). If you struggle with any chronic health condition, chances are you have inflammation in your body, and would be wise to take a cold hard look at what you’re putting into it.

    Anti-inflammatory food basics

    A key part of an anti-inflammatory diet involves excluding refined vegetable oils, as they are clearly one of the most pernicious and pervasive poisons in the food supply. Simply avoiding all processed foods and most restaurant foods will go a long way toward helping you avoid them.

    As for anti-inflammatory foods to eat more of, vegetables are a key staple. Dark leafy greens such as kale, collard greens and Swiss chard contain powerful antioxidants, flavonoids, carotenoids and vitamin C that can help protect against cellular damage. Ideally, opt for organic locally grown veggies that are in season, and consider eating a fair amount of them raw.

    Juicing is an excellent way to get more greens into your diet. There’s a caveat, though. If you struggle with autoimmune disease or have significant inflammation in your body, consider limiting vegetables with high lectin content, as the lectins may pose a problem.

    Among the most problematic lectin-containing foods are beans, grains, legumes and members of the nightshade family like eggplants, potatoes and peppers. High-lectin foods can be made safer to eat through proper soaking and cooking, as well as fermenting and sprouting. Using a pressure cooker is particularly beneficial for beans. You can learn more about this in my interview with Dr. Steven Gundry, author of “The Plant Paradox.”

    Oxalates are another plant component that can cause problems, as they not only will increase inflammation but will worsen your mitochondrial function. Those prone to oxalate kidney stones typically need to be on an oxalate-free diet as well. Foods high in oxalates include potatoes (white and sweet), almonds, seeds, dark chocolate, beets, beans and many others.

    On the other hand, raw berries — especially blueberries — are an anti-inflammatory basic, as most tend to be low in fructose while rating high in antioxidant capacity compared to other fruits and vegetables.

    The same goes for mushrooms, which are commonly overlooked. Shiitake mushrooms, for example, contain ergothioniene, which inhibits oxidative stress. Mushrooms also contain a number of unique nutrients that you may not get enough of in your diet.

    One of those nutrients is copper, which is one of the few metallic elements accompanied by amino and fatty acids that are essential to human health. Since your body can't synthesize copper, your diet must supply it regularly. Copper deficiency can be a factor in the development of coronary heart disease.

    Another excellent anti-inflammatory mushroom is the Reishi, which contains ganoderic acid, a terpene that induces apoptosis (programmed cell death of damaged cells) and enhances the immune system.

    Fermented and cultured foods

    Traditionally fermented and cultured foods are other anti-inflammatory staples that work their “magic” by optimizing your gut flora. A majority of inflammatory diseases start in your gut as the result of an imbalanced microbiome.

    Fermented foods such as kefir, natto, kimchee, miso, tempeh, pickles, sauerkraut, olives and other fermented vegetables will help reseed your gut with beneficial bacteria. Ideally, you’ll want to eat a wide variety of them as each contains a different set of beneficial bacteria (probiotics).

    Fermented foods can also help your body rid itself of harmful toxins. Kimchi, for example, has been shown to break down pesticides that promote inflammation. As reported in a study in the Journal of Agricultural Food Chemistry, the organophosphate insecticide chlorpyrifos degraded rapidly during kimchi fermentation and was 83.3% degraded by Day 3. By Day 9, it was degraded completely.

    If you don’t like fermented vegetables, consider yogurt made from raw organic milk from grass fed cows. Yogurt has been shown to reduce inflammation by improving the integrity of your intestinal lining, thereby preventing toxins in your gut from crossing into your bloodstream.

    Other potent anti-inflammatory foods

    Marine-based omega-3 fats found in fatty cold-water fish that are low in environmental toxins — such as wild Alaskan salmon, sardines and anchovies — are also important anti-inflammatories and are particularly important for brain and heart health. In fact, your omega-3 level is a powerful predictor of mortality.

    If you don’t enjoy these types of fish, you could consider using krill oil instead. Research published in the Scandinavian Journal of Gastroenterology in 2012 confirmed that dietary supplementation with krill oil effectively reduced inflammation and oxidative stress.

    As with vitamin D, it’s advisable to check your omega-3 index on a regular basis to ensure optimization. Ideally, you’ll want to maintain an omega-3 index of 8%. (GrassrootsHealth offers a convenient, cost-effective test to measure both your vitamin D and omega-3 levels.)

    Many teas also offer anti-inflammatory benefits that can be enjoyed by most. Matcha tea is the most nutrient-rich green tea and comes in the form of a stone-ground unfermented powder. The best Matcha comes from Japan.

    It’s an excellent source of antioxidants, especially epigallocatechin gallate (EGCG), a catechin with anti-inflammatory activity. Tulsi is another tea loaded with anti-inflammatory antioxidants and other micronutrients that help protect against damage caused by chemical pollutants, heavy metals and physical stress.

    Anti-inflammatory herbs and spices

    Ounce for ounce, herbs and spices are among the most potent anti-inflammatory ingredients available and making sure you’re eating a wide variety of them on a regular basis can go a long way toward preventing chronic illness.

    According to a novel study in the Journal of the American College of Nutrition, published in 2012, “cloves, ginger, rosemary and turmeric were able to significantly reduce oxidized LDL-induced expression of TNF-α” or tumor necrosis factor, a cytokine involved in systemic inflammation.

    Ginger lowered three different inflammatory biomarkers, suggesting its superior anti-inflammatory action, but rosemary and turmeric also “showed protective capacity by both oxidative protection and inflammation measures.”

    The interesting thing about this study is that they used “real world” dosages, meaning amounts you would normally use in your daily cooking, not megadoses you might find in a concentrated supplement. For example, those in the oregano group ate just half a teaspoon of oregano daily for seven days.

    Garlic is another kitchen staple that has been treasured for its medicinal properties for centuries. Garlic exerts its benefits on multiple levels, offering antibacterial, antiviral, antifungal and antioxidant properties. Most recently, a 2019 review and meta-analysis concluded garlic effectively lowered several inflammatory biomarkers, including C-reactive protein, TNF-α and interleukin-6.

    It's thought that much of garlic's therapeutic effect comes from its sulfur-containing compounds, such as allicin. Research has revealed that as allicin digests in your body it produces sulfenic acid, a compound that reacts faster with dangerous free radicals than any other known compound.

    An earlier study published in the Journal of Medicinal Foods found a direct correlation between the antioxidant phenol content of spice and herb extracts and their ability to inhibit glycation and block the formation of AGE compounds (advanced glycation end products), making them potent preventers of heart disease and premature aging.

    Here, cloves were ranked as the most potent of 24 common herbs and spices found in your spice rack. The following were found to be the top 10 most potent anti-inflammatory herbs and spices:
    • Cloves
    • Cinnamon
    • Jamaican allspice
    • Apple pie spice mixture
    • Oregano
    • Pumpkin pie spice mixture
    • Marjoram
    • Sage
    • Thyme
    • Gourmet Italian spice
    Curcumin — A powerful anti-inflammatory with poor absorption

    Curcumin, the active ingredient in turmeric, also has a solid foundation in science with numerous studies vouching for its anti-inflammatory effects. As noted in a 2017 review in the journal Foods:
    “[Curcumin] aids in the management of oxidative and inflammatory conditions, metabolic syndrome, arthritis, anxiety, and hyperlipidemia. It may also help in the management of exercise-induced inflammation and muscle soreness, thus enhancing recovery and performance in active people.
    In addition, a relatively low dose of the complex can provide health benefits for people that do not have diagnosed health conditions. Most of these benefits can be attributed to its antioxidant and anti-inflammatory effects.”
    A drawback of turmeric is its poor absorbability and rapid elimination. As noted in this Foods review, taken by itself turmeric typically does not impart the health benefits with which this spice is associated.

    Certain components or additives can significantly boost its bioavailability though. One is piperine, the active ingredient in black pepper, which has been shown to increase the bioavailiability of curcumin by 2,000%. This is why you’ll typically find piperine as an ingredient in most curcumin supplements. A typical dosage of a standardized curcumin supplement is 400 to 600 milligrams three times a day.

    Anti-inflammatory ingredients can provide natural pain relief

    Another interesting paper in the journal Surgical Neurology International, “Natural Anti-Inflammatory Agents for Pain Relief,” highlights several foods and spices already mentioned, specifically omega-3, green tea and turmeric. In addition to those, it also discusses the anti-inflammatory potential of:
    • White willow bark
    • Maritime pine bark (pycnogenol)
    • Resveratrol
    • Cat’s claw (Uncaria tomentosa)
    • Chili pepper (capsaicin)
    Interestingly, a 2013 animal study found capsaicin “produced anti-inflammatory effects that were comparable to diclofenac,” a nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drug commonly prescribed to patients with mild to moderate arthritis.

    Frankincense

    The Surgical Neurology International paper also addresses the use of Frankincense extract (Boswellia serrata resin), noting it “possesses anti-inflammatory, anti-arthritic, and analgesic properties” and is an inhibitor of leukotriene biosynthesis.

    As such, it’s valuable in the treatment of inflammatory diseases driven by leukotrienes, such as degenerative and inflammatory joint disorders. According to this paper, Frankincense:
    “… reduces the total white blood cell count in joint fluid, and it also inhibits leukocyte elastase, which is released in rheumatoid arthritis. In one recent study, a statistically significant improvement in arthritis of the knee was shown after 8 weeks of treatment with 333 mg B. serrata extract taken three times a day …
    A combination of Boswellia and curcumin showed superior efficacy and tolerability compared with nonsteroidal diclofenac for treating active osteoarthritis. Boswellia typically is given as an extract standardized to contain 30-40% boswellic acids (300-500 mg two or three times/day).”
    An earlier study published in Scientific Reports in 2015 confirmed Frankincense and myrrh are both capable of suppressing inflammation by inhibiting the expression of inflammatory cytokines.

    The importance of vitamin D

    Some anti-inflammatory supplements have already been mentioned, such as curcumin, Cat’s claw, Frankincense and capsaicin. Other supplements with well-documented anti-inflammatory effects include vitamin D, S-adenosylmethionine (SAM-e) and zinc. As reported by Science Daily, vitamin D inhibits inflammation by reducing inflammatory proteins:
    “… [R]esearchers examined the specific mechanisms by which vitamin D might act on immune and inflammatory pathways.24 They incubated human white blood cells with varying levels of vitamin D, then exposed them to lipopolysaccharide (LPS), a molecule associated with bacterial cell walls that is known to promote intense inflammatory responses.
    Cells incubated with no vitamin D and in solution containing 15 ng/ml of vitamin D produced high levels of cytokines IL-6 and TNF-alpha, major actors in the inflammatory response. Cells incubated in 30 ng/ml vitamin D and above showed significantly reduced response to the LPS. The highest levels of inflammatory inhibition occurred at 50 ng/ml.
    Through a complex series of experiments, the researchers identified a new location where the vitamin-D receptor appears to bind directly to DNA and activate a gene known as MKP-1. MKP-1 interferes with the inflammatory cascade triggered by LPS, which includes a molecule known as p38, and results in higher levels of IL-6 and TNF-alpha.
    ‘This newly identified DNA-binding site for the vitamin-D receptor, and the specific pathways inhibited by higher levels of vitamin D provide a plausible mechanism for many of the benefits that have been associated with vitamin D,’ said Dr. Goleva.
    'The fact that we showed a dose-dependent and varying response to levels commonly found in humans also adds weight to the argument for vitamin D's role in immune and inflammatory conditions.’"
    While I strongly recommend getting your vitamin D from sensible sun exposure, if you cannot maintain a protective level of 60 to 80 ng/ml year-round, a vitamin D3 supplement would be prudent, considering its importance for your overall health.

    Zinc and SAM-e

    Zinc is a commonly overlooked antioxidant, but research shows it’s a potent anti-inflammatory. According to a 2014 review article in the journal Frontiers in Nutrition:
    “Zinc supplementation trials in the elderly showed that the incidence of infections was decreased by approximately 66% in the zinc group. Zinc supplementation also decreased oxidative stress biomarkers and decreased inflammatory cytokines in the elderly.
    In our studies in the experimental model of zinc deficiency in humans, we showed that zinc deficiency per se increased the generation of IL-1β and its mRNA in human mononuclear cells following LPS stimulation.
    Zinc supplementation upregulated A20, a zinc transcription factor, which inhibited the activation of NF-κB, resulting in decreased generation of inflammatory cytokines.”
    Similarly, SAM-e is commonly recommended for patients with osteoarthritis, as it has both anti-inflammatory and analgesic (pain relieving) properties. According to Arthritis.org, “Results may be felt in just one week but could take more than a month.”

    Inflammatory foods to avoid

    Last but not least, it's important to realize that dietary components can either trigger or prevent inflammation from taking root in your body, so avoiding inflammatory foods is just as important, if not more so, as eating anti-inflammatory ones.

    As a group, processed foods of all kinds tend to be pro-inflammatory, thanks to ingredients like high fructose corn syrup, soy, processed vegetable oils (trans fats) and chemical additives. So, in addition to adding anti-inflammatory foods, herbs, spices and supplements (if needed) to your diet, you’ll also want to avoid the following as much as possible:
    • Refined sugar, processed fructose and grains — If your fasting insulin level is 3 or above, consider dramatically reducing or eliminating grains and sugars until you optimize your insulin level, as insulin resistance is a primary driver of chronic inflammation.

      As a general guideline, I recommend restricting your total fructose intake to 25 grams per day. If you’re insulin or leptin resistant (have high blood pressure, high cholesterol, heart disease or are overweight), consider cutting that down to 15 grams per day until your insulin/leptin resistance has normalized
    • Oxidized cholesterol — Cholesterol that has gone rancid, such as that from overcooked, scrambled eggs
    • Processed meats
    • Industrial vegetable and seed oils (a source of oxidized omega-6 fats) such as peanut, corn and soy oil
    • Foods cooked at high temperatures, especially if cooked with vegetable oil
    Replacing processed foods with whole, ideally organic foods will automatically address most of these factors, especially if you eat a large portion of your food raw. Equally important is making sure you’re regularly reseeding your gut with beneficial bacteria, as mentioned above.

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    Everytime my knee starts to feel sharp pain, I prep up an oxtail soup. Works brilliantly for about week or so before it acts up again. I think should somehow do this for a week and monitor progress.

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    Another article from Dr Mercola — copied just as presented. It did capture my interest.

    It's heavily and blatantly promoting his own formula (as you can tell!) but also contains interesting info about glucosamine and chondroitin, which I've been taking religiously.

    There's also information here about other supplement ingredients that might be of value or interest to anyone reading this thread. That's the only reason I've included it here.
    The most recent studies show Glucosamine and Chondroitin can’t do the trick alone

    I think you’ll agree, when you can move with comfort and flexibility, it’s much easier to fully appreciate all life has to offer.

    If you could move like you did in your younger years, without pain and stiffness, what would your life look like?

    Would you take more walks or exercise regularly? Dive deeper into your favorite sports and hobbies? Interact with your kids or grandchildren with newfound gusto?

    It’s estimated that 140 million adults in the U.S. suffer from some type of joint or connective tissue complaint that keeps them from fully enjoying what they love most. And as the population ages, that number will continue to climb sharply.

    I probably don’t need to tell you your options for relief are limited. You’ve likely discovered that for yourself.

    Traditional treatments typically address the symptoms and not the root cause. Any relief you get is usually temporary – simply because it doesn’t deal with what’s brewing beneath the aches and pains and stiffness.

    Plus, it’s been clinically proven that most traditional treatments offer limited effectiveness. Many have significant and even potentially severe side effects, too, including risks to your heart health, gut health, and dependency issues.

    There must be a better way to enjoy greater flexibility and comfort in your day-to-day activities. I’m excited to tell you there now is... more about that in just a minute...

    Confirmed by Science: Why Glucosamine and Chondroitin Alone Aren’t Enough

    For years, glucosamine and chondroitin have been the go-to support for joint care.

    Many adults still take one or the other, or both. It’s estimated that one in five Americans take glucosamine and one in 10 take chondroitin.

    But do they work? Some of the most recent research suggests that they don’t provide all the benefits users expect.

    Here’s a quick snapshot at what these studies reveal:
    • A large two-year National Institutes of Health (NIH) study, called the Glucosamine/chondroitin Arthritis Intervention Trial (GAIT) compared glucosamine and chondroitin, both alone and together, with a prescription drug or inactive placebo for mild knee pain.
      A 2016 study of 164 patients with symptomatic knee concerns found that combined treatment with chondroitin and glucosamine sulfate showed no superiority over placebo for joint pain or functional use.
    • A 2010 Meta-Analysis of 3,800 people with knee and hip issues found that treatment with glucosamine, chondroitin or the combination was no better than placebo.
    • A 2016 study of 164 patients with symptomatic knee concerns found that combined treatment with chondroitin and glucosamine sulfate showed no superiority over placebo for joint pain or functional use.
    • More than 20 studies looking at the effect of chondroitin on knee and hip pain have found no consistent evidence that it lessens pain.
    • Several studies have looked at whether glucosamine and chondroitin can benefit joint structure. Any improvements seen were too small to make a difference to the patients.
    • Much of the glucosamine on the market is derived from shellfish, specifically crab, lobster, and shrimp shells – a common allergen.
    • Chondroitin molecules are large, making it difficult for your body to digest. Some people experience gastrointestinal upset.
    • Glucosamine may affect how your body handles sugar, especially if you already have blood sugar issues or insulin resistance.
    Getting to the Heart of the Issue... What Happens to Your Joints and Connective Tissue As You Age


    A healthy joint needs sufficient cartilage

    So if glucosamine and chondroitin aren’t enough by themselves, what else do you need?

    To help answer that question, let’s take a closer look at your joints and connective tissue...

    Cartilage is a specialized form of living connective tissue that lines the bone in a healthy joint. It lends strength and flexibility to your body.

    Cartilage cells produce long chain molecules called glycosaminoglycans (GAGs). When combined with water, they provide cushioning to protect your bones during movement and exercise.

    Two of the most common GAGs are chondroitin sulfate and hyaluronic acid, both of which are naturally present in healthy connective tissue and cartilage. Hyaluronic acid helps cartilage maintain its flexibility, elasticity, and strength.

    As you age, your joints’ cartilage can lose water and become dry and less elastic. Production of joint fluid and GAGs may also decline. Bottom line, it becomes more difficult to replace the cartilage you lose.

    The good news is, cartilage can benefit from supplementation with the right nutrients – more than just glucosamine and chondroitin alone...

    Straight From the Barnyard, the Many Wonders of Eggshell Membrane for Your Joint Health Eggshell membrane is the glossy lining left behind in the shell when you crack open an egg. It’s the protective barrier between the egg white and the mineralized eggshell.

    Loaded with naturally occurring nutrients, eggshell membrane can be a godsend for your joints and surrounding tissues.

    Here are some of the components found in this precious material...
    • Collagen (Type 1) – A fibrous protein that supports cartilage and connective tissue strength and elasticity
    • Elastin – A protein that supports skin, cartilage, cardiovascular and spinal health, giving tissue its elastic tension and ability to resume its shape after stretching
    • Glycosaminoglycans (GAGs) – Includes glucosamine, chondroitin, and hyaluronic acid, all structural components of connective tissue, interstitial fluids, and skeletal structure
    • Transforming growth factor-b – A protein that plays a crucial role in cellular differentiation and immune function
    • Desmosine and isodesmosine – Two little-known amino acids responsible for elastin’s elastic or “rubbery” properties
    Eggshell membrane, with all these valuable components working together, help:
    • Support a healthy range of motion
    • Deliver nutrients to your cartilage and the soft tissue surrounding your joints
    • Support a healthy inflammatory response
    So how can you get this unique glossy material, you may be wondering?
    Introducing NEM®... Our Eco-Friendly Eggshell Membrane Matrix From the Midwestern Heartland

    Straight from real, freshly cracked eggs, Natural Eggshell Membrane, or NEM® brand eggshell membrane matrix offers the important building blocks collagen, elastin, GAGs and other proteins to support the stability and flexibility of your joints and to help maintain your joint cartilage.

    NEM® brand eggshell membrane is an eco-friendly product. And it has a fascinating story behind it...

    Watching truckload after truckload full of discarded shells departing from a local Midwestern egg-breaking facility, NEM ’s founder wondered how he could help save 600,000 tons of eggshells from being discarded into American landfills each year.

    Made by Mother Nature, this waste had to have a better purpose...

    That drove him to digging into the research and discovering eggshell membrane had been used for many years in Japan for countless health benefits, including joint health.

    Truly a eureka moment, NEM ’s founder launched his company’s mission to transform this wasted resource into a powerful, naturally sourced joint health supplement.

    That was a few years ago... Today, this forward-thinking company is preventing thousands of tons of eggshells from becoming environmental waste, and instead, they’re contributing to consumer wellness.

    And the process they use to manufacture NEM is no less environmentally friendly...

    Their FDA inspected, NSF-certified GMP facilities leave no detrimental ecological footprint. Using a gentle patented process, the eggshells and their attached membranes are separated from each other.

    The isolated membrane is then partially hydrolyzed and dry-blended to produce 100 percent pure NEM powder.

    Made completely in the U.S.A., every lot of NEM undergoes testing to verify it is low in toxic heavy metals and free from pathogenic bacteria.

    Plus, it’s certified Kosher and Halal and free of any genetically engineered material!

    3 Ways NEM® Eggshell Membrane May Benefit Your Joint and Cartilage Health

    Earlier I talked about a triple-action effect. Let me explain...

    NEM brand eggshell membrane contains three times the support for your joints, and provides it in as little as four to 11 days!

    A small, single daily dose of only 500 mg provides fast-acting joint support and helps support healthy joints three ways – against pain, stiffness and cartilage breakdown.

    Because NEM® naturally contains many of the same key nutrients found in healthy joint cartilage including glycosaminoglycans (chondroitin and hyaluronic acid), collagen, and peptides, it offers the potential for:
    • Joint comfort support
    • Reducing joint aches and pains
    • A reduction of exercise-induced joint pain and stiffness
    • Reduced joint stiffness in a quick four days
    • Joint flexibility support
    • Reducing cartilage breakdown from normal wear and tear by providing needed building blocks for healthy joint function
    • Fast and continued results for overall joint health
    Let’s take a closer look at what some of the studies say...

    What the Research Says About NEM® Eggshell Membrane You don’t have to just take my word for it. Clinical studies have been done on NEM® to show how these potential benefits can occur in real people!

    A 2017 double-blind, placebo-controlled study with a group of 60 healthy post-menopausal women showed that a daily dose of 500 mg of NEM® rapidly improved recovery from exercise-induced joint aches and pains by Day 8, immediate stiffness by Day 7, and recovery stiffness by Day 4.

    This is the first dietary ingredient that has been shown to reduce exercise-induced pain in truly healthy subjects!

    But that’s not all... Studies show NEM promotes a healthy, balanced inflammatory response, too.

    Inflammation is your body’s way of isolating injured tissue to allow self-healing to take place. However, if inflammation continues beyond the natural healing process, it can lead to joint tissue damage. A balanced inflammatory response is essential for supporting your joint and connective tissue health.

    Multiple studies show that NEM contains compounds that support a healthy normal inflammatory response. One study of 44 individuals with knee and hip concerns supplementing with 500 mg of NEM showed:
    • More than 59 percent of patients reported NEM as good or very good after 60 days of use
    • More 75 percent of patients had moderate or significant improvements after 60 days, according to physicians
    • No serious adverse effects were reported during the study
    In conclusion, this study showed NEM significantly reduced pain, both rapidly (10 days) and continuously (60 days), making it a safe and effective option.

    If my Joint Formula only contained this winning eggshell membrane matrix, I think you would agree it would be a “no-brainer” decision to try it. However, my team didn’t stop there. We added three more joint health-supporting ingredients!

    Feel Better Fast With Super-Antioxidant Astaxanthin

    Astaxanthin – the carotenoid pigment that gives flamingos and shrimp their rosy pink hue – is a fat-soluble antioxidant with a unique molecular structure. It is similar in structure to beta-carotene, but much more effective at scavenging destructive free radicals.

    In fact, studies show astaxanthin may be 10 times more effective than beta-carotene in its ability to protect against free radical attack, and 550 times more effective than vitamin E!

    This super antioxidant is now thought to be the most powerful antioxidant found in nature. And because it is soluble in lipids, it crosses protective barriers and embeds itself into and helps protect mitochondrial and cellular membranes.

    Free radicals can cause tissue and joint damage. Compared to a normal heathy joint, an inflamed joint contains significantly increased levels of harmful free radicals.

    Astaxanthin has been found to be especially helpful for preventing and slowing down free radical damage to joints. It is unique among carotenoids because it traps free radicals at both ends of the molecule.

    It’s also very effective at quenching a molecule called singlet oxygen, a harmful reactive oxygen species formed through normal biological processes.

    Singlet oxygen possesses a high amount of excess energy that must be released to keep it from damaging other cells. Astaxanthin absorbs this energy and dissipates it as heat, thereby returning the singlet oxygen to a grounded state.

    Astaxanthin works diligently to support a healthy inflammatory response, which can result in fewer aches and pains and greater comfort. Studies show it helps:
    • Support grip strength among tennis players
    • Support joint health and mobility after exercise
    • Support joint health and quicker recovery times for elite athletes after intense training and exercise
    A Gift From One of Earth’s Oldest Life Forms… A Fine Source of Astaxanthin for My Joint Formula
    Microalgae is one of earth’s oldest life forms. It has survived many, many years through the harshest of conditions.

    Its genes may actually hold a secret for our own survival…

    The first building block and source of life itself, algae provides one of the finest gifts for health: astaxanthin.

    As a survival mechanism, the microalgae Haematococcus pluvialis produces astaxanthin when its water supply dries up to protect itself from ultraviolet radiation and lack of nutrition.

    You can get astaxanthin two ways – from the microalgae that produces it, or the sea creatures that feed upon the algae, such as salmon, krill and shrimp.

    The astaxanthin used for my Joint Formula is supplied by one of the premier suppliers of high-quality astaxanthin extracted from the microalgae Haematococcus pluvialis.

    Most manufacturers use open ponds where the algae is exposed to the elements and can come into contact with agricultural runoff and other environmental toxins. Our manufacturer grows the microalgae in glass tubes so it’s protected from contamination plus it avoids the use of PVC and plasticizers.

    Using state-of-the-art Supercritical Carbon Dioxide (CO2) technology, a standardized high quality astaxanthin oleoresin is extracted from the Haematococcus pluvialis biomass:
    • Contains 95 percent total carotenoids
    • Tested for purity with less than 0.5 ppm heavy metals
    • Uses no genetically engineered substances
    Source matters when it comes to astaxanthin… Petrochemical-derived astaxanthin has begun to hit the market and, understandably, it costs less than astaxanthin from microalgae. Because of this, you can’t be too careful when shopping for astaxanthin.

    Highly Prized During the Peak of the Roman and Indian Civilizations,
    This Ayurvedic Herb Can Help Maintain Steady Blood Flow to Your Joints


    The Boswellia serrata tree contains a gummy resin that supports joint health
    Boswellia serrata – or Indian frankincense – is one of the most-valued Ayurvedic herbs, referred to in its renowned ancient texts for its many uses.

    Not to be confused with the frankincense – or boswellia carterii – which is used to make the essential oil, the resin made from the boswellia serrata extract was highly prized during the peak of the Roman and Indian civilizations.

    This gum resin is extracted from the medium-to-large-sized boswellia serrata tree that grows in the dry mountainous regions of India, Northern Africa and the Middle East.

    Indian frankincense contains four major pentacyclic triterpenic acids, or more commonly known as boswellic acids.

    Studies show these boswellic acids promote a healthy inflammatory response in your body, thus helping to control tissue damage from free radicals.

    Working on the cellular and molecular levels, Indian frankincense supports:
    • The health of your body's connective tissues
    • Healthy joint function
    • The normal flexibility of your body
    • A normal and comfortable range of motion
    • Healthy normal blood flow to your joints
    With regular use, Indian frankincense can help maintain steady blood flow to your joints and support your joint tissues’ ability to boost flexibility and strength.

    Last but Not Least… Clinically Proven, Proprietary Lower Molecular Weight Hyaluronic Acid for Your Joint Comfort
    Hyaluronic Acid (HA) is a polysaccharide found in nearly every cell in your body. It’s a key component of your cartilage and connective tissue and synovial fluid that’s secreted by the synovial membrane surrounding your joints.

    HA’s main function is to reduce friction in your joints to help them move smoothly. It does this by providing lubrication and nutrients and removing wastes.

    Synovial fluid, which contains hyaluronic acid, acts as a lubricant, nutrient carrier and shock absorber to protect your joints and bones during normal movement.

    Your cartilage is immersed in, and fed by the synovial fluid. Without HA, nutrients can’t move into these cells… and waste can’t be moved out.

    Your body produces hyaluronic acid, and you can get it from foods like grass fed meats and bone broth from these meats. Vitamin C- and magnesium-rich foods play critical roles in the synthesis of HA.

    However, as you grow older, your body’s ability to produce hyaluronic acid declines. If you’re not allergic to eggs or poultry, supplemental hyaluronic acid can help provide valuable support for cushioning your joints.

    The hyaluronic acid we’ve added to our Joint Formula is a patented medium-chain hyaluronic acid that has a lower molecular weight than traditional HA.

    Studies show this form of highly bioactive hyaluronic acid is more bioavailable to your connective tissue and works well with astaxanthin for joint health.

    This special low-density hyaluronic acid:
    • Supports the production of synovial fluids to lubricate your points
    • Supports your immune function
    • Supports a normal, balanced inflammatory response
    In clinical studies by the manufacturer, this unique blend dramatically reduced knee joint discomfort and was shown to have a cumulative beneficial effect with time on optimizing joint comfort.

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    I had to leave aviation due to being rear ended and weakening a neck disc... then surgery pinched another nerve... I was in pain and spasms for 3 years.. sleeping only 2-4 hours a night..
    This got me into researching online.. as I did not trust the medical system after this.

    Advertisement is Not Education.. and that is all most people are repeating.. rumors and advertisement.
    It is all BS.

    I have found numerous things that REALLY work.. most are natural.. vs most of the BS I seen written..
    The body is one chemical reaction after another.. so Why Things Work is the key..
    I read there are 12,000 body chemical reactions that have to work.. or you are dead.

    So.. I looked at the Inflammation post.. and your comment about "I have slightly creaky knees'... I have the answers...

    Guaranteed... answers.. not Advertisement BS.
    So I will post some of these... I have many links were the info came from..

    For your problem...

    #1.. Ozone Therapy.. also known as Prolotherapy... injections of sugar or ozone.. which works best.. Plus.. Stem Cells from Your Blood.. and Growth Hormones.. 4 treatments is normal..
    The Ozone Causes inflammation.. stimulating the healing process.. the Stem cells grow into anything.. there is no case of "No Cartilage.. bone on bone situation." That is a lie.. my MD says.. Most of the problem is Ligaments.. per my MD.

    You will be sore for 1-5 days.. then heal.. Do not take any Anti-inflammatory during this for about a month. Takes about 6 weeks to heal... This works for ligaments and cartridge. Have both done at the same time.

    In January.. I had so much left knee pain.. I thought I was going to have to have an operation.. I weight lifted for years.. lifting 500 lbs 10 years ago.. but that is another story.. and I have pics..
    Having had 4 injections of Ozone .. I feel like I could weight lift again.. now.
    ....

    Supplements...
    14% Gallium Nitrate.. 43% used on Million $$$ race horses knees.. Nothing tougher on a knee.. than a race horse.. order from GalliumNitrate.com.. it kills inflammation.. and helps ligaments absorb nutrition.. They do not give Race Horses things that don't work !

    I applied it to people's hands that have severe arthritis.. and their fingers are so deformed.. they can not open them...

    100% instantaneously.. had the pain disappear and they could open their finger.. Shocked me.

    The Medical System is not there to Cure you but to milk your insurance company.. they have to follow Protocol.. or they are fired... my Ozone MD told me.

    * * *

    Vitamins... don't work.. without Minerals.. which everyone is deficient in... as the soil is depleted...
    And NEITHER WORK WITHOUT SYSTEMIC ENZYMES.. Your liver and pancreas makes them in abundance until you reach age 27... then they drop like a rock.

    They are involved in 3,000 body chemical functions.. and recycle vitamins and minerals, reduce inflammation.. and thus pain.. speeds up healing.. 30-50% after an operation.. for example.. thins the blood naturally, etc...

    Weight Lifters use SE.. to repair damage.. and avoid soreness. I took them as a teenager weight lifting 50 years ago.. but did not know why they worked.

    Vitalzym is the best one I have used... Used in Europe as a pain killer.. Europe and Russian have used SE medically for some 30 years...Your medical system is corrupt ! $$$

    Some SE eat blood clots.. Most come from plants.. MDs don't know a damn thing about them..

    In 1910 they knew high doses of Pancreatic Enzymes cured cancer ! What does that say about our current Medical System.. Fraud ! That is what.

    At age 59.. I dead lifted 500 lbs.. and tore both bicep tendons.. After 3 years.. the Andrews Sports Institute did not have an answer.. I was down to 1 arm. Then a smart friend who worked in the Nuclear and Chemical Industry .. told me about Vitalzym.. so I took high doses and in 90 days healed both biceps 90%.. and that was 10 years ago.

    I burned my finger one morning on a hot stove eye.. as I was sleepy.. burned it black.. worst burn I ever had.. put it under water.. and looked at it.. There was zero pain.. no blister.. it peeled off in 10 days.. all because I was taking high doses of SE for a shoulder problem...

    One major reason we age is because of decrease in SE.. in our body.

    Take without food.. or they only work as digestive enzymes.

    Some SE help with proteins, some with fats.. some with carbohydrates.
    Vitalzym is a mixture.. available on Amazon.. take 6 small pills.. 3 times a day.. for rapid results..
    Monitor your blood pressure.. and avoid blood thinners.

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    inflammation ... continued...
    MSM-Sulfur is the 5th most important element in your body.. including oxygen and water... it is a mineral in every cell membrane.. allows water and oxygen to exchange to detox your cells.. can reduce pain 30-50% in 1-5 days.. 1-2 tsps in a shot of water .. 1-2x/day. Especially good for muscle pain.

    Boron.. is good for joint pain.. another mineral..

    Everyone is deficient in minerals.

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    Agree regarding Minerals
    Soil is depleted of these so not much available through vegetables.
    The Galium Nitrate does not seem available in UK I checked tthe American company you listed and cost of shipping etc rules it out for me.
    Thanks for your post and PM though.
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    Quote Posted by Perdido (here)
    Guaranteed... answers.. not Advertisement BS.
    So I will post some of these... I have many links were the info came from..
    Thanks! I'm doing well here, actually, but I'll definitely look into Gallium Nitrate (I love the racehorse evidence) and Vitalzym.

    Regarding Ozone therapy, I'm aware of its benefits and occasional miracles. No sources here in Ecuador! But with a little ozonator, one can make ozonated olive oil, which (would you believe!) is an invention by Nikola Tesla.

    When ozonated, olive oil turns into a thick paste, and I'm guessing it could then be rubbed into joints as an ointment. I'll experiment.


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    I noticed a pain in my thumb joint that felt arthritic. Started taking borax about 3 weeks ago and it's gone.

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    So I have the results of my MRI & The radiologist wrote in his report (Asked to see images but was refused not how it's done in the UK on the NHS!) that I have mild spondylotic degenerative changes with small osteophyte bar causing "mild" (does not feel mild @ ALL) narrowing of the neural foramina @ C6/7 with no remarkable stenosis of the spinal canal.
    Desiccation of all cervical disks with "mild" loss of height @ C6/7. (Degraded disk)
    In a nut shell degenerative disk disease @ age 41!

    Lots of pain in cervical & lumbar spine. I have gotten some light relief from MSM & Turmeric tablets (thanks Avalon).
    So I have decided to take up more exercise pain permitting.
    It does seems strange to me as I am now totally unable to look upwards or sit @ a computer for extended periods of time which seemed to start when I took a much deeper interest in the universe & other matters above our heads.

    I am feeling a little fed up...







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    Friend’s father has had crippling arthritis for years (morphine stage). Fish oil had no impact for him but Red Krill Oil tablets helped significantly after few months.

    Mum been on Fish oil for years. Started taking Red Krill Oil few weeks ago and can now bend her fingers fully.

    Trial and error to find what works for every individual Apologies if Red Krill Oil already mentioned as I haven’t read all of the thread.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by Perdido (here)
    Guaranteed... answers.. not Advertisement BS.
    So I will post some of these... I have many links were the info came from..
    Thanks! I'm doing well here, actually, but I'll definitely look into Gallium Nitrate (I love the racehorse evidence) and Vitalzym.
    A couple of questions. This is really interesting.
    1. The dose specified on galliumnitrate.com is for a 1200 lb horse. Presumably the dose for humans would be proportionally less by weight? (So a liter of the solution would last for a great deal longer?)
    2. Do you have any idea why this isn't specifically recommended for humans? Considering the apparent potential benefits, there seems to be VERY little about it on the net.

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    Bill please keep us in the loop also regarding the ozonated olive oil

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    Bill please keep us in the loop also regarding the ozonated olive oil
    Well, it's interesting stuff! It has the consistency (texture) of semi-transparent toothpaste (the oil gets thicker when it's ozonated), and it can be applied to the skin like an ointment or salve. It retains the ozone indefinitely, so it's a good way of administering it. It can also simply be eaten, too, as it's food-grade and 100% safe by definition.

    One can make it oneself with a little ozonator (easy to find and buy, and not too expensive) — or buy ozonated olive oil directly. That's also quite easy to search for and find.

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    Celery juice Bill. Renown for helping arthritis.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by Perdido (here)
    Guaranteed... answers.. not Advertisement BS.
    So I will post some of these... I have many links were the info came from..
    Thanks! I'm doing well here, actually, but I'll definitely look into Gallium Nitrate (I love the racehorse evidence) and Vitalzym.
    A couple of questions. This is really interesting.
    1. The dose specified on galliumnitrate.com is for a 1200 lb horse. Presumably the dose for humans would be proportionally less by weight? (So a liter of the solution would last for a great deal longer?)
    2. Do you have any idea why this isn't specifically recommended for humans? Considering the apparent potential benefits, there seems to be VERY little about it on the net.
    I read Gallium Nitrate was used in newborn baby's eye drops. Can not remember the reason.

    43% Gallium Nitrate is used for Race Horses... 14% is what he sells for humans. I find it does not work on areas with thick tissue.. like the hip. I have considered trying the 43% version to test it.

    I only use 1/2-1 cap full at a time normally. If say my knee is really acting up... I will apply it 2 times per day... maybe 3. Only takes a couple of days to improve. I sit under a fan to help it dry.. feels like some coating on it afterwards.

    One can drink it diluted.. as it also kills candida... Friend had candida and tried it.. he avoid a 2nd round of chemo, I think it was.. He has had Leukemia from Agent Orange, and said candida was his biggest problem.

    Horses are treated better than humans... They don't waste money on things that don't work. American MDs are just milking Insurance Companies.. they are not trying to cure you.

    Gallium is on the periodic table, next to Zinc.

    Some people have reported doing Ozone Therapy to their own joints.. as sugar is one way.. Dextrose (I believe it was) sugar is shot into the joint with a small needle.

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    A MD had me us ozonated olive oil for an skin infection.. ulcer. It did seem to help some.. but did not cure it.
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    Low Dose Naltrexone (LDN) 3.0-4.5mg/night stops the progression of Arthritis.. among other things..

    I can not say enough good things about Systemic Enzymes... taken in high enough doses.. and one can not get sore from exercise !
    I prefer Vitalzym... used in Europe as a pain killer.

    360 small bee wax coated pills.. take on an empty stomach... 3 per day instructions.
    I took 6 @ 3-4x/day and healed both torn biceps 10 years ago 90% in 90 days... Problem was from dead lifting 500 lbs.. and have pics to prove it.
    It lowers blood pressure... so avoid blood thinners.. and monitor your pressure...
    One does not need blood thinners... just take Systemic Enzymes.
    Involved in 3,000 body chemical functions as catalyst .. They reduce inflammation, and thus pain.. speeds healing.. say 30-50% after an operation..
    Most come from plants..
    Your liver and pancreas made them in abundance.. until you hit age 27.

    Some even eat blood clots.
    1st sign of blockage is higher blood pressure.. MD told me
    So ..Takes about 10 days to start seeing results.. which is blood pressure starts falling.

    EVERY ELDER PERSON IS DEFICIENT IN SYSTEMIC ENZYMES.
    Lack of healing.. soreness, inflammation all are Symptoms.
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    Stem Cells will regrow bone on bone knee cartilage... as it is a pad..
    Only a certain area is bone on bone... Ozone Therapy MD told me.

    Interesting post here..

    Joe Rogan - Mel Gibson on How Stem Cell Therapy Saved His Dad's Life

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUCJo1j0S9s

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    Quote Posted by Perdido (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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    Guaranteed... answers.. not Advertisement BS.
    So I will post some of these... I have many links were the info came from..
    Thanks! I'm doing well here, actually, but I'll definitely look into Gallium Nitrate (I love the racehorse evidence) and Vitalzym.
    A couple of questions. This is really interesting.
    1. The dose specified on galliumnitrate.com is for a 1200 lb horse. Presumably the dose for humans would be proportionally less by weight? (So a liter of the solution would last for a great deal longer?)
    2. Do you have any idea why this isn't specifically recommended for humans? Considering the apparent potential benefits, there seems to be VERY little about it on the net.
    I read Gallium Nitrate was used in newborn baby's eye drops. Can not remember the reason.

    43% Gallium Nitrate is used for Race Horses... 14% is what he sells for humans. I find it does not work on areas with thick tissue.. like the hip. I have considered trying the 43% version to test it.

    I only use 1/2-1 cap full at a time normally. If say my knee is really acting up... I will apply it 2 times per day... maybe 3. Only takes a couple of days to improve. I sit under a fan to help it dry.. feels like some coating on it afterwards.
    I wrote to George Eby, who sells it at http://galliumnitrate.com. I asked:
    I understand the dosage you specify is for a 1200 lb horse. If it was for (careful!) human use (for someone with knee problems), am I right in assuming the dose would be reduced, proportional to body weight?
    He replied:
    Pursuant to FDA regulations and guidelines, we cannot endorse use of our product for Human Consumption. This said, some customers purportedly make a similar adjustment and have used the product to great effect. We cannot endorse such an application.
    I'm assuming what he means by this is that a human dose (say for someone weighing 180 lbs) would therefore be 180/1200 (= 15%) of the horse dose, and would need to be carefully measured.

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    When I worked with a, mainly, equine veterinarian he said he used many medications on himself and that they were the same quality as for human use but priced less for vet use.

    Everyone I worked around used vet preparations, most often for topical use on cuts and scrapes, and I did too. It's when I started using DMSO. Still use it and buy it at local farm supply stores were it costs less than health food stores. Not to be used on dogs however!

    Why not give it a try
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    I have osteo arthritis.... and my joints often blow out with inflammation.
    I use boron...or borax and it is the only thing that accumulatively works
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